Orange Duce

[LandM]

Admin,
You have the patience - thanks for letting everyone play-on

[Brooklyn]

Tweeeet! Tweeeet! Tweeeet! (Pulls Murph aside and asks the coach to join their conversation.) Murph, don't use that word within this Forum. No excuses accepted. If the word is critical to what you're discussing, temper the word. And think twice before using it anyway. Otherwise, that word is not to be typed. Coach, make sure this is taken care of or there'll be a substantial unrelease-able penalty. Tweeeeeeeeeet! Play on!

Perhaps the Fearless Leader in the White Wash House should learn from that example.

[wahoomurf]

[edited]...take the hint...GO HOME...and take those 4 scary women with you.

Tweeeet! Tweeeet! Tweeeet! (Pulls Murph aside and asks the coach to join their conversation.) Murph, don't use that word within this Forum. No excuses accepted. If the word is critical to what you're discussing, temper the word. And think twice before using it anyway. Otherwise, that word is not to be typed. Coach, make sure this is taken care of or there'll be a substantial unrelease-able penalty. Tweeeeeeeeeet! Play on!

Wow. So it's OK, for the Fanlax hate squad to applaud the folks that use that term with impunity? Guess I should have tempered THAT word and used a more acceptable euphemism. Perhaps... [edited] ... Your blog; your rules. I prefer to deal in truths and damn the consequences.

Willie Shake's SONNET 121 was spot on: To wit...
"Tis better to be vile than vile esteemed
When not to be, receives reproach of being,
And the just pleasure lost, which is so deemed
Not by our feeling but by others' seeing."

Stating what's on my mind has gotten me kicked out of better places than this. YOU WIN!

[admin]

Wow. So it's OK, for the Fanlax hate squad to applaud the folks that use that term with impunity? Guess I should have tempered THAT word and used a more acceptable euphemism. ... [edited]...
Your blog; your rules. I prefer to deal in truths and damn the consequences.
...
Stating what's on my mind has gotten me kicked out of better places than this. YOU WIN!

This isn't about truths. There's no truth in posting words like this. It's like spitting in someone's face and saying, That's the truth! No one deserves to be treated with such disregard, such lack of care. As a rule, we want all to feel welcome within our forum. Murph, you included. But when someone's posts make others feel unwelcome, that's a problem. A problem we expressed earlier today and a problem you chose to ignore.

Tweeeet! 3 Minute (6 Day) Unsportsmanlike Penalty. You'll be released on Thursday, July 25 at 5 PM. Tweeeeeeeet!!! Play on!

[Bandito]

Your daily reminder that:

Trump only became a “racist” when he decided to run against the Democrat party.
Rappers & celebrities loved Trump!
The Dems need 90% of the black vote so every election season they smear their opponents as racists to manipulate blacks into voting for their failed policies.

Historic low unemployment under Trump admin for blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women. The left can’t win in the arena of ideas do they must scream racism and bigotry. Ironically, the left is everything they accuse the right of being. Morons

Oh yeah, and Trump is freeing a black rapper from Sweden. If he was a racist he wouldn’t do that. MDLaxfan76 thinks trump is a Racist as are all his followers. Lol. MD is a pathetic person and a racist himself.

Trump is at a 50% approval rating despite:

- 3 year fake witch hunt
- fake news media
- 90% negative press coverage
- RINOs standing against him
- politicians fighting The Wall

He's doing pretty good.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Your daily reminder that:

Trump only became a “racist” when he decided to run against the Democrat party.
Rappers & celebrities loved Trump!
The Dems need 90% of the black vote so every election season they smear their opponents as racists to manipulate blacks into voting for their failed policies.

Historic low unemployment under Trump admin for blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women. The left can’t win in the arena of ideas do they must scream racism and bigotry. Ironically, the left is everything they accuse the right of being. Morons

Oh yeah, and Trump is freeing a black rapper from Sweden. If he was a racist he wouldn’t do that. MDLaxfan76 thinks trump is a Racist as are all his followers. Lol. MD is a pathetic person and a racist himself

Racist think he is racist is good enough for me!

[Bandito]

Your daily reminder that:

Trump only became a “racist” when he decided to run against the Democrat party.
Rappers & celebrities loved Trump!
The Dems need 90% of the black vote so every election season they smear their opponents as racists to manipulate blacks into voting for their failed policies.

Historic low unemployment under Trump admin for blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women. The left can’t win in the arena of ideas do they must scream racism and bigotry. Ironically, the left is everything they accuse the right of being. Morons

Oh yeah, and Trump is freeing a black rapper from Sweden. If he was a racist he wouldn’t do that. MDLaxfan76 thinks trump is a Racist as are all his followers. Lol. MD is a pathetic person and a racist himself

Racist think he is racist is good enough for me!

The left can’t win in the arena of ideas so all they do is play the victim and race card. It’s pathetic. Useful idiots

[Typical Lax Dad]

Your daily reminder that:

Trump only became a “racist” when he decided to run against the Democrat party.
Rappers & celebrities loved Trump!
The Dems need 90% of the black vote so every election season they smear their opponents as racists to manipulate blacks into voting for their failed policies.

Historic low unemployment under Trump admin for blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women. The left can’t win in the arena of ideas do they must scream racism and bigotry. Ironically, the left is everything they accuse the right of being. Morons

Oh yeah, and Trump is freeing a black rapper from Sweden. If he was a racist he wouldn’t do that. MDLaxfan76 thinks trump is a Racist as are all his followers. Lol. MD is a pathetic person and a racist himself

Racist think he is racist is good enough for me!

The left can’t win in the arena of ideas so all they do is play the victim and race card. It’s pathetic. Useful idiots

Yep.

[MDlaxfan76]

Your daily reminder that:

Trump only became a “racist” when he decided to run against the Democrat party.
Rappers & celebrities loved Trump!
The Dems need 90% of the black vote so every election season they smear their opponents as racists to manipulate blacks into voting for their failed policies.

Historic low unemployment under Trump admin for blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women. The left can’t win in the arena of ideas do they must scream racism and bigotry. Ironically, the left is everything they accuse the right of being. Morons

Oh yeah, and Trump is freeing a black rapper from Sweden. If he was a racist he wouldn’t do that. MDLaxfan76 thinks trump is a Racist as are all his followers. Lol. MD is a pathetic person and a racist himself

Racist think he is racist is good enough for me!

The left can’t win in the arena of ideas so all they do is play the victim and race card. It’s pathetic. Useful idiots

Yep.

TLD, you are a more patient fellow than I am.
You are correct that the most virulent white supremacists celebrate Trump as believing what they believe. And he just grins and tweets another dog whistle for them to applaud. You're right that at least these 'experts' think he's with them.

I know, and am friends with, a whole bunch of 2016 Trump voters who don't think of themselves as bigoted and I certainly wouldn't put them in the same sort of cult-like white supremacy box as the full-on racists that we saw march in Charlottesville, shoot up churches, synagogues, mosques, etc. But (like most of us) they're pretty unaware of their own biases, and are quite offended when someone accuses them of racism.

Most of them are now struggling with Trump's quite apparent racist tendencies.

Seems to me that if you're not at least struggling, one is making the choice to make common cause with racism. You can no longer make excuses that you didn't know.

At least to me, that choice is quite stark. I thought it was stark before 2016, but apparently a lot of folks were willing to close their eyes to it, as well as to the misogyny, as they were really pulling the lever for not-HRC, not-Dem, and for the 'not politically correct'... 'business man'. But having done so, it's now really, really hard for folks who think that simply because they pulled the lever once for Trump, they will be forever tarred as racist. So, they want to keep denying the racism.

But I see a bunch of them no longer cheerleading, no longer pleased to 'stick-it-to-the Dems' as a rationale. They still squawk about how awful the 'left' will be, but they are willing to at least admit their discomfort on this. That's positive.

But not at least struggling?

I did get a bit of a chuckle at a comment that was made about Trump only becoming a racist when he decided to run against the Dems...well, yes, somewhere in the late 2000's Trump appears to have shifted a whole lot of his thinking to an anti-Obama stance, whether suddenly no longer being pro-choice or his embrace of birtherism, indeed becoming its most prominent spokesman. We didn't know he was going to become a Republican candidate, but perhaps he did?

But his racist belief system came way, way earlier, certainly plenty of evidence of such in his property management policies/redlining, and then quite prominently with the Central Park 5. Of course, he came by this racism 'honestly'...his family was all-in with such beliefs. Raised to believe certain folks were inherently inferior to Northern Europeans.

But celebrities? Yup, he palled around with all sorts celebrities, entertainment, super rich, politicians, whatever. The whole image of flashy rich, beautiful women, gold toilets, was appealing to him. Always down for a party, an opportunity to be seen, paparazzi and all. Also, good for the business of casinos, boxing, fast money, etc. The opposite of those Manhattan 'elites' who found him so gauche. He wanted their status ohh so badly, nothing he wouldn't do to elevate himself in his own perception.

So many reasons to dislike the guy.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Your daily reminder that:

Trump only became a “racist” when he decided to run against the Democrat party.
Rappers & celebrities loved Trump!
The Dems need 90% of the black vote so every election season they smear their opponents as racists to manipulate blacks into voting for their failed policies.

Historic low unemployment under Trump admin for blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women. The left can’t win in the arena of ideas do they must scream racism and bigotry. Ironically, the left is everything they accuse the right of being. Morons

Oh yeah, and Trump is freeing a black rapper from Sweden. If he was a racist he wouldn’t do that. MDLaxfan76 thinks trump is a Racist as are all his followers. Lol. MD is a pathetic person and a racist himself

Racist think he is racist is good enough for me!

The left can’t win in the arena of ideas so all they do is play the victim and race card. It’s pathetic. Useful idiots

Yep.

TLD, you are a more patient fellow than I am.
You are correct that the most virulent white supremacists celebrate Trump as believing what they believe. And he just grins and tweets another dog whistle for them to applaud. You're right that at least these 'experts' think he's with them.

I know, and am friends with, a whole bunch of 2016 Trump voters who don't think of themselves as bigoted and I certainly wouldn't put them in the same sort of cult-like white supremacy box as the full-on racists that we saw march in Charlottesville, shoot up churches, synagogues, mosques, etc. But (like most of us) they're pretty unaware of their own biases, and are quite offended when someone accuses them of racism.

Most of them are now struggling with Trump's quite apparent racist tendencies.

Seems to me that if you're not at least struggling, one is making the choice to make common cause with racism. You can no longer make excuses that you didn't know.

At least to me, that choice is quite stark. I thought it was stark before 2016, but apparently a lot of folks were willing to close their eyes to it, as well as to the misogyny, as they were really pulling the lever for not-HRC, not-Dem, and for the 'not politically correct'... 'business man'. But having done so, it's now really, really hard for folks who think that simply because they pulled the lever once for Trump, they will be forever tarred as racist. So, they want to keep denying the racism.

But I see a bunch of them no longer cheerleading, no longer pleased to 'stick-it-to-the Dems' as a rationale. They still squawk about how awful the 'left' will be, but they are willing to at least admit their discomfort on this. That's positive.

But not at least struggling?

I did get a bit of a chuckle at a comment that was made about Trump only becoming a racist when he decided to run against the Dems...well, yes, somewhere in the late 2000's Trump appears to have shifted a whole lot of his thinking to an anti-Obama stance, whether suddenly no longer being pro-choice or his embrace of birtherism, indeed becoming its most prominent spokesman. We didn't know he was going to become a Republican candidate, but perhaps he did?

But his racist belief system came way, way earlier, certainly plenty of evidence of such in his property management policies/redlining, and then quite prominently with the Central Park 5. Of course, he came by this racism 'honestly'...his family was all-in with such beliefs. Raised to believe certain folks were inherently inferior to Northern Europeans.

But celebrities? Yup, he palled around with all sorts celebrities, entertainment, super rich, politicians, whatever. The whole image of flashy rich, beautiful women, gold toilets, was appealing to him. Always down for a party, an opportunity to be seen, paparazzi and all. Also, good for the business of casinos, boxing, fast money, etc. The opposite of those Manhattan 'elites' who found him so gauche. He wanted their status ohh so badly, nothing he wouldn't do to elevate himself in his own perception.

So many reasons to dislike the guy.

With a little less luck, Trump would be just another guy working at a grocery story in Whitestone.

[Bandito]

Your daily reminder that:

Trump only became a “racist” when he decided to run against the Democrat party.
Rappers & celebrities loved Trump!
The Dems need 90% of the black vote so every election season they smear their opponents as racists to manipulate blacks into voting for their failed policies.

Historic low unemployment under Trump admin for blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women. The left can’t win in the arena of ideas do they must scream racism and bigotry. Ironically, the left is everything they accuse the right of being. Morons

Oh yeah, and Trump is freeing a black rapper from Sweden. If he was a racist he wouldn’t do that. MDLaxfan76 thinks trump is a Racist as are all his followers. Lol. MD is a pathetic person and a racist himself

Racist think he is racist is good enough for me!

The left can’t win in the arena of ideas so all they do is play the victim and race card. It’s pathetic. Useful idiots

Yep.

TLD, you are a more patient fellow than I am.
You are correct that the most virulent white supremacists celebrate Trump as believing what they believe. And he just grins and tweets another dog whistle for them to applaud. You're right that at least these 'experts' think he's with them.

I know, and am friends with, a whole bunch of 2016 Trump voters who don't think of themselves as bigoted and I certainly wouldn't put them in the same sort of cult-like white supremacy box as the full-on racists that we saw march in Charlottesville, shoot up churches, synagogues, mosques, etc. But (like most of us) they're pretty unaware of their own biases, and are quite offended when someone accuses them of racism.

Most of them are now struggling with Trump's quite apparent racist tendencies.

Seems to me that if you're not at least struggling, one is making the choice to make common cause with racism. You can no longer make excuses that you didn't know.

At least to me, that choice is quite stark. I thought it was stark before 2016, but apparently a lot of folks were willing to close their eyes to it, as well as to the misogyny, as they were really pulling the lever for not-HRC, not-Dem, and for the 'not politically correct'... 'business man'. But having done so, it's now really, really hard for folks who think that simply because they pulled the lever once for Trump, they will be forever tarred as racist. So, they want to keep denying the racism.

But I see a bunch of them no longer cheerleading, no longer pleased to 'stick-it-to-the Dems' as a rationale. They still squawk about how awful the 'left' will be, but they are willing to at least admit their discomfort on this. That's positive.

But not at least struggling?

I did get a bit of a chuckle at a comment that was made about Trump only becoming a racist when he decided to run against the Dems...well, yes, somewhere in the late 2000's Trump appears to have shifted a whole lot of his thinking to an anti-Obama stance, whether suddenly no longer being pro-choice or his embrace of birtherism, indeed becoming its most prominent spokesman. We didn't know he was going to become a Republican candidate, but perhaps he did?

But his racist belief system came way, way earlier, certainly plenty of evidence of such in his property management policies/redlining, and then quite prominently with the Central Park 5. Of course, he came by this racism 'honestly'...his family was all-in with such beliefs. Raised to believe certain folks were inherently inferior to Northern Europeans.

But celebrities? Yup, he palled around with all sorts celebrities, entertainment, super rich, politicians, whatever. The whole image of flashy rich, beautiful women, gold toilets, was appealing to him. Always down for a party, an opportunity to be seen, paparazzi and all. Also, good for the business of casinos, boxing, fast money, etc. The opposite of those Manhattan 'elites' who found him so gauche. He wanted their status ohh so badly, nothing he wouldn't do to elevate himself in his own perception.

So many reasons to dislike the guy.

You nailed it we are white supremacists! You’re a racist piece of trash. It’s hysterical to see how triggered you are by Trump. You’re a pansy beta male

[RedFromMI]

Bandito - it is amazing how triggered you get when someone shows (with evidence) some problem with Trump. The amount of projection is huge. The fact is that Trump has many character flaws, has never been prepared to be President, and has failed miserably in many aspects of his current job (just like he had many failures as a businessman before).

You would rather call people names and make claims about their character than actually making an intelligent argument. As Trump would say: Sad!

[nomofogo]

Have you guys considered that Bandito IS Donald Trump?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Have you guys considered that Bandito IS Donald Trump?

Travis Bickle

[a fan]

Bandito - it is amazing how triggered you get when someone shows (with evidence) some problem with Trump. The amount of projection is huge. The fact is that Trump has many character flaws, has never been prepared to be President, and has failed miserably in many aspects of his current job (just like he had many failures as a businessman before).

You would rather call people names and make claims about their character than actually making an intelligent argument. As Trump would say: Sad!

Shows you how scary a pro-government zealot is.

If you gave Bandito the choice, how fast do you think he'd shut down the free press....whoops, I mean fake news? He do it in a heartbeat. He wouldn't pause for even a second. He thinks the free press is the enemy of the Government, and that you can't question the Government. Only the Federal Government knows the truth, all else is enemy.

And if you gave him the power, how fast do you think he'd jail Democratic leaders, and their supporters? For Bandito, the Dems are the enemy of the Federal Government, and only the Federal Government knows right from wrong.

Pretty scary. Never thought I'd see someone this into the Federal Government at the Water Cooler. Live and learn, I guess.

[seacoaster]

A view of how Trump supporters can try to square his racism with their own notions of themselves. Anyone for a frito?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... 2d1e53ecc7

"In the case of Trump’s remarks — when absorbed by his supporters who do not consider themselves racist — those inconsistencies can be summarized in a sort of syllogism: (1) I do not support racists. (2) I do support President Trump. (3) President Trump has just made a racist remark. Those three facts simply don’t fit together comfortably in the mind.

Just as a hungry person will seek food to alleviate hunger, Festinger argued, people who experience mental discrepancies of this sort will work to put them in accord, to reduce the dissonance. And they will often go to extraordinary lengths to do so: Resolving cognitive dissonance often takes considerable mental gymnastics.

Supporters of Trump who experience cognitive dissonance over his remarks essentially have three psychological options to resolve it, altering in various ways the three beliefs that are in tension. One is to change the belief that they do not support racists. This response is unlikely, however, because it would require a massive overhaul of the view of the self, placing the person in a category he or she knows is morally dubious, not to mention socially vilified. Very rare is the person who will resolve psychological dissonance by saying, “Actually, I am a monster.”

Another option is to introduce new beliefs that bolster support for Trump. This does not address the conflicts among beliefs head-on but rather lessens the impact of the inflammatory statement by considering positive information about the president. One approach along these lines is to emphasize the awfulness of the policy positions and statements of the congresswomen Trump attacked, thereby casting the president as a defender of decency (and perhaps as a victim himself, not an aggressor). Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), for instance, described Democratic Reps. Rashida Tlaib (Mich.), Ayanna Pressley (Mass.), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.) and Ilhan Omar (Minn.) as “a bunch of communists” who “hate Israel” and “hate our own country.” Relatedly, Marc Short, Vice President Pence’s chief of staff, played up Trump’s lack of racism in other contexts, noting that his transportation secretary, Elaine Chao, was born in Taiwan. As reasons for supporting the president grow — either his sterling qualities or the negative characteristics of his opponents — it becomes easier to overlook a single misstep.

A third route to resolving dissonance, in this specific case, is to flatly (and boldly) reject the consensus that telling someone to “go back” to their family’s country of origin is racist. Rep. Harris — with his revisionist argument that Trump wanted the women to go back to their districts — is probably the most striking example of this. But Fox News analyst Brit Hume may also belong in this category, with his hairsplitting statement that Trump’s comments were “nativist, xenophobic . . . and politically stupid” — but absolutely not racist, “a word so recklessly flung around these days that its actual meaning is being lost.” If Trump is just the latest in a long parade of people falsely accused of racism by liberals, that, too, makes it easier to take his side. (“Xenophobic” is not too far from “racist,” definitionally, but it does not carry nearly the same moral charge, so reframing the accusation that way may well ease psychological tension.)

Since the uproar, Trump has proclaimed that many people agree with his controversial statement and that indeed, “a lot of people love it.” But decades of behavioral research suggests that not all the people refraining from condemning the president support his attacks. Instead, they’re doing mental contortions to explain away the ugliness, to justify their continued support of him — and to maintain their positive views of themselves."

[Brooklyn]

Mrs. Betty Bowers
@BettyBowers



Evangelicals are angry with Trump for using God's name to swear.

God is angry that Evangelicals for using God's name to support Trump.

Because the biggest blasphemy imaginable is saying your god wanted a racist rapist who cages children to be president.


Mrs. Betty Bowers
@BettyBowers
Evangelicals are angry with Trump for using God's name to swear.

God is angry that Evangelicals for using God's name to support Trump.

Because the biggest blasphemy imaginable is saying your god wanted a racist rapist who cages children to be president.https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/201 ... d-goddamn/ …


Despite Trump’s Racist Rally, Some Christians Are Just Upset He Said “Goddamn”
Kids in cages? Fine. Racist attacks on congresswomen? Fine. Swearing? THINK OF THE KIDS!

friendlyatheist.patheos.com
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4:27 PM - Jul 20, 2019

[MDlaxfan76]

A view of how Trump supporters can try to square his racism with their own notions of themselves. Anyone for a frito?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... 2d1e53ecc7

"In the case of Trump’s remarks — when absorbed by his supporters who do not consider themselves racist — those inconsistencies can be summarized in a sort of syllogism: (1) I do not support racists. (2) I do support President Trump. (3) President Trump has just made a racist remark. Those three facts simply don’t fit together comfortably in the mind.

Just as a hungry person will seek food to alleviate hunger, Festinger argued, people who experience mental discrepancies of this sort will work to put them in accord, to reduce the dissonance. And they will often go to extraordinary lengths to do so: Resolving cognitive dissonance often takes considerable mental gymnastics.

Supporters of Trump who experience cognitive dissonance over his remarks essentially have three psychological options to resolve it, altering in various ways the three beliefs that are in tension. One is to change the belief that they do not support racists. This response is unlikely, however, because it would require a massive overhaul of the view of the self, placing the person in a category he or she knows is morally dubious, not to mention socially vilified. Very rare is the person who will resolve psychological dissonance by saying, “Actually, I am a monster.”

Another option is to introduce new beliefs that bolster support for Trump. This does not address the conflicts among beliefs head-on but rather lessens the impact of the inflammatory statement by considering positive information about the president. One approach along these lines is to emphasize the awfulness of the policy positions and statements of the congresswomen Trump attacked, thereby casting the president as a defender of decency (and perhaps as a victim himself, not an aggressor). Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), for instance, described Democratic Reps. Rashida Tlaib (Mich.), Ayanna Pressley (Mass.), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.) and Ilhan Omar (Minn.) as “a bunch of communists” who “hate Israel” and “hate our own country.” Relatedly, Marc Short, Vice President Pence’s chief of staff, played up Trump’s lack of racism in other contexts, noting that his transportation secretary, Elaine Chao, was born in Taiwan. As reasons for supporting the president grow — either his sterling qualities or the negative characteristics of his opponents — it becomes easier to overlook a single misstep.

A third route to resolving dissonance, in this specific case, is to flatly (and boldly) reject the consensus that telling someone to “go back” to their family’s country of origin is racist. Rep. Harris — with his revisionist argument that Trump wanted the women to go back to their districts — is probably the most striking example of this. But Fox News analyst Brit Hume may also belong in this category, with his hairsplitting statement that Trump’s comments were “nativist, xenophobic . . . and politically stupid” — but absolutely not racist, “a word so recklessly flung around these days that its actual meaning is being lost.” If Trump is just the latest in a long parade of people falsely accused of racism by liberals, that, too, makes it easier to take his side. (“Xenophobic” is not too far from “racist,” definitionally, but it does not carry nearly the same moral charge, so reframing the accusation that way may well ease psychological tension.)

Since the uproar, Trump has proclaimed that many people agree with his controversial statement and that indeed, “a lot of people love it.” But decades of behavioral research suggests that not all the people refraining from condemning the president support his attacks. Instead, they’re doing mental contortions to explain away the ugliness, to justify their continued support of him — and to maintain their positive views of themselves."

Exactly. I see quite a lot of people struggling with this cognitive dissonance.

I'd stress that most people, including most 2016 Trump voters, do not want to think of themselves as bigoted or racist. They want to think that they see people as individuals and ignore their racial, ethnic, religious, etc identity. They want to think they only 'discriminate' on the basis of how people behave, their ideologies, etc.

And in most situations, they will behave generously towards individuals.
Yet, turn around and make negative assumptions about others on the basis of their racial, ethnic, religious, gender, etc 'difference'.

Cognitive dissonance is rough.

[youthathletics]

Or self-perception theory. hmmmm.

Funny, many lawyers have cognitive dissonance and coincidentally presidents are also lawyers. Even the Obamas, except "for some strange reason" they both voluntarily changed their registration status to inactive or retired in 2008.

[RedFromMI]

Or self-perception theory. hmmmm.

Funny, many lawyers have cognitive dissonance and coincidentally presidents are also lawyers. Even the Obamas, except "for some strange reason" they both voluntarily changed their registration status to inactive or retired in 2008.

Actually only 57%, and a number of them were not graduates of law school, but admitted to the bar after independent study.

Since FDR:

Code: Select all

President                    Undergraduate Education                           Graduate Education

Roosevelt                Harvard                                      Columbia Law School (withdrew, awarded JD in 2008 for class of 1907)
Truman                   Spalding's Commercial College (withdrew)     Univ. of Kansas City School of Law (withdrew)
Eisenhower               USMA                                         US Army Command & General Staff College, Industrial College, War College
Kennedy                  London School of Econ./Princeton/Harvard     Stanford Graduate School of Business (auditor)
Johnson                  SW Texas State College (Texas State now)     Georgetown University Law Center (withdrew)
Nixon                    Whittier College                             Duke University School of Law
Ford                     Michigan                                     Yale Law
Carter                   GA SW College (xfer)/GA Tech (xfer)/         Union College (Postgraduate Nuclear Physics Course Program)
                               USNA
Reagan                   Eureka College                                     (none)
GHW Bush                 Yale                                               (none)
Clinton                  Georgetown                                   Oxford (Rhodes Scholar/withdrew), Yale Law
GW Bush                  Yale                                         Harvard Business School
Obama                    Occidental (xfer)/Columbia                   Harvard Law
Trump                    Fordham (xfer)/Penn                                (none)