2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[Typical Lax Dad]

MDlaxfan76 wrote
I don't recall the 'formula' that was once used,

The one drop rule.

TLD wrote
If most people here didn’t know her and ran into Kamala at a grocery store, I don’t think they would think she was anything other than another black lady.

I absolutely would not see Kamala as "another black lady". No more so than I'd see the Great Cocker as a Great Dane. Wouldn't see her as a Swede, but likely a Latino.

Funny re not seeing Harris as 'black'. I know quite a few 'black' women of various complexions and likely mixed heritages. All of them would self-identify with the 'black experience' in America, none would deny their African roots as part of their ethnic heritage. BTW, quite a few latinos have some or a lot of African heritage, so perhaps that's what you're 'seeing'.

But I'd agree that I wouldn't see her simply as 'another black lady'.
She's too attractive looking (to my eyes) to simply be "another" anything.

Which one is the Black lady, which one is the Latino lady?


That's why I wouldn't see Kamala as a Black lady.

I am thirsty

[MDlaxfan76]

MDlaxfan76 wrote
I don't recall the 'formula' that was once used,

The one drop rule.

TLD wrote
If most people here didn’t know her and ran into Kamala at a grocery store, I don’t think they would think she was anything other than another black lady.

I absolutely would not see Kamala as "another black lady". No more so than I'd see the Great Cocker as a Great Dane. Wouldn't see her as a Swede, but likely a Latino.

Funny re not seeing Harris as 'black'. I know quite a few 'black' women of various complexions and likely mixed heritages. All of them would self-identify with the 'black experience' in America, none would deny their African roots as part of their ethnic heritage. BTW, quite a few latinos have some or a lot of African heritage, so perhaps that's what you're 'seeing'.

But I'd agree that I wouldn't see her simply as 'another black lady'.
She's too attractive looking (to my eyes) to simply be "another" anything.

Which one is the Black lady, which one is the Latino lady?


That's why I wouldn't see Kamala as a Black lady.

J Lo likely has some African heritage too, as J Lo’s parents are from Puerto Rico, 80% of whom have African heritage. In that picture she appears darker skinned than in most pics, probably with some bronzer or sun.

[MDlaxfan76]

MDlaxfan76 wrote
I don't recall the 'formula' that was once used,

The one drop rule.

TLD wrote
If most people here didn’t know her and ran into Kamala at a grocery store, I don’t think they would think she was anything other than another black lady.

I absolutely would not see Kamala as "another black lady". No more so than I'd see the Great Cocker as a Great Dane. Wouldn't see her as a Swede, but likely a Latino.

Funny re not seeing Harris as 'black'. I know quite a few 'black' women of various complexions and likely mixed heritages. All of them would self-identify with the 'black experience' in America, none would deny their African roots as part of their ethnic heritage. BTW, quite a few latinos have some or a lot of African heritage, so perhaps that's what you're 'seeing'.

But I'd agree that I wouldn't see her simply as 'another black lady'.
She's too attractive looking (to my eyes) to simply be "another" anything.

Which one is the Black lady, which one is the Latino lady?


That's why I wouldn't see Kamala as a Black lady.

J Lo likely has some African heritage too, as J Lo’s parents are from Puerto Rico, 80% of whom have African heritage. In that picture she appears darker skinned than in most pics, probably with some bronzer or sun.

Pretty darn attractive pair of gals, though I doubt we'll see Harris clothed that way...

[DMac]

Which one is the Black lady, which one is the Latino lady?


Which one never smoked pot?
(trick question)


Surely it's reasonable to think that someone would be (more) apt to indentify her as a Latino in a super market.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Which one is the Black lady, which one is the Latino lady?


Which one never smoked pot?
(trick question)


Surely it's reasonable to think that someone would be (more) apt to indentify her as a Latino in a super market.

Most people would call all of them black (or worse), but some may say Kamala is not a "real" black.....I would bet my retirement that all of them have been called worse at some point in their lives All smoked pot at some point, if I had to bet!

[HooDat]

I can't believe are having a discussion about Kamala's "blackness"

But, what I do think puts off some people is a sense that she is opportunistic about claiming various aggrieved status bona fides.... My understanding is that she chose to be sworn in as an Indian-American, not a black, congress-woman? Those kinds of calculations strike hollow with many folks.

[HooDat]

anyone ever hear the story about the first time Snoop smoked pot with WIlly? Apparently, Snoop had never been more high in his life.....

[old salt]

I can't believe are having a discussion about Kamala's "blackness"

But, what I do think puts off some people is a sense that she is opportunistic about claiming various aggrieved status bona fides.... My understanding is that she chose to be sworn in as an Indian-American, not a black, congress-woman? Those kinds of calculations strike hollow with many folks.

It will become an issue when she proposes her plan for reparations.

[DMac]

I can't believe are having a discussion about Kamala's "blackness"
Nay, nay, nay, it's not about her "blackness"....

But, what I do think puts off some people is a sense that she is opportunistic about claiming various aggrieved status bona fides.... My understanding is that she chose to be sworn in as an Indian-American, not a black, congress-woman? Those kinds of calculations strike hollow with many folks.
...^ this.

I did hear hear Snoop tell his Willie story.
Gotta love Snoop, he's had quite an influence on Martha.
(click on at 1:35)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8wOs1On0pk

[6ftstick]

MDlaxfan76 wrote
I don't recall the 'formula' that was once used,

The one drop rule.

TLD wrote
If most people here didn’t know her and ran into Kamala at a grocery store, I don’t think they would think she was anything other than another black lady.

I absolutely would not see Kamala as "another black lady". No more so than I'd see the Great Cocker as a Great Dane. Wouldn't see her as a Swede, but likely a Latino.

Funny re not seeing Harris as 'black'. I know quite a few 'black' women of various complexions and likely mixed heritages. All of them would self-identify with the 'black experience' in America, none would deny their African roots as part of their ethnic heritage. BTW, quite a few latinos have some or a lot of African heritage, so perhaps that's what you're 'seeing'.

But I'd agree that I wouldn't see her simply as 'another black lady'.
She's too attractive looking (to my eyes) to simply be "another" anything.

Which one is the Black lady, which one is the Latino lady?


That's why I wouldn't see Kamala as a Black lady.

J Lo likely has some African heritage too, as J Lo’s parents are from Puerto Rico, 80% of whom have African heritage. In that picture she appears darker skinned than in most pics, probably with some bronzer or sun.

She's got her Alex Rodriguez rub on!

[Typical Lax Dad]

I can't believe are having a discussion about Kamala's "blackness"

But, what I do think puts off some people is a sense that she is opportunistic about claiming various aggrieved status bona fides.... My understanding is that she chose to be sworn in as an Indian-American, not a black, congress-woman? Those kinds of calculations strike hollow with many folks.

She won’t be the first person to use their heritage opportunistically. I had always thought she was black. Didn’t know until recently she had East Indian heritage. No big deal.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I can't believe are having a discussion about Kamala's "blackness"
Nay, nay, nay, it's not about her "blackness"....

But, what I do think puts off some people is a sense that she is opportunistic about claiming various aggrieved status bona fides.... My understanding is that she chose to be sworn in as an Indian-American, not a black, congress-woman? Those kinds of calculations strike hollow with many folks.
...^ this.

I did hear hear Snoop tell his Willie story.
Gotta love Snoop, he's had quite an influence on Martha.
(click on at 1:35)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8wOs1On0pk

Snoop and Martha are quite a team. I liked their program. My daughter really liked it.

[DMac]

One would think an unlikely duo but they're highly entertaining together.
As for the "no big deal", agree 100%. Just don't care about the ethnicity, gay, gender, color hair/eyes, etc., only care about the right and best person for the job.

[Typical Lax Dad]

One would think an unlikely duo but they're highly entertaining together.
As for the "no big deal", agree 100%. Just don't care about the ethnicity, gay, gender, color hair/eyes, etc., only care about the right and best person for the job.

Martha is something else. She actually had bankers at her house to go over a deal years ago. She made sandwiches and finger food. At the end of the meeting, she charged for the food and handed out a receipt!

[MDlaxfan76]

I can't believe are having a discussion about Kamala's "blackness"

But, what I do think puts off some people is a sense that she is opportunistic about claiming various aggrieved status bona fides.... My understanding is that she chose to be sworn in as an Indian-American, not a black, congress-woman? Those kinds of calculations strike hollow with many folks.

She won’t be the first person to use their heritage opportunistically. I had always thought she was black. Didn’t know until recently she had East Indian heritage. No big deal.

The challenge for mixed heritage folks like Kamala is that white folks definitely see color, but both sides of her heritage aren’t so sure she’s ‘black enough ‘ or ‘East Indian enough ‘ or whatever to fit in with them.

But TLD is right, she undoubtedly has experienced folks calling her one slur or another.

I don’t know about the other white folks on here, but I never experienced worse than ‘yuppie ‘ or ‘wasp’, not exactly suggesting hatred or fear.

[MDlaxfan76]

I can't believe are having a discussion about Kamala's "blackness"

But, what I do think puts off some people is a sense that she is opportunistic about claiming various aggrieved status bona fides.... My understanding is that she chose to be sworn in as an Indian-American, not a black, congress-woman? Those kinds of calculations strike hollow with many folks.

It will become an issue when she proposes her plan for reparations.

I just looked it up and all the contemporaneous news stories noted that she was the first black woman Senator from California and the first Senator of East Indian descent. Exactly accurate.

It blows my mind that many white folks think this is something to actually criticize rather than to celebrate.

[old salt]

I can't believe are having a discussion about Kamala's "blackness"

But, what I do think puts off some people is a sense that she is opportunistic about claiming various aggrieved status bona fides.... My understanding is that she chose to be sworn in as an Indian-American, not a black, congress-woman? Those kinds of calculations strike hollow with many folks.

It will become an issue when she proposes her plan for reparations.

I just looked it up and all the contemporaneous news stories noted that she was the first black woman Senator from California and the first Senator of East Indian descent. Exactly accurate.

It blows my mind that many white folks think this is something to actually criticize rather than to celebrate.

How 'bout a quote of some white folks criticizing her for her heritage.

[CU77]

Trump Jr. amplified those attacks when, on Thursday, he shared a tweet sent by one user with the assertion, "Kamala Harris is *not* an American Black. She is half Indian and half Jamaican."
"Is this true? Wow," Trump Jr. asked along with the shared tweet. He later deleted his tweet. A spokesman for Trump Jr. told The New York Times that there had been a misunderstanding.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/01/politics ... index.html

But hey, why stop at Junior? Senior seems to have no problem criticizing other black female members of Congress for their heritage. I'm sure you've seen those tweets, os.

[old salt]

Trump Jr. amplified those attacks when, on Thursday, he shared a tweet sent by one user with the assertion, "Kamala Harris is *not* an American Black. She is half Indian and half Jamaican."
"Is this true? Wow," Trump Jr. asked along with the shared tweet. He later deleted his tweet. A spokesman for Trump Jr. told The New York Times that there had been a misunderstanding.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/01/politics ... index.html

But hey, why stop at Junior? Senior seems to have no problem criticizing other black female members of Congress for their heritage. I'm sure you've seen those tweets, os.

Actually no, I haven't. I don't follow tweets.
Trump Jr expressed surprise. That's an attack ?
I was referring to anyone in these forums criticizing Kamala for her heritage.
btw -- I didn't bring it up.

Was Trump criticizing the Congresspersons for their heritage or for their attacks on the USA ?
Were they black female members of Congress ? This is all very confusing.

[DMac]

I can't believe are having a discussion about Kamala's "blackness"

But, what I do think puts off some people is a sense that she is opportunistic about claiming various aggrieved status bona fides.... My understanding is that she chose to be sworn in as an Indian-American, not a black, congress-woman? Those kinds of calculations strike hollow with many folks.

It will become an issue when she proposes her plan for reparations.

I just looked it up and all the contemporaneous news stories noted that she was the first black woman Senator from California and the first Senator of East Indian descent. Exactly accurate.

It blows my mind that many white folks think this is something to actually criticize rather than to celebrate.

No one is criticizing anyone's color or ethnicity, just finding it a little confusing.
Coincidentally I caught this gal being interviewed tonight, in the interview she described herself as a person of color.

I can't find that interview, but if you click on this one at 1:18 you can hear her describe her color (might want to close your eyes so as to not have any preconcived ideas of what it might be before listening):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVNYj4R2G2o
My English-French, brunette, brown eyed wife had a more brown/olive skin tone than this gal. Guess the new person of color is anyone who doesn't look like Anna Kournakova.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mQJaXwGPlg