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If I were The Donald I’d steer clear of Dershowitz and The Jeffrey.
Sexual Assault ~ Weinstein, Epstein, etc.
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“I don’t take responsibility at all.” —Donald J Trump
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So why couldn't the PB DA find just one of them willing & credible enough to take to trial ?OCanada wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:55 pm BTW DOJ has a 57 page indictment drawn up and ready to go. The stench from the plea deal is worse than you think. One item for example gives Epstein and his attorneys veto powerful over the attorneys who would represent the girls. There were more than 100 witnesses interviewed and dozens of victims. In another case there was one victim and Acosta prosecuted it harshly about the same times
Rather than punting to Acosta for a complex interstate trafficking charge.
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OS asked and answered. Wrong question. Why didn’t DOJ proceed with its 57 page indictment.
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So are Trumpists hoping The Jeffrey makes bail? Imagine if Epstein flips.....
“I don’t take responsibility at all.” —Donald J Trump
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why would anyone (other than a fellow pedophile) have any interest in ANYONE linked to this being able to walk free?
Nail every, single, bastard to the wall.....
STILL somewhere back in the day....
...and waiting/hoping for a tinfoil hat emoji......
...and waiting/hoping for a tinfoil hat emoji......
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That would have been a reasonable course of action AFTER Epstein & assistants were tried in FL courts for lesser complex sex-related crimes, if they were not convicted or received inadequate sentences. The PB police had the evidence to go right to trial, without even going to a Grand Jury.
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Not the way it works though. In joint investigations DOJ rules. The notion there are two equal parties is false. Thetrxos a good reason he is done. There is no good reason to defend a guy who helped protect a guy trafficking in the trafficking of young girls, The plea deal was illegal, it’s contents are despicable. When you get into an encounter with a skunk you get smelly
BTW NEW: Federal prosecutor Alex Rossmiller says that invesitgators found in his house a locked safe with cash, diamonds, and a now expired passport from another country which shows Jeffrey Epstein's picture but has a different name and says his residence is Saudi Arabia. The USA won’t hold SA responsible for government murder and our child rapists has a passport to go there. So convenient.
BTW NEW: Federal prosecutor Alex Rossmiller says that invesitgators found in his house a locked safe with cash, diamonds, and a now expired passport from another country which shows Jeffrey Epstein's picture but has a different name and says his residence is Saudi Arabia. The USA won’t hold SA responsible for government murder and our child rapists has a passport to go there. So convenient.
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Do we really think that the political/economic 'friends of Jeffrey' only leaned on the Feds?
I don't.
I don't.
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The US Atty has the discretion to decide if & when to intercede. They were separate investigations for separate crimes. The PB PD had already completed their investigation & were ready to go to trial on state sex-related crimes, over which the DoJ does not have jurisdiction. Those crimes were much more straight forward & easier to investigate & litigate than complex Federal trafficking charges, which could still have been pursued had the state charges not secured convictions or guilty pleas with appropriate sentences. The break down was at the local & state level, where Epstein would have walked, on just a misdemeanor.
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hmmm, that's not what most of the reporting has been.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:28 pmThe US Atty has the discretion to decide if & when to intercede. They were separate investigations for separate crimes. The PB PD had already completed their investigation & were ready to go to trial on state sex-related crimes, over which the DoJ does not have jurisdiction. Those crimes were much more straight forward & easier to investigate & litigate than complex Federal trafficking charges, which could still have been pursued had the state charges not secured convictions or guilty pleas with appropriate sentences. The break down was at the local & state level, where Epstein would have walked, on just a misdemeanor.
Sounds much more like the local prosecutors were getting pushed hard by the police, who were insisting that they had way more than enough to secure convictions, but were getting leaned on, and the Feds stepped in and preempted them.
This all makes much more sense that the 'friends of Jeffrey' were putting pressure on across the board. Big legal guns and big political pressure. Payoffs galore, physical threats as well.
Bottomline, the Acosta deal was ridiculous on many levels, including flat out breaking the law. It's obscene to try to give him a pass.
That said, nail the 'friends'. Hold them all accountable.
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One the "best".That's his mama! She resembles Fritoboy's and Trump mother as well as Graham's.
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Nice defense counselor.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:28 pmThe US Atty has the discretion to decide if & when to intercede. They were separate investigations for separate crimes. The PB PD had already completed their investigation & were ready to go to trial on state sex-related crimes, over which the DoJ does not have jurisdiction. Those crimes were much more straight forward & easier to investigate & litigate than complex Federal trafficking charges, which could still have been pursued had the state charges not secured convictions or guilty pleas with appropriate sentences. The break down was at the local & state level, where Epstein would have walked, on just a misdemeanor.
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Had the PB DA done his job, Epstein would now be in his second decade in prison.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:17 pmNice defense counselor.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:28 pmThe US Atty has the discretion to decide if & when to intercede. They were separate investigations for separate crimes. The PB PD had already completed their investigation & were ready to go to trial on state sex-related crimes, over which the DoJ does not have jurisdiction. Those crimes were much more straight forward & easier to investigate & litigate than complex Federal trafficking charges, which could still have been pursued had the state charges not secured convictions or guilty pleas with appropriate sentences. The break down was at the local & state level, where Epstein would have walked, on just a misdemeanor.
Where was the outrage when Epstein walked ?
There was no interest until Acosta's confirmation hearing.
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Acosta was dealt a bad hand. People just don't like Trump. Most prosecutors would do that deal in their sleep.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:22 pmHad the PB DA done his job, Epstein would now be in his second decade in prison.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:17 pmNice defense counselor.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:28 pmThe US Atty has the discretion to decide if & when to intercede. They were separate investigations for separate crimes. The PB PD had already completed their investigation & were ready to go to trial on state sex-related crimes, over which the DoJ does not have jurisdiction. Those crimes were much more straight forward & easier to investigate & litigate than complex Federal trafficking charges, which could still have been pursued had the state charges not secured convictions or guilty pleas with appropriate sentences. The break down was at the local & state level, where Epstein would have walked, on just a misdemeanor.
Where was the outrage when Epstein walked ?
There was no interest until Acosta's confirmation hearing.
“I wish you would!”
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Here's the measly coverage of the Epstein deal before Acosta became a Trump appointee.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:29 pmAcosta was dealt a bad hand. People just don't like Trump. Most prosecutors would do that deal in their sleep.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:22 pmHad the PB DA done his job, Epstein would now be in his second decade in prison.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:17 pmNice defense counselor.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:28 pmThe US Atty has the discretion to decide if & when to intercede. They were separate investigations for separate crimes. The PB PD had already completed their investigation & were ready to go to trial on state sex-related crimes, over which the DoJ does not have jurisdiction. Those crimes were much more straight forward & easier to investigate & litigate than complex Federal trafficking charges, which could still have been pursued had the state charges not secured convictions or guilty pleas with appropriate sentences. The break down was at the local & state level, where Epstein would have walked, on just a misdemeanor.
Where was the outrage when Epstein walked ?
There was no interest until Acosta's confirmation hearing.
The Fed plea deal was deemed adequate, until it could be used as a way to hammer Trump.
MSM crickets until Acosta's confirmation hearing.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-e ... t-off-easy
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Of course!
Why do you think Behghazi, a piddly skirmish, was in MSM headlines for four nonstop years, yet the Naval collisions was in and out of the news in a matter of days?
Same exact reason. One bothers you (Acosta), the other (Hillary) you cheered. And again, for the same exact reason.
Why do you think Behghazi, a piddly skirmish, was in MSM headlines for four nonstop years, yet the Naval collisions was in and out of the news in a matter of days?
Same exact reason. One bothers you (Acosta), the other (Hillary) you cheered. And again, for the same exact reason.
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What a BS false equivalency. The Navy immediately owned up to what happened (no bogus talking points), immediately conducted a JAG investigation, fired most of the chain of command (including flag officers) & revised the entire training regime for Surface Warfare Officers.a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:36 pm Of course!
Why do you think Behghazi, a piddly skirmish, was in MSM headlines for four nonstop years, yet the Naval collisions was in and out of the news in a matter of days?
Same exact reason. One bothers you (Acosta), the other (Hillary) you cheered. And again, for the same exact reason.
SecNav didn't BS Congress with a whitewash internal report, then dodge testifying for 9 mos because he fell & bumped his head.
https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2017/0 ... 504852317/
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Because every prosecutor would do that deal in their sleep, the coverage was spotty. It wasn’t until someone figured it would stain Trump that people questioned Acosta’s decision. Those girls were asking for it. Acosta handled it perfectly.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:34 pmHere's the measly coverage of the Epstein deal before Acosta became a Trump appointee.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:29 pmAcosta was dealt a bad hand. People just don't like Trump. Most prosecutors would do that deal in their sleep.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:22 pmHad the PB DA done his job, Epstein would now be in his second decade in prison.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:17 pmNice defense counselor.old salt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:28 pmThe US Atty has the discretion to decide if & when to intercede. They were separate investigations for separate crimes. The PB PD had already completed their investigation & were ready to go to trial on state sex-related crimes, over which the DoJ does not have jurisdiction. Those crimes were much more straight forward & easier to investigate & litigate than complex Federal trafficking charges, which could still have been pursued had the state charges not secured convictions or guilty pleas with appropriate sentences. The break down was at the local & state level, where Epstein would have walked, on just a misdemeanor.
Where was the outrage when Epstein walked ?
There was no interest until Acosta's confirmation hearing.
The Fed plea deal was deemed adequate, until it could be used as a way to hammer Trump.
MSM crickets until Acosta's confirmation hearing.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-e ... t-off-easy
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The MSM was all over the story. Especially the ABC, NBC & CBS news headliners.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-e ... t-off-easy
...the apparent ease with which Epstein has rejoined the ranks of a social elite. Katie Couric, Woody Allen, and George Stephanopoulos, among others, attended a dinner party he hosted for Prince Andrew in December, and New York authorities seem to be either unaware or unconcerned that his Upper East Side home is within 1,000 feet of an Episcopal pre-school, in violation of sex-offender laws.
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