Sexual Assault ~ Weinstein, Epstein, etc.

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:57 pm No big deal.... just your garden variety statutory rape.....

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If the FL State's Atty Kirscher had followed the PB Police recommendations, charged Epstein & taken it to trial, the whole thing could have been nipped in the bud. If they did not convict, then the DoJ should have followed with the only thing they could charge -- trafficking.
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Corruption can be pervasive, especially in Florida. Of course the NYC cops didn’t make him check in and the doormen on the block saw who came and went and said nothing.
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old salt wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:04 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:57 pm No big deal.... just your garden variety statutory rape.....

Acosta is a douche

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If the FL State's Atty Kirscher had followed the PB Police recommendations, charged Epstein & taken it to trial, the whole thing could have been nipped in the bud. If they did not convict, then the DoJ should have followed with the only thing they could charge -- trafficking.
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I’d like to congratulate Carla Provost.
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Trinity wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:05 pm Corruption can be pervasive, especially in Florida. Of course the NYC cops didn’t make him check in and the doormen on the block saw who came and went and said nothing.
Doorman probably saw the girls in their Girl Scout uniforms and didn’t think anything of it...
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Here's where they had Epstein & first let him off the hook :
Krischer = PB State's Atty ; Recarey = PB Police lead detective.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... 10674.html

In May 2006, Recarey drew up probable cause affidavits, charging Epstein, two of his assistants and one recruiter with sex-related crimes. Instead, Krischer took what Recarey said was the unusual step of referring the case to a state grand jury. Epstein was indicted in state court on a minor charge of solicitation of prostitution.

Recarey said Krischer told him he didn’t believe Epstein’s accusers, and only two of them were called before the state grand jury investigating the case — even though police had lined up more than a dozen girls and witnesses at that time.
Believing that the case had been tainted, Reiter — that same month, May 2006 — took a very public stance against Krischer, writing a letter, which was released to the news media, calling on Krischer to remove himself from the case. The chief then referred it to the FBI, which opened its own investigation in July 2006, FBI records show.
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Here's another guys reason, the real PizzaGate

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148 ... 91968.html
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foreverlax wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:55 pm Here's another guys reason, the real PizzaGate

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148 ... 91968.html
A friend of mine mentioned to me two weeks ago that of all the PE firms and Hedge Fund shops he covers, he has never heard of Epsteins' and wonders where the money comes from.
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Acosta agreed to tip-off Epstein’s lawyers if someone tried to make the agreement public, “If the United State receives a Freedom of Information request or any compulsory process commanding the disclosure of the agreement . . .the government had to warn The Jeffrey.
Glenn Kirshner.

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foreverlax wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:55 pm Here's another guys reason, the real PizzaGate

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148 ... 91968.html
That's a risky game. Given the people he'd be F-ing with, Pedophile Island would have suddenly become a smoking hole in the ocean.
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runrussellrun wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:15 pm
OCanada wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:03 pm There are current investigations going on in several other countries of this POS. Acosta probably can’t be prosecuted which is unfortunate. Anyone think Trump wasn’t involved with this directly or indirectly is in my view in denial. Recall Trump Models? Trump escorts,? Trunp’s Private party with Epstein and 28 very young girls? Trump and the teen beauty contest ?
I can not stand tRump as a person. But, the trump escorts thing........nothing to do with Donald TRUMP. Fake news
True. And the MSM media and various fact checkers have debunked it...not that there's been much of an explanation as to why Trump and co never did anything to object to their brand being used. For years and years. Had to know, right? They sued others, but not the Escort company. Was that because it was at least 'on brand'?

But so much else to critique, don't really need that one...
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:22 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:55 pm Here's another guys reason, the real PizzaGate

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148 ... 91968.html
A friend of mine mentioned to me two weeks ago that of all the PE firms and Hedge Fund shops he covers, he has never heard of Epsteins' and wonders where the money comes from.
Saw the beginnings of some reporting on this. His mentor at Bear Stearns did 20 years for what was then the largest Ponzi scheme in history (before Madoff). Mento claims Epstein stole his money. Other reporting is that in the '80's Epstein claimed he was helping people recover stolen money...smells like he was helping rich people hide their money from the tax man. Lucrative.
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old salt wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:23 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:34 pm
OCanada wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:33 pm Because he was the DOJ. In this cases DOJ makes the final call that is why

Because statements like"it is obvious he did not want to prosecute because he thought he would lose" is foolish. It is why he no longer has a job. His Friday presser was filled with lies and distortions. Further is sweetheart plea deal was an gross aberration and illegal.
OCanada wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:13 pm Nope. He overruled the local prosecutor who has said there was MORE than enough evidence to convict. Plus there were his omissions. He never went after Epstein's computer for example. And there is the evidence in the public domain. More than enough
BS. What did the FL Prosecutor get out of his Grand Jury ? What plea deal did the FL prosecutor offer Epstein, before Acosta intervened ?
Here's the answer :
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jeffrey- ... vTkJ-Q73Nd

2005: Reported to police by a 14-year-old girl and her parents

The teenager said in March 2005 that she was taken by a peer to Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion, where she says he paid her to give him a massage. An ensuing police investigation signaled that Epstein was in contact with multiple girls, and his staff said the girls visited frequently.

May 2006: Charged with multiple counts of unlawful sex acts with a minor

The state attorney at the time, Barry Krischer, referred the case to a grand jury. A grand jury heard from just two of the dozen-plus girls law enforcement had gathered as witnesses, the Miami Herald reported, and returned an indictment of one count of soliciting prostitution.

July 2006: Referred to the FBI for investigation

Under pressure from Palm Beach police, who were unhappy with the state’s handling of its case against Epstein, the FBI launched its own investigation.
Here's all the gory details of what Epstein's legal team did to destroy the case at the local level & attempts to intimidate the State's Attorney & PB Police. The State's Attorneys caved, the police persisted. It also describes how Epstein's legal team attacked some of the victims in civil trials.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... 10674.html
Epstein's high priced legal team overran Acosta & his prosecutors, just as they had the locals.
Yup, the police fought the good fight, some of the victims fought hard, an attorney for the victims faced death threats, one dogged reporter wouldn't let it go.

The part I disagree with is the notion that the prosecutors, at all levels perhaps, simply didn't think they could win the case and were just intimidated by the money (but if they were, shame on them). Seems far more likely that heavyweights leaned on these folks, that it was made darn obvious that their careers would be destroyed and possibly worse. Big money and power, seductive. Some players may have been bought off, some scared by career threats made or implied.

The enablers, the curriers of favors, those who knew and looked the other way, those who participated...nail them. TimesUp.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:46 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:22 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:55 pm Here's another guys reason, the real PizzaGate

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148 ... 91968.html
A friend of mine mentioned to me two weeks ago that of all the PE firms and Hedge Fund shops he covers, he has never heard of Epsteins' and wonders where the money comes from.
Saw the beginnings of some reporting on this. His mentor at Bear Stearns did 20 years for what was then the largest Ponzi scheme in history (before Madoff). Mento claims Epstein stole his money. Other reporting is that in the '80's Epstein claimed he was helping people recover stolen money...smells like he was helping rich people hide their money from the tax man. Lucrative.
My friend told me that he has not met anyone that has ever met anyone from Epstein's firm and that he and another colleague have met with every significant PE firm or hedge fund that utilizes closed end vehicles and at his present firm, he and another MD have met with every VC firm in NYC. He has been wondering what's going for weeks. He mentioned two weeks ago that another shoe will drop. Time will tell.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:13 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:46 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:22 pm
foreverlax wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:55 pm Here's another guys reason, the real PizzaGate

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148 ... 91968.html
A friend of mine mentioned to me two weeks ago that of all the PE firms and Hedge Fund shops he covers, he has never heard of Epsteins' and wonders where the money comes from.
Saw the beginnings of some reporting on this. His mentor at Bear Stearns did 20 years for what was then the largest Ponzi scheme in history (before Madoff). Mento claims Epstein stole his money. Other reporting is that in the '80's Epstein claimed he was helping people recover stolen money...smells like he was helping rich people hide their money from the tax man. Lucrative.
My friend told me that he has not met anyone that has ever met anyone from Epstein's firm and that he and another colleague have met with every significant PE firm or hedge fund that utilizes closed end vehicles and at his present firm, he and another MD have met with every VC firm in NYC. He has been wondering what's going for weeks. He mentioned two weeks ago that another shoe will drop. Time will tell.
Scummy folks tend to be scummy in more than one aspect of their lives. Really feels like that will be the case with Epstein.
Money, sex, power...an intoxicating mix.

Some exceptions to that rule, ala the priests and school teachers etc who have otherwise exemplary lives of service to others, often beloved...but corruption breeds other corruption, those who looked the other way...
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Trump Escorts is a Trump related trademark registered in China and is the only one registered there. So not exactjy fake news.

On the other hand some digging reveals while registered it has never been used and is probably defensive to prevent someone else from registering it
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Interesting thread about Clinton, Trump and Epstein.

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/11483 ... 21792?s=21
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BTW DOJ has a 57 page indictment drawn up and ready to go. The stench from the plea deal is worse than you think. One item for example gives Epstein and his attorneys veto powerful over the attorneys who would represent the girls. There were more than 100 witnesses interviewed and dozens of victims. In another case there was one victim and Acosta prosecuted it harshly about the same times
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kramerica.inc wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:52 pm Interesting thread about Clinton, Trump and Epstein.

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/11483 ... 21792?s=21
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