With regards to No. 2 - the 'over-recruiting' debate - the Terps certainly have more recruits coming in the 2019 (Rising College Freshmen) and 2020 (Rising HS Seniors) classes than the Cavs.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:06 pmstupefied wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:32 pm Surprise!! Spoiler alert : D1 programs tend to be time consuming and sometimes physically demanding.
I tend to believe the gist of what Realguy is saying and surprised at the cynicism here because nothing seems outside the realm. Id assume any Seal training is closer to an introductory than advanced phase with intensity no greater than repeated wind sprints or hero training done by some for conditioning . Rowing boats near dawn to me is nothing more than a bonding experience that may be more enjoyable than early morning lifts.
Let's see, his original post contained these 6 beauties:
1. UMD lax is 'not about skill'
2. Tills 'over-recruits' (realguy must have a HUGE problem with Lars then!)
3. UMD has a ton of 'binge drinkers' because they don't see the field
4. Tills 'runs them into the ground like they are at USNA'
5. "Every conceivable rule is broken'
6. Dubick was made to feel 'insignificant' but he played anyway all because 'he was a legacy'
You believe the gist of this realguy? Seriously? You don't smell an agenda here? Tillman is more than a coach to the guys; he's an upstanding man, with a great family. God forbid he reads bs posts like that.
*Note: Rankings according to IL
2019:
Maryland [16]
No. 7 Nicholas DeMaio, A, Coronado (Calif.) / Brady’s Bunch
No. 9 Dylan Pallonetti, A, Ward Melville (N.Y.) / LI Express
No. 41 Justin Sherrer, LSM, Etowah (Ga.) / Thunder LB3
No. 43 Logan McNaney, G, Salisbury (Conn.) / SweetLax
No. 66 Conor Calderone, F/O, Smithtown West (N.Y.) / Laxachusetts
No. 69 Jack Brennan, A, Irondequoit (N.Y.) / SweetLax
No. 73 Kelan Duff, D, Culver (Ind.) / SweetLax
No. 78 Jack Sawyer, A/M, Calvert Hall (Md.) / FCA Maryland
No. 83 Dawson Wynne, M, Salisbury (Conn.) / SweetLax
Michael Mines, M, Torrey Pines (Calif.) / West Coast Starz
Ryan Siracusa, A, Centennial (Ga.) / Thunder LB3
Connor Whalen, LSM, Bishop Shanahan (Pa.) / Philly Freedom
Danny Maltz, A, Riverside (Va.) / SweetLax
Garrett Gibbons, M, Massapequa (N.Y.) / LI Outlaws
King Ripley, M, Hill Academy (Ont.) / Annapolis Hawks
Luke Wierman, F/O, Henderson (Pa.) / PA Roughriders
*Note: included DeMaio because he is a freshman this year by eligibility.
Virginia [8]
No. 1 Connor Shellenberger, A, St. Anne’s Belfield (Va.) / Madlax
No. 3 Scott Bower, D, Episcopal Dallas (Tex.) / Stick Star
No. 4 Gavin Tygh, F/O, Penn Charter (Pa.) / Big 4 HHH
No. 27 Quentin Matsui, LSM/D, Eden Prairie (Minn.) / Project Midwest
No. 30 Jake Giulieri, LSM/D, Georgetown Prep (Md.) / Blackwolf
No. 35 Peter Garno, M, Haverford (Pa.) / Mesa Fresh
No. 100 Drew Brennfleck, M, Mountain Lakes (N.J.) / STEPS
Daniel Parker, M, St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) / LI Express
2020
Maryland [10]
No. 4 Eric Malever, A, Woodward Academy (Ga.) / Thunder LB3
No. 10 Jack Schirtzer, LSM/D, Mount Sinai (N.Y.) / Team 91
No. 14 Jack Koras, A/M, Loyola Blakefield (Md.) / FCA Maryland
No. 18 Gabe Goforth, M, Bishop Shanahan (Pa.) / Philly Freedom
No. 45 Jackson Marshall, G, Calvert Hall (Md.) / FCA Maryland
No. 57 Alex Wicks, M, St. Mary’s (Md.) / Annapolis Hawks
No. 59 Payton Giberson, F/O, Oakdale (Md.) / Looney’s
No. 60 Michael O’Connell, M, Chaminade (N.Y.) / LI Express
No. 98 Ajax Zappitello, D, Sunset (Ore.) / Legends West
Nicholas Redd, LSM/D, Wilmington Friends (Del.) / Nation United
Virginia [8]
No. 8 Patrick McIntosh, A, Salisbury (Conn.) / SweetLax
No. 15 Russell Maher, A, Mount Sinai (N.Y.) / LI Express
No. 38 Jack Walshe, M, St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) / LI Express
No. 43 Michael Prestipino, D, Conestoga (Pa.) / Rising Sons
No. 44 Jake Naso, F/O, St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) / LI Legacy
No. 55 Connell Kumar, M, Seton Hall Prep (N.J.) / Leading Edge
No. 56 Ben Wayer, LSM, St. Stephen’s & St. Agnes (Va.) / Blackwolf
Mikie Harmeyer, A, Severna Park (Md.) / FCA Maryland
Only 16 recruits for Lars compared to 26 for Tills over the next 2 years. Seems like Lars is trying to move away from the MD/Hop/Cuse model of brining in as many guys as you can and finding your top guys from there. No doubt Tills gets both quantity and quality (not sure the same can be said about JHU and Cuse at this point), but seems like Lars is moving towards being more selective with smaller classes similar to Coach Dino in Durham.
I expect Tiffany to fill out those classes with a few in-state walk ons like Jack Peele - a sophomore middle from McLean, Va (#49) who contributed for the national champs on the 2nd line - but regardless, the Cavs staff seems to being going for less quantity in their recruiting classes than the MD staff at this point. It'll be interesting to follow how many guys these teams add to their 2020 classes over the next year.