Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

[foreverlax]

All these jokers care about is money and jobs:

Our take:“Imposing tariffs on goods from Mexico is exactly the wrong move. These tariffs will be paid by American families and businesses without doing a thing to solve the very real problems at the border. Instead, Congress and the president need to work together to address the serious problems at the border.” – Neil Bradley, U.S. Chamber Executive Vice President and Chief Policy Officer

https://www.uschamber.com/series/above- ... 13628888=1

"But lettuce will be more expensive, we can't have that! we NEED illegals to get paid $30 for a 10 hour day.", says the person that just spent $14 for ONE beer at the n$aa's.

You do understand supply and demand.....why should we care, they ain't American.

[runrussellrun]

All these jokers care about is money and jobs:

Our take:“Imposing tariffs on goods from Mexico is exactly the wrong move. These tariffs will be paid by American families and businesses without doing a thing to solve the very real problems at the border. Instead, Congress and the president need to work together to address the serious problems at the border.” – Neil Bradley, U.S. Chamber Executive Vice President and Chief Policy Officer

https://www.uschamber.com/series/above- ... 13628888=1

"But lettuce will be more expensive, we can't have that! we NEED illegals to get paid $30 for a 10 hour day.", says the person that just spent $14 for ONE beer at the n$aa's.

You do understand supply and demand.....why should we care, they ain't American.

What's your point?

[Brooklyn]

For dim witted Bush, cutting taxes was the ideal solution to every problem imaginable. For Trump, imposing tariffs is his ideal fool proof solution. It's just the Republican political state of mindlessness.

[OCanada]

Economic illiteracy is running rampant. one problem is ideologues who want their economic ideas theories divorces from the reality of the data. Like for example the tax cut was something other than a gift of wealth to the wealthy (congressional research) or that tax cuts pay for themselves or that rather than add billions to the economy they are a net cost ( recent study barred from release by the WH because it failed to support the narrative. The growth of alternate factors to create an alternative reality, Virtually every time the adjective wrong or false was used was basically wrong and false.

[jhu72]

1) Trump is doing less to crackdown on employers hiring illegals than either Obama (who holds the annual record) or Bush 2 (who held the annual record until Obama came along.
2) Making the effort to crackdown on employers however does not result in many incarcerated employers. The penalties are pretty light and generally do not include incarceration. It would appear that just enforcing the existing laws is not enough.

Last year Trump's crackdown on employers yielded half as many as Bush 2 in his best year.

PS - Trump is already backtracking on his increased Mexican tariff threat. Just trying to move the news cycle.

[jhu72]

You can only laugh.

[jhu72]

I guess the Iran crises has kept what's going on in the detention centers in regards to horrible conditions for children on page two. Looks like this is going to be a bigger story. A Trump administration commissioner has resigned in the past hour. If what some in the press are claiming turns out to be true, this will be a much bigger story and I would expect more people to quit and ultimately some low level people might even face criminal charges. Hard to believe American's are responsible for this treatment of children.

MAGA

[Typical Lax Dad]

I guess the Iran crises has kept what's going on in the detention centers in regards to horrible conditions for children on page two. Looks like this is going to be a bigger story. A Trump administration commissioner has resigned in the past hour. If what some in the press are claiming turns out to be true, this will be a much bigger story and I would expect more people to quit and ultimately some low level people might even face criminal charges. Hard to believe American's are responsible for this treatment of children.

MAGA

They look and talk funny so they are somehow less human.

[cradleandshoot]

I guess the Iran crises has kept what's going on in the detention centers in regards to horrible conditions for children on page two. Looks like this is going to be a bigger story. A Trump administration commissioner has resigned in the past hour. If what some in the press are claiming turns out to be true, this will be a much bigger story and I would expect more people to quit and ultimately some low level people might even face criminal charges. Hard to believe American's are responsible for this treatment of children.

MAGA

Here is a truly radical idea 72. Take some time off from your bidness... I'm sure you need a vacation. Head down to the southern border and donate your time and effort to help where you can. You might even pull out that checkbook and blow the dust and cobwebs off and pitch in some doe to help. There could be complications. You might get dirt under your fingernails and worst case scenario... maybe even a blister or 2. Short of that you can post here about the failure of Congress to give the people at the border the resources... both money and people and supplies that are so badly needed. The border patrol agents are law enforcement. They are not trained to run daycare centers. The problem is an embarrassment. Nobody at the border was prepared or trained on how to handle an influx of people like this at the border. Congress could fix it in minutes... if they wanted to.

[jhu72]

I guess the Iran crises has kept what's going on in the detention centers in regards to horrible conditions for children on page two. Looks like this is going to be a bigger story. A Trump administration commissioner has resigned in the past hour. If what some in the press are claiming turns out to be true, this will be a much bigger story and I would expect more people to quit and ultimately some low level people might even face criminal charges. Hard to believe American's are responsible for this treatment of children.

MAGA

Here is a truly radical idea 72. Take some time off from your bidness... I'm sure you need a vacation. Head down to the southern border and donate your time and effort to help where you can. You might even pull out that checkbook and blow the dust and cobwebs off and pitch in some doe to help. There could be complications. You might get dirt under your fingernails and worst case scenario... maybe even a blister or 2. Short of that you can post here about the failure of Congress to give the people at the border the resources... both money and people and supplies that are so badly needed. The border patrol agents are law enforcement. They are not trained to run daycare centers. The problem is an embarrassment. Nobody at the border was prepared or trained on how to handle an influx of people like this at the border. Congress could fix it in minutes... if they wanted to.

I got a better idea. How bout you get the beans from between your ears. These kids are being put into a situation by an administration who wants to punish brown people, even if they are children. What makes you think any volunteer will be allowed into these sites? They are currently keeping Congressman, Senators, the press and lawyers out. They don't want witnesses. Insiders are rating them out and a couple lawyers have managed to get inside one of the facilities. The government has plenty of money for the supplies that are needed, money is not the problem. They could use more people, but as it stands to this point they aren't letting volunteers in the facilities. Volunteers aren't the answer -- hire the people you need. Not all of these are run by the government, at least one is for profit abuse of children.

[old salt]

Imagine the outrage if an overwhelmed CBP releases a kid into the custody of a bogus purported relative & the kid ends up being trafficked.

These "family units" show up with little or no documentation of their identity or relation to the "rent a kid" they have in tow.
They have to be held & processed in these remote under-equipped outposts, before they can be transferred to overflowing detention centers.
Our absurd laws & legal rulings re. asylum & detention have attracted a human tsunami which has overwhelmed our existing DHS & HHS facilities.
We can't even use our active military or National Guard to erect refugee centers to house & detain them (as we would in Haiti or Sudan),
without comparing them to Japanese internment or concentration camps.

It's impossible to lawfully process this volume, even with immediate "catch & release".

[Typical Lax Dad]

I guess the Iran crises has kept what's going on in the detention centers in regards to horrible conditions for children on page two. Looks like this is going to be a bigger story. A Trump administration commissioner has resigned in the past hour. If what some in the press are claiming turns out to be true, this will be a much bigger story and I would expect more people to quit and ultimately some low level people might even face criminal charges. Hard to believe American's are responsible for this treatment of children.

MAGA

Here is a truly radical idea 72. Take some time off from your bidness... I'm sure you need a vacation. Head down to the southern border and donate your time and effort to help where you can. You might even pull out that checkbook and blow the dust and cobwebs off and pitch in some doe to help. There could be complications. You might get dirt under your fingernails and worst case scenario... maybe even a blister or 2. Short of that you can post here about the failure of Congress to give the people at the border the resources... both money and people and supplies that are so badly needed. The border patrol agents are law enforcement. They are not trained to run daycare centers. The problem is an embarrassment. Nobody at the border was prepared or trained on how to handle an influx of people like this at the border. Congress could fix it in minutes... if they wanted to.

They don’t want the people there. Basically treated like a dog kennel.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Imagine the outrage if an overwhelmed CBP releases a kid into the custody of a bogus purported relative & the kid ends up being trafficked.

These "family units" show up with little or no documentation of their identity or relation to the "rent a kid" they have in tow.
They have to be held & processed in these remote under-equipped outposts, before they can be transferred to overflowing detention centers.
Our absurd laws & legal rulings re. asylum & detention have attracted a human tsunami which has overwhelmed our existing DHS & HHS facilities.
We can't even use our active military or National Guard to erect refugee centers to house & detain them (as we would in Haiti or Sudan),
without comparing them to Japanese internment or concentration camps.

It's impossible to lawfully process this volume, even with immediate "catch & release".

There are basically like fish.

[old salt]

Acting CBP Director resigns.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... s-n1021541

...Sanders, like McAleenan, has been pleading with Congress to pass a $4.5 billion supplemental funding request to expand detention space, blaming the poor conditions for children on a backlog.

Sanders was also under pressure from the White House to crack down on the rising numbers of migrants crossing the border. In May, over 140,000 undocumented immigrants crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, marking a 13-year monthly high.

Responding to public pressure, CBP moved roughly 300 migrant children out of poor conditions in a border patrol station in Clint, Texas to a tent detention camp in the El Paso area on Monday. Roughly 30 remained at the Clint facility. CBP then transported a group of about 100 migrant children to the Clint site on Tuesday because other facilities were stretched past capacity, according to a Border Patrol official.

[a fan]

Imagine the outrage if an overwhelmed CBP releases a kid into the custody of a bogus purported relative & the kid ends up being trafficked.

These "family units" show up with little or no documentation of their identity or relation to the "rent a kid" they have in tow.
They have to be held & processed in these remote under-equipped outposts, before they can be transferred to overflowing detention centers.
Our absurd laws & legal rulings re. asylum & detention have attracted a human tsunami which has overwhelmed our existing DHS & HHS facilities.
We can't even use our active military or National Guard to erect refugee centers to house & detain them (as we would in Haiti or Sudan),
without comparing them to Japanese internment or concentration camps.

It's impossible to lawfully process this volume, even with immediate "catch & release".

Yep. We've been hearing this for 50 years. Congress has done nothing. Dems point at the R's to get reelected, and the R's point and the D's. And their supporters do the same. And nothing gets done. And compromise is evil.

It all comes down to partisanship. Partisans reward their leaders for not doing anything. So that's EXACTLY what they do. Congress is doing what we tell them to do.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Acting CBP Director resigns.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... s-n1021541

...Sanders, like McAleenan, has been pleading with Congress to pass a $4.5 billion supplemental funding request to expand detention space, blaming the poor conditions for children on a backlog.

Sanders was also under pressure from the White House to crack down on the rising numbers of migrants crossing the border. In May, over 140,000 undocumented immigrants crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, marking a 13-year monthly high.

Responding to public pressure, CBP moved roughly 300 migrant children out of poor conditions in a border patrol station in Clint, Texas to a tent detention camp in the El Paso area on Monday. Roughly 30 remained at the Clint facility. CBP then transported a group of about 100 migrant children to the Clint site on Tuesday because other facilities were stretched past capacity, according to a Border Patrol official.

I thought your guy Trump was going to put an end to it?

[old salt]

Acting CBP Director resigns.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... s-n1021541

...Sanders, like McAleenan, has been pleading with Congress to pass a $4.5 billion supplemental funding request to expand detention space, blaming the poor conditions for children on a backlog.

Sanders was also under pressure from the White House to crack down on the rising numbers of migrants crossing the border. In May, over 140,000 undocumented immigrants crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, marking a 13-year monthly high.

Responding to public pressure, CBP moved roughly 300 migrant children out of poor conditions in a border patrol station in Clint, Texas to a tent detention camp in the El Paso area on Monday. Roughly 30 remained at the Clint facility. CBP then transported a group of about 100 migrant children to the Clint site on Tuesday because other facilities were stretched past capacity, according to a Border Patrol official.

I thought your guy Trump was going to put an end to it?

He did. It's all a fake crisis he generated. Remember the fake caravans we read about here.

[old salt]

Imagine the outrage if an overwhelmed CBP releases a kid into the custody of a bogus purported relative & the kid ends up being trafficked.

These "family units" show up with little or no documentation of their identity or relation to the "rent a kid" they have in tow.
They have to be held & processed in these remote under-equipped outposts, before they can be transferred to overflowing detention centers.
Our absurd laws & legal rulings re. asylum & detention have attracted a human tsunami which has overwhelmed our existing DHS & HHS facilities.
We can't even use our active military or National Guard to erect refugee centers to house & detain them (as we would in Haiti or Sudan),
without comparing them to Japanese internment or concentration camps.

It's impossible to lawfully process this volume, even with immediate "catch & release".

Yep. We've been hearing this for 50 years. Congress has done nothing. Dems point at the R's to get reelected, and the R's point and the D's. And their supporters do the same. And nothing gets done. And compromise is evil.

It all comes down to partisanship. Partisans reward their leaders for not doing anything. So that's EXACTLY what they do. Congress is doing what we tell them to do.

We've never before seen this volume of unaccompanied minors or "family units" which (by law) can't be separated.
Yet we also have to verify their identities & family relation & legal guardianship of the minor, check their health & criminal record,
then find a place &/or sponsor to send them, find a way to get them there, & schedule their adjudication.
This is being overtsimplified. It's a lot more involved than holding male Mexicans until they can be deported with minimal delay.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Acting CBP Director resigns.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... s-n1021541

...Sanders, like McAleenan, has been pleading with Congress to pass a $4.5 billion supplemental funding request to expand detention space, blaming the poor conditions for children on a backlog.

Sanders was also under pressure from the White House to crack down on the rising numbers of migrants crossing the border. In May, over 140,000 undocumented immigrants crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, marking a 13-year monthly high.

Responding to public pressure, CBP moved roughly 300 migrant children out of poor conditions in a border patrol station in Clint, Texas to a tent detention camp in the El Paso area on Monday. Roughly 30 remained at the Clint facility. CBP then transported a group of about 100 migrant children to the Clint site on Tuesday because other facilities were stretched past capacity, according to a Border Patrol official.

I thought your guy Trump was going to put an end to it?

He did. It's all a fake crisis he generated. Remember the fake caravans we read about here.

Thanks Sarah!!

[old salt]

Acting CBP Director resigns.

u
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... s-n1021541

...Sanders, like McAleenan, has been pleading with Congress to pass a $4.5 billion supplemental funding request to expand detention space, blaming the poor conditions for children on a backlog.

Sanders was also under pressure from the White House to crack down on the rising numbers of migrants crossing the border. In May, over 140,000 undocumented immigrants crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, marking a 13-year monthly high.

Responding to public pressure, CBP moved roughly 300 migrant children out of poor conditions in a border patrol station in Clint, Texas to a tent detention camp in the El Paso area on Monday. Roughly 30 remained at the Clint facility. CBP then transported a group of about 100 migrant children to the Clint site on Tuesday because other facilities were stretched past capacity, according to a Border Patrol official.

I thought your guy Trump was going to put an end to it?

He did. It's all a fake crisis he generated. Remember the fake caravans we read about here.

Thanks Sarah!!

You're welcome Rachel.

I've been wondering all this time as well.

First, most of these folks are allegedly from impoverished Native American villages with many people who do not call themselves Hispanic. In fact, a great many Central American tribes do not speak Spanish to this day. So how did these disparate people who are not able to communicated in Meso-American languages get suddenly organized so well? Who crossed three borders to get these folks together from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras? Who financed and planned out the long trek? Were the maps drawn in English? in Spanish? in Meso-American (which one specifically)???

One guy in the caravan who was interviewed on TV spoke perfect Spanish - the type spoken by college educated types without a trace of a rural accent. Another spoke in perfect English with only the slightest accent. So how do two well educated people who are obviously from an urban, college educated background fit into this caravan? What makes then impoverished rural types seeking work when all they need do is to buy an airline ticket and to send a resumé? What actually inspired them to join a caravan and march just before the elections so that Trump could make an issue of it?

All this is just too fishy and too convenient. I suspect that someone or some group associated with the anti-immigrant right wing arranged this superbly well organized march at this very convenient moment. The news has inspired some folks in this area to join up with Trump and to vote for his party. No surprise that it happened and no doubt that this is happening all over the USA. I bet it was all planned that way from the beginning.

Could be arranged like some of the anti American protests in Iran. Made for TV.