cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:57 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:43 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:05 pm
And shocker, after whining about Twitter bias for years when RightWIngAmerica thought it was run by "the other side"...
.....our new "Town Square Twitter" run by Musk.......and Musk shows up at a Trump rally, and no one bothers to show up here to complain.
Now how hard would FoxNation have been freaking out if the past twitter CEO showed up to stump for Biden?
They'd FLIP OUT.
But when Musk shows up for Trump. They don't even notice. They "forget" how important fairness is to them.
Who here remembers when Republicans here laughed at us, and told us Trumpism was a flash in the pan, and that this way of thinking would go away in a matter of months, and the R party would return to normal.
Yeah, that was coming up on a decade ago. And Trumpism is getting worse by the day.
But sure, you guys are Sooper Serious about Free Speech and bias on Twitter.
Not picking a fight here.....I think your comparison is a false equivalency.
~ It was clear to many, and further proven recently. that Dorsey was following intel from the Feds, just as was Zuckerberg and Google. Can that claim be made against Musk, that he is beholden to Fed persuasion? Seems quite the opposite......the new talking point by the Feds and Pols, is that Musk and Social media is far more dangerous, now that they were exposed and lost some control.
I get where you are coming from, though....it's his business he can do what he wants, Again, he is 'currently' not being seen as someone being strong-armed by the Feds.
That is, unless you want to be fitted for a tinfoil hat, and say its all a game and we are ALL just pawns in it.
Of course it doesn’t matter that the Feds never strong armed the social media companies. Right? Doesn’t matter, right?
Truth and facts don’t matter, just what people are told to ‘see’.
However you are correct about “intel” alerting them that Russian government sponsored groups were actively disseminating false information. Likewise, they let them know about the facts known and not known during a massive health crisis.
Oh the horror.
But we have a CEO who is not simply investing in personnel seeking to flag harmful, false information and those nefariously promoting such false information, but rather now a CEO who has not only dismantled efforts to flag falsehoods, but more, he himself is using his own massive following to promote scurrilous information repeatedly…and moreover he is actively financing and publicly supporting the campaign of the candidate who most epitomizes falsehoods as his campaign strategy.
Hate speech has dramatically increased on his platform as a result.
You are correct that it is not ‘equivalent’.
And a fan is right that it is a private company…with government provided protection from liability for damages they do.
Because you clearly don't know...hate speech as defined by you is still protected by the 1st amendment. Just like burning the American flag is protected free speech. A lifelong conservative Republican?????? would already know that. You should be DEFENDING free speech not attacking it...
Only one more nail in your coffin of your never ending lie claiming to be a conservative Republican of the lifelong variety.
All sorts of “speech “ is constrained, either legally, as in slander, or ethically in norms.
The sorts of conservatives I grew up with were neither untruthful nor hurtful on purpose. There’s no monopoly held by liberals on empathy. And likewise one can find conservatives and liberals alike who view extreme rhetoric necessary, uncaring whether others are hurt or offended.
Of course free speech is an enormously important principle, the limits placed on government interference with especially political speech are crucial. Conservatives and liberals alike would defend that principle. As would I.
And yet, historically in America the impulse to censor has mostly been, though not exclusively, based on ‘conservative’ direction. You may recall for instance that flag burning was particularly opposed by conservatives. So, too, kneeling for the anthem. Pornography.
Of course, we can point to examples of ‘left’ countries and systems with heavy censorship, but this is in authoritarian regimes, which come in both left or right flavors.
Not sure you want to lecture or harangue me on such topics, given your disengagement from taking responsibility to participate in our representative democracy.
