Orange Duce
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Trump is in no position at this time to do a damn thing to help anyone. He isn't the POTUS the last time I checked. That guy's name is Kamala Harris. What is going on in North Carolina is the residents understanding they will likely die before the federal government gets off its collective fat, stupid ass. What is happening now is neighbors helping neighbors and even strangers stepping in to help other people. That is what Americans do.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:52 pm North Carolina post hurricane
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi ... rcna173639
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Well that was a steaming pile. Trying to cover up Trump and the Lt Gov? No where dies it say Trump is president. That is just you trying to distract. What id true is Trump withheld aid or enhanced aid depending on which party was involved. What it makes clear is Trump is a lying SOB on the NC stormcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:19 pmTrump is in no position at this time to do a damn thing to help anyone. He isn't the POTUS the last time I checked. That guy's name is Kamala Harris. What is going on in North Carolina is the residents understanding they will likely die before the federal government gets off its collective fat, stupid ass. What is happening now is neighbors helping neighbors and even strangers stepping in to help other people. That is what Americans do.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:52 pm North Carolina post hurricane
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi ... rcna173639
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From the Article:cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:19 pmTrump is in no position at this time to do a damn thing to help anyone. He isn't the POTUS the last time I checked. That guy's name is Kamala Harris. What is going on in North Carolina is the residents understanding they will likely die before the federal government gets off its collective fat, stupid ass. What is happening now is neighbors helping neighbors and even strangers stepping in to help other people. That is what Americans do.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:52 pm North Carolina post hurricane
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi ... rcna173639
Federal aid has been coming in since Saturday, a day after the storm, when President Biden responded to Gov. Roy Cooper’s request and issued a disaster declaration, an important procedural step in hastening federal aid. Biden visited North Carolina Wednesday, and Cooper said he’d spoken with the president about using military assets at nearby Camp Lejeune and Fort Liberty to help out.
Biden’s head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Deanne Criswell, has been on the ground since Monday and says FEMA plans to stay as long as they’re needed. More than 57,000 people in North Carolina had requested federal aid from her agency by Tuesday, and some have already received it.
But yeah, Americans helping Americans. Neighbors helping, strangers helping, private orgs helping, local government helping, state government helping, Federal government helping.
That's what we do after disasters. We help each other. We don't turn it into a stump speech, especially when the idiot has withheld aid from Americans affected by various disasters in the past.
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In what world is Trump deserving of your deflection on this topic?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:19 pmTrump is in no position at this time to do a damn thing to help anyone. He isn't the POTUS the last time I checked. That guy's name is Kamala Harris. What is going on in North Carolina is the residents understanding they will likely die before the federal government gets off its collective fat, stupid ass. What is happening now is neighbors helping neighbors and even strangers stepping in to help other people. That is what Americans do.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:52 pm North Carolina post hurricane
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi ... rcna173639
Why make what is obviously an uninformed or dishonest statement, echoing this a-hole?
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"Collective fat stupid ass" about describes the usual suspect here at it again. 'MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:01 pmIn what world is Trump deserving of your deflection on this topic?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:19 pmTrump is in no position at this time to do a damn thing to help anyone. He isn't the POTUS the last time I checked. That guy's name is Kamala Harris. What is going on in North Carolina is the residents understanding they will likely die before the federal government gets off its collective fat, stupid ass. What is happening now is neighbors helping neighbors and even strangers stepping in to help other people. That is what Americans do.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:52 pm North Carolina post hurricane
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi ... rcna173639
Why make what is obviously an uninformed or dishonest statement, echoing this a-hole?
Come to think of it that also is a fine description of Orange Cheato.
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FEMA is doing the best that they can. Nobody should blame them for being temporarily overwhelmed at the extent of all of the damage. They have to prioritize their assets to where they are needed the most. There is much to be done and it will take a long time to get back to normal. My good friend lives in Aiken SC. He received an E mail from his utility provider that it could be a month or longer until they get power back. The electric grid where they live was wiped out over a large area. They will need to beg, borrow and steal new transformers and related equipment. It will take a long time and some folks may never recover from all that they lostNattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:07 pmFrom the Article:cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:19 pmTrump is in no position at this time to do a damn thing to help anyone. He isn't the POTUS the last time I checked. That guy's name is Kamala Harris. What is going on in North Carolina is the residents understanding they will likely die before the federal government gets off its collective fat, stupid ass. What is happening now is neighbors helping neighbors and even strangers stepping in to help other people. That is what Americans do.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:52 pm North Carolina post hurricane
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi ... rcna173639
Federal aid has been coming in since Saturday, a day after the storm, when President Biden responded to Gov. Roy Cooper’s request and issued a disaster declaration, an important procedural step in hastening federal aid. Biden visited North Carolina Wednesday, and Cooper said he’d spoken with the president about using military assets at nearby Camp Lejeune and Fort Liberty to help out.
Biden’s head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Deanne Criswell, has been on the ground since Monday and says FEMA plans to stay as long as they’re needed. More than 57,000 people in North Carolina had requested federal aid from her agency by Tuesday, and some have already received it.
But yeah, Americans helping Americans. Neighbors helping, strangers helping, private orgs helping, local government helping, state government helping, Federal government helping.
That's what we do after disasters. We help each other. We don't turn it into a stump speech, especially when the idiot has withheld aid from Americans affected by various disasters in the past.
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So, you were off your rocker for a heartbeat in your prior comment about the federal government?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:47 amFEMA is doing the best that they can. Nobody should blame them for being temporarily overwhelmed at the extent of all of the damage. They have to prioritize their assets to where they are needed the most. There is much to be done and it will take a long time to get back to normal. My good friend lives in Aiken SC. He received an E mail from his utility provider that it could be a month or longer until they get power back. The electric grid where they live was wiped out over a large area. They will need to beg, borrow and steal new transformers and related equipment. It will take a long time and some folks may never recover from all that they lostNattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:07 pmFrom the Article:cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:19 pmTrump is in no position at this time to do a damn thing to help anyone. He isn't the POTUS the last time I checked. That guy's name is Kamala Harris. What is going on in North Carolina is the residents understanding they will likely die before the federal government gets off its collective fat, stupid ass. What is happening now is neighbors helping neighbors and even strangers stepping in to help other people. That is what Americans do.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:52 pm North Carolina post hurricane
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi ... rcna173639
Federal aid has been coming in since Saturday, a day after the storm, when President Biden responded to Gov. Roy Cooper’s request and issued a disaster declaration, an important procedural step in hastening federal aid. Biden visited North Carolina Wednesday, and Cooper said he’d spoken with the president about using military assets at nearby Camp Lejeune and Fort Liberty to help out.
Biden’s head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Deanne Criswell, has been on the ground since Monday and says FEMA plans to stay as long as they’re needed. More than 57,000 people in North Carolina had requested federal aid from her agency by Tuesday, and some have already received it.
But yeah, Americans helping Americans. Neighbors helping, strangers helping, private orgs helping, local government helping, state government helping, Federal government helping.
That's what we do after disasters. We help each other. We don't turn it into a stump speech, especially when the idiot has withheld aid from Americans affected by various disasters in the past.
Federal Aid was immediate and will keep coming. Nothing is being withheld or ignored, it is simply an enormous challenge. No partisan politics involved.
Trump was/is lying. Period.
Re: Orange Duce
Trump almost always lies. Repeating his BS furthers his lies. It is a given and a life long behaviorMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:55 amSo, you were off your rocker for a heartbeat in your prior comment about the federal government?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:47 amFEMA is doing the best that they can. Nobody should blame them for being temporarily overwhelmed at the extent of all of the damage. They have to prioritize their assets to where they are needed the most. There is much to be done and it will take a long time to get back to normal. My good friend lives in Aiken SC. He received an E mail from his utility provider that it could be a month or longer until they get power back. The electric grid where they live was wiped out over a large area. They will need to beg, borrow and steal new transformers and related equipment. It will take a long time and some folks may never recover from all that they lostNattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:07 pmFrom the Article:cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:19 pmTrump is in no position at this time to do a damn thing to help anyone. He isn't the POTUS the last time I checked. That guy's name is Kamala Harris. What is going on in North Carolina is the residents understanding they will likely die before the federal government gets off its collective fat, stupid ass. What is happening now is neighbors helping neighbors and even strangers stepping in to help other people. That is what Americans do.OCanada wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:52 pm North Carolina post hurricane
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi ... rcna173639
Federal aid has been coming in since Saturday, a day after the storm, when President Biden responded to Gov. Roy Cooper’s request and issued a disaster declaration, an important procedural step in hastening federal aid. Biden visited North Carolina Wednesday, and Cooper said he’d spoken with the president about using military assets at nearby Camp Lejeune and Fort Liberty to help out.
Biden’s head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Deanne Criswell, has been on the ground since Monday and says FEMA plans to stay as long as they’re needed. More than 57,000 people in North Carolina had requested federal aid from her agency by Tuesday, and some have already received it.
But yeah, Americans helping Americans. Neighbors helping, strangers helping, private orgs helping, local government helping, state government helping, Federal government helping.
That's what we do after disasters. We help each other. We don't turn it into a stump speech, especially when the idiot has withheld aid from Americans affected by various disasters in the past.
Federal Aid was immediate and will keep coming. Nothing is being withheld or ignored, it is simply an enormous challenge. No partisan politics involved.
Trump was/is lying. Period.
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Re: Orange Duce
Actual Trump quote:
"That's what's happening. They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a Bank. So they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season."
"That's what's happening. They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a Bank. So they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season."
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Mayorkas --> https://x.com/gregg_re/status/1842009544379007476NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am Actual Trump quote:
"That's what's happening. They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a Bank. So they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season."
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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Re: Orange Duce
Of course, at that time he had no idea as to the scale and frequency of actual hurricane damage - just the last one (Helene) could have changed the calculations.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:11 amMayorkas --> https://x.com/gregg_re/status/1842009544379007476NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am Actual Trump quote:
"That's what's happening. They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a Bank. So they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season."
Why would he lie about it? FEMA can be audited any time.
MTG says that Dems/Feds/Jews can control the weather to influence the election.too. Do you buy that?
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You do realize that he’s saying that this massive storm damage (second worst in US history) is being met (Trump is lying) they need more resources to meet more storms of this scale should they occur. Or numerous storms.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:11 amMayorkas --> https://x.com/gregg_re/status/1842009544379007476NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am Actual Trump quote:
"That's what's happening. They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a Bank. So they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season."
This occurs with special funding requests whenever disasters are far outside the regular pace.
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Did you listen to the final worlds of the clip? Did FEMA blow a ton of cash on Immigration?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:22 amYou do realize that he’s saying that this massive storm damage (second worst in US history) is being met (Trump is lying) they need more resources to meet more storms of this scale should they occur. Or numerous storms.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:11 amMayorkas --> https://x.com/gregg_re/status/1842009544379007476NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am Actual Trump quote:
"That's what's happening. They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a Bank. So they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season."
This occurs with special funding requests whenever disasters are far outside the regular pace.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
Re: Orange Duce
The latest grifter operation - $6 million in OK taxpayer money for Orange Cheato bibles in schools - as the specs the state mandated only qualify those books. Despicable
https://www.kgou.org/education/2024-10- ... llion-plan
https://www.kgou.org/education/2024-10- ... llion-plan
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Are they pulp paper? They’ll double as Federal Disaster aid.Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:51 am The latest grifter operation - $6 million in OK taxpayer money for Orange Cheato bibles in schools - as the specs the state mandated only qualify those books. Despicable
https://www.kgou.org/education/2024-10- ... llion-plan
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“Blow”???youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:26 amDid you listen to the final worlds of the clip? Did FEMA blow a ton of cash on Immigration?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:22 amYou do realize that he’s saying that this massive storm damage (second worst in US history) is being met (Trump is lying) they need more resources to meet more storms of this scale should they occur. Or numerous storms.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:11 amMayorkas --> https://x.com/gregg_re/status/1842009544379007476NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am Actual Trump quote:
"That's what's happening. They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a Bank. So they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season."
This occurs with special funding requests whenever disasters are far outside the regular pace.
No. Immigration issues need the funding that the Lankford bill would have allocated, but spending to support communities straining with immigration is an appropriate use of funds.
FEMA is Not allocating or spending less on natural disaster relief than normal. They are putting up a website to combat the disinformation being fomented by Trump and right wing media.
They need appropriations to be increased just as in any other unusual disaster cycle. The problem is that we are very likely to see “normal “ be considerably worse in the coming decades than prior, with bigger storms and fires.
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Didn't take long to fact check that one. Trump and the FOX sycophants will say anything to rile up the base:youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:26 amDid you listen to the final worlds of the clip? Did FEMA blow a ton of cash on Immigration?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:22 amYou do realize that he’s saying that this massive storm damage (second worst in US history) is being met (Trump is lying) they need more resources to meet more storms of this scale should they occur. Or numerous storms.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:11 amMayorkas --> https://x.com/gregg_re/status/1842009544379007476NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am Actual Trump quote:
"That's what's happening. They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a Bank. So they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season."
This occurs with special funding requests whenever disasters are far outside the regular pace.
"But the administration allocated less than a billion dollars last year to charities that provide housing for migrants released in the U.S. by immigration officials. The funding from the Federal Emergency Management Agency's Shelter and Service Program is approved by Congress and is separate from the agency's disaster relief."
If you have a beef take it up with Speaker Johnson.
https://www.wvtm13.com/article/trump-ma ... y/62509353
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I'm not understanding the argument here. What business should FEMA have with the immigration problem? The Emergency created at the southern border was not weather related. The southern border problem is a self inflicted wound created by our own government. Let FEMA take care of Americans first. The government can muddle and dither about trying to figure out the disaster it created. Maybe we can refer to it as Hurricane Joe for the sake of discussion?SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:23 amDidn't take long to fact check that one. Trump and the FOX sycophants will say anything to rile up the base:youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:26 amDid you listen to the final worlds of the clip? Did FEMA blow a ton of cash on Immigration?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:22 amYou do realize that he’s saying that this massive storm damage (second worst in US history) is being met (Trump is lying) they need more resources to meet more storms of this scale should they occur. Or numerous storms.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:11 amMayorkas --> https://x.com/gregg_re/status/1842009544379007476NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am Actual Trump quote:
"That's what's happening. They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a Bank. So they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season."
This occurs with special funding requests whenever disasters are far outside the regular pace.
"But the administration allocated less than a billion dollars last year to charities that provide housing for migrants released in the U.S. by immigration officials. The funding from the Federal Emergency Management Agency's Shelter and Service Program is approved by Congress and is separate from the agency's disaster relief."
If you have a beef take it up with Speaker Johnson.
https://www.wvtm13.com/article/trump-ma ... y/62509353
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That is the Argument, and line items should be transparent about where FEMA has spent their money thus far. If is large portion of that went to immigration, then the question is...why is FEMA using that money for things beyond Natural Disasters and local help. Mayorkas, dances around why they are running out of money, leaving us to argue about it.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:22 am“Blow”???youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:26 amDid you listen to the final worlds of the clip? Did FEMA blow a ton of cash on Immigration?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:22 amYou do realize that he’s saying that this massive storm damage (second worst in US history) is being met (Trump is lying) they need more resources to meet more storms of this scale should they occur. Or numerous storms.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:11 amMayorkas --> https://x.com/gregg_re/status/1842009544379007476NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am Actual Trump quote:
"That's what's happening. They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a Bank. So they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them this season."
This occurs with special funding requests whenever disasters are far outside the regular pace.
No. Immigration issues need the funding that the Lankford bill would have allocated, but spending to support communities straining with immigration is an appropriate use of funds.
FEMA is Not allocating or spending less on natural disaster relief than normal. They are putting up a website to combat the disinformation being fomented by Trump and right wing media.
They need appropriations to be increased just as in any other unusual disaster cycle. The problem is that we are very likely to see “normal “ be considerably worse in the coming decades than prior, with bigger storms and fires.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard