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Re: 2024

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Trump has been a convulsive liar his entire career. Over 10,000x in the four yeats of his presidency. Vance last night was the mini me of Trump. Lied his butt off all night. Trump on Truth Social is writing what he thinks will motivate his base. Only fools or true believers think he is ever telling the truth
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Re: 2024

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:09 am
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:22 am
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:24 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:28 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:07 pm Trump in Wisconsin today: “I will shut down all entries through Kamala’s migrant phone app. She’s got a phone app. It’s meant for the cartel heads. The cartel heads call the app, and they tell them where to drop the illegal migrants… It’s not even believable.”

Can we not agree that he’s a sick, old depleted man who never had much brainpower to begin with?
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
Want to take a wild guess which administration launched this horrible, horrible APP, Youth?

(pssst....don't tell Trump that's his app, or tell him that migrants are using the app to find where dogs and cats live, so they can eat them. ;) )
Agreed. Its ‘original function’ was to assist in e-paperwork to relieve stress at the border entries, with only a few entries by those seeking entry. It then evolved into a mess sometime in early 2023, when things were ramping up from title 42. https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/
I'd take a listen to him rebutting the wild MAGA claims in other places other then in front of Congress where the R's can play games....and not make any assumptions as to how the app was used under Trump.

Because I can assure you, Trump has NO IDEA that is HIS App, not "Kamala's".... and isn't that cute that now that he's not running, nothing is Joe's fault anymore?

When Trump wins, we'll see how fast he passes bills to fix these problems. Or if he does like last time, and all but shuts down legal work VISA programs, making farming of hand-harvested goods next to impossible for no good reason.

This is Reagan-phones all over again.....Reagan starts the program, and Obama takes the blame.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/

The Biden administration published a new rule that requires migrants to seek asylum by making an appointment at a port of entry through an online app

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... bp-one-app

CBP One Expands
CBP One was not created for purposes of data collection. A Capability Roadmap for CBP One from October 2020 shows CBP’s plans for the app, which did not include plans to use the app for processing individuals at ports of entry.
However, a few months later, it was being used for just that.
On February 19, 2021, DHS published the first PIA for CBP One. The PIA included a description of how the app would be used to help process individuals enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).  
So, what?

Did you disagree with requiring asylum seekers to do so at a port of entry? Or is it just the app you are commenting on?

If the latter, do you imagine that Trump knows the app was developed and introduced during his Administration? Or is your point simply that the use of the app was expanded under the Biden Administration?

Do you think Trump is correct in all aspects of what he said? Read the full statement and accusation.
The bolded, IMO. They took advantage of the APP is a means to get paperwork filled out electronically, the when they arrived at the border, all they had to do was 'scan or validate' they used the APP and had the receipt (for lack of a better term), and they were sent on their way.

So in short, its both. Trump knew the APP was in play, it was very limited in its original intent. Then in early 2023, they essentially turned the APP into "ticket" you scan at the front gate to get into the concert.

Not sure why you asking this, you told us this type of stuff is your world. It is essentially an e-commerce APP for people, to walk in our country. It's like the APP has now replaced border agents and processing. Call in 'unintended consequences' from the inception of the APP, as it was modified to become 'Intentional results of admission".
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Re: 2024

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old salt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:22 am
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:24 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:28 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:07 pm Trump in Wisconsin today: “I will shut down all entries through Kamala’s migrant phone app. She’s got a phone app. It’s meant for the cartel heads. The cartel heads call the app, and they tell them where to drop the illegal migrants… It’s not even believable.”

Can we not agree that he’s a sick, old depleted man who never had much brainpower to begin with?
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
Want to take a wild guess which administration launched this horrible, horrible APP, Youth?

(pssst....don't tell Trump that's his app, or tell him that migrants are using the app to find where dogs and cats live, so they can eat them. ;) )
Agreed. Its ‘original function’ was to assist in e-paperwork to relieve stress at the border entries, with only a few entries by those seeking entry. It then evolved into a mess sometime in early 2023, when things were ramping up from title 42. https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/
I'd take a listen to him rebutting the wild MAGA claims in other places other then in front of Congress where the R's can play games....and not make any assumptions as to how the app was used under Trump.

Because I can assure you, Trump has NO IDEA that is HIS App, not "Kamala's".... and isn't that cute that now that he's not running, nothing is Joe's fault anymore?

When Trump wins, we'll see how fast he passes bills to fix these problems. Or if he does like last time, and all but shuts down legal work VISA programs, making farming of hand-harvested goods next to impossible for no good reason.

This is Reagan-phones all over again.....Reagan starts the program, and Obama takes the blame.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/

The Biden administration published a new rule that requires migrants to seek asylum by making an appointment at a port of entry through an online app

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... bp-one-app

CBP One Expands
CBP One was not created for purposes of data collection. A Capability Roadmap for CBP One from October 2020 shows CBP’s plans for the app, which did not include plans to use the app for processing individuals at ports of entry.
However, a few months later, it was being used for just that.
On February 19, 2021, DHS published the first PIA for CBP One. The PIA included a description of how the app would be used to help process individuals enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).  
That's swell, Old Salt. Didn't address one word from Trump's lying mouth. You've moved the goalposts, and ignore his lies, because that's what you do, and then pretend that you didn't ignore his lies.

-where's the part where this is "Kamala's app". Not Joe's of course...Kamala is now President.

-where's the part about the cartels using the app?

-where's the part about cartels telling illegal immigrants to go?

Oh, that's right, you didn't address that, accepted his lies, and then tell us you don't vote for him. Same as it ever was.

And "CBP One was not created for the purposes of data collection". :lol: Tell the class how the app works WITHOUT collecting data??? What do you and your buds think the word "data" means? Or is the problem you don't know what the word "collect" means?
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Re: 2024

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a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:38 am
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:22 am
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:24 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:28 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:07 pm Trump in Wisconsin today: “I will shut down all entries through Kamala’s migrant phone app. She’s got a phone app. It’s meant for the cartel heads. The cartel heads call the app, and they tell them where to drop the illegal migrants… It’s not even believable.”

Can we not agree that he’s a sick, old depleted man who never had much brainpower to begin with?
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
Want to take a wild guess which administration launched this horrible, horrible APP, Youth?

(pssst....don't tell Trump that's his app, or tell him that migrants are using the app to find where dogs and cats live, so they can eat them. ;) )
Agreed. Its ‘original function’ was to assist in e-paperwork to relieve stress at the border entries, with only a few entries by those seeking entry. It then evolved into a mess sometime in early 2023, when things were ramping up from title 42. https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/
I'd take a listen to him rebutting the wild MAGA claims in other places other then in front of Congress where the R's can play games....and not make any assumptions as to how the app was used under Trump.

Because I can assure you, Trump has NO IDEA that is HIS App, not "Kamala's".... and isn't that cute that now that he's not running, nothing is Joe's fault anymore?

When Trump wins, we'll see how fast he passes bills to fix these problems. Or if he does like last time, and all but shuts down legal work VISA programs, making farming of hand-harvested goods next to impossible for no good reason.

This is Reagan-phones all over again.....Reagan starts the program, and Obama takes the blame.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/

The Biden administration published a new rule that requires migrants to seek asylum by making an appointment at a port of entry through an online app

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... bp-one-app

CBP One Expands
CBP One was not created for purposes of data collection. A Capability Roadmap for CBP One from October 2020 shows CBP’s plans for the app, which did not include plans to use the app for processing individuals at ports of entry.
However, a few months later, it was being used for just that.
On February 19, 2021, DHS published the first PIA for CBP One. The PIA included a description of how the app would be used to help process individuals enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).  
That's swell, Old Salt. Didn't address one word from Trump's lying mouth. You've moved the goalposts, and ignore his lies, because that's what you do, and then pretend that you didn't ignore his lies.

-where's the part where this is "Kamala's app". Not Joe's of course...Kamala is now President.

-where's the part about the cartels using the app?

-where's the part about cartels telling illegal immigrants to go?

Oh, that's right, you didn't address that, accepted his lies, and then tell us you don't vote for him. Same as it ever was.

And "CBP One was not created for the purposes of data collection". :lol: Tell the class how the app works WITHOUT collecting data??? What do you and your buds think the word "data" means? Or is the problem you don't know what the word "collect" means?
This negative opinion of using technology to aid in immigration management brought to you by the same party who wants to hand count ballots. But also decides to NOT allow a vote on an immigration bill that would have provided for the addition of staffing to aid in the processing of immigrants.
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Re: 2024

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SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:06 am
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:38 am
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:22 am
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:24 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:28 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:07 pm Trump in Wisconsin today: “I will shut down all entries through Kamala’s migrant phone app. She’s got a phone app. It’s meant for the cartel heads. The cartel heads call the app, and they tell them where to drop the illegal migrants… It’s not even believable.”

Can we not agree that he’s a sick, old depleted man who never had much brainpower to begin with?
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
Want to take a wild guess which administration launched this horrible, horrible APP, Youth?

(pssst....don't tell Trump that's his app, or tell him that migrants are using the app to find where dogs and cats live, so they can eat them. ;) )
Agreed. Its ‘original function’ was to assist in e-paperwork to relieve stress at the border entries, with only a few entries by those seeking entry. It then evolved into a mess sometime in early 2023, when things were ramping up from title 42. https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/
I'd take a listen to him rebutting the wild MAGA claims in other places other then in front of Congress where the R's can play games....and not make any assumptions as to how the app was used under Trump.

Because I can assure you, Trump has NO IDEA that is HIS App, not "Kamala's".... and isn't that cute that now that he's not running, nothing is Joe's fault anymore?

When Trump wins, we'll see how fast he passes bills to fix these problems. Or if he does like last time, and all but shuts down legal work VISA programs, making farming of hand-harvested goods next to impossible for no good reason.

This is Reagan-phones all over again.....Reagan starts the program, and Obama takes the blame.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/

The Biden administration published a new rule that requires migrants to seek asylum by making an appointment at a port of entry through an online app

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... bp-one-app

CBP One Expands
CBP One was not created for purposes of data collection. A Capability Roadmap for CBP One from October 2020 shows CBP’s plans for the app, which did not include plans to use the app for processing individuals at ports of entry.
However, a few months later, it was being used for just that.
On February 19, 2021, DHS published the first PIA for CBP One. The PIA included a description of how the app would be used to help process individuals enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).  
That's swell, Old Salt. Didn't address one word from Trump's lying mouth. You've moved the goalposts, and ignore his lies, because that's what you do, and then pretend that you didn't ignore his lies.

-where's the part where this is "Kamala's app". Not Joe's of course...Kamala is now President.

-where's the part about the cartels using the app?

-where's the part about cartels telling illegal immigrants to go?

Oh, that's right, you didn't address that, accepted his lies, and then tell us you don't vote for him. Same as it ever was.

And "CBP One was not created for the purposes of data collection". :lol: Tell the class how the app works WITHOUT collecting data??? What do you and your buds think the word "data" means? Or is the problem you don't know what the word "collect" means?
This negative opinion of using technology to aid in immigration management brought to you by the same party who wants to hand count ballots. But also decides to NOT allow a vote on an immigration bill that would have provided for the addition of staffing to aid in the processing of immigrants.
:lol: You know this game works on these idiots. You're seeing it right here.

They think apps make it easier for the immigrants to eat cats and dogs. They do. not. care. that having the .gov have tech that's anywhere close to what real businesses enjoy every day to make their businesses more efficient is a GREAT THING.

It's all in how Trump and RIghtWingMedia sells it, and no matter how many times I explain this to the forum...they fall for it every time. RightWingMedia can spin the sun rising in the morning as a catastrophic event for Republican voters.....and these voters would hold meetings with the flat Earthers to put a stop to the sun. :roll:

Yeah guys, let's go back to the days of carbon paper and Ellis Island now that Trump told you tech is bad. There is no end to this stupidity.
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Re: 2024

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Why wasn't Mike Pence on the debate stage last night for the gop?
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Re: 2024

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a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:10 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:06 am
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:38 am
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:22 am
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:24 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:28 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:07 pm Trump in Wisconsin today: “I will shut down all entries through Kamala’s migrant phone app. She’s got a phone app. It’s meant for the cartel heads. The cartel heads call the app, and they tell them where to drop the illegal migrants… It’s not even believable.”

Can we not agree that he’s a sick, old depleted man who never had much brainpower to begin with?
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
Want to take a wild guess which administration launched this horrible, horrible APP, Youth?

(pssst....don't tell Trump that's his app, or tell him that migrants are using the app to find where dogs and cats live, so they can eat them. ;) )
Agreed. Its ‘original function’ was to assist in e-paperwork to relieve stress at the border entries, with only a few entries by those seeking entry. It then evolved into a mess sometime in early 2023, when things were ramping up from title 42. https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/
I'd take a listen to him rebutting the wild MAGA claims in other places other then in front of Congress where the R's can play games....and not make any assumptions as to how the app was used under Trump.

Because I can assure you, Trump has NO IDEA that is HIS App, not "Kamala's".... and isn't that cute that now that he's not running, nothing is Joe's fault anymore?

When Trump wins, we'll see how fast he passes bills to fix these problems. Or if he does like last time, and all but shuts down legal work VISA programs, making farming of hand-harvested goods next to impossible for no good reason.

This is Reagan-phones all over again.....Reagan starts the program, and Obama takes the blame.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/

The Biden administration published a new rule that requires migrants to seek asylum by making an appointment at a port of entry through an online app

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... bp-one-app

CBP One Expands
CBP One was not created for purposes of data collection. A Capability Roadmap for CBP One from October 2020 shows CBP’s plans for the app, which did not include plans to use the app for processing individuals at ports of entry.
However, a few months later, it was being used for just that.
On February 19, 2021, DHS published the first PIA for CBP One. The PIA included a description of how the app would be used to help process individuals enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).  
That's swell, Old Salt. Didn't address one word from Trump's lying mouth. You've moved the goalposts, and ignore his lies, because that's what you do, and then pretend that you didn't ignore his lies.

-where's the part where this is "Kamala's app". Not Joe's of course...Kamala is now President.

-where's the part about the cartels using the app?

-where's the part about cartels telling illegal immigrants to go?

Oh, that's right, you didn't address that, accepted his lies, and then tell us you don't vote for him. Same as it ever was.

And "CBP One was not created for the purposes of data collection". :lol: Tell the class how the app works WITHOUT collecting data??? What do you and your buds think the word "data" means? Or is the problem you don't know what the word "collect" means?
This negative opinion of using technology to aid in immigration management brought to you by the same party who wants to hand count ballots. But also decides to NOT allow a vote on an immigration bill that would have provided for the addition of staffing to aid in the processing of immigrants.
:lol: You know this game works on these idiots. You're seeing it right here.

They think apps make it easier for the immigrants to eat cats and dogs. They do. not. care. that having the .gov have tech that's anywhere close to what real businesses enjoy every day to make their businesses more efficient is a GREAT THING.

It's all in how Trump and RIghtWingMedia sells it, and no matter how many times I explain this to the forum...they fall for it every time. RightWingMedia can spin the sun rising in the morning as a catastrophic event for Republican voters.....and these voters would hold meetings with the flat Earthers to put a stop to the sun. :roll:

Yeah guys, let's go back to the days of carbon paper and Ellis Island now that Trump told you tech is bad. There is no end to this stupidity.
Old Salt, YA, C&S, Tech, Petey and people like them are all the same. They don’t support Trump but can’t bring themselves to critique him but give both barrels to dems and FLP that they also don’t support. They come across as disingenuous at best and liars at worst, in my opinion with all due respect.
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Re: 2024

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:15 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:10 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:06 am
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:38 am
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:22 am
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:24 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:28 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:07 pm Trump in Wisconsin today: “I will shut down all entries through Kamala’s migrant phone app. She’s got a phone app. It’s meant for the cartel heads. The cartel heads call the app, and they tell them where to drop the illegal migrants… It’s not even believable.”

Can we not agree that he’s a sick, old depleted man who never had much brainpower to begin with?
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
Want to take a wild guess which administration launched this horrible, horrible APP, Youth?

(pssst....don't tell Trump that's his app, or tell him that migrants are using the app to find where dogs and cats live, so they can eat them. ;) )
Agreed. Its ‘original function’ was to assist in e-paperwork to relieve stress at the border entries, with only a few entries by those seeking entry. It then evolved into a mess sometime in early 2023, when things were ramping up from title 42. https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/
I'd take a listen to him rebutting the wild MAGA claims in other places other then in front of Congress where the R's can play games....and not make any assumptions as to how the app was used under Trump.

Because I can assure you, Trump has NO IDEA that is HIS App, not "Kamala's".... and isn't that cute that now that he's not running, nothing is Joe's fault anymore?

When Trump wins, we'll see how fast he passes bills to fix these problems. Or if he does like last time, and all but shuts down legal work VISA programs, making farming of hand-harvested goods next to impossible for no good reason.

This is Reagan-phones all over again.....Reagan starts the program, and Obama takes the blame.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/

The Biden administration published a new rule that requires migrants to seek asylum by making an appointment at a port of entry through an online app

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... bp-one-app

CBP One Expands
CBP One was not created for purposes of data collection. A Capability Roadmap for CBP One from October 2020 shows CBP’s plans for the app, which did not include plans to use the app for processing individuals at ports of entry.
However, a few months later, it was being used for just that.
On February 19, 2021, DHS published the first PIA for CBP One. The PIA included a description of how the app would be used to help process individuals enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).  
That's swell, Old Salt. Didn't address one word from Trump's lying mouth. You've moved the goalposts, and ignore his lies, because that's what you do, and then pretend that you didn't ignore his lies.

-where's the part where this is "Kamala's app". Not Joe's of course...Kamala is now President.

-where's the part about the cartels using the app?

-where's the part about cartels telling illegal immigrants to go?

Oh, that's right, you didn't address that, accepted his lies, and then tell us you don't vote for him. Same as it ever was.

And "CBP One was not created for the purposes of data collection". :lol: Tell the class how the app works WITHOUT collecting data??? What do you and your buds think the word "data" means? Or is the problem you don't know what the word "collect" means?
This negative opinion of using technology to aid in immigration management brought to you by the same party who wants to hand count ballots. But also decides to NOT allow a vote on an immigration bill that would have provided for the addition of staffing to aid in the processing of immigrants.
:lol: You know this game works on these idiots. You're seeing it right here.

They think apps make it easier for the immigrants to eat cats and dogs. They do. not. care. that having the .gov have tech that's anywhere close to what real businesses enjoy every day to make their businesses more efficient is a GREAT THING.

It's all in how Trump and RIghtWingMedia sells it, and no matter how many times I explain this to the forum...they fall for it every time. RightWingMedia can spin the sun rising in the morning as a catastrophic event for Republican voters.....and these voters would hold meetings with the flat Earthers to put a stop to the sun. :roll:

Yeah guys, let's go back to the days of carbon paper and Ellis Island now that Trump told you tech is bad. There is no end to this stupidity.
Old Salt, YA, C&S, Tech, Petey and people like them are all the same. They don’t support Trump but can’t bring themselves to critique him but give both barrels to dems and FLP that they also don’t support. They come across as disingenuous at best and liars at worst, in my opinion with all due respect.
To be clear, when I say "these idiots"....I'm hoping the crew here doesn't believe in the cat and dog Trump nonsense, and I'm not talking about the posters above on that point. But I do believe they keep falling for the R spin where no matter what the Dems do, it's wrong.

The easy one is the Afghanistan pullout....where the riff was "he left too fast". And if Biden took a year plus to get out, and troops were hit, they'd be whining about that. It's just.....exhausting watch this game work on them over and over and over.

And if a R was in office? They be perfectly fine with the withdrawal, and lecture us on how it's a war zone, and people die in war zones.
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Re: 2024

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:15 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:10 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:06 am
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:38 am
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:22 am
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:24 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:28 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:07 pm Trump in Wisconsin today: “I will shut down all entries through Kamala’s migrant phone app. She’s got a phone app. It’s meant for the cartel heads. The cartel heads call the app, and they tell them where to drop the illegal migrants… It’s not even believable.”

Can we not agree that he’s a sick, old depleted man who never had much brainpower to begin with?
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
Want to take a wild guess which administration launched this horrible, horrible APP, Youth?

(pssst....don't tell Trump that's his app, or tell him that migrants are using the app to find where dogs and cats live, so they can eat them. ;) )
Agreed. Its ‘original function’ was to assist in e-paperwork to relieve stress at the border entries, with only a few entries by those seeking entry. It then evolved into a mess sometime in early 2023, when things were ramping up from title 42. https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/
I'd take a listen to him rebutting the wild MAGA claims in other places other then in front of Congress where the R's can play games....and not make any assumptions as to how the app was used under Trump.

Because I can assure you, Trump has NO IDEA that is HIS App, not "Kamala's".... and isn't that cute that now that he's not running, nothing is Joe's fault anymore?

When Trump wins, we'll see how fast he passes bills to fix these problems. Or if he does like last time, and all but shuts down legal work VISA programs, making farming of hand-harvested goods next to impossible for no good reason.

This is Reagan-phones all over again.....Reagan starts the program, and Obama takes the blame.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/

The Biden administration published a new rule that requires migrants to seek asylum by making an appointment at a port of entry through an online app

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... bp-one-app

CBP One Expands
CBP One was not created for purposes of data collection. A Capability Roadmap for CBP One from October 2020 shows CBP’s plans for the app, which did not include plans to use the app for processing individuals at ports of entry.
However, a few months later, it was being used for just that.
On February 19, 2021, DHS published the first PIA for CBP One. The PIA included a description of how the app would be used to help process individuals enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).  
That's swell, Old Salt. Didn't address one word from Trump's lying mouth. You've moved the goalposts, and ignore his lies, because that's what you do, and then pretend that you didn't ignore his lies.

-where's the part where this is "Kamala's app". Not Joe's of course...Kamala is now President.

-where's the part about the cartels using the app?

-where's the part about cartels telling illegal immigrants to go?

Oh, that's right, you didn't address that, accepted his lies, and then tell us you don't vote for him. Same as it ever was.

And "CBP One was not created for the purposes of data collection". :lol: Tell the class how the app works WITHOUT collecting data??? What do you and your buds think the word "data" means? Or is the problem you don't know what the word "collect" means?
This negative opinion of using technology to aid in immigration management brought to you by the same party who wants to hand count ballots. But also decides to NOT allow a vote on an immigration bill that would have provided for the addition of staffing to aid in the processing of immigrants.
:lol: You know this game works on these idiots. You're seeing it right here.

They think apps make it easier for the immigrants to eat cats and dogs. They do. not. care. that having the .gov have tech that's anywhere close to what real businesses enjoy every day to make their businesses more efficient is a GREAT THING.

It's all in how Trump and RIghtWingMedia sells it, and no matter how many times I explain this to the forum...they fall for it every time. RightWingMedia can spin the sun rising in the morning as a catastrophic event for Republican voters.....and these voters would hold meetings with the flat Earthers to put a stop to the sun. :roll:

Yeah guys, let's go back to the days of carbon paper and Ellis Island now that Trump told you tech is bad. There is no end to this stupidity.
Old Salt, YA, C&S, Tech, Petey and people like them are all the same. They don’t support Trump but can’t bring themselves to critique him but give both barrels to dems and FLP that they also don’t support. They come across as disingenuous at best and liars at worst, in my opinion with all due respect.
You don't pay attention very well do you? I'm not voting for trump. I'm also not voting for that other person running in the race. One of these two candidates will win. Then America moves on to whatever happens next.
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a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:49 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:15 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:10 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:06 am
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:38 am
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:22 am
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:24 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:28 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:07 pm Trump in Wisconsin today: “I will shut down all entries through Kamala’s migrant phone app. She’s got a phone app. It’s meant for the cartel heads. The cartel heads call the app, and they tell them where to drop the illegal migrants… It’s not even believable.”

Can we not agree that he’s a sick, old depleted man who never had much brainpower to begin with?
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
Want to take a wild guess which administration launched this horrible, horrible APP, Youth?

(pssst....don't tell Trump that's his app, or tell him that migrants are using the app to find where dogs and cats live, so they can eat them. ;) )
Agreed. Its ‘original function’ was to assist in e-paperwork to relieve stress at the border entries, with only a few entries by those seeking entry. It then evolved into a mess sometime in early 2023, when things were ramping up from title 42. https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/
I'd take a listen to him rebutting the wild MAGA claims in other places other then in front of Congress where the R's can play games....and not make any assumptions as to how the app was used under Trump.

Because I can assure you, Trump has NO IDEA that is HIS App, not "Kamala's".... and isn't that cute that now that he's not running, nothing is Joe's fault anymore?

When Trump wins, we'll see how fast he passes bills to fix these problems. Or if he does like last time, and all but shuts down legal work VISA programs, making farming of hand-harvested goods next to impossible for no good reason.

This is Reagan-phones all over again.....Reagan starts the program, and Obama takes the blame.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/

The Biden administration published a new rule that requires migrants to seek asylum by making an appointment at a port of entry through an online app

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... bp-one-app

CBP One Expands
CBP One was not created for purposes of data collection. A Capability Roadmap for CBP One from October 2020 shows CBP’s plans for the app, which did not include plans to use the app for processing individuals at ports of entry.
However, a few months later, it was being used for just that.
On February 19, 2021, DHS published the first PIA for CBP One. The PIA included a description of how the app would be used to help process individuals enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).  
That's swell, Old Salt. Didn't address one word from Trump's lying mouth. You've moved the goalposts, and ignore his lies, because that's what you do, and then pretend that you didn't ignore his lies.

-where's the part where this is "Kamala's app". Not Joe's of course...Kamala is now President.

-where's the part about the cartels using the app?

-where's the part about cartels telling illegal immigrants to go?

Oh, that's right, you didn't address that, accepted his lies, and then tell us you don't vote for him. Same as it ever was.

And "CBP One was not created for the purposes of data collection". :lol: Tell the class how the app works WITHOUT collecting data??? What do you and your buds think the word "data" means? Or is the problem you don't know what the word "collect" means?
This negative opinion of using technology to aid in immigration management brought to you by the same party who wants to hand count ballots. But also decides to NOT allow a vote on an immigration bill that would have provided for the addition of staffing to aid in the processing of immigrants.
:lol: You know this game works on these idiots. You're seeing it right here.

They think apps make it easier for the immigrants to eat cats and dogs. They do. not. care. that having the .gov have tech that's anywhere close to what real businesses enjoy every day to make their businesses more efficient is a GREAT THING.

It's all in how Trump and RIghtWingMedia sells it, and no matter how many times I explain this to the forum...they fall for it every time. RightWingMedia can spin the sun rising in the morning as a catastrophic event for Republican voters.....and these voters would hold meetings with the flat Earthers to put a stop to the sun. :roll:

Yeah guys, let's go back to the days of carbon paper and Ellis Island now that Trump told you tech is bad. There is no end to this stupidity.
Old Salt, YA, C&S, Tech, Petey and people like them are all the same. They don’t support Trump but can’t bring themselves to critique him but give both barrels to dems and FLP that they also don’t support. They come across as disingenuous at best and liars at worst, in my opinion with all due respect.
To be clear, when I say "these idiots"....I'm hoping the crew here doesn't believe in the cat and dog Trump nonsense, and I'm not talking about the posters above on that point. But I do believe they keep falling for the R spin where no matter what the Dems do, it's wrong.

The easy one is the Afghanistan pullout....where the riff was "he left too fast". And if Biden took a year plus to get out, and troops were hit, they'd be whining about that. It's just.....exhausting watch this game work on them over and over and over.

And if a R was in office? They be perfectly fine with the withdrawal, and lecture us on how it's a war zone, and people die in war zones.
Your misunderstanding my man. Joe Biden was certainly given advice how to leave Afghanistan. How any recommendations would have started with shutting down Bagram Airfield? The USA invested untold billions into converting Bagram into a state of the art facility to provide heavy, medium and light lift equipment into the AOO. So trying to understand the logistics required to leave Afghanistan very quickly why was Bagram suddenly shut down? Bagram Airfield was designed to provide the rapid extraction of all assets human and equipment. Think about that people? Why would our administration do such a stupid thing? That is what Bagram was designed to do...
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cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:53 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:15 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:10 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:06 am
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:38 am
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:22 am
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:24 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:28 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:07 pm Trump in Wisconsin today: “I will shut down all entries through Kamala’s migrant phone app. She’s got a phone app. It’s meant for the cartel heads. The cartel heads call the app, and they tell them where to drop the illegal migrants… It’s not even believable.”

Can we not agree that he’s a sick, old depleted man who never had much brainpower to begin with?
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
Want to take a wild guess which administration launched this horrible, horrible APP, Youth?

(pssst....don't tell Trump that's his app, or tell him that migrants are using the app to find where dogs and cats live, so they can eat them. ;) )
Agreed. Its ‘original function’ was to assist in e-paperwork to relieve stress at the border entries, with only a few entries by those seeking entry. It then evolved into a mess sometime in early 2023, when things were ramping up from title 42. https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/
I'd take a listen to him rebutting the wild MAGA claims in other places other then in front of Congress where the R's can play games....and not make any assumptions as to how the app was used under Trump.

Because I can assure you, Trump has NO IDEA that is HIS App, not "Kamala's".... and isn't that cute that now that he's not running, nothing is Joe's fault anymore?

When Trump wins, we'll see how fast he passes bills to fix these problems. Or if he does like last time, and all but shuts down legal work VISA programs, making farming of hand-harvested goods next to impossible for no good reason.

This is Reagan-phones all over again.....Reagan starts the program, and Obama takes the blame.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/

The Biden administration published a new rule that requires migrants to seek asylum by making an appointment at a port of entry through an online app

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... bp-one-app

CBP One Expands
CBP One was not created for purposes of data collection. A Capability Roadmap for CBP One from October 2020 shows CBP’s plans for the app, which did not include plans to use the app for processing individuals at ports of entry.
However, a few months later, it was being used for just that.
On February 19, 2021, DHS published the first PIA for CBP One. The PIA included a description of how the app would be used to help process individuals enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).  
That's swell, Old Salt. Didn't address one word from Trump's lying mouth. You've moved the goalposts, and ignore his lies, because that's what you do, and then pretend that you didn't ignore his lies.

-where's the part where this is "Kamala's app". Not Joe's of course...Kamala is now President.

-where's the part about the cartels using the app?

-where's the part about cartels telling illegal immigrants to go?

Oh, that's right, you didn't address that, accepted his lies, and then tell us you don't vote for him. Same as it ever was.

And "CBP One was not created for the purposes of data collection". :lol: Tell the class how the app works WITHOUT collecting data??? What do you and your buds think the word "data" means? Or is the problem you don't know what the word "collect" means?
This negative opinion of using technology to aid in immigration management brought to you by the same party who wants to hand count ballots. But also decides to NOT allow a vote on an immigration bill that would have provided for the addition of staffing to aid in the processing of immigrants.
:lol: You know this game works on these idiots. You're seeing it right here.

They think apps make it easier for the immigrants to eat cats and dogs. They do. not. care. that having the .gov have tech that's anywhere close to what real businesses enjoy every day to make their businesses more efficient is a GREAT THING.

It's all in how Trump and RIghtWingMedia sells it, and no matter how many times I explain this to the forum...they fall for it every time. RightWingMedia can spin the sun rising in the morning as a catastrophic event for Republican voters.....and these voters would hold meetings with the flat Earthers to put a stop to the sun. :roll:

Yeah guys, let's go back to the days of carbon paper and Ellis Island now that Trump told you tech is bad. There is no end to this stupidity.
Old Salt, YA, C&S, Tech, Petey and people like them are all the same. They don’t support Trump but can’t bring themselves to critique him but give both barrels to dems and FLP that they also don’t support. They come across as disingenuous at best and liars at worst, in my opinion with all due respect.
You don't pay attention very well do you? I'm not voting for trump. I'm also not voting for that other person running in the race. One of these two candidates will win. Then America moves on to whatever happens next.
So true.

Isn't it funny, or would it be sad?, how a comment about an APP, or whatever is thrown out on a topic, most-always seems to result in a barb towards the few of us the differ from the fanlax masses. Yet, we are told, those that lean right, are really the intolerant ones. Makes you wonder why they go there?

Craddle, people like you and I have a higher emotional IQ, b/c our of ambivalence. Others that last out towards us, lack this ability and in infuriates them.
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:35 pm So true.

Isn't it funny, or would it be sad?, how a comment about an APP, or whatever is thrown out on a topic, most-always seems to result in a barb towards the few of us the differ from the fanlax masses. Yet, we are told, those that lean right, are really the intolerant ones. Makes you wonder why they go there?

Craddle, people like you and I have a higher emotional IQ, b/c our of ambivalence. Others that last out towards us, lack this ability and in infuriates them.
This would be fine if you were truly ambivalent all the time (which you aren't as you often defend Fatso bad behavior) maybe to just get a rise from people.

Your diagnosis of what allegedly ails people with whom you disagree is also quite specious as well. As they say "The Doctor is OUT!"
Psychoanalysis is best left to those qualified to practice it. :oops:
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:35 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:53 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:15 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:10 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:06 am
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:38 am
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:22 am
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:24 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:28 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:07 pm Trump in Wisconsin today: “I will shut down all entries through Kamala’s migrant phone app. She’s got a phone app. It’s meant for the cartel heads. The cartel heads call the app, and they tell them where to drop the illegal migrants… It’s not even believable.”

Can we not agree that he’s a sick, old depleted man who never had much brainpower to begin with?
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
Want to take a wild guess which administration launched this horrible, horrible APP, Youth?

(pssst....don't tell Trump that's his app, or tell him that migrants are using the app to find where dogs and cats live, so they can eat them. ;) )
Agreed. Its ‘original function’ was to assist in e-paperwork to relieve stress at the border entries, with only a few entries by those seeking entry. It then evolved into a mess sometime in early 2023, when things were ramping up from title 42. https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/
I'd take a listen to him rebutting the wild MAGA claims in other places other then in front of Congress where the R's can play games....and not make any assumptions as to how the app was used under Trump.

Because I can assure you, Trump has NO IDEA that is HIS App, not "Kamala's".... and isn't that cute that now that he's not running, nothing is Joe's fault anymore?

When Trump wins, we'll see how fast he passes bills to fix these problems. Or if he does like last time, and all but shuts down legal work VISA programs, making farming of hand-harvested goods next to impossible for no good reason.

This is Reagan-phones all over again.....Reagan starts the program, and Obama takes the blame.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/

The Biden administration published a new rule that requires migrants to seek asylum by making an appointment at a port of entry through an online app

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... bp-one-app

CBP One Expands
CBP One was not created for purposes of data collection. A Capability Roadmap for CBP One from October 2020 shows CBP’s plans for the app, which did not include plans to use the app for processing individuals at ports of entry.
However, a few months later, it was being used for just that.
On February 19, 2021, DHS published the first PIA for CBP One. The PIA included a description of how the app would be used to help process individuals enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).  
That's swell, Old Salt. Didn't address one word from Trump's lying mouth. You've moved the goalposts, and ignore his lies, because that's what you do, and then pretend that you didn't ignore his lies.

-where's the part where this is "Kamala's app". Not Joe's of course...Kamala is now President.

-where's the part about the cartels using the app?

-where's the part about cartels telling illegal immigrants to go?

Oh, that's right, you didn't address that, accepted his lies, and then tell us you don't vote for him. Same as it ever was.

And "CBP One was not created for the purposes of data collection". :lol: Tell the class how the app works WITHOUT collecting data??? What do you and your buds think the word "data" means? Or is the problem you don't know what the word "collect" means?
This negative opinion of using technology to aid in immigration management brought to you by the same party who wants to hand count ballots. But also decides to NOT allow a vote on an immigration bill that would have provided for the addition of staffing to aid in the processing of immigrants.
:lol: You know this game works on these idiots. You're seeing it right here.

They think apps make it easier for the immigrants to eat cats and dogs. They do. not. care. that having the .gov have tech that's anywhere close to what real businesses enjoy every day to make their businesses more efficient is a GREAT THING.

It's all in how Trump and RIghtWingMedia sells it, and no matter how many times I explain this to the forum...they fall for it every time. RightWingMedia can spin the sun rising in the morning as a catastrophic event for Republican voters.....and these voters would hold meetings with the flat Earthers to put a stop to the sun. :roll:

Yeah guys, let's go back to the days of carbon paper and Ellis Island now that Trump told you tech is bad. There is no end to this stupidity.
Old Salt, YA, C&S, Tech, Petey and people like them are all the same. They don’t support Trump but can’t bring themselves to critique him but give both barrels to dems and FLP that they also don’t support. They come across as disingenuous at best and liars at worst, in my opinion with all due respect.
You don't pay attention very well do you? I'm not voting for trump. I'm also not voting for that other person running in the race. One of these two candidates will win. Then America moves on to whatever happens next.
So true.

Isn't it funny, or would it be sad?, how a comment about an APP, or whatever is thrown out on a topic, most-always seems to result in a barb towards the few of us the differ from the fanlax masses. Yet, we are told, those that lean right, are really the intolerant ones. Makes you wonder why they go there?
You're fibbing, and you're doing it on purpose. It wasn't a "comment about an App"...that you made all by yourself out of thin air.

It started with Trump lying about an App, making up stupid things on the spot.

Before Trump lied about this stupid App, you didn't know about it, or care. Not a word about it.

Trump shows up, lies, gets you all worked up, and then you come on an yell at us because you gobbled down Trump's bait....and then plead "what me, a partisan" after parroting something Trump told you.

Stop citing Trump. Stop citing RightWIngMedia lies if you "don't want us being partisan"....when you know doggone well I"m DELIGHTED to have nonpartisan conversations here.

Start with something that's bothering you that isn't the soup of the day from Trump or FoxNation. Surely you can think of things that they aren't telling you about that are bothering you. I'll discuss that stuff all day long without EVER bringing up Trump or Rs, my man. Happy to do it!
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a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:00 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:35 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:53 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:15 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:10 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:06 am
a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:38 am
old salt wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:22 am
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:24 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:39 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:28 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:07 pm Trump in Wisconsin today: “I will shut down all entries through Kamala’s migrant phone app. She’s got a phone app. It’s meant for the cartel heads. The cartel heads call the app, and they tell them where to drop the illegal migrants… It’s not even believable.”

Can we not agree that he’s a sick, old depleted man who never had much brainpower to begin with?
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
Want to take a wild guess which administration launched this horrible, horrible APP, Youth?

(pssst....don't tell Trump that's his app, or tell him that migrants are using the app to find where dogs and cats live, so they can eat them. ;) )
Agreed. Its ‘original function’ was to assist in e-paperwork to relieve stress at the border entries, with only a few entries by those seeking entry. It then evolved into a mess sometime in early 2023, when things were ramping up from title 42. https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/
I'd take a listen to him rebutting the wild MAGA claims in other places other then in front of Congress where the R's can play games....and not make any assumptions as to how the app was used under Trump.

Because I can assure you, Trump has NO IDEA that is HIS App, not "Kamala's".... and isn't that cute that now that he's not running, nothing is Joe's fault anymore?

When Trump wins, we'll see how fast he passes bills to fix these problems. Or if he does like last time, and all but shuts down legal work VISA programs, making farming of hand-harvested goods next to impossible for no good reason.

This is Reagan-phones all over again.....Reagan starts the program, and Obama takes the blame.
https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/artic ... on-policy/

The Biden administration published a new rule that requires migrants to seek asylum by making an appointment at a port of entry through an online app

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... bp-one-app

CBP One Expands
CBP One was not created for purposes of data collection. A Capability Roadmap for CBP One from October 2020 shows CBP’s plans for the app, which did not include plans to use the app for processing individuals at ports of entry.
However, a few months later, it was being used for just that.
On February 19, 2021, DHS published the first PIA for CBP One. The PIA included a description of how the app would be used to help process individuals enrolled in the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).  
That's swell, Old Salt. Didn't address one word from Trump's lying mouth. You've moved the goalposts, and ignore his lies, because that's what you do, and then pretend that you didn't ignore his lies.

-where's the part where this is "Kamala's app". Not Joe's of course...Kamala is now President.

-where's the part about the cartels using the app?

-where's the part about cartels telling illegal immigrants to go?

Oh, that's right, you didn't address that, accepted his lies, and then tell us you don't vote for him. Same as it ever was.

And "CBP One was not created for the purposes of data collection". :lol: Tell the class how the app works WITHOUT collecting data??? What do you and your buds think the word "data" means? Or is the problem you don't know what the word "collect" means?
This negative opinion of using technology to aid in immigration management brought to you by the same party who wants to hand count ballots. But also decides to NOT allow a vote on an immigration bill that would have provided for the addition of staffing to aid in the processing of immigrants.
:lol: You know this game works on these idiots. You're seeing it right here.

They think apps make it easier for the immigrants to eat cats and dogs. They do. not. care. that having the .gov have tech that's anywhere close to what real businesses enjoy every day to make their businesses more efficient is a GREAT THING.

It's all in how Trump and RIghtWingMedia sells it, and no matter how many times I explain this to the forum...they fall for it every time. RightWingMedia can spin the sun rising in the morning as a catastrophic event for Republican voters.....and these voters would hold meetings with the flat Earthers to put a stop to the sun. :roll:

Yeah guys, let's go back to the days of carbon paper and Ellis Island now that Trump told you tech is bad. There is no end to this stupidity.
Old Salt, YA, C&S, Tech, Petey and people like them are all the same. They don’t support Trump but can’t bring themselves to critique him but give both barrels to dems and FLP that they also don’t support. They come across as disingenuous at best and liars at worst, in my opinion with all due respect.
You don't pay attention very well do you? I'm not voting for trump. I'm also not voting for that other person running in the race. One of these two candidates will win. Then America moves on to whatever happens next.
So true.

Isn't it funny, or would it be sad?, how a comment about an APP, or whatever is thrown out on a topic, most-always seems to result in a barb towards the few of us the differ from the fanlax masses. Yet, we are told, those that lean right, are really the intolerant ones. Makes you wonder why they go there?
You're fibbing, and you're doing it on purpose. It wasn't a "comment about an App"...that you made all by yourself out of thin air.

It started with Trump lying about an App, making up stupid things on the spot.

Before Trump lied about this stupid App, you didn't know about it, or care. Not a word about it.

Trump shows up, lies, gets you all worked up, and then you come on an yell at us because you gobbled down Trump's bait....and then plead "what me, a partisan" after parroting something Trump told you.

Stop citing Trump. Stop citing RightWIngMedia lies if you "don't want us being partisan"....when you know doggone well I"m DELIGHTED to have nonpartisan conversations here.

Start with something that's bothering you that isn't the soup of the day from Trump or FoxNation. Surely you can think of things that they aren't telling you about that are bothering you. I'll discuss that stuff all day long without EVER bringing up Trump or Rs, my man. Happy to do it!
Please re-read my initial reply to Seacoaster, where his original post certainly sounded like he was unfamiliar with the CBP One App. and where in my reply was there mention of ANY politics. If you are honest with yourself, you'll see it was completely benign.
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:35 pm
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:57 pm
Please re-read my initial reply to Seacoaster, where his original post certainly sounded like he was unfamiliar with the CBP One App. and where in my reply was there mention of ANY politics. If you are honest with yourself, you'll see it was completely benign.
I just did reread it per instructions.

You cited a partisan youtube of a one-sided grilling in Congress by Republicans to start your contribution to the discussion, correct?
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Kismet wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:42 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:35 pm So true.

Isn't it funny, or would it be sad?, how a comment about an APP, or whatever is thrown out on a topic, most-always seems to result in a barb towards the few of us the differ from the fanlax masses. Yet, we are told, those that lean right, are really the intolerant ones. Makes you wonder why they go there?

Craddle, people like you and I have a higher emotional IQ, b/c our of ambivalence. Others that last out towards us, lack this ability and in infuriates them.
This would be fine if you were truly ambivalent all the time (which you aren't as you often defend Fatso bad behavior) maybe to just get a rise from people.

Your diagnosis of what allegedly ails people with whom you disagree is also quite specious as well. As they say "The Doctor is OUT!"
Psychoanalysis is best left to those qualified to practice it. :oops:
See.....you are proving my point. You can't wrap your head around how me, craddle, OS etc think about topics, and post items that counter the majorities narrative around here. It frustrates you all, and to make it make sense to you, its far easier to attack, align to a partisan allegiance, or some personal barb that is crafted as a backhanded comment. Of course, we fight back....I spend the majority of my time doing just that. It's tough out here, dealing with people the refuse to to listen to a different idea or not fall in line. ;) :lol:
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OCanada wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:10 am Trump has been a convulsive liar his entire career. Over 10,000x in the four yeats of his presidency. Vance last night was the mini me of Trump. Lied his butt off all night. Trump on Truth Social is writing what he thinks will motivate his base. Only fools or true believers think he is ever telling the truth

Biden/Harris aren’t withholding hurricane funds like some MAGAs and trolls claim. You know who did?

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That's right - it was republiCON tRump_Stupid who did.
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a fan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:01 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:35 pm
I take it you don’t know that there is an Immigration App. And once they arrive for the ticket master appointment, they asked no questions, and stroll in.

https://youtu.be/9H8QwrxscGs?si=pITjRVKBZplztRzc
youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:57 pm
Please re-read my initial reply to Seacoaster, where his original post certainly sounded like he was unfamiliar with the CBP One App. and where in my reply was there mention of ANY politics. If you are honest with yourself, you'll see it was completely benign.
I just did reread it per instructions.

You cited a partisan youtube of a one-sided grilling in Congress by Republicans to start your contribution to the discussion, correct?
I did not perceive or even consider that video would be seen as partisan, at all, when the goal is document an APP existed. I went to youtube, typed "Border APP", and inserted the first thing that showed up, When I saw it had Mayorkas talking about it, I knew there would be no ambiguity that the APP was a real thing, rather than using a cite from elsewhere that could have been seen as trash or leaning a certain way.

Go to your Youtube, and in the search bar, type "Border App".

I should have known...only you, would insert a partisan response. ;) :lol: :lol:
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:13 pmI did not perceive or even consider that video would be seen as partisan, at all, when the goal is document an APP existed. I went to youtube, typed "Border APP", and inserted the first thing that showed up, When I saw it had Mayorkas talking about it, I knew there would be no ambiguity that the APP was a real thing, rather than using a cite from elsewhere that could have been seen as trash or leaning a certain way.

Go to your Youtube, and in the search bar, type "Border App".

I should have known...only you, would insert a partisan response. ;) :lol: :lol:
You didn't think a video titled "JUST IN: Josh Hawley Explodes At Mayorkas Over App He Says Helps Illegal Immigrants Enter US" would be seen as partisan? :lol:
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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:48 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:13 pmI did not perceive or even consider that video would be seen as partisan, at all, when the goal is document an APP existed. I went to youtube, typed "Border APP", and inserted the first thing that showed up, When I saw it had Mayorkas talking about it, I knew there would be no ambiguity that the APP was a real thing, rather than using a cite from elsewhere that could have been seen as trash or leaning a certain way.

Go to your Youtube, and in the search bar, type "Border App".

I should have known...only you, would insert a partisan response. ;) :lol: :lol:
You didn't think a video titled "JUST IN: Josh Hawley Explodes At Mayorkas Over App He Says Helps Illegal Immigrants Enter US" would be seen as partisan? :lol:
He knows. He's messing with us, and knows that HE is the one who made this a partisan conversation.

Wanna see the non partisan link, Youth? Here ya go. Took me two seconds to find it. Sawbuck says nearly every word on it was written in 2020, except the, oh, I don't know, part marked "recent updates Sep 23, 2024".

Strangely, no mention of Hawley, Trump, Biden, R's, D's, or anything else. Just information.

https://www.cbp.gov/about/mobile-apps-directory/cbpone
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