youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:48 pm
Ummm....that's what we are discussing, the Southern Border.
No. That's what YOU want to limit the discussion to. I could give a fig about the S border if everyone wants to ignore the the far, far, far larger problem.
And I've told you this several time.
youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:48 pm
Umm....we are discussing the added complexity they just did that compounded the problem, but you don't care, you just want to raise taxes, pass spending bills to throw money at it, then blame an R for god knows what next.
Nope. I asked you what YOUR solution was. And you don't have one. Which is why you're using the same misdirection and changing of the subject you almost always use when asked a direct question that you can't answer.
You DID answer why you didn't like the BiPartisan bill. But a fat lot of good that does if you don't have a replacement for it.
youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:48 pm
Where the fug did you come up with that make believe sh(t. Building a wall was something I agree with...do you somehow think that was free. Stop with trying to box people in a corner with things they do not say.
Where did I come up with the idea that you can't spend money to fix the problem? From you, my man.
Who complained that the BiPartisan bill costs money? You? Or me?
So......what did you complain about the fact bills costs money, when you're perfectly fine with spending mone?
youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:12 pm
Actually, no, I don't know why...b/c it would make a lot more sense to be transparent, not argumentative, and meet somewhere in the middle.
I'll be more direct: I spend four years under Trump, trying to get you and your fellow Republicans to hold Trump accountable for doing a good job.
You REFUSED to do it. So why are you having a difficult time understand that when you try and hold the Dems accountable now that they are in charge......your fellow posters are laughing at you?
youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:48 pm
Do tell or is this back to your "What bill did he pass" horsechit.
Yes. He didn't pass a bill fixing immigration.
Dude: you're telling us you don't care that Trump didn't pass a bill fixing immigration....yet at the same time, you're whining that the rreaking Dem VP didn't pass a bill fixing immigration?? What part of "you're being a hypocrite, YA" are you missing?
youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:48 pm
Do tell, b/c I do not recall.
You don't recall mocking posters for criticizing Trump? Yeah, right.
youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:48 pm
If he did nothing as you said, then why did Biden nix everything Trump implemented, which was working? Remember, you just told us the border is only one part of a larger issue.
You're talking about pointless EO's that don't do DIDDLY to fix the actual problem. You don't want to hear it, so we're at an impasse.
youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:48 pm
If your foeder springs a leak are you going to to continue to keep pouring liquid in it?
Actually, yes. That's LITERALLY what you do. But that's Foeders are weird, and the metaphor, while well intended, doesn't work here.
youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:48 pm
There is a lot to unpack here, because the discussion was Border crossing and the crime from it from 2021-2024. By you introducing VISA and Businesses, is a completely different subject, that conflates the line item discussion we were attempting to have. Try focusing.
I'm not "introducing" anything. I have told you REPEATEDLY that VISA overstays are larger numbers than the S border in terms of illegal workers. You just don't care.
youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:48 pm
Again, the VISA and Business aspect is an etnirely different subject....so yes you are right, he did not do anything about that. we agree. I am for turning on e-Verify and have stated that before. I even posted all the negatives about it, but was still in favor of it.
You agree NOW, and I appreciate that.
But you let him do NOTHING while he was in office, and mocked folks for ripping him for failing to complete the task that campaigned on. Immigration was Trump's reason to run. That, and 'draining the swamp'. He did neither. And you didn't care about this.
youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:48 pm
\Correct, b/c I wanted to see the fruit of the labor from the wall being finished, supporting our Border Patrol completely, without the need to spend just to increase their numbers, by using the wall and technology. As noted numerous times, stopping the bleeding is the major issue, everything else
Do you not understand that the wall doesn't work? Dude. You're a smart, smart guy. How hard do you think it would be for you to figure out how to get over or through Trump's wall. Use your head.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion ... 372239002/