Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

[PizzaSnake]

Satine Warrior needs to get out more - crime statistics for undocumented vs. citizens tell a different story than he gets from his propaganda feed - what no National Review Op-Ed on this topic?


Any number of various studies prove the point - like your pal Fatso you're wrong again.

https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/mythica ... -and-crime

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... crime-wave

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/12371031 ... udies-find

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2 ... e-us-born/

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/brie ... crime.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 788637007/

What a stupid excuse for letting thousands of convicted criminals enter the country & then roam free & get lost in the population.

Stats for idiots.

IDIOTS like you deny statistics you don't like. You prefer YOUR moronic propaganda in an attempt to explain why you are smarter than everyone else when, in reality you are the largest dopey a-hole here. The point is that there are criminal elements in EVERY population.

Up yours

We like our criminals red blooded American. Who cares if immigrants commit less crimes on average than full blooded Americans. Better yet, we like our sexual assault perpetrators to be men of the cloth.

I prefer ‘em exsanguinated.

[old salt]

Here's the simple solution. If charged, & for sure if already convicted, of a violent crime, detain the illegal migrant & notify ICE to take custody.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Here's the simple solution. If charged, & for sure if already convicted, of a violent crime, detain the illegal migrant & notify ICE to take custody.

In sanctuary cities, each unit increase in the immigrant population was connected to a half percent decrease in the homicide rate. In sanctuary cities, each unit increase in the unauthorized immigrant population was connected to a five percent decrease in the homicide rate.

Maybe red blooded Americans are more violent.

[cradleandshoot]

Here's the simple solution. If charged, & for sure if already convicted, of a violent crime, detain the illegal migrant & notify ICE to take custody.

In sanctuary cities, each unit increase in the immigrant population was connected to a half percent decrease in the homicide rate. In sanctuary cities, each unit increase in the unauthorized immigrant population was connected to a five percent decrease in the homicide rate.

Maybe red blooded Americans are more violent.

More useless statistics. I might be wrong, you appear more intelligent when posting stupid videos...

[old salt]

Here's the simple solution. If charged, & for sure if already convicted, of a violent crime, detain the illegal migrant & notify ICE to take custody.

...every single crime committed by an illegally present immigrant was preventable and should never have happened

the Department of Homeland Security detention and removal machine cannot prevent a single crime by an American citizen.

All crimes committed by illegal aliens represent an unnecessary and preventable burden on American society and its criminal justice system.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Here's the simple solution. If charged, & for sure if already convicted, of a violent crime, detain the illegal migrant & notify ICE to take custody.

...every single crime committed by an illegally present immigrant was preventable and should never have happened

the Department of Homeland Security detention and removal machine cannot prevent a single crime by an American citizen.

All crimes committed by illegal aliens represent an unnecessary and preventable burden on American society and its criminal justice system.

When did we last have 0 illegal aliens in this country?

[OCanada]

Here's the simple solution. If charged, & for sure if already convicted, of a violent crime, detain the illegal migrant & notify ICE to take custody.

...every single crime committed by an illegally present immigrant was preventable and should never have happened

the Department of Homeland Security detention and removal machine cannot prevent a single crime by an American citizen.

All crimes committed by illegal aliens represent an unnecessary and preventable burden on American society and its criminal justice system.

When did we last have 0 illegal aliens in this country?

OS spouting the ususl BS. Illegals commit fewer crimes proportionally than the natives. My memory may fail me but i believe the highest murder rates in the country are mostly found in red states

[Typical Lax Dad]

Here's the simple solution. If charged, & for sure if already convicted, of a violent crime, detain the illegal migrant & notify ICE to take custody.

...every single crime committed by an illegally present immigrant was preventable and should never have happened

the Department of Homeland Security detention and removal machine cannot prevent a single crime by an American citizen.

All crimes committed by illegal aliens represent an unnecessary and preventable burden on American society and its criminal justice system.

When did we last have 0 illegal aliens in this country?

OS spouting the ususl BS. Illegals commit fewer crimes proportionally than the natives. My memory may fail me but i believe the highest murder rates in the country are mostly found in red states

These aren’t preventable so we don’t mind if it’s a red blooded American….we can’t do anything at all to help reduce these…

[youthathletics]

Since 2021: https://wsau.com/2024/09/27/ice-directo ... l-assault/





https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1839741316068192551

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1839722731342049348

https://wsau.com/2024/09/27/ice-directo ... l-assault/

I suppose these stats by ICE are inconsequential?

Funny justification with all those cites below, implying that continued crime is really ok. Last I checked, when you increase population (by determining walking across the border makes you legal and counted) and crime numbers also increase as a result, the crime stat needle moves ever-so-slightly; the end justifies the means. We'll take the crime and deal with it, b/c we really don't care, so long as we keep population numbers in our favor.

Just stay out of my gated community, my vineyard, and go over there to the lower-middle class section so I can sip my highball while I play bridge, admire my rose garden and make it to the country club for my private lessons. If they were really honest with themselves, as they tell us the wealthy need to pay their fair-share, they'd send them into those locations where altruism could shine.

That's all great. You don't have a solution, do you? You didn't like Trump's bill, because he didn't even pretend to give us one. You didn't like Biden's Jan. 2020 bill, because the House refused to work on it. You didn't like the BiPartisan bill, because of the reasons you gave us.

You don't know what to do, cept yell at the Dems. Which, of course, is why Trump didn't fix it, and why he killed the BiPartisan bill.....YOU are the endgame for this, YA. The ENTIRE goal of the GOP is: keep you angry and blaming the Dems.

On a scale of 1-10, how well do you think this strategy is working? I'd peg it at a 9.

And boy, I think it's REAL cute that your TwitterBus ONLY want to look at reports that started in 2021, and never once looked at the damage done by illegal workers when Trump was here. Gee, what a "coincidence". They must be Sooper-Serious about fixing these problems, just like the Tea Party like, for real-sy wanted to cut spending when a black guy was in the White House.....

I have offered solutions....you just want to sling partisan mud and not pay attention. I did like what Trump was working on (which did not require a bill). Had the current administration not cancelled all the EO's, let it go hell, then Kamala now says damned near the same thing Trump was, is a clear exercise futility; which implies they wanted this to happen....why is that?

As you have noticed, you don't need a bill to make changes, it's as easy is implementing EO's, then canceling them like the recent admin did....and we ended up here. As if we a bill to solve the cazillion laws already on the books. God forbid we talk about a current administration...... oh, the tragedy. We are wise to your BS "what bill" did they [insert afan partisan talking point here]pass.

Well....there is plenty of reason to yell at our current VP, who was assigned to work on this very issue by the POTUS, in this instance, they did make it worse, and you don't even have it in you to acknowledge the facts put forth from ICE....which BTW, ain't Twitter.

It's really not that hard my man....do you lock your storefront, adhere to the Fire Marshall's capacity, and escort guests out of the building when do not follow the rules. OF course not....right?

[cradleandshoot]

Here's the simple solution. If charged, & for sure if already convicted, of a violent crime, detain the illegal migrant & notify ICE to take custody.

...every single crime committed by an illegally present immigrant was preventable and should never have happened

the Department of Homeland Security detention and removal machine cannot prevent a single crime by an American citizen.

All crimes committed by illegal aliens represent an unnecessary and preventable burden on American society and its criminal justice system.

When did we last have 0 illegal aliens in this country?

Hard to count. They are all hiding in sanctuary cities thumbing their nose at our laws. The question not being asked is why aren't these bad actors being turned over to ICE for deportation?
That will at least keep them out of the US for a few months until they sneak across the border again.

[Kismet]

I have offered solutions....you just want to sling partisan mud and not pay attention. I did like what Trump was working on (which did not require a bill). Had the current administration not cancelled all the EO's, let it go hell, then Kamala now says damned near the same thing Trump was, is a clear exercise futility; which implies they wanted this to happen....why is that?

As you have noticed, you don't need a bill to make changes, it's as easy is implementing EO's, then canceling them like the recent admin did....and we ended up here. As if we a bill to solve the cazillion laws already on the books. God forbid we talk about a current administration...... oh, the tragedy. We are wise to your BS "what bill" did they [insert afan partisan talking point here]pass.

Well....there is plenty of reason to yell at our current VP, who was assigned to work on this very issue by the POTUS, in this instance, they did make it worse, and you don't even have it in you to acknowledge the facts put forth from ICE....which BTW, ain't Twitter.

It's really not that hard my man....do you lock your storefront, adhere to the Fire Marshall's capacity, and escort guests out of the building when do not follow the rules. OF course not....right?

Too bad the politicians are interested in solutions but rather like the current mess so they can demonize the other side and make it their fault.
Fatso tanked the last bill because he wanted to run on the current situation. Biden could not wait to wiilly-nilly undo anything Fatso did when he was in office.

[cradleandshoot]

Since 2021: https://wsau.com/2024/09/27/ice-directo ... l-assault/





https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1839741316068192551

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1839722731342049348

https://wsau.com/2024/09/27/ice-directo ... l-assault/

I suppose these stats by ICE are inconsequential?

Funny justification with all those cites below, implying that continued crime is really ok. Last I checked, when you increase population (by determining walking across the border makes you legal and counted) and crime numbers also increase as a result, the crime stat needle moves ever-so-slightly; the end justifies the means. We'll take the crime and deal with it, b/c we really don't care, so long as we keep population numbers in our favor.

Just stay out of my gated community, my vineyard, and go over there to the lower-middle class section so I can sip my highball while I play bridge, admire my rose garden and make it to the country club for my private lessons. If they were really honest with themselves, as they tell us the wealthy need to pay their fair-share, they'd send them into those locations where altruism could shine.

That's all great. You don't have a solution, do you? You didn't like Trump's bill, because he didn't even pretend to give us one. You didn't like Biden's Jan. 2020 bill, because the House refused to work on it. You didn't like the BiPartisan bill, because of the reasons you gave us.

You don't know what to do, cept yell at the Dems. Which, of course, is why Trump didn't fix it, and why he killed the BiPartisan bill.....YOU are the endgame for this, YA. The ENTIRE goal of the GOP is: keep you angry and blaming the Dems.

On a scale of 1-10, how well do you think this strategy is working? I'd peg it at a 9.

And boy, I think it's REAL cute that your TwitterBus ONLY want to look at reports that started in 2021, and never once looked at the damage done by illegal workers when Trump was here. Gee, what a "coincidence". They must be Sooper-Serious about fixing these problems, just like the Tea Party like, for real-sy wanted to cut spending when a black guy was in the White House.....

I have offered solutions....you just want to sling partisan mud and not pay attention. I did like what Trump was working on (which did not require a bill). Had the current administration not cancelled all the EO's, let it go hell, then Kamala now says damned near the same thing Trump was, is a clear exercise futility; which implies they wanted this to happen....why is that?

As you have noticed, you don't need a bill to make changes, it's as easy is implementing EO's, then canceling them like the recent admin did....and we ended up here. As if we a bill to solve the cazillion laws already on the books. God forbid we talk about a current administration...... oh, the tragedy. We are wise to your BS "what bill" did they [insert afan partisan talking point here]pass.

Well....there is plenty of reason to yell at our current VP, who was assigned to work on this very issue by the POTUS, in this instance, they did make it worse, and you don't even have it in you to acknowledge the facts put forth from ICE....which BTW, ain't Twitter.

It's really not that hard my man....do you lock your storefront, adhere to the Fire Marshall's capacity, and escort guests out of the building when do not follow the rules. OF course not....right?

Didn't the USA use to have immigration laws? They seemed to have been kicked to the curb. If Washington DC doesn't like our immigration laws then pass new ones. Ignoring the laws on the books doesn't make any sense. We have laws about paying our taxes that the government is very meticulous when it comes to enforcement. No sanctuary city will stop the IRS from kicking down your door at 3am with a small army of agents armed to the teeth with weapons of war storming in to your home.

[youthathletics]

I have offered solutions....you just want to sling partisan mud and not pay attention. I did like what Trump was working on (which did not require a bill). Had the current administration not cancelled all the EO's, let it go hell, then Kamala now says damned near the same thing Trump was, is a clear exercise futility; which implies they wanted this to happen....why is that?

As you have noticed, you don't need a bill to make changes, it's as easy is implementing EO's, then canceling them like the recent admin did....and we ended up here. As if we a bill to solve the cazillion laws already on the books. God forbid we talk about a current administration...... oh, the tragedy. We are wise to your BS "what bill" did they [insert afan partisan talking point here]pass.

Well....there is plenty of reason to yell at our current VP, who was assigned to work on this very issue by the POTUS, in this instance, they did make it worse, and you don't even have it in you to acknowledge the facts put forth from ICE....which BTW, ain't Twitter.

It's really not that hard my man....do you lock your storefront, adhere to the Fire Marshall's capacity, and escort guests out of the building when do not follow the rules. OF course not....right?

Too bad the politicians are interested in solutions but rather like the current mess so they can demonize the other side and make it their fault.
Fatso tanked the last bill because he wanted to run on the current situation. Biden could not wait to wiilly-nilly undo anything Fatso did when he was in office.

Yep, appreciate the response that gets it. Your last sentence is the part we should be livid about...we actually had substantive progress in play, and the move was to just throw the grenade back over the wall.

[Kismet]

I have offered solutions....you just want to sling partisan mud and not pay attention. I did like what Trump was working on (which did not require a bill). Had the current administration not cancelled all the EO's, let it go hell, then Kamala now says damned near the same thing Trump was, is a clear exercise futility; which implies they wanted this to happen....why is that?

As you have noticed, you don't need a bill to make changes, it's as easy is implementing EO's, then canceling them like the recent admin did....and we ended up here. As if we a bill to solve the cazillion laws already on the books. God forbid we talk about a current administration...... oh, the tragedy. We are wise to your BS "what bill" did they [insert afan partisan talking point here]pass.

Well....there is plenty of reason to yell at our current VP, who was assigned to work on this very issue by the POTUS, in this instance, they did make it worse, and you don't even have it in you to acknowledge the facts put forth from ICE....which BTW, ain't Twitter.

It's really not that hard my man....do you lock your storefront, adhere to the Fire Marshall's capacity, and escort guests out of the building when do not follow the rules. OF course not....right?

Too bad the politicians are interested in solutions but rather like the current mess so they can demonize the other side and make it their fault.
Fatso tanked the last bill because he wanted to run on the current situation. Biden could not wait to wiilly-nilly undo anything Fatso did when he was in office.

Yep, appreciate the response that gets it. Your last sentence is the part we should be livid about...we actually had substantive progress in play, and the move was to just throw the grenade back over the wall.

Sorry but your selective outrage doesn't cut it and frankly just makes you part of the problem - it may be why you take so much sh*t around here - you do it all of the time. You couldn't leave it at just a compliment without, as you yourself, says dropping a grenade over the wall.

[a fan]

I have offered solutions....you just want to sling partisan mud and not pay attention.

That's the southern border. And YOUR solution does nothing but slow it down, at best. Big deal.

What's the plan for the millions who have been here for decades? And what about the VISA overstays that's a FAR bigger number than the Southern Border that gets all your attention? What's your plan?

And remember, you can't spend money to fix it. Because you claim to not want to spend money.

Let's hear your plan.

Well....there is plenty of reason to yell at our current VP, who was assigned to work on this very issue by the POTUS, in this instance, they did make it worse, and you don't even have it in you to acknowledge the facts put forth from ICE....which BTW, ain't Twitter.

You're playing dumb, and pretending that you don't know WHY I could give two figs.

You and your "immigration is a serious problem" crew elected Trump to fix it. He didn't. You didn't care, and you didn't notice. And not only did I tell you BEFORE Trump took office that he wouldn't fix the actual, real problem....I constantly reminded you that he wasn't doing anything in real time. You. didn't. care.

And what did I get in return for daring to point this out? I got claims of "Trump Derangement Syndrome"...and was roundly mocked. Remember? Wasn't that a cute response?

So now you're on here, with the tables turned, and want to forget all the above, because of course you do, and then get mad when I wont' do as you are asking, and get worked up over Dems "doing it wrong".....when you REFUSED to even pretend to do the same thing when your Former team's ENTIRE freaking platform was "we're going to fix immigration and our VISA system, and hold businesses accountable".

Remember that? Well...scoreboard. He was lying to you, and I told you he was lying to you, and just like you're doing now, you called me a partisan for calling Trump's BS out.

You had your chance to throw stones at Trumpy. You REFUSED to do it. Yet you're here with a straight face, demanding that we hold the Dems accountable. And you seriously don't get why I'm laughing at this demand?

Dude. Have just a little hubris. You know doggone well you behaved like a full on R partisan for the entirety of Trump. Stop yelling at me for YOUR partisan behavior.

[cradleandshoot]

I have offered solutions....you just want to sling partisan mud and not pay attention. I did like what Trump was working on (which did not require a bill). Had the current administration not cancelled all the EO's, let it go hell, then Kamala now says damned near the same thing Trump was, is a clear exercise futility; which implies they wanted this to happen....why is that?

As you have noticed, you don't need a bill to make changes, it's as easy is implementing EO's, then canceling them like the recent admin did....and we ended up here. As if we a bill to solve the cazillion laws already on the books. God forbid we talk about a current administration...... oh, the tragedy. We are wise to your BS "what bill" did they [insert afan partisan talking point here]pass.

Well....there is plenty of reason to yell at our current VP, who was assigned to work on this very issue by the POTUS, in this instance, they did make it worse, and you don't even have it in you to acknowledge the facts put forth from ICE....which BTW, ain't Twitter.

It's really not that hard my man....do you lock your storefront, adhere to the Fire Marshall's capacity, and escort guests out of the building when do not follow the rules. OF course not....right?

Too bad the politicians are interested in solutions but rather like the current mess so they can demonize the other side and make it their fault.
Fatso tanked the last bill because he wanted to run on the current situation. Biden could not wait to wiilly-nilly undo anything Fatso did when he was in office.

Please... Washington DC has been ignoring securing the border since Reagan signed the amnesty deal 40 years ago. The border was supposed to be secured after amnesty was granted to 30 million people. So how many of you folks think a new attempt to secure the border will fare any better? DC has the amnesty part down pat. It's the securing the border part they can't figure out for the life of them.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65574725

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cato.org/blog/president-tru ... mmigration

[Typical Lax Dad]

I hope he’s not illegal.

[PizzaSnake]

I have offered solutions....you just want to sling partisan mud and not pay attention. I did like what Trump was working on (which did not require a bill). Had the current administration not cancelled all the EO's, let it go hell, then Kamala now says damned near the same thing Trump was, is a clear exercise futility; which implies they wanted this to happen....why is that?

As you have noticed, you don't need a bill to make changes, it's as easy is implementing EO's, then canceling them like the recent admin did....and we ended up here. As if we a bill to solve the cazillion laws already on the books. God forbid we talk about a current administration...... oh, the tragedy. We are wise to your BS "what bill" did they [insert afan partisan talking point here]pass.

Well....there is plenty of reason to yell at our current VP, who was assigned to work on this very issue by the POTUS, in this instance, they did make it worse, and you don't even have it in you to acknowledge the facts put forth from ICE....which BTW, ain't Twitter.

It's really not that hard my man....do you lock your storefront, adhere to the Fire Marshall's capacity, and escort guests out of the building when do not follow the rules. OF course not....right?

Too bad the politicians are interested in solutions but rather like the current mess so they can demonize the other side and make it their fault.
Fatso tanked the last bill because he wanted to run on the current situation. Biden could not wait to wiilly-nilly undo anything Fatso did when he was in office.

Please... Washington DC has been ignoring securing the border since Reagan signed the amnesty deal 40 years ago. The border was supposed to be secured after amnesty was granted to 30 million people. So how many of you folks think a new attempt to secure the border will fare any better? DC has the amnesty part down pat. It's the securing the border part they can't figure out for the life of them.

DC? What or who do you mean? Do you mean the "representatives" elected via our political system? Do you mean the federal government employees (those other than elected, to include the appointed judiciary)?