Trump Rally and Possible Shooting or Explosions?

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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:29 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:31 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:53 am Certainly some intriguing questions. I guy with very little money is able to fly abroad multiple times, live in Hawaii, not pay child support, investigated by all the three letter agencies, etc.....and he roams freely around the US. https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1836932336463593715
Maybe Hunter Bidens friends in Ukraine were picking up his meal tab? :D
In a scheme hatched at a DC area pizza parlor, owned by Obama shell corporations and funneled through Eric Holder’s law firm?
The one thing about grifters, they come in 2 political flavors to choose. :roll: I'm still baffled about what a crackhead like Hunter could bring to the Burisma table? He was reimbursed rather well for doing nothing. He served the " big guy" well. Was the big guy just a figment of his imagination?
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PizzaSnake wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:46 pm
DMac wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:29 pm Your and you're are not synonymous, cradle.
You've done that so many times lately I couldn't
go without pointing that out to you any longer.
You’ve and you have are synonymous..👏
False equivalence…
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Is this a choose your own adventure thread?
Harvard University, out
University of Utah, in

I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.

(Afan jealous he didn’t do this first)
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youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
A convicted felon breaks laws criminally in order to possess a gun criminally and does criminal things. It's almost as if criminals don't obey laws. :roll:
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WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:19 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
A convicted felon breaks laws criminally in order to possess a gun criminally and does criminal things. It's almost as if criminals don't obey laws. :roll:
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
My guess is he broke into someone’s home and stole the gun or bought it illegally. That’s probably what happened.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:42 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
My guess is he broke into someone’s home and stole the gun or bought it illegally. That’s probably what happened.
The only time it is difficult to get your hands on a weapon is when your a law abiding citizen obeying the law and going through the proper legal process. It is amazing how efficient the pipeline is to providing illegal weapons. Circumventing that FBI background check sure expedites the process. :roll:
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:42 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
My guess is he broke into someone’s home and stole the gun or bought it illegally. That’s probably what happened.
The only time it is difficult to get your hands on a weapon is when your a law abiding citizen obeying the law and going through the proper legal process. It is amazing how efficient the pipeline is to providing illegal weapons. Circumventing that FBI background check sure expedites the process. :roll:
Maybe try not producing millions of weapons every year for the maximum profits of weapons manufacturers.
Please tell us what difficulty law abiding citizens who can pass a background check have acquiring a weapon in most states????
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Kismet wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:30 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:42 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
My guess is he broke into someone’s home and stole the gun or bought it illegally. That’s probably what happened.
The only time it is difficult to get your hands on a weapon is when your a law abiding citizen obeying the law and going through the proper legal process. It is amazing how efficient the pipeline is to providing illegal weapons. Circumventing that FBI background check sure expedites the process. :roll:
Maybe try not producing millions of weapons every year for the maximum profits of weapons manufacturers.
Please tell us what difficulty law abiding citizens who can pass a background check have acquiring a weapon in most states????
Consumer demand for a legal and regulated product being met by companies operating legally in our capitalist society is now a nefarious and evil plot for profit maximization? Got it. :lol: :roll:

Please tell us what difficulty law abidings citizens who can pass a background check should have? Remember, "solutions" which demote a right into a privilege are not allowed. Two profoundly different animals.
The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. John Stuart Mill On Liberty 1859
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WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:52 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:30 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:42 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
My guess is he broke into someone’s home and stole the gun or bought it illegally. That’s probably what happened.
The only time it is difficult to get your hands on a weapon is when your a law abiding citizen obeying the law and going through the proper legal process. It is amazing how efficient the pipeline is to providing illegal weapons. Circumventing that FBI background check sure expedites the process. :roll:
Maybe try not producing millions of weapons every year for the maximum profits of weapons manufacturers.
Please tell us what difficulty law abiding citizens who can pass a background check have acquiring a weapon in most states????
Consumer demand for a legal and regulated product being met by companies operating legally in our capitalist society is now a nefarious and evil plot for profit maximization? Got it. :lol: :roll:

Please tell us what difficulty law abidings citizens who can pass a background check should have? Remember, "solutions" which demote a right into a privilege are not allowed. Two profoundly different animals.
Hooray for companies meeting consumer demand for products that can kill other people...in fact in large numbers very quickly.
Capitalism my a-z-z.

Make them liable for their products like every other company in America if their products cause harm. Because they are ubiquitous
it should come as no surprise that the bad guys have so many of them.

My rhetorical question was for Cradle in answer to his statement about law-abiding citizens not being able to purchase a firearm legally without difficulty. ( I guess you missed that just like you miss the intended point of 2A ). Why is the word 'militia" in there anyway if it is an unfettered and allegedly individual right? NOTE: SCOTUS ruled on this point about militia in United States v. Miller in 1939.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:42 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
My guess is he broke into someone’s home and stole the gun or bought it illegally. That’s probably what happened.
The only time it is difficult to get your hands on a weapon is when your a law abiding citizen obeying the law and going through the proper legal process. It is amazing how efficient the pipeline is to providing illegal weapons. Circumventing that FBI background check sure expedites the process. :roll:
It took me about 10-15 minutes buying my last rifle. Not sure what your roadblock is.
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WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:52 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:30 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:42 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
My guess is he broke into someone’s home and stole the gun or bought it illegally. That’s probably what happened.
The only time it is difficult to get your hands on a weapon is when your a law abiding citizen obeying the law and going through the proper legal process. It is amazing how efficient the pipeline is to providing illegal weapons. Circumventing that FBI background check sure expedites the process. :roll:
Maybe try not producing millions of weapons every year for the maximum profits of weapons manufacturers.
Please tell us what difficulty law abiding citizens who can pass a background check have acquiring a weapon in most states????
Consumer demand for a legal and regulated product being met by companies operating legally in our capitalist society is now a nefarious and evil plot for profit maximization? Got it. :lol: :roll:

Please tell us what difficulty law abidings citizens who can pass a background check should have? Remember, "solutions" which demote a right into a privilege are not allowed. Two profoundly different animals.
Funny that free speech is abridged in some cases, the press is not free in some cases, and the right to assemble peacefully is not allowed in some cases. Even for previously law abiding citizens. All rights in that pesky first Amendment (well, pesky to some) and not merely privileges.

Your supposition is the 2nd amendment should be treated differently?
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:06 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:46 pm
DMac wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:29 pm Your and you're are not synonymous, cradle.
You've done that so many times lately I couldn't
go without pointing that out to you any longer.
You’ve and you have are synonymous..👏
False equivalence…
Yes indeed….er

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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:57 pm
WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:52 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:30 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:42 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
My guess is he broke into someone’s home and stole the gun or bought it illegally. That’s probably what happened.
The only time it is difficult to get your hands on a weapon is when your a law abiding citizen obeying the law and going through the proper legal process. It is amazing how efficient the pipeline is to providing illegal weapons. Circumventing that FBI background check sure expedites the process. :roll:
Maybe try not producing millions of weapons every year for the maximum profits of weapons manufacturers.
Please tell us what difficulty law abiding citizens who can pass a background check have acquiring a weapon in most states????
Consumer demand for a legal and regulated product being met by companies operating legally in our capitalist society is now a nefarious and evil plot for profit maximization? Got it. :lol: :roll:

Please tell us what difficulty law abidings citizens who can pass a background check should have? Remember, "solutions" which demote a right into a privilege are not allowed. Two profoundly different animals.
Funny that free speech is abridged in some cases, the press is not free in some cases, and the right to assemble peacefully is not allowed in some cases. Even for previously law abiding citizens. All rights in that pesky first Amendment (well, pesky to some) and not merely privileges.

Your supposition is the 2nd amendment should be treated differently?
Yes. It's the "magic amendment". Good luck telling him the word militia is in there. NOTHING would make me happier than to hold to the letter of the Constitution, and REQUIRE anyone who wants a gun to enlist in the National Guard (the militia).

Just to make fun of them because they don't REALLY care about holding to the letter of the Constitution....just the parts they like.
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a fan wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:59 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:57 pm
WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:52 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:30 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:42 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
My guess is he broke into someone’s home and stole the gun or bought it illegally. That’s probably what happened.
The only time it is difficult to get your hands on a weapon is when your a law abiding citizen obeying the law and going through the proper legal process. It is amazing how efficient the pipeline is to providing illegal weapons. Circumventing that FBI background check sure expedites the process. :roll:
Maybe try not producing millions of weapons every year for the maximum profits of weapons manufacturers.
Please tell us what difficulty law abiding citizens who can pass a background check have acquiring a weapon in most states????
Consumer demand for a legal and regulated product being met by companies operating legally in our capitalist society is now a nefarious and evil plot for profit maximization? Got it. :lol: :roll:

Please tell us what difficulty law abidings citizens who can pass a background check should have? Remember, "solutions" which demote a right into a privilege are not allowed. Two profoundly different animals.
Funny that free speech is abridged in some cases, the press is not free in some cases, and the right to assemble peacefully is not allowed in some cases. Even for previously law abiding citizens. All rights in that pesky first Amendment (well, pesky to some) and not merely privileges.

Your supposition is the 2nd amendment should be treated differently?
Yes. It's the "magic amendment". Good luck telling him the word militia is in there. NOTHING would make me happier than to hold to the letter of the Constitution, and REQUIRE anyone who wants a gun to enlist in the National Guard (the militia).

Just to make fun of them because they don't REALLY care about holding to the letter of the Constitution....just the parts they like.
Ah, the time worn Militia McMuffin is back on the menu. Over a million served by activist academics engaged in policy based evidence making which bolsters a desired narrative. Please, let's definitely hold to the letter of the Constitution.

But we probably should do so over on the Sensible/Nonsensical thread.
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WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 8:39 am Ah, the time worn Militia McMuffin is back on the menu. Over a million served by activist academics engaged in policy based evidence making which bolsters a desired narrative. Please, let's definitely hold to the letter of the Constitution.
It ain't time worn. It's right there, in the very Constitution that you point to when you want to tell us owning a gun is a right.

You're all like this.....you want 'the good parts' of the Constitution, and want to ignore the parts you don't like.

And for the 1,000th time, you're getting what you want, and none of us here get why you're on here complaining about winning.
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WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 8:39 am
a fan wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:59 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:57 pm
WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:52 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:30 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:42 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:01 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:56 am Strange read from NPR on Routh --> https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/g-s1-238 ... greensboro
More like, read about a very strange guy. Nice that he could, after all this, get his hands on a nice gun.
My guess is he broke into someone’s home and stole the gun or bought it illegally. That’s probably what happened.
The only time it is difficult to get your hands on a weapon is when your a law abiding citizen obeying the law and going through the proper legal process. It is amazing how efficient the pipeline is to providing illegal weapons. Circumventing that FBI background check sure expedites the process. :roll:
Maybe try not producing millions of weapons every year for the maximum profits of weapons manufacturers.
Please tell us what difficulty law abiding citizens who can pass a background check have acquiring a weapon in most states????
Consumer demand for a legal and regulated product being met by companies operating legally in our capitalist society is now a nefarious and evil plot for profit maximization? Got it. :lol: :roll:

Please tell us what difficulty law abidings citizens who can pass a background check should have? Remember, "solutions" which demote a right into a privilege are not allowed. Two profoundly different animals.
Funny that free speech is abridged in some cases, the press is not free in some cases, and the right to assemble peacefully is not allowed in some cases. Even for previously law abiding citizens. All rights in that pesky first Amendment (well, pesky to some) and not merely privileges.

Your supposition is the 2nd amendment should be treated differently?
Yes. It's the "magic amendment". Good luck telling him the word militia is in there. NOTHING would make me happier than to hold to the letter of the Constitution, and REQUIRE anyone who wants a gun to enlist in the National Guard (the militia).

Just to make fun of them because they don't REALLY care about holding to the letter of the Constitution....just the parts they like.
Ah, the time worn Militia McMuffin is back on the menu. Over a million served by activist academics engaged in policy based evidence making which bolsters a desired narrative. Please, let's definitely hold to the letter of the Constitution.

But we probably should do so over on the Sensible/Nonsensical thread.
Militia aside, SCOTUS has ruled again and again that the rights outlined in the various amendments aren't absolute. You can't incite riots and issue death threats in the name of free speech, or peacefully assemble at certain various times or locations or print anything you want in a newspaper.
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There is also a punctuation issue in the amendment.

It is an interesting juxtaposition between the absolutists on the second amendment who become relativists on the first
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