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JD just tripled down on Meet the Press this AM.
Says he is just repeating what his constituents are saying…claiming now that there is video of a Haitian eating a cat…
Amidst bomb threats…
Lots of bomb threats for multiple days. Death threats, proud boys and white supremacists coming to town. MAGA is really trying to start something prior to the election to ramp up the hate/fear vote.
Bomb threats originated overseas.
https://nypost.com/2024/09/16/us-news/o ... r-country/
And gee, OS.....why Springfield.
Oh, that's right, you and your TInFoilHat buddies, who believe everything Trump said. You inject yourself with bleach yet?
Go ahead -- deny that Aurora & Springfield are having difficulty in accommodating the unanticipated (& unsupported) surge of migrants in need of public support. Unlike Martha's Vineyard, they can't call the Governor to send in the National Guard to relocate them.
Just give TdA gang bangers work permits & they won't be a problem.
No problem, until it impacts your property value or your kids' schools or rec leagues
Sell your hate and fear and lack of historical knowledge somewhere else. You and your buds in the KKK have been selling this hate of non-white immigrants for well over 100 years. It doesn't work on me. You think we had zero immigrants in America until three years ago. Neat-o.
Now we know why you don't want kids to crack a history book...you want to tell them that immigration never happened in the US, and that Trump and Vance's wive's families are from the Onondoga Nation, and weren't these same immigrants that you're convinced is destroying our nation.
Somebody gave both my grandfathers work permits upon arrival in America - they both succeeded in new jobs with new skills beyond those they had previously mastered and they both made great contributions to this country despite many natives considering them lowlife foreigners.
So, Saltine...respectfully - Eff you
They entered legally. Good for them.
They entered by getting on a boat and presented themselves at a port of entry. They didn't ask in advance or use any other "legal process". After they arrived, they were subject to the same kind of derogatory name-calling and bigotry you currently use.
So, again, respectfully - Eff off
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Boo Hoo. They entered legally. They encountered the same things all immigrants did, & you're still whining about it. It didn't hurt you, but you're still a resentful a-hole about it.
The Haitians in Springfield are legal also.
The racist, nativism should be rejected as fundamentally anti-American.
Are you sure they are ALL on TPS status. There were also Haitians entering via the S border.
Biden allowed them in,without securing impact funds for the communities where they settle en masse ?
The Republican Governor and Republican Mayor say they are legal.
And "invited" by them. Filling jobs, 8,000 new ones over the past decade. Why do you doubt them?
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-gov ... =113690058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39voRIZciVI
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... rcna171558
Is it skin color again? "s-hole countries" perhaps?
Or because Trump and Fox and Newsmax told you they are illegal?
Obviously there are undocumented in all parts of the US, from all sorts of countries, but that is apparently NOT the situation in Springfield that is causing some stress on social services and housing prices.
IF you are actually concerned about "impact funds", take it to MAGA Congress.
They won't even fund more border agents if it's a Dem Admin asking.
So, blame it on MAGA/Trump.
BTW, were there "impact funds" for all the prior waves of immigration to this country?
Here’s what you cut and ignored with your diversion that “some” Haitians may not be documented versus “most” are legally in Springfield, invited and filling jobs, invigorating the economy of Springfield. Businesses opening and booming in a previously declining area. Paying taxes.
Sure, perhaps this community needs some help catching up with investments in social services, because the declining community had not kept up. And the Republican governor and legislature had not helped… promises coming, but why look to federal direct help before state and local?
But ok, JD, what federal funding have you proposed legislatively for Springfield or any other community?
I mistakenly edited, instead of quoting, bumping to now. Last part is today.
What a bunch of jibberish. I did not say the Haitians are in Springfield illegally.
You don't know how many are there legally & neither does the NYT.
I'm pointing out the impact they have on Springfield, Aurora & other communities where they settle in large numbers, regardless of their status.
There's no way a community of 60k could have "kept up" sufficiently to absorb an influx of 20k in need of so much support.
Springfield is a small community unable to accommodate large numbers like larger cities can.
You're making excuses & denying the obvious. Biden should not have granted so many TPS entrants without securing the impact funding for them.
If he couldn't get the funds from existing budgets, he should have secured funding from Congress before dumping them on unprepared communities.
Baloney. In what other surge of immigrants, legal or undocumented, has there ever been federal funding?.
This community was on its heels, and sought the inbound migration, welcomed and have benefited hugely from the upsurge in economic activity.
Sure, this also means a need to increase housing infrastructure, education, healthcare etc. And that’s typically funded by local and state government, whatever the source of growth.
But we were having a discussion about the lies being told by Trump and Vance, from claims about pets to huge falsehoods about “illegal aliens”.
That shifted to your dismissal of a poster’s family experience with bigotry against immigrants, your claim that his family were “legal”, which I then pointed out is also the status of the Haitians who Trump and Vance are claiming are “illegal”. You tried to rebut with a claim that I can’t prove 100% are legal status though that was never at issue as they are claiming all illegal…now up to 32,000. You then tried to pretend that the NYT also didn’t claim 100%, just most. Yup. But that’s the opposite of Trump and Vance.
You want to ignore the Republican governor and Republican mayor. What, are they RINOs too?