Is gambling good for lacrosse?

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Dip&Dunk wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:43 am
PizzaSnake wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:54 pm
Dip&Dunk wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:39 pm The American Gaming Association (AGA) has projected that American adults will place $35bn in bets with legal sportsbooks throughout the 2024 NFL season.

To mix analogies: feel free to joust at your windmill, the train has left the station.
What was Rocinante's motivation?
On the surface, to carry Quixote. Metaphorically, to be Quixote's mirror. Internally, to strive for what he cannot be.

A poor example in lacrosse of the jousting is the continued desire for RM to be brought back to Navy.
You are our Sancho who would lief leave Andres tied to the tree?

Inevitability does not confer acceptability.
"There is nothing more difficult and more dangerous to carry through than initiating changes. One makes enemies of those who prospered under the old order, and only lukewarm support from those who would prosper under the new."
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Dip&Dunk
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Re: Is gambling good for lacrosse?

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PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:58 am
Dip&Dunk wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:43 am
PizzaSnake wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:54 pm
Dip&Dunk wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:39 pm The American Gaming Association (AGA) has projected that American adults will place $35bn in bets with legal sportsbooks throughout the 2024 NFL season.

To mix analogies: feel free to joust at your windmill, the train has left the station.
What was Rocinante's motivation?
On the surface, to carry Quixote. Metaphorically, to be Quixote's mirror. Internally, to strive for what he cannot be.

A poor example in lacrosse of the jousting is the continued desire for RM to be brought back to Navy.
You are our Sancho who would lief leave Andres tied to the tree?

Inevitability does not confer acceptability.
To me, it is more like, (Attributed to Reinhold Niebuhr) God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
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Re: Is gambling good for lacrosse?

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Dip&Dunk wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:03 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:50 pm
Dip&Dunk wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:39 pm The American Gaming Association (AGA) has projected that American adults will place $35bn in bets with legal sportsbooks throughout the 2024 NFL season.

To mix analogies: feel free to joust at your windmill, the train has left the station.
Whos tilting at windmills? You going to legalize all schedule 1 drugs too since there’s so much money in the rehab industry?
I guess we have a difference in the meaning of the term jousting at windmills. The moral of Don Quixote is to show how ridiculous antiquated beliefs can be to those who have conquered living in the present.

Feel free to voice your opinions and I actually agree with this one. To continue with metaphors, I just don't have the altitude and air speed to battle here. Gambling as a whole is too big, established, organized and desired by too many people, thus the train part of my comment. The drug analogy is a good one but we have already had a Great Experiment and it failed horribly.
what anitquated belief? It's about the impact on the game not the people. Pretty straight forward that gambling has negatvie consequences on the games.

BTW over $100Bn of VC money has now gone into psychdelic therapy. You think that wont be legalized in the next decade?
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Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
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Legalized? I expect manditory coverage in all health insurance plans.
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Dip&Dunk wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:34 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:58 am
Dip&Dunk wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:43 am
PizzaSnake wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:54 pm
Dip&Dunk wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:39 pm The American Gaming Association (AGA) has projected that American adults will place $35bn in bets with legal sportsbooks throughout the 2024 NFL season.

To mix analogies: feel free to joust at your windmill, the train has left the station.
What was Rocinante's motivation?
On the surface, to carry Quixote. Metaphorically, to be Quixote's mirror. Internally, to strive for what he cannot be.

A poor example in lacrosse of the jousting is the continued desire for RM to be brought back to Navy.
You are our Sancho who would lief leave Andres tied to the tree?

Inevitability does not confer acceptability.
To me, it is more like, (Attributed to Reinhold Niebuhr) God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
"Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light."
-- Dylan Thomas
"There is nothing more difficult and more dangerous to carry through than initiating changes. One makes enemies of those who prospered under the old order, and only lukewarm support from those who would prosper under the new."
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Re: Is gambling good for lacrosse?

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So, here's some data -- not anecdote.

Sports betting is bad news.

"Now comes more systematic research to quantify these troubling impacts. Researchers from UCLA and the University of Southern California published a paper this summer in which they examined credit scores, credit card balances, loan delinquency rates and other detailed financial data for roughly 7 million Americans. Using this information, they were able to contrast the experience of individuals in various states before and after they adopted legal sports gambling.

The findings provide cause for concern: The average credit score in states that legalized sports betting decreased by 0.3 percent — and by one percent, three times the average, in states that allow online sports betting. These might seem like small shifts, but they represent averages for entire state populations. This implies that a relatively small group of intensive users — “problem gamblers” — are suffering major damage to their credit scores, dragging down the overall average. Financial institutions in those states responded to the reduced creditworthiness of their consumers by lowering available credit limits, they found. The results were larger for young men from lower-income counties in those states. Meanwhile, states that legalized sports betting saw significant increases in bankruptcy filing rates and debt collections. Debt consolidation loans went up 8 percent by dollar value, and auto loan delinquencies increased 9 percent."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... it-scores/

I guess we shouldn't expect much from a bunch of sheep...

"In many states, gambling treatment centers are woefully underfunded even as the betting industry brings in billions of dollars. Montana stands out as one state that provides no taxpayer money for gambling addiction. The Montana Council on Problem Gambling is funded through donations, including from the gambling industry."
"There is nothing more difficult and more dangerous to carry through than initiating changes. One makes enemies of those who prospered under the old order, and only lukewarm support from those who would prosper under the new."
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Re: Is gambling good for lacrosse?

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PizzaSnake wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:31 pm So, here's some data -- not anecdote.

Sports betting is bad news.

"Now comes more systematic research to quantify these troubling impacts. Researchers from UCLA and the University of Southern California published a paper this summer in which they examined credit scores, credit card balances, loan delinquency rates and other detailed financial data for roughly 7 million Americans. Using this information, they were able to contrast the experience of individuals in various states before and after they adopted legal sports gambling.

The findings provide cause for concern: The average credit score in states that legalized sports betting decreased by 0.3 percent — and by one percent, three times the average, in states that allow online sports betting. These might seem like small shifts, but they represent averages for entire state populations. This implies that a relatively small group of intensive users — “problem gamblers” — are suffering major damage to their credit scores, dragging down the overall average. Financial institutions in those states responded to the reduced creditworthiness of their consumers by lowering available credit limits, they found. The results were larger for young men from lower-income counties in those states. Meanwhile, states that legalized sports betting saw significant increases in bankruptcy filing rates and debt collections. Debt consolidation loans went up 8 percent by dollar value, and auto loan delinquencies increased 9 percent."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... it-scores/

I guess we shouldn't expect much from a bunch of sheep...

"In many states, gambling treatment centers are woefully underfunded even as the betting industry brings in billions of dollars. Montana stands out as one state that provides no taxpayer money for gambling addiction. The Montana Council on Problem Gambling is funded through donations, including from the gambling industry."
Of course. There was no way this wasn't going to happen. That's exactly why the states made gambling illegal in the first place.
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Re: Is gambling good for lacrosse?

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PizzaSnake wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:31 pm So, here's some data -- not anecdote.

Sports betting is bad news.

"Now comes more systematic research to quantify these troubling impacts. Researchers from UCLA and the University of Southern California published a paper this summer in which they examined credit scores, credit card balances, loan delinquency rates and other detailed financial data for roughly 7 million Americans. Using this information, they were able to contrast the experience of individuals in various states before and after they adopted legal sports gambling.

The findings provide cause for concern: The average credit score in states that legalized sports betting decreased by 0.3 percent — and by one percent, three times the average, in states that allow online sports betting. These might seem like small shifts, but they represent averages for entire state populations. This implies that a relatively small group of intensive users — “problem gamblers” — are suffering major damage to their credit scores, dragging down the overall average. Financial institutions in those states responded to the reduced creditworthiness of their consumers by lowering available credit limits, they found. The results were larger for young men from lower-income counties in those states. Meanwhile, states that legalized sports betting saw significant increases in bankruptcy filing rates and debt collections. Debt consolidation loans went up 8 percent by dollar value, and auto loan delinquencies increased 9 percent."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... it-scores/

I guess we shouldn't expect much from a bunch of sheep...

"In many states, gambling treatment centers are woefully underfunded even as the betting industry brings in billions of dollars. Montana stands out as one state that provides no taxpayer money for gambling addiction. The Montana Council on Problem Gambling is funded through donations, including from the gambling industry."
I find being the house and holding a platform like this is the more honest transparent form of rent seeking out there
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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