Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

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JD Vance ACTUALLY SAID THIS ON CNBC this morning "that if immigration was the path to prosperity, then "America would be the most prosperous country in the world."

Who wants to clue him in to some BASIC American History?

We ARE the most prosperous country in the world and we got there with significant immigration over centuries from Europe, Asia as well as Central and Latin America.

In our family 3/4 grandparents were immigrants - 2 Italy; 1 Canada. Only 1 was born in America and her parents emigrated from Italy as well.

Kindly SHOVE IT JDouchebag Vance :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
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Kismet wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:57 pm JD Vance ACTUALLY SAID THIS ON CNBC this morning "that if immigration was the path to prosperity, then "America would be the most prosperous country in the world."

Who wants to clue him in to some BASIC American History?

We ARE the most prosperous country in the world and we got there with significant immigration over centuries from Europe, Asia as well as Central and Latin America.

In our family 3/4 grandparents were immigrants - 2 Italy; 1 Canada. Only 1 was born in America and her parents emigrated from Italy as well.

Kindly SHOVE IT JDouchebag Vance :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
Old Salt cheers for him. They are playing victims.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:13 pm
Kismet wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:57 pm JD Vance ACTUALLY SAID THIS ON CNBC this morning "that if immigration was the path to prosperity, then "America would be the most prosperous country in the world."

Who wants to clue him in to some BASIC American History?

We ARE the most prosperous country in the world and we got there with significant immigration over centuries from Europe, Asia as well as Central and Latin America.

In our family 3/4 grandparents were immigrants - 2 Italy; 1 Canada. Only 1 was born in America and her parents emigrated from Italy as well.

Kindly SHOVE IT JDouchebag Vance :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
Old Salt cheers for him. They are playing victims.
I know which America I want. Or should we, instead, deport Trump and Vance's "foreign" wives so that scared Boomer white people who can't think for themselves feel better? :roll:
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a fan wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:26 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:13 pm I thought you could admit when you're wrong.
Dude. You cited this before, and I told you then, and I'll tell you again because your SO ready to spread your hate around....out immigration and visa system are broken. These things can take YEARS to sort out. And if they can't work legally for months or years, guess what? They need housing and medical care SOMEWHERE.

Because you and your buds don't give two sh8ts about these people, you think it's smarter to not pass a bill fixing our systems, and give us dumb excuses as to why they guy you put in office to fix these EXACT problems "forgot" to spend even on day working on a reform bill.

You don't care, and never have. So spare us your fake concern. You want R's in power. Whether or not they fix things or do things is 100% immaterial. No matter what they do, you're on here cheering.
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There are govt funded NGO's to help them get these benefits. You revert to the classic liberal "it's too hard" excuse without even knowing the facts.
My wife works for one of these NGOs, you moron. I have first hand information. Some have papers, most don't. It takes time, and even you aren't so dumb that you don't understand that. EDIT
All you want to do is whine and complain about the Dems, and ignore that your team hasn't passed on single bill in 20 years that does anything outside of line your own pockets, and mine.

You don't care about this stuff. Never have. Which is why you didn't care....at all.... when Trump didn't even PRETEND to work on an immigration reform bill. But sure, give us more of your briilliant "Dems are doing it wrong".

Life has never been better in Colorado, which is why so many people are moving here. You don't like that we have (gasp!) immigrants here. Great news: don't visit, fake problem solved.
If they entered via TPS, they had the time & the assistance necessary to get a work permit. Since you're so well informed, what % of the Venezuelan migrants in your area entered via TPS, what % as "credible fear" catch & release migrants awaiting adjudication, & what % as totally illegal gotaways ? Congressional legislation is not the governing factor. The Executive determines how many from what country are admitted under TPS. If your community is flooded by TPS migrants, that is a Presidential decision. The (R) Governor of Ohio has the stones to point that out in the case of Springfield. The (D) Governor of CO just denies that it's a problem. Both beg the President to give them the funds to support the surge he produced. Biden just shifts the blame to Congress rather than redirecting available funds, as do you.

EDIT : shifting this to the Immigration thread
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/09/ ... ield-ohio/

The Real Scandal in Springfield, Ohio

by Rich Lowry, September 13, 2024

The cats and dogs may be safe and sound, but all is not right in Springfield.

In what ranks as one of the most memorable debate moments in recent history, Donald Trump said that Haitian immigrants are eating people’s pets in Springfield, Ohio.
No one has yet turned up evidence that this is true, although there is an audio recording of a man reporting that he witnessed four Haitian immigrants absconding with geese from a local pond.
Since everyone is always happy to see geese go someplace else, this call hasn’t made much impression on the debate over Trump’s comments, which, true to form, were the most incendiary and dubious thing he could say about Springfield.

Even if Tabby and Fido aren’t on the menu in the small Ohio town, the fact remains that a place with a population of 60,000 has seen an influx of 15,000 to 20,000 Haitian immigrants since 2020, making the new arrivals a wildly disproportionate share of the population in short order.

Prior to this point, Springfield had nothing to do with Haiti, and looking at the map, a town located between Columbus and Dayton would be one of the least likely places to have anything to do with Haiti. It is very far from Little Haiti in Miami, and it had no pre-existing Haitian population or an infrastructure to provide services to Haitian Creole speakers.

No matter. Under the Biden administration’s open-handed immigration policies, every place in the country has become subject to sudden, disruptive demographic change. We’ve seen it in big cities, where Democratic mayors have complained of the associated burdens, and now we are seeing it in a small city.

To match in relative terms what’s happened in Springfield, more than 2 million migrants would have had to arrive in New York City the last several years.

Numbers matter. No one would care if there were 150 new Haitian migrants in Springfield since 2020, or 1,500. But 15,000 is a different proposition. Quantity, as they say, has a quality all its own.

To be clear, Haitian immigrants (many permitted here legally under Biden policy) didn’t begin showing up in Springfield hoping to filch unsuspecting domestic shorthairs. Rather, they were looking for work in a city that was seeing something of an economic revival. That’s all well and good, but people are more than cogs to be plugged into warehouses or manufacturing operations.

They come with families and with needs for housing, health care, and education. They have pre-existing cultural predilections different from ours (Haiti and the United States are very different places), and if they don’t speak the language, that makes everything even more difficult.

Nor are resources unlimited. Health-care facilities, schools, and the housing stock have all been strained.

The New York Times reports that consultations began to take three times as long at the local community health center. The head of the clinic told the paper, “We lost productivity. We had huge burnout of staff.” It hired six Haitian Creole speakers, and annual spending on translation services increased from $43,000 in 2020 to $436,000.

The school district, according to the Times, has had to hire two dozen new English-as-a-second-language instructors, and several interpreters.

The city manager, Bryan Heck, wrote a letter to U.S. senators saying that the influx is “putting a significant strain on our resources and ability to provide ample housing for all of our residents.”

The Haitians also tend to be poor drivers. Ohio governor Mike DeWine has pledged help from the state highway patrol.

News reports often dismiss as ill-informed or xenophobic the concerns of residents. Their complaints about the costs and disorder associated with the wave of immigration are legitimate, though, and the sense that the town has undergone a large-scale change that no one was consulted about is very real. Who signed up to become a laboratory for Biden’s experiment in permitting Haitians to come to and stay in the United States?

The cats and dogs may be safe and sound, but all is not right in Springfield.
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Nobody's saying there are not other issues in Springfield - dropping this load a garbage on a population already struggling isn't warranted or smart. SOP for you as usual.

You're just a d*ck like all the other d*cks at National Review wishing for a reincarnation of Pat Buchanan or Joe McCarthy. No empathy or any look beyond your narrow focus of your own BS.

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old salt wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:45 pm If they entered via TPS, they had the time & the assistance necessary to get a work permit. S
Great. Then they're all set then. Anything else from your Russian feed, telling you what to think? Because Venezuelans in Colorado are SO important to your retirement.

Like this is REALLY the most important thing in America, instead of you on here, parroting what Putin tells you is important.

Do you like having Putin's hand up your bum, telling you what to think?

Can you name one single "opinion" you have that I can't find on FoxNation?
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afan -- does your wife work for any of these NGO's ?
Poorly Managed Aurora Apartments Offered Easy Target for Nonprofit-Driven Migrant ‘Takeover’

by Tracy Wolfer Osborne, September 12, 2024

Two publicly funded Denver nonprofits — ViVe Wellness and Organization Papagayo — chose to move thousands of Venezuelan migrants, including some members of the violent Tren de Aragua street gang, into run-down apartment complexes in nearby Aurora precisely because those buildings were poorly managed.

In an email to Aurora City councilwoman Danielle Jurinsky, obtained by National Review, Jessica Prosser, the director of Housing and Community Development for Aurora, says she learned that ViVe and Papagayo were moving migrants into Aurora through conversations with three city, state, and county offices, including the Colorado Office of New Americans (ONA) and the Department of Local Affairs (DOLA). The state and local officials explained that three apartment complexes run by CBZ management were chosen to house the illegal immigrants because the property managers failed to do basic due diligence on their tenants.

“No housing quality inspections were completed to check for even basic life safety concerns prior to placing individuals in apartments,” Prosser writes.

She goes on to say the CBZ apartments were chosen because they “had lower rent, lack of consistency with providing leases, and more leniency with the number of people in each unit.”
CBZ did not respond to a request for comment.

According to the same email, ViVe and Papagayo worked together to place “many” individuals and migrant families in the apartments dating back to spring of 2023 and provided, in some cases, the deposit and three months’ rent. The two nonprofits had placed 8,000 Venezuelan migrants across 2,000 leases in Aurora as of April, according to the Colorado Sun, though it’s unclear exactly how many of those ended up in CBZ buildings.
When reached for comment, Prosser referred NR to her communications department. They did not respond.

The nonprofits chose to unload the migrants in Aurora without asking permission from the city or coordinating with local officials in any way, Jurinsky told NR.

In February, Aurora reaffirmed their status as a non-sanctuary city and passed a resolution banning the transportation of migrants into city limits.
The resolution “demands that other municipalities and entities do not systematically transport migrants . . . to the city for temporary housing without the City first being given an opportunity to coordinate such assistance.”

‘That’s a Takeover’
Colorado governor Jared Polis and local progressives have tried to downplay the chaos and violence that’s descended on Aurora, pushing back on Mayor Mike Coffman’s claim that the CBZ apartments have been “taken over” by gangs. But, according to Cindy Romero, who used to live at the Edge apartments, that’s exactly what’s happened.

“They want to say there’s no takeover. I don’t know what your definition of ‘takeover’ is, but there were no managers, no owners, the housekeepers were being harassed, and these guys changed the locks to the outside of buildings.”
“I saw them breaking down doors and taking pictures, then showing the apartments to different families like they were real-estate agents.”
“They had their own electricians, locksmiths, and plumbers, and they cooked in my building for like 50 people like six days a week. They partied all night until breakfast then went to bed. They carried guns and terrorized every lease holder until they moved. I was the last [lease holder] in my building.”
“That’s a takeover.”

Romero says August 18 was one of many days her calls to police went unanswered. “I called them at 7:54 a.m. to report seeing six men with three automatic weapons, and APD called me back and said they couldn’t do anything about it.”
“That was a terrible thing for them to ignore, but they said they couldn’t do anything about it until something happened.”
“Well, it did,” says Romero. “My friend is dead.”

APD confirmed that Romero’s neighbor, Oswaldo Jose Dabion Araujo, 25, died as a result of a shootout, likely killed by the very armed men Romero had reported to police. Romero says she wasn’t close with Araujo, but called him her friend.
“I used to let him go through my trash. . . . I could write a book on all the crazy things we’ve been thru [sic]. And I still helped everyone that I could. I left furniture and clothes and food for the ones with families.”

Who’s Keeping It Real with Citizens?
After a video showing armed men breaking into an apartment in Aurora went viral on social media, garnering national media attention, Aurora mayor Mike Coffman vowed to get to the bottom of the situation.
The mayor explained in an interview with a local Fox affiliate that he believed, based on his conversations with residents, that the property managers, CBZ Management, were “chased off” the property by gang members.

Documented Tren de Aragua gang members in Aurora (@AuroraPD/X)
Coffman even speculated at the time, “Is it an agency or the federal government perhaps using some of our local nonprofit partners here as a conduit?”

Coffman has not yet come back to the public with the answers to the questions he raised. But the email obtained by NR confirms his suspicion: Nonprofit groups, funded by Denver taxpayers, are sending Venezuelan migrants into Aurora in large numbers, and many of those migrants have turned out to be members of a violent gang — a gang that is heavily involved in fentanyl trafficking, according to the DEA.

Jurinsky has tried to bring attention to the deteriorating situation in Aurora, earning the ire of Governor Polis.
“Aurora officials should not be airing their dirty laundry for right-wing media to consume,” Polis scolded.

And Polis is receiving help in downplaying the gravity of the situation from local publicly funded nonprofits: The progressive East Colfax Community Collective organized a press conference to promote the notion that apartment residents are unbothered by the sudden influx of migrants.
Residents of the apartment complex hold a rally to say that the reports of gang activity have been overstated. (Screenshot via CBS Colorado/YouTube)

Follow the Money
According to their website, ViVe’s mission is “health equity through physical and emotional wellbeing.”
In a Facebook post from December 2023, the executive director of ViVe Wellness, Yoli Casas, called Papagayo Vive’s “right-hand.”

Papagayo’s mission is to “influence through programs that foster the development of educational, comprehensive, social and cultural development of the community in Colorado.”

According to an article by City Journal, between 2023 and 2024, the city of Denver gave ViVe and Papagayo $4.8 million and $774,000, respectively. According to public records, much of this funding came from the Migrant Support Grant, which was funded by ARPA. Then, in 2024, ViVe secured an extra $10.4 million across three contracts, while Papagayo received $2.9 million from a single contract to serve migrants; two of those five contracts were awarded to implement the Denver Asylum Seekers Program, which promised six months of rental assistance to nearly 1,000 migrants.
Neither ViVe nor Papagayo responded to requests for comment.

Drugs and Child Prostitution
Crimes and citations have more than doubled at two of the CBZ apartment complexes — Whispering Pines and Aspen Grove — since 2022, while nearly doubling at the third complex, Edge at Lowry, according to the Common Sense Institute, a non-partisan think tank.

The owner of the apartments hired a Colorado law firm to investigate the alleged gang takeover of the Whispering Pines Apartments, CBS News reported. The report concluded Tren de Aragua members committed a long list of crimes including: trespassing, unlawful firearm possession, assaults, threats of murder, extortion, strong-arm tactics, and child prostitution.

TdA now uses the formally vacant units to host “parties” where they “serve drugs and child prostitution,” according to the report. The property manager told the law-firm investigators that “minors are a good source of money.”

The report further revealed a consultant for the property manager was so severely beaten and stomped by gang members that he had to go to the hospital. And a housekeeper was threatened to give up her keys. The suspects said if she didn’t comply, they would kill her or her family.
The officer concluded his report with, “I would highly recommend you guys take two to three friends with you when responding to any calls there.”
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old salt wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:42 pm afan -- does your wife work for any of these NGO's ?
Dunno, what does your Putin-feed tell you?

Any other racist stuff you’d like to share today now that you’re not hiding it, and are doubling down on what your bud Trump tells you to think.
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Kismet wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:28 pm Nobody's saying there are not other issues in Springfield - dropping this load a garbage on a population already struggling isn't warranted or smart. SOP for you as usual.

You're just a d*ck like all the other d*cks at National Review wising for a reincarnation of Pat Buchanan. No empathy or any look beyond your narrow focus of your own BS.

GFY
He's here to troll, and to be a d*ck. He can't handle actual discussions where he doesn't contradict himself with his partisan "Dems are bad" nonsense...so this is what he's decided to do.

I can do this all day long, if that's his choice.
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old salt wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:42 pm afan -- does your wife work for any of these NGO's ?
Poorly Managed Aurora Apartments Offered Easy Target for Nonprofit-Driven Migrant ‘Takeover’

by Tracy Wolfer Osborne, September 12, 2024

Two publicly funded Denver nonprofits — ViVe Wellness and Organization Papagayo — chose to move thousands of Venezuelan migrants, including some members of the violent Tren de Aragua street gang, into run-down apartment complexes in nearby Aurora precisely because those buildings were poorly managed.

In an email to Aurora City councilwoman Danielle Jurinsky, obtained by National Review, Jessica Prosser, the director of Housing and Community Development for Aurora, says she learned that ViVe and Papagayo were moving migrants into Aurora through conversations with three city, state, and county offices, including the Colorado Office of New Americans (ONA) and the Department of Local Affairs (DOLA). The state and local officials explained that three apartment complexes run by CBZ management were chosen to house the illegal immigrants because the property managers failed to do basic due diligence on their tenants.

“No housing quality inspections were completed to check for even basic life safety concerns prior to placing individuals in apartments,” Prosser writes.

She goes on to say the CBZ apartments were chosen because they “had lower rent, lack of consistency with providing leases, and more leniency with the number of people in each unit.”
CBZ did not respond to a request for comment.

According to the same email, ViVe and Papagayo worked together to place “many” individuals and migrant families in the apartments dating back to spring of 2023 and provided, in some cases, the deposit and three months’ rent. The two nonprofits had placed 8,000 Venezuelan migrants across 2,000 leases in Aurora as of April, according to the Colorado Sun, though it’s unclear exactly how many of those ended up in CBZ buildings.
When reached for comment, Prosser referred NR to her communications department. They did not respond.

The nonprofits chose to unload the migrants in Aurora without asking permission from the city or coordinating with local officials in any way, Jurinsky told NR.

In February, Aurora reaffirmed their status as a non-sanctuary city and passed a resolution banning the transportation of migrants into city limits.
The resolution “demands that other municipalities and entities do not systematically transport migrants . . . to the city for temporary housing without the City first being given an opportunity to coordinate such assistance.”

‘That’s a Takeover’
Colorado governor Jared Polis and local progressives have tried to downplay the chaos and violence that’s descended on Aurora, pushing back on Mayor Mike Coffman’s claim that the CBZ apartments have been “taken over” by gangs. But, according to Cindy Romero, who used to live at the Edge apartments, that’s exactly what’s happened.

“They want to say there’s no takeover. I don’t know what your definition of ‘takeover’ is, but there were no managers, no owners, the housekeepers were being harassed, and these guys changed the locks to the outside of buildings.”
“I saw them breaking down doors and taking pictures, then showing the apartments to different families like they were real-estate agents.”
“They had their own electricians, locksmiths, and plumbers, and they cooked in my building for like 50 people like six days a week. They partied all night until breakfast then went to bed. They carried guns and terrorized every lease holder until they moved. I was the last [lease holder] in my building.”
“That’s a takeover.”

Romero says August 18 was one of many days her calls to police went unanswered. “I called them at 7:54 a.m. to report seeing six men with three automatic weapons, and APD called me back and said they couldn’t do anything about it.”
“That was a terrible thing for them to ignore, but they said they couldn’t do anything about it until something happened.”
“Well, it did,” says Romero. “My friend is dead.”

APD confirmed that Romero’s neighbor, Oswaldo Jose Dabion Araujo, 25, died as a result of a shootout, likely killed by the very armed men Romero had reported to police. Romero says she wasn’t close with Araujo, but called him her friend.
“I used to let him go through my trash. . . . I could write a book on all the crazy things we’ve been thru [sic]. And I still helped everyone that I could. I left furniture and clothes and food for the ones with families.”

Who’s Keeping It Real with Citizens?
After a video showing armed men breaking into an apartment in Aurora went viral on social media, garnering national media attention, Aurora mayor Mike Coffman vowed to get to the bottom of the situation.
The mayor explained in an interview with a local Fox affiliate that he believed, based on his conversations with residents, that the property managers, CBZ Management, were “chased off” the property by gang members.

Documented Tren de Aragua gang members in Aurora (@AuroraPD/X)
Coffman even speculated at the time, “Is it an agency or the federal government perhaps using some of our local nonprofit partners here as a conduit?”

Coffman has not yet come back to the public with the answers to the questions he raised. But the email obtained by NR confirms his suspicion: Nonprofit groups, funded by Denver taxpayers, are sending Venezuelan migrants into Aurora in large numbers, and many of those migrants have turned out to be members of a violent gang — a gang that is heavily involved in fentanyl trafficking, according to the DEA.

Jurinsky has tried to bring attention to the deteriorating situation in Aurora, earning the ire of Governor Polis.
“Aurora officials should not be airing their dirty laundry for right-wing media to consume,” Polis scolded.

And Polis is receiving help in downplaying the gravity of the situation from local publicly funded nonprofits: The progressive East Colfax Community Collective organized a press conference to promote the notion that apartment residents are unbothered by the sudden influx of migrants.
Residents of the apartment complex hold a rally to say that the reports of gang activity have been overstated. (Screenshot via CBS Colorado/YouTube)

Follow the Money
According to their website, ViVe’s mission is “health equity through physical and emotional wellbeing.”
In a Facebook post from December 2023, the executive director of ViVe Wellness, Yoli Casas, called Papagayo Vive’s “right-hand.”

Papagayo’s mission is to “influence through programs that foster the development of educational, comprehensive, social and cultural development of the community in Colorado.”

According to an article by City Journal, between 2023 and 2024, the city of Denver gave ViVe and Papagayo $4.8 million and $774,000, respectively. According to public records, much of this funding came from the Migrant Support Grant, which was funded by ARPA. Then, in 2024, ViVe secured an extra $10.4 million across three contracts, while Papagayo received $2.9 million from a single contract to serve migrants; two of those five contracts were awarded to implement the Denver Asylum Seekers Program, which promised six months of rental assistance to nearly 1,000 migrants.
Neither ViVe nor Papagayo responded to requests for comment.

Drugs and Child Prostitution
Crimes and citations have more than doubled at two of the CBZ apartment complexes — Whispering Pines and Aspen Grove — since 2022, while nearly doubling at the third complex, Edge at Lowry, according to the Common Sense Institute, a non-partisan think tank.

The owner of the apartments hired a Colorado law firm to investigate the alleged gang takeover of the Whispering Pines Apartments, CBS News reported. The report concluded Tren de Aragua members committed a long list of crimes including: trespassing, unlawful firearm possession, assaults, threats of murder, extortion, strong-arm tactics, and child prostitution.

TdA now uses the formally vacant units to host “parties” where they “serve drugs and child prostitution,” according to the report. The property manager told the law-firm investigators that “minors are a good source of money.”

The report further revealed a consultant for the property manager was so severely beaten and stomped by gang members that he had to go to the hospital. And a housekeeper was threatened to give up her keys. The suspects said if she didn’t comply, they would kill her or her family.
The officer concluded his report with, “I would highly recommend you guys take two to three friends with you when responding to any calls there.”
'She goes on to say the CBZ apartments were chosen because they “had lower rent, lack of consistency with providing leases, and more leniency with the number of people in each unit.”'

Oh the horrors! No American would EVER make a decision on where to rent based on a cheaper price, the ability to go month-to-month, or that nobody would care that Grandma and Grandpa lived with them.
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SCLaxAttack wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:05 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:42 pm afan -- does your wife work for any of these NGO's ?
Poorly Managed Aurora Apartments Offered Easy Target for Nonprofit-Driven Migrant ‘Takeover’

by Tracy Wolfer Osborne, September 12, 2024

Two publicly funded Denver nonprofits — ViVe Wellness and Organization Papagayo — chose to move thousands of Venezuelan migrants, including some members of the violent Tren de Aragua street gang, into run-down apartment complexes in nearby Aurora precisely because those buildings were poorly managed.

In an email to Aurora City councilwoman Danielle Jurinsky, obtained by National Review, Jessica Prosser, the director of Housing and Community Development for Aurora, says she learned that ViVe and Papagayo were moving migrants into Aurora through conversations with three city, state, and county offices, including the Colorado Office of New Americans (ONA) and the Department of Local Affairs (DOLA). The state and local officials explained that three apartment complexes run by CBZ management were chosen to house the illegal immigrants because the property managers failed to do basic due diligence on their tenants.

“No housing quality inspections were completed to check for even basic life safety concerns prior to placing individuals in apartments,” Prosser writes.

She goes on to say the CBZ apartments were chosen because they “had lower rent, lack of consistency with providing leases, and more leniency with the number of people in each unit.”
CBZ did not respond to a request for comment.

According to the same email, ViVe and Papagayo worked together to place “many” individuals and migrant families in the apartments dating back to spring of 2023 and provided, in some cases, the deposit and three months’ rent. The two nonprofits had placed 8,000 Venezuelan migrants across 2,000 leases in Aurora as of April, according to the Colorado Sun, though it’s unclear exactly how many of those ended up in CBZ buildings.
When reached for comment, Prosser referred NR to her communications department. They did not respond.

The nonprofits chose to unload the migrants in Aurora without asking permission from the city or coordinating with local officials in any way, Jurinsky told NR.

In February, Aurora reaffirmed their status as a non-sanctuary city and passed a resolution banning the transportation of migrants into city limits.
The resolution “demands that other municipalities and entities do not systematically transport migrants . . . to the city for temporary housing without the City first being given an opportunity to coordinate such assistance.”

‘That’s a Takeover’
Colorado governor Jared Polis and local progressives have tried to downplay the chaos and violence that’s descended on Aurora, pushing back on Mayor Mike Coffman’s claim that the CBZ apartments have been “taken over” by gangs. But, according to Cindy Romero, who used to live at the Edge apartments, that’s exactly what’s happened.

“They want to say there’s no takeover. I don’t know what your definition of ‘takeover’ is, but there were no managers, no owners, the housekeepers were being harassed, and these guys changed the locks to the outside of buildings.”
“I saw them breaking down doors and taking pictures, then showing the apartments to different families like they were real-estate agents.”
“They had their own electricians, locksmiths, and plumbers, and they cooked in my building for like 50 people like six days a week. They partied all night until breakfast then went to bed. They carried guns and terrorized every lease holder until they moved. I was the last [lease holder] in my building.”
“That’s a takeover.”

Romero says August 18 was one of many days her calls to police went unanswered. “I called them at 7:54 a.m. to report seeing six men with three automatic weapons, and APD called me back and said they couldn’t do anything about it.”
“That was a terrible thing for them to ignore, but they said they couldn’t do anything about it until something happened.”
“Well, it did,” says Romero. “My friend is dead.”

APD confirmed that Romero’s neighbor, Oswaldo Jose Dabion Araujo, 25, died as a result of a shootout, likely killed by the very armed men Romero had reported to police. Romero says she wasn’t close with Araujo, but called him her friend.
“I used to let him go through my trash. . . . I could write a book on all the crazy things we’ve been thru [sic]. And I still helped everyone that I could. I left furniture and clothes and food for the ones with families.”

Who’s Keeping It Real with Citizens?
After a video showing armed men breaking into an apartment in Aurora went viral on social media, garnering national media attention, Aurora mayor Mike Coffman vowed to get to the bottom of the situation.
The mayor explained in an interview with a local Fox affiliate that he believed, based on his conversations with residents, that the property managers, CBZ Management, were “chased off” the property by gang members.

Documented Tren de Aragua gang members in Aurora (@AuroraPD/X)
Coffman even speculated at the time, “Is it an agency or the federal government perhaps using some of our local nonprofit partners here as a conduit?”

Coffman has not yet come back to the public with the answers to the questions he raised. But the email obtained by NR confirms his suspicion: Nonprofit groups, funded by Denver taxpayers, are sending Venezuelan migrants into Aurora in large numbers, and many of those migrants have turned out to be members of a violent gang — a gang that is heavily involved in fentanyl trafficking, according to the DEA.

Jurinsky has tried to bring attention to the deteriorating situation in Aurora, earning the ire of Governor Polis.
“Aurora officials should not be airing their dirty laundry for right-wing media to consume,” Polis scolded.

And Polis is receiving help in downplaying the gravity of the situation from local publicly funded nonprofits: The progressive East Colfax Community Collective organized a press conference to promote the notion that apartment residents are unbothered by the sudden influx of migrants.
Residents of the apartment complex hold a rally to say that the reports of gang activity have been overstated. (Screenshot via CBS Colorado/YouTube)

Follow the Money
According to their website, ViVe’s mission is “health equity through physical and emotional wellbeing.”
In a Facebook post from December 2023, the executive director of ViVe Wellness, Yoli Casas, called Papagayo Vive’s “right-hand.”

Papagayo’s mission is to “influence through programs that foster the development of educational, comprehensive, social and cultural development of the community in Colorado.”

According to an article by City Journal, between 2023 and 2024, the city of Denver gave ViVe and Papagayo $4.8 million and $774,000, respectively. According to public records, much of this funding came from the Migrant Support Grant, which was funded by ARPA. Then, in 2024, ViVe secured an extra $10.4 million across three contracts, while Papagayo received $2.9 million from a single contract to serve migrants; two of those five contracts were awarded to implement the Denver Asylum Seekers Program, which promised six months of rental assistance to nearly 1,000 migrants.
Neither ViVe nor Papagayo responded to requests for comment.

Drugs and Child Prostitution
Crimes and citations have more than doubled at two of the CBZ apartment complexes — Whispering Pines and Aspen Grove — since 2022, while nearly doubling at the third complex, Edge at Lowry, according to the Common Sense Institute, a non-partisan think tank.

The owner of the apartments hired a Colorado law firm to investigate the alleged gang takeover of the Whispering Pines Apartments, CBS News reported. The report concluded Tren de Aragua members committed a long list of crimes including: trespassing, unlawful firearm possession, assaults, threats of murder, extortion, strong-arm tactics, and child prostitution.

TdA now uses the formally vacant units to host “parties” where they “serve drugs and child prostitution,” according to the report. The property manager told the law-firm investigators that “minors are a good source of money.”

The report further revealed a consultant for the property manager was so severely beaten and stomped by gang members that he had to go to the hospital. And a housekeeper was threatened to give up her keys. The suspects said if she didn’t comply, they would kill her or her family.
The officer concluded his report with, “I would highly recommend you guys take two to three friends with you when responding to any calls there.”
'She goes on to say the CBZ apartments were chosen because they “had lower rent, lack of consistency with providing leases, and more leniency with the number of people in each unit.”'

Oh the horrors! No American would EVER make a decision on where to rent based on a cheaper price, the ability to go month-to-month, or that nobody would care that Grandma and Grandpa lived with them.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:53 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:05 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:42 pm afan -- does your wife work for any of these NGO's ?
Poorly Managed Aurora Apartments Offered Easy Target for Nonprofit-Driven Migrant ‘Takeover’

by Tracy Wolfer Osborne, September 12, 2024

Two publicly funded Denver nonprofits — ViVe Wellness and Organization Papagayo — chose to move thousands of Venezuelan migrants, including some members of the violent Tren de Aragua street gang, into run-down apartment complexes in nearby Aurora precisely because those buildings were poorly managed.

In an email to Aurora City councilwoman Danielle Jurinsky, obtained by National Review, Jessica Prosser, the director of Housing and Community Development for Aurora, says she learned that ViVe and Papagayo were moving migrants into Aurora through conversations with three city, state, and county offices, including the Colorado Office of New Americans (ONA) and the Department of Local Affairs (DOLA). The state and local officials explained that three apartment complexes run by CBZ management were chosen to house the illegal immigrants because the property managers failed to do basic due diligence on their tenants.

“No housing quality inspections were completed to check for even basic life safety concerns prior to placing individuals in apartments,” Prosser writes.

She goes on to say the CBZ apartments were chosen because they “had lower rent, lack of consistency with providing leases, and more leniency with the number of people in each unit.”
CBZ did not respond to a request for comment.

According to the same email, ViVe and Papagayo worked together to place “many” individuals and migrant families in the apartments dating back to spring of 2023 and provided, in some cases, the deposit and three months’ rent. The two nonprofits had placed 8,000 Venezuelan migrants across 2,000 leases in Aurora as of April, according to the Colorado Sun, though it’s unclear exactly how many of those ended up in CBZ buildings.
When reached for comment, Prosser referred NR to her communications department. They did not respond.

The nonprofits chose to unload the migrants in Aurora without asking permission from the city or coordinating with local officials in any way, Jurinsky told NR.

In February, Aurora reaffirmed their status as a non-sanctuary city and passed a resolution banning the transportation of migrants into city limits.
The resolution “demands that other municipalities and entities do not systematically transport migrants . . . to the city for temporary housing without the City first being given an opportunity to coordinate such assistance.”

‘That’s a Takeover’
Colorado governor Jared Polis and local progressives have tried to downplay the chaos and violence that’s descended on Aurora, pushing back on Mayor Mike Coffman’s claim that the CBZ apartments have been “taken over” by gangs. But, according to Cindy Romero, who used to live at the Edge apartments, that’s exactly what’s happened.

“They want to say there’s no takeover. I don’t know what your definition of ‘takeover’ is, but there were no managers, no owners, the housekeepers were being harassed, and these guys changed the locks to the outside of buildings.”
“I saw them breaking down doors and taking pictures, then showing the apartments to different families like they were real-estate agents.”
“They had their own electricians, locksmiths, and plumbers, and they cooked in my building for like 50 people like six days a week. They partied all night until breakfast then went to bed. They carried guns and terrorized every lease holder until they moved. I was the last [lease holder] in my building.”
“That’s a takeover.”

Romero says August 18 was one of many days her calls to police went unanswered. “I called them at 7:54 a.m. to report seeing six men with three automatic weapons, and APD called me back and said they couldn’t do anything about it.”
“That was a terrible thing for them to ignore, but they said they couldn’t do anything about it until something happened.”
“Well, it did,” says Romero. “My friend is dead.”

APD confirmed that Romero’s neighbor, Oswaldo Jose Dabion Araujo, 25, died as a result of a shootout, likely killed by the very armed men Romero had reported to police. Romero says she wasn’t close with Araujo, but called him her friend.
“I used to let him go through my trash. . . . I could write a book on all the crazy things we’ve been thru [sic]. And I still helped everyone that I could. I left furniture and clothes and food for the ones with families.”

Who’s Keeping It Real with Citizens?
After a video showing armed men breaking into an apartment in Aurora went viral on social media, garnering national media attention, Aurora mayor Mike Coffman vowed to get to the bottom of the situation.
The mayor explained in an interview with a local Fox affiliate that he believed, based on his conversations with residents, that the property managers, CBZ Management, were “chased off” the property by gang members.

Documented Tren de Aragua gang members in Aurora (@AuroraPD/X)
Coffman even speculated at the time, “Is it an agency or the federal government perhaps using some of our local nonprofit partners here as a conduit?”

Coffman has not yet come back to the public with the answers to the questions he raised. But the email obtained by NR confirms his suspicion: Nonprofit groups, funded by Denver taxpayers, are sending Venezuelan migrants into Aurora in large numbers, and many of those migrants have turned out to be members of a violent gang — a gang that is heavily involved in fentanyl trafficking, according to the DEA.

Jurinsky has tried to bring attention to the deteriorating situation in Aurora, earning the ire of Governor Polis.
“Aurora officials should not be airing their dirty laundry for right-wing media to consume,” Polis scolded.

And Polis is receiving help in downplaying the gravity of the situation from local publicly funded nonprofits: The progressive East Colfax Community Collective organized a press conference to promote the notion that apartment residents are unbothered by the sudden influx of migrants.
Residents of the apartment complex hold a rally to say that the reports of gang activity have been overstated. (Screenshot via CBS Colorado/YouTube)

Follow the Money
According to their website, ViVe’s mission is “health equity through physical and emotional wellbeing.”
In a Facebook post from December 2023, the executive director of ViVe Wellness, Yoli Casas, called Papagayo Vive’s “right-hand.”

Papagayo’s mission is to “influence through programs that foster the development of educational, comprehensive, social and cultural development of the community in Colorado.”

According to an article by City Journal, between 2023 and 2024, the city of Denver gave ViVe and Papagayo $4.8 million and $774,000, respectively. According to public records, much of this funding came from the Migrant Support Grant, which was funded by ARPA. Then, in 2024, ViVe secured an extra $10.4 million across three contracts, while Papagayo received $2.9 million from a single contract to serve migrants; two of those five contracts were awarded to implement the Denver Asylum Seekers Program, which promised six months of rental assistance to nearly 1,000 migrants.
Neither ViVe nor Papagayo responded to requests for comment.

Drugs and Child Prostitution
Crimes and citations have more than doubled at two of the CBZ apartment complexes — Whispering Pines and Aspen Grove — since 2022, while nearly doubling at the third complex, Edge at Lowry, according to the Common Sense Institute, a non-partisan think tank.

The owner of the apartments hired a Colorado law firm to investigate the alleged gang takeover of the Whispering Pines Apartments, CBS News reported. The report concluded Tren de Aragua members committed a long list of crimes including: trespassing, unlawful firearm possession, assaults, threats of murder, extortion, strong-arm tactics, and child prostitution.

TdA now uses the formally vacant units to host “parties” where they “serve drugs and child prostitution,” according to the report. The property manager told the law-firm investigators that “minors are a good source of money.”

The report further revealed a consultant for the property manager was so severely beaten and stomped by gang members that he had to go to the hospital. And a housekeeper was threatened to give up her keys. The suspects said if she didn’t comply, they would kill her or her family.
The officer concluded his report with, “I would highly recommend you guys take two to three friends with you when responding to any calls there.”
'She goes on to say the CBZ apartments were chosen because they “had lower rent, lack of consistency with providing leases, and more leniency with the number of people in each unit.”'

Oh the horrors! No American would EVER make a decision on where to rent based on a cheaper price, the ability to go month-to-month, or that nobody would care that Grandma and Grandpa lived with them.
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From 2 years ago. Can't say you weren't warned.

https://www.wsj.com/video/series/wonder ... dctr__pos1
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Open Border App Express :

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mexica ... tion-issue
The Mexican government has started busing migrants to the U.S. border if they have appointments under a controversial use of a phone app implemented by the Biden administration that allows migrants to be paroled into the U.S.

The Mexican National Institute of Migration posted the video of what it said was the first bus transporting "foreigners" from Tapachula, in the south of the country near Guatemala, to Reynosa near the U.S. border. It said that migrants will attend their appointments scheduled via the CBP One app. It is part of an "Emerging Safe Mobility Corridor" launched by the Mexican government last month.

The CBP One app was expanded during the Biden administration to allow up to 1,450 migrants per day to schedule an appointment at a U.S. port of entry to be paroled into the U.S. if they meet certain conditions. The app also allows them to upload documents ahead of that appointment.

The Biden administration has said that the app is a key part of its migration strategy, which involves increasing funding to the border while expanding "lawful" migration pathways. It has also used the app to allow up to 30,000 nationals from four countries to fly directly into the U.S. after being approved.

But Republicans have accused the administration of abusing humanitarian parole, which is supposed to be used on a case-by-case basis for urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit. They have said that the administration is waving in migrants quasi-legally, and have pointed to numbers suggesting that over 95% of migrants who schedule an appointment are allowed in.

The Mexican government announced in a press release last month the plan to transport foreigners to the U.S. border as part of a "safe mobility corridor." Mexico said it will issue a temporary 20-day visa for those with a confirmed CBP One appointment, and give them transportation as well as food.

The app recently came under fire from a DHS Inspector General report, which found issues with vetting among other problems with the app.
"Although CBP uses biographic and biometric information submitted to CBP One to determine whether arriving noncitizens have derogatory records, it does not leverage the information to identify suspicious trends as part of its pre-arrival vetting procedures," the report said.
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I can't wait for Trump to do nothing about illegal immigration a second time if elected.
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Kismet wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 7:04 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:53 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:05 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:42 pm afan -- does your wife work for any of these NGO's ?
Poorly Managed Aurora Apartments Offered Easy Target for Nonprofit-Driven Migrant ‘Takeover’

by Tracy Wolfer Osborne, September 12, 2024

Two publicly funded Denver nonprofits — ViVe Wellness and Organization Papagayo — chose to move thousands of Venezuelan migrants, including some members of the violent Tren de Aragua street gang, into run-down apartment complexes in nearby Aurora precisely because those buildings were poorly managed.

In an email to Aurora City councilwoman Danielle Jurinsky, obtained by National Review, Jessica Prosser, the director of Housing and Community Development for Aurora, says she learned that ViVe and Papagayo were moving migrants into Aurora through conversations with three city, state, and county offices, including the Colorado Office of New Americans (ONA) and the Department of Local Affairs (DOLA). The state and local officials explained that three apartment complexes run by CBZ management were chosen to house the illegal immigrants because the property managers failed to do basic due diligence on their tenants.

“No housing quality inspections were completed to check for even basic life safety concerns prior to placing individuals in apartments,” Prosser writes.

She goes on to say the CBZ apartments were chosen because they “had lower rent, lack of consistency with providing leases, and more leniency with the number of people in each unit.”
CBZ did not respond to a request for comment.

According to the same email, ViVe and Papagayo worked together to place “many” individuals and migrant families in the apartments dating back to spring of 2023 and provided, in some cases, the deposit and three months’ rent. The two nonprofits had placed 8,000 Venezuelan migrants across 2,000 leases in Aurora as of April, according to the Colorado Sun, though it’s unclear exactly how many of those ended up in CBZ buildings.
When reached for comment, Prosser referred NR to her communications department. They did not respond.

The nonprofits chose to unload the migrants in Aurora without asking permission from the city or coordinating with local officials in any way, Jurinsky told NR.

In February, Aurora reaffirmed their status as a non-sanctuary city and passed a resolution banning the transportation of migrants into city limits.
The resolution “demands that other municipalities and entities do not systematically transport migrants . . . to the city for temporary housing without the City first being given an opportunity to coordinate such assistance.”

‘That’s a Takeover’
Colorado governor Jared Polis and local progressives have tried to downplay the chaos and violence that’s descended on Aurora, pushing back on Mayor Mike Coffman’s claim that the CBZ apartments have been “taken over” by gangs. But, according to Cindy Romero, who used to live at the Edge apartments, that’s exactly what’s happened.

“They want to say there’s no takeover. I don’t know what your definition of ‘takeover’ is, but there were no managers, no owners, the housekeepers were being harassed, and these guys changed the locks to the outside of buildings.”
“I saw them breaking down doors and taking pictures, then showing the apartments to different families like they were real-estate agents.”
“They had their own electricians, locksmiths, and plumbers, and they cooked in my building for like 50 people like six days a week. They partied all night until breakfast then went to bed. They carried guns and terrorized every lease holder until they moved. I was the last [lease holder] in my building.”
“That’s a takeover.”

Romero says August 18 was one of many days her calls to police went unanswered. “I called them at 7:54 a.m. to report seeing six men with three automatic weapons, and APD called me back and said they couldn’t do anything about it.”
“That was a terrible thing for them to ignore, but they said they couldn’t do anything about it until something happened.”
“Well, it did,” says Romero. “My friend is dead.”

APD confirmed that Romero’s neighbor, Oswaldo Jose Dabion Araujo, 25, died as a result of a shootout, likely killed by the very armed men Romero had reported to police. Romero says she wasn’t close with Araujo, but called him her friend.
“I used to let him go through my trash. . . . I could write a book on all the crazy things we’ve been thru [sic]. And I still helped everyone that I could. I left furniture and clothes and food for the ones with families.”

Who’s Keeping It Real with Citizens?
After a video showing armed men breaking into an apartment in Aurora went viral on social media, garnering national media attention, Aurora mayor Mike Coffman vowed to get to the bottom of the situation.
The mayor explained in an interview with a local Fox affiliate that he believed, based on his conversations with residents, that the property managers, CBZ Management, were “chased off” the property by gang members.

Documented Tren de Aragua gang members in Aurora (@AuroraPD/X)
Coffman even speculated at the time, “Is it an agency or the federal government perhaps using some of our local nonprofit partners here as a conduit?”

Coffman has not yet come back to the public with the answers to the questions he raised. But the email obtained by NR confirms his suspicion: Nonprofit groups, funded by Denver taxpayers, are sending Venezuelan migrants into Aurora in large numbers, and many of those migrants have turned out to be members of a violent gang — a gang that is heavily involved in fentanyl trafficking, according to the DEA.

Jurinsky has tried to bring attention to the deteriorating situation in Aurora, earning the ire of Governor Polis.
“Aurora officials should not be airing their dirty laundry for right-wing media to consume,” Polis scolded.

And Polis is receiving help in downplaying the gravity of the situation from local publicly funded nonprofits: The progressive East Colfax Community Collective organized a press conference to promote the notion that apartment residents are unbothered by the sudden influx of migrants.
Residents of the apartment complex hold a rally to say that the reports of gang activity have been overstated. (Screenshot via CBS Colorado/YouTube)

Follow the Money
According to their website, ViVe’s mission is “health equity through physical and emotional wellbeing.”
In a Facebook post from December 2023, the executive director of ViVe Wellness, Yoli Casas, called Papagayo Vive’s “right-hand.”

Papagayo’s mission is to “influence through programs that foster the development of educational, comprehensive, social and cultural development of the community in Colorado.”

According to an article by City Journal, between 2023 and 2024, the city of Denver gave ViVe and Papagayo $4.8 million and $774,000, respectively. According to public records, much of this funding came from the Migrant Support Grant, which was funded by ARPA. Then, in 2024, ViVe secured an extra $10.4 million across three contracts, while Papagayo received $2.9 million from a single contract to serve migrants; two of those five contracts were awarded to implement the Denver Asylum Seekers Program, which promised six months of rental assistance to nearly 1,000 migrants.
Neither ViVe nor Papagayo responded to requests for comment.

Drugs and Child Prostitution
Crimes and citations have more than doubled at two of the CBZ apartment complexes — Whispering Pines and Aspen Grove — since 2022, while nearly doubling at the third complex, Edge at Lowry, according to the Common Sense Institute, a non-partisan think tank.

The owner of the apartments hired a Colorado law firm to investigate the alleged gang takeover of the Whispering Pines Apartments, CBS News reported. The report concluded Tren de Aragua members committed a long list of crimes including: trespassing, unlawful firearm possession, assaults, threats of murder, extortion, strong-arm tactics, and child prostitution.

TdA now uses the formally vacant units to host “parties” where they “serve drugs and child prostitution,” according to the report. The property manager told the law-firm investigators that “minors are a good source of money.”

The report further revealed a consultant for the property manager was so severely beaten and stomped by gang members that he had to go to the hospital. And a housekeeper was threatened to give up her keys. The suspects said if she didn’t comply, they would kill her or her family.
The officer concluded his report with, “I would highly recommend you guys take two to three friends with you when responding to any calls there.”
'She goes on to say the CBZ apartments were chosen because they “had lower rent, lack of consistency with providing leases, and more leniency with the number of people in each unit.”'

Oh the horrors! No American would EVER make a decision on where to rent based on a cheaper price, the ability to go month-to-month, or that nobody would care that Grandma and Grandpa lived with them.
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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:38 am I can't wait for Trump to do nothing about illegal immigration a second time if elected.
I can't wait for Old Salt to come on here and make excuses as to why it's perfectly fine with him that Trump do nothing, again, about illegal immigration.

He thinks we didn't have immigration, illegal or otherwise, until just 3 years ago. Neat, right?

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