Hitler.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:17 pmWell, he has a plan...or can read a teleprompter
yeah those "massive tax cuts reduced deficits"...hoo boy.
Maybe that's how he went bankrupt so many times, he doesn't actually know that when you take in less than you spend, that's a "deficit"... and ultimately leads to bankruptcy (unless you can print money)...
For those who never read these threads, under Trump, deficits rose year over year in each year of Trump's tenure, and every year post tax cuts it rose significantly as a percentage of GDP. In the last year of Obama, before Trump took over, the deficit was $585 billion and 3.1% of GDP. 2019, 3 years later, pre Covid explosion of deficit (let's be fair to Trump), the deficit had grown to $984 billion and 4.6% of GDP. In no world of rationale analysis did the tax cuts result in a reduction in deficits.
But adherence to truth is not a Trump or MAGA principle, indeed the principle seems to be to exaggerate the lie massively and just keep repeating it...(Trump famously said he chose the GOP because its voters are so stupid)
I did think the riff on sending Harris a MAGA hat was funny.
Want to get further wonky, we can and should analyze whether deficits are or are not improving the 'capital of the country offsetting the growing debt. We did see some growth of the economy in the Rump years, following a steady progression from the Obama years, but did we see major improvements in either physical or human capital??? Did we repair and build lots of infrastructure (or did we fall further behind?), or perhaps did education markedly improve at any level? Did we see big improvements in environment or public safety?
Deficits are sustainable if we actually grow the productivity of our economy and improve the underlying social goods we value, but they ain't if we fail to channel wisely.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jo ... g-lie-quot
"The original description of the big lie appeared in Mein Kampf. Adolf Hitler applied it to the behavior of Jews rather than as a tactic he advocated. Specifically, he accused Viennese Jews of trying to discredit the Germans’ activities during World War I. Hitler wrote of the Jews’ “unqualified capacity for falsehood” and “that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation…. From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited.”
The OSS psychological profile of Hitler described his use of the big lie:
His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it."
Now, who does that remind you of?
As always very well stated. For years on these forums Dick Cheney was lambasted and ridiculed for the very reasons you point out. Who knew that all it would take was saying your voting for Harris and the libs have a mad crush on him all of a sudden. 
I almost choked this morning when Kamala cheerfully stated she was so proud to have Dick and Liz supporting her. It makes me wonder if Dick is thinking he's not too old to be her SecDef? Dick is always willing to sacrifice our military especially if there is 
in it for him down the road. 