Tufts 2025

[choochooCharlie]

Still fixated on Hamilton v Tufts, one game in 2024, as the final arbiter of all things lacrosse. smh

Nah, just using an example of how the recency bias above is flawed. But by all means, gaslight away.

[ILikeChooChoos]

Still fixated on Hamilton v Tufts, one game in 2024, as the final arbiter of all things lacrosse. smh

Nah, just using an example of how the recency bias above is flawed. But by all means, gaslight away.

[choochooCharlie]

RIT having 4 more than Tufts is RIT hanving 40% more than Tufts’ 10. 40% better is “quite a bit” ahead, no matter your fandom. No amount of clever word choices will change these facts.
RIT > Tufts.

This whole thread is silly but that’s some logic to conclude RIT>Tufts. You say 40% more Final Fours, ok, but what % more National Titles does Tufts have than RIT? I believe that number would be 50%.

Not to mention Tufts was not allowed to play in the NCAAs unlike 1993, so RIT had a nice head start…

You guys are insufferable. It’s not a badge of honor that they couldn’t play in NCAAs. Is it really that bad that somebody thinks something that you don’t? Toughen up.

Very reasonable response. Do you know how many NCAA wins the historic RIT lacrosse program had until “this century”? Five….Tufts passed them in National Championships and total NCAA wins by 2011 and the gap has only gotten wider, as has the head to head results, 7-3 in the NCAA tourney. But keep pointing to the 3 total NCAA wins they had in the 80s (2x St Lawrence and Roanoke).

I mean, they lost to RIT last year too. 1-1 in 2024. Is that the “gap” you’re flexing? You’re right, recency matters and history doesn’t. So look, Tufts has had their number for years, Hamilton that is, but it looks like Hamilton has recently created a gap. If Tufts can get over the hump and beat Hamilton in 2025 we can talk then.

[SouthieLax]

RIT-
41-23 NCAA Record
14 FF
2 National Championships
3-7 vs. Tufts

Tufts-
46-11 NCAA Record
10 FF
4 National Championships
7-3 vs. RIT
Lost to Hamilton in 2024

RIT>Tufts

Keep thinking differently….

[callaxdad]

Yale football was ranked in the AP Top 20 as recently as 1971.

[NNELax]

Daly to Maryland to be the Director of Player development....interesting

[Motorman]

RIT-
41-23 NCAA Record
14 FF
2 National Championships
3-7 vs. Tufts

Tufts-
46-11 NCAA Record
10 FF
4 National Championships
7-3 vs. RIT
Lost to Hamilton in 2024

RIT>Tufts

Keep thinking differently….

So we are now fighting over who is #2 over last 30+ years?

[SouthieLax]

RIT-
41-23 NCAA Record
14 FF
2 National Championships
3-7 vs. Tufts

Tufts-
46-11 NCAA Record
10 FF
4 National Championships
7-3 vs. RIT
Lost to Hamilton in 2024

RIT>Tufts

Keep thinking differently….

So we are now fighting over who is #2 over last 30+ years?

No wise guy. Just a comparison of two programs. Could be York v. Lynchburg or anyone else….Why don’t you focus on putting together a semi-competitive schedule this year so you don’t get upset on your home field in the Quarterfinals again after a season beating nobodies.

[choochooCharlie]

RIT-
41-23 NCAA Record
14 FF
2 National Championships
3-7 vs. Tufts

Tufts-
46-11 NCAA Record
10 FF
4 National Championships
7-3 vs. RIT
Lost to Hamilton in 2024

RIT>Tufts

Keep thinking differently….

So we are now fighting over who is #2 over last 30+ years?

No wise guy. Just a comparison of two programs. Could be York v. Lynchburg or anyone else….Why don’t you focus on putting together a semi-competitive schedule this year so you don’t get upset on your home field in the Quarterfinals again after a season beating nobodies.

Less than 5% chance Tufts wins vs Salisbury had they not been upset. Coach D should be giving Coach B credit for the NC. Facts.

[callaxdad]

RIT-
41-23 NCAA Record
14 FF
2 National Championships
3-7 vs. Tufts

Tufts-
46-11 NCAA Record
10 FF
4 National Championships
7-3 vs. RIT
Lost to Hamilton in 2024

RIT>Tufts

Keep thinking differently….

So we are now fighting over who is #2 over last 30+ years?

No wise guy. Just a comparison of two programs. Could be York v. Lynchburg or anyone else….Why don’t you focus on putting together a semi-competitive schedule this year so you don’t get upset on your home field in the Quarterfinals again after a season beating nobodies.

Less than 5% chance Tufts wins vs Salisbury had they not been upset. Coach D should be giving Coach B credit for the NC. Facts.

There was prolly a 10-20% chance Salisbury would win in '23, and they upset Tufts. Good on them. Coach B is a fantastic coach. Last year that number is prolly a little lower, maybe the same given the home field advantage for the playoff. They got lucky the year before and were exposed as frauds who played a crappy schedule last year. It caught up to them. Lets see if they make adjustments to the SOS this year.

[Motorman]

RIT-
41-23 NCAA Record
14 FF
2 National Championships
3-7 vs. Tufts

Tufts-
46-11 NCAA Record
10 FF
4 National Championships
7-3 vs. RIT
Lost to Hamilton in 2024

RIT>Tufts

Keep thinking differently….

So we are now fighting over who is #2 over last 30+ years?

No wise guy. Just a comparison of two programs. Could be York v. Lynchburg or anyone else….Why don’t you focus on putting together a semi-competitive schedule this year so you don’t get upset on your home field in the Quarterfinals again after a season beating nobodies.

Less than 5% chance Tufts wins vs Salisbury had they not been upset. Coach D should be giving Coach B credit for the NC. Facts.

There was prolly a 10-20% chance Salisbury would win in '23, and they upset Tufts. Good on them. Coach B is a fantastic coach. Last year that number is prolly a little lower, maybe the same given the home field advantage for the playoff. They got lucky the year before and were exposed as frauds who played a crappy schedule last year. It caught up to them. Lets see if they make adjustments to the SOS this year.

So you feel Salisbury was lucky in 2023? It was never a game in the final. 2024 was a disappointment for Gulls, no doubt.

[callaxdad]

RIT-
41-23 NCAA Record
14 FF
2 National Championships
3-7 vs. Tufts

Tufts-
46-11 NCAA Record
10 FF
4 National Championships
7-3 vs. RIT
Lost to Hamilton in 2024

RIT>Tufts

Keep thinking differently….

So we are now fighting over who is #2 over last 30+ years?

So, we can have a debate on who is the best over the last 10+ years, 20+ years or all time. We can quibble over which program is more storied than another. Quite frankly, a lot of hot air and hubris, IMHO. Why don't we stop staring in the rearview mirror start looking down the road through the windshield? The era of the 6th or 7th year grad students/super seniors is pretty much done, with an exception or two here or there, such as a kid playing for his dad. Tufts returns 13 of 14 starters this year, the clear Preseason #1 in not only the NESCAC but #1 in the IL National Media Poll as well. Doesn't mean squat! Who else will challenge? In the CAC, I like Bowdoin as clear #2. After that? Toss up. Wes? Midd? The Lord Jeffs? Fall ball just around the corner.....Roll Bos!!!

[callaxdad]

RIT-
41-23 NCAA Record
14 FF
2 National Championships
3-7 vs. Tufts

Tufts-
46-11 NCAA Record
10 FF
4 National Championships
7-3 vs. RIT
Lost to Hamilton in 2024

RIT>Tufts

Keep thinking differently….

So we are now fighting over who is #2 over last 30+ years?

No wise guy. Just a comparison of two programs. Could be York v. Lynchburg or anyone else….Why don’t you focus on putting together a semi-competitive schedule this year so you don’t get upset on your home field in the Quarterfinals again after a season beating nobodies.

Less than 5% chance Tufts wins vs Salisbury had they not been upset. Coach D should be giving Coach B credit for the NC. Facts.

There was prolly a 10-20% chance Salisbury would win in '23, and they upset Tufts. Good on them. Coach B is a fantastic coach. Last year that number is prolly a little lower, maybe the same given the home field advantage for the playoff. They got lucky the year before and were exposed as frauds who played a crappy schedule last year. It caught up to them. Lets see if they make adjustments to the SOS this year.

So you feel Salisbury was lucky in 2023? It was never a game in the final. 2024 was a disappointment for Gulls, no doubt.

Nope, not lucky, my bad, an upset is all. And, maybe a little lucky, takes some luck to win a Natty.

[The12lov3]

RIT-
41-23 NCAA Record
14 FF
2 National Championships
3-7 vs. Tufts

Tufts-
46-11 NCAA Record
10 FF
4 National Championships
7-3 vs. RIT
Lost to Hamilton in 2024

RIT>Tufts

Keep thinking differently….

So we are now fighting over who is #2 over last 30+ years?

So, we can have a debate on who is the best over the last 10+ years, 20+ years or all time. We can quibble over which program is more storied than another. Quite frankly, a lot of hot air and hubris, IMHO. Why don't we stop staring in the rearview mirror start looking down the road through the windshield? The era of the 6th or 7th year grad students/super seniors is pretty much done, with an exception or two here or there, such as a kid playing for his dad. Tufts returns 13 of 14 starters this year, the clear Preseason #1 in not only the NESCAC but #1 in the IL National Media Poll as well. Doesn't mean squat! Who else will challenge? In the CAC, I like Bowdoin as clear #2. After that? Toss up. Wes? Midd? The Lord Jeffs? Fall ball just around the corner.....Roll Bos!!!

Tufts is loaded for sure and a lot of the Freshman from last year will contribute a lot more this year. Emsing, Byers, ITO seems like the real deal should have a lot more points this year which will only increase their offensive firepower. IMO - Don't think Bowdoin will compete this year with the loss of Brynes. To be honest, I think #2, #3, and #4 this year are Wes, Mid, and Hamilton. They are doing good things up there in NY.

[callaxdad]

RIT-
41-23 NCAA Record
14 FF
2 National Championships
3-7 vs. Tufts

Tufts-
46-11 NCAA Record
10 FF
4 National Championships
7-3 vs. RIT
Lost to Hamilton in 2024

RIT>Tufts

Keep thinking differently….

So we are now fighting over who is #2 over last 30+ years?

So, we can have a debate on who is the best over the last 10+ years, 20+ years or all time. We can quibble over which program is more storied than another. Quite frankly, a lot of hot air and hubris, IMHO. Why don't we stop staring in the rearview mirror start looking down the road through the windshield? The era of the 6th or 7th year grad students/super seniors is pretty much done, with an exception or two here or there, such as a kid playing for his dad. Tufts returns 13 of 14 starters this year, the clear Preseason #1 in not only the NESCAC but #1 in the IL National Media Poll as well. Doesn't mean squat! Who else will challenge? In the CAC, I like Bowdoin as clear #2. After that? Toss up. Wes? Midd? The Lord Jeffs? Fall ball just around the corner.....Roll Bos!!!

Tufts is loaded for sure and a lot of the Freshman from last year will contribute a lot more this year. Emsing, Byers, ITO seems like the real deal should have a lot more points this year which will only increase their offensive firepower. IMO - Don't think Bowdoin will compete this year with the loss of Brynes. To be honest, I think #2, #3, and #4 this year are Wes, Mid, and Hamilton. They are doing good things up there in NY.

I'm a fan of and impressed with what Coach Mason is doing at Bowdoin. Haven't met him but know some sharp guys that speak highly of him and like what I've seen from the program. I like Wes and Midd as well, the Panthers always seem to recruit top talent. Not sure about Hamilton, don't know what they bring back. They were a hard nosed, gritty bunch last year! I agree re Tufts rising sophs, super talented kids. I've heard whispers this years freshman class is uber talented as well, we shall see. Looking forward to seeing what Bernhardt does in his second year at Colby.

[Can Opener]

I know that Bernhardt has a ridiculous lacrosse resume, but that is going to be a long slow build in Waterville. It's unfair to compare his first season to Mason, who took a losing Bowdoin team to 18-3 in his first year. The squad Mason inherited had two future NESCAC Players of the Year and a first team All American FO specialist. Mason's cupboard is not as full and the '24 HS class came on board before he was hired, so his first class of recruits is the '25 group which looks fine, but not many turn-the-program-around kind of kids. Sincerely wishing him the best since the league benefits from having strong programs top to bottom.

[callaxdad]

I know that Bernhardt has a ridiculous lacrosse resume, but that is going to be a long slow build in Waterville. It's unfair to compare his first season to Mason, who took a losing Bowdoin team to 18-3 in his first year. The squad Mason inherited had two future NESCAC Players of the Year and a first team All American FO specialist. Mason's cupboard is not as full and the '24 HS class came on board before he was hired, so his first class of recruits is the '25 group which looks fine, but not many turn-the-program-around kind of kids. Sincerely wishing him the best since the league benefits from having strong programs top to bottom.

Great points CO. No question about his pedigree. I have not been to Colby but have heard good things about the campus and facilities. Obviously a great school academically as well. I believe great coaches make the difference but, you almost have to have a great product to sell as well these days. A UNC, ND, UVA, Gtown or an Ivy in D1 are some that come to mind. Great coaches can win with an inferior product and the opposite is true as well. Having a great coach combined with an elite school is a winning combo! Wishing him the best. Having a more competitive landscape, IMHO, is great for the league. Roll Bos!!

[callaxdad]

Looks like Tufts plays Colby up in Waterville Sat 3/29 this year, might have to make the trek to ME for this one!!

[Gorilla Fan]

https://x.com/boston25/status/1837200353000894899?s=46

[ncaalax2010]

Wow, this is not good for Tufts or The Program!