Tuition is cheap! She can hand out full rides all day Their OOS is cheaper than most in state tuitions everywhere elseRelax77 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:37 pmIt may be. I know of a girl who got contacted by Mindy last month and they upped her offer to full out of the blue.spidey44 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:25 pmAh makes sense. Wasn’t sure lol.
Going out on a limb here, I think USF is offering full rides. Based on what we saw on our visit they are going all in on athletics. I certainly could be off base but based on the quick commits, that’s what it looks like.
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Am I wrong? Didn’t USF have a lot of decommits?BigRedChant wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:13 pm USF out of state tuition is listed as 17,3- so without scholarship limits - this is pretty cheap compared to most schools that big time lacrosse. I kinda hope they are offering full rides
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Indeed And so many questionable things But dangle a money carrot and people forgetMcLax9777 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:17 pmAm I wrong? Didn’t USF have a lot of decommits?BigRedChant wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:13 pm USF out of state tuition is listed as 17,3- so without scholarship limits - this is pretty cheap compared to most schools that big time lacrosse. I kinda hope they are offering full rides
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Why aren’t they held to that. Do all new programs get a pass?LaxDadMax wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:50 pmUSF won’t be subject to the 38 rule but everything else you said is right.Dad2laxgirls wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:47 pmSure it’s a great facility but aren’t they already over the potential roster limit with their current roster and their 25’s? How confident is anyone to commit when they might get booted to hit 38? Am I not understanding the rules right?Kleizaster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:01 pm This is interesting for USF, especially after all the off field issues we've heard about the past year. atleast the recruits seem to think they've been resolved.
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Just about 7 I think. Which for the 26 season would leave them sitting at 44 kids. The problem would be only 3 kids are 22s, so if they go and grab a significant amount of 26s, they would be closer to 50 for the 27 year season. They have money to burn so if playing time isn’t a problem, what do they care. Getting a full ride at the beach.McLax9777 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:17 pmAm I wrong? Didn’t USF have a lot of decommits?BigRedChant wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:13 pm USF out of state tuition is listed as 17,3- so without scholarship limits - this is pretty cheap compared to most schools that big time lacrosse. I kinda hope they are offering full rides
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Not power 5. Doesn’t pertain to them. A hem. Power 4 in wlax.Dad2laxgirls wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:36 pmWhy aren’t they held to that. Do all new programs get a pass?LaxDadMax wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:50 pmUSF won’t be subject to the 38 rule but everything else you said is right.Dad2laxgirls wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:47 pmSure it’s a great facility but aren’t they already over the potential roster limit with their current roster and their 25’s? How confident is anyone to commit when they might get booted to hit 38? Am I not understanding the rules right?Kleizaster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:01 pm This is interesting for USF, especially after all the off field issues we've heard about the past year. atleast the recruits seem to think they've been resolved.
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Toby Bergstrom - defense to MdKleizaster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:17 pm Allison Hankins to Cuse
Ashley Egbert to MD
Good start for MD. Might end up being their best class in a while
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I don’t understand the allure of usf. It’s the 90th ranked university in the country—and its alumni base and network is overwhelmingly Florida based. Only 8 percent of students are from out of state.Relax77 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:38 pmNot power 5. Doesn’t pertain to them. A hem. Power 4 in wlax.Dad2laxgirls wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:36 pmWhy aren’t they held to that. Do all new programs get a pass?LaxDadMax wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:50 pmUSF won’t be subject to the 38 rule but everything else you said is right.Dad2laxgirls wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:47 pmSure it’s a great facility but aren’t they already over the potential roster limit with their current roster and their 25’s? How confident is anyone to commit when they might get booted to hit 38? Am I not understanding the rules right?Kleizaster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:01 pm This is interesting for USF, especially after all the off field issues we've heard about the past year. atleast the recruits seem to think they've been resolved.
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Is it 100 percent the money? Is it the opportunity to play division 1 lacrosse?
Because it’s certainly not about using lacrosse as a way to get into a school you otherwise wouldn’t get into. They have a 45 percent t acceptance rate….
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But it could. Non Power 5 can opt-in to the revenue sharing/roster limits. Based on what I'm seeing, I'm guessing USF is aiming for that. Also hearing from some family members that are big ACC donors, that USF is gunning to be added as full members (once Clemson and FSU leave). We'll see...Relax77 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:38 pmNot power 5. Doesn’t pertain to them. A hem. Power 4 in wlax.Dad2laxgirls wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:36 pmWhy aren’t they held to that. Do all new programs get a pass?LaxDadMax wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:50 pmUSF won’t be subject to the 38 rule but everything else you said is right.Dad2laxgirls wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:47 pmSure it’s a great facility but aren’t they already over the potential roster limit with their current roster and their 25’s? How confident is anyone to commit when they might get booted to hit 38? Am I not understanding the rules right?Kleizaster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:01 pm This is interesting for USF, especially after all the off field issues we've heard about the past year. atleast the recruits seem to think they've been resolved.
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I suspect USF will fully fund 38 scholarships. They aren’t building the new football and wlax only stadium to not go all in on the sport. They already fully fund the Alston Award for their players, which provides athletes up to $5890 per year in cash for achieving a minimum GPA, which most, if not all will meet.Relax77 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:38 pmJust about 7 I think. Which for the 26 season would leave them sitting at 44 kids. The problem would be only 3 kids are 22s, so if they go and grab a significant amount of 26s, they would be closer to 50 for the 27 year season. They have money to burn so if playing time isn’t a problem, what do they care. Getting a full ride at the beach.McLax9777 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:17 pmAm I wrong? Didn’t USF have a lot of decommits?BigRedChant wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:13 pm USF out of state tuition is listed as 17,3- so without scholarship limits - this is pretty cheap compared to most schools that big time lacrosse. I kinda hope they are offering full rides
I think USF will start to operate closer to the roster limit of 38. They have aspirations of playing in the ACC or Big12. They need to be ready when conference realignment starts to take shape. I think a player or two will be encouraged to enter the December transfer portal to get them drown to 38 players for their inaugural season. When their 2025s come in they will need to cut 7-8 players to get down to 38.
As others have noted, USF will not be required to do this, but it will not surprise me to see it happen. The 23/24 commits should not get too comfortable. If there are no cuts after this season the team will be carrying 45 players. This will probably be one of the biggest D1 rosters. Depending on how many USF recruits in the 2026 class they could be carrying 48-52 players when that class arrives. This takes into consideration those graduating in the next two years. This is way too big.
The dam will burst at some point. I think it’s reasonable to expect USF will cut 5-8 players in each of the next two years. That will be a tough situation for those players currently there or just getting ready to join the team.
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Once FSU and Clemson leave- UNC and UVA are probably out the door and the Big12 are probably taking 4 more. So it will be a shell of what we know as the ACC.
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Regardless of what conference USF is in eventually - on Sep 1- it is an awesome accomplishment to get committed D1 to a school that obviously cares about lacrosse.
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MD coming out hotAreaLax wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:38 pmToby Bergstrom - defense to MdKleizaster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:17 pm Allison Hankins to Cuse
Ashley Egbert to MD
Good start for MD. Might end up being their best class in a while
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Haha..The Big 12 isnt taking anything from ACC. One conference has a network and one doesn't.BigRedChant wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:09 pm Once FSU and Clemson leave- UNC and UVA are probably out the door and the Big12 are probably taking 4 more. So it will be a shell of what we know as the ACC.
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Maryland is going to recruit very well this year. One of the benefits of the head coach being around this kids for years with her daughter in the class. It also help that said child is one of the tops in the class and can recruit her friends and players she has meet at every event.
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before yesterday, you didn't even realize usf wasn't subject to the house settlement, when several of us explained it to you. even IF the settlement is even approved and a rule is made, it may be challenged immediately. and usf has signalled nada about opting in. your rank speculation here is pretty off the rails. carry on.SweeptheLeg wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:09 pmI suspect USF will fully fund 38 scholarships. They aren’t building the new football and wlax only stadium to not go all in on the sport. They already fully fund the Alston Award for their players, which provides athletes up to $5890 per year in cash for achieving a minimum GPA, which most, if not all will meet.Relax77 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:38 pmJust about 7 I think. Which for the 26 season would leave them sitting at 44 kids. The problem would be only 3 kids are 22s, so if they go and grab a significant amount of 26s, they would be closer to 50 for the 27 year season. They have money to burn so if playing time isn’t a problem, what do they care. Getting a full ride at the beach.McLax9777 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:17 pmAm I wrong? Didn’t USF have a lot of decommits?BigRedChant wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:13 pm USF out of state tuition is listed as 17,3- so without scholarship limits - this is pretty cheap compared to most schools that big time lacrosse. I kinda hope they are offering full rides
I think USF will start to operate closer to the roster limit of 38. They have aspirations of playing in the ACC or Big12. They need to be ready when conference realignment starts to take shape. I think a player or two will be encouraged to enter the December transfer portal to get them drown to 38 players for their inaugural season. When their 2025s come in they will need to cut 7-8 players to get down to 38.
As others have noted, USF will not be required to do this, but it will not surprise me to see it happen. The 23/24 commits should not get too comfortable. If there are no cuts after this season the team will be carrying 45 players. This will probably be one of the biggest D1 rosters. Depending on how many USF recruits in the 2026 class they could be carrying 48-52 players when that class arrives. This takes into consideration those graduating in the next two years. This is way too big.
The dam will burst at some point. I think it’s reasonable to expect USF will cut 5-8 players in each of the next two years. That will be a tough situation for those players currently there or just getting ready to join the team.
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Re USF. I’ve mentioned this before since I think they get a bad rap and we had good experiences with them - they didn’t dick around with us….current roster 39. Seniors/grads 5. Incoming class 8. So 4 girls will need to be trimmed. You figure a couple Current freshmen will quit/transfer. I really don’t understand why USF continually gets singled out. There are plenty of schools that will be in the same boat. I know some don’t think so, but I fully believe they will opt-in to revenue sharing and abide by roster limits (if it happens). And if it doesn’t, the. Low 40s roster size isn’t absurd. Now as Relax said, they could end up pushing 50. For what it’s worth, talking with a friend with a 24 at USF, word is they are only taking 6 26s. Which does seem low with the fast start they’ve had. But we’ll see.
Again, our family had a good experience with USF staff, but it didn’t work out. But nothing bad to say about them. I understand that not everyone had the same experience as we did.
Again, our family had a good experience with USF staff, but it didn’t work out. But nothing bad to say about them. I understand that not everyone had the same experience as we did.
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Seems like a reasonable assessment of USFs situation. Why would they carry a roster of 45-52 players? May not be what players and parents want to hear, but players will be cut over the next two years.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:49 pmbefore yesterday, you didn't even realize usf wasn't subject to the house settlement, when several of us explained it to you. even IF the settlement is even approved and a rule is made, it may be challenged immediately. and usf has signalled nada about opting in. your rank speculation here is pretty off the rails. carry on.SweeptheLeg wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:09 pmI suspect USF will fully fund 38 scholarships. They aren’t building the new football and wlax only stadium to not go all in on the sport. They already fully fund the Alston Award for their players, which provides athletes up to $5890 per year in cash for achieving a minimum GPA, which most, if not all will meet.Relax77 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:38 pmJust about 7 I think. Which for the 26 season would leave them sitting at 44 kids. The problem would be only 3 kids are 22s, so if they go and grab a significant amount of 26s, they would be closer to 50 for the 27 year season. They have money to burn so if playing time isn’t a problem, what do they care. Getting a full ride at the beach.McLax9777 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:17 pmAm I wrong? Didn’t USF have a lot of decommits?BigRedChant wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 8:13 pm USF out of state tuition is listed as 17,3- so without scholarship limits - this is pretty cheap compared to most schools that big time lacrosse. I kinda hope they are offering full rides
I think USF will start to operate closer to the roster limit of 38. They have aspirations of playing in the ACC or Big12. They need to be ready when conference realignment starts to take shape. I think a player or two will be encouraged to enter the December transfer portal to get them drown to 38 players for their inaugural season. When their 2025s come in they will need to cut 7-8 players to get down to 38.
As others have noted, USF will not be required to do this, but it will not surprise me to see it happen. The 23/24 commits should not get too comfortable. If there are no cuts after this season the team will be carrying 45 players. This will probably be one of the biggest D1 rosters. Depending on how many USF recruits in the 2026 class they could be carrying 48-52 players when that class arrives. This takes into consideration those graduating in the next two years. This is way too big.
The dam will burst at some point. I think it’s reasonable to expect USF will cut 5-8 players in each of the next two years. That will be a tough situation for those players currently there or just getting ready to join the team.
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Congrats to Cuse. First big surprise of the season. Shocked she won’t take an ND visit, let alone commitKleizaster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:17 pm Allison Hankins to Cuse
Ashley Egbert to MD
Good start for MD. Might end up being their best class in a while
Not a good sign for the Irish when you get can’t a top 50 recruit who is a legacy on campus
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What conference wants FSU? Miami and UNC much more likely to leave than FSU.BigRedChant wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:09 pm Once FSU and Clemson leave- UNC and UVA are probably out the door and the Big12 are probably taking 4 more. So it will be a shell of what we know as the ACC.