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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:50 am Arlington Cemetery administrators have confirmed to NPR that a report has been filed about the attack on cemetery staff. Would sure like to see it.

"Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate’s campaign.”

So it appears that the Trump campaign broke federal law by staging a political event and photo opportunity on some of the nation's most hallowed ground...and then attacked a member of the cemetery staff trying to enforce rules intended to prevent American military dead from becoming props in political advertising.

Good to hear from all our veterans about this crass, dirtying outrage.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:13 am Nice, right?

https://x.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/18 ... 4508600491
How does he not make people throw up in their mouth?

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CU88a wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:44 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 9:13 am Nice, right?

https://x.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/18 ... 4508600491
How does he not make people throw up in their mouth?

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Trading card $$$ go to Trump personally I believe.

Not a campaign contribution.

Classy!
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Sacre bleu!!

“Beck, also a Claremont co-founder, is closely involved with the Society for American Civic Renewal (SACR), a secretive invitation- and men-only fraternal lodge that has been the subject of extensive previous reporting in the Guardian.

Beth Daviess, a researcher at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey, who has published research on SACR, said the politics represented by the group are “much more extreme than mainstream conservatism”. She explained there are two elements of that extremism: “their opinions on gender and the role women should have in society” and “their views on whether government should be democratic at all”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... right-aide
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njbill wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:49 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:29 am
njbill wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 6:58 pm :lol:

If Joe lets me drive his Corvette, I’ll vote for Kamala.
That would be preferable than going for a joy ride with Joe behind the wheel. :D
Thank you for your conference in my driving skills. I think. :)
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PizzaSnake wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:12 am Sacre bleu!!

“Beck, also a Claremont co-founder, is closely involved with the Society for American Civic Renewal (SACR), a secretive invitation- and men-only fraternal lodge that has been the subject of extensive previous reporting in the Guardian.

Beth Daviess, a researcher at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey, who has published research on SACR, said the politics represented by the group are “much more extreme than mainstream conservatism”. She explained there are two elements of that extremism: “their opinions on gender and the role women should have in society” and “their views on whether government should be democratic at all”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... right-aide
yikes. Well, not entirely surprising...what do the MAGA apologists on here think?

It means nothing that these people have affiliated themselves with such extremism?
Or "they have a point" ?
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PizzaSnake wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:12 am Sacre bleu!!

“Beck, also a Claremont co-founder, is closely involved with the Society for American Civic Renewal (SACR), a secretive invitation- and men-only fraternal lodge that has been the subject of extensive previous reporting in the Guardian.

Beth Daviess, a researcher at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey, who has published research on SACR, said the politics represented by the group are “much more extreme than mainstream conservatism”. She explained there are two elements of that extremism: “their opinions on gender and the role women should have in society” and “their views on whether government should be democratic at all”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... right-aide
Interesting; thanks for posting this Pizza. Over time, you really get the feeling that JD has some kind of deep, but largely amorphous, idea that the world was better in 1952 -- everyone knew their place, knew their central role -- and it would be great if we could all just agree to go back in time.
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Obama's personal pastor, wedding celebrant, and supporter was anti-semite and anti-gov't radical Jeremiah Wright.
That was nothing to be worried about. And worked itself out fine. I'm sure that will be the case here too.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:24 pm Obama's personal pastor, wedding celebrant, and supporter was anti-semite and anti-gov't radical Jeremiah Wright.
That was nothing to be worried about. And worked itself out fine. I'm sure that will be the case here too.
Maybe; but Obama wasn't as feckless and easy to influence as this bozo. JD is genuinely strange, and still apparently in search of his own identity enough to allow people to puff him up to be whatever they need. And he is plainly hostile to women. Just pretty strange.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:24 pm Obama's personal pastor, wedding celebrant, and supporter was anti-semite and anti-gov't radical Jeremiah Wright.
That was nothing to be worried about. And worked itself out fine. I'm sure that will be the case here too.


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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:30 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:24 pm Obama's personal pastor, wedding celebrant, and supporter was anti-semite and anti-gov't radical Jeremiah Wright.
That was nothing to be worried about. And worked itself out fine. I'm sure that will be the case here too.
Maybe; but Obama wasn't as feckless and easy to influence as this bozo. JD is genuinely strange, and still apparently in search of his own identity enough to allow people to puff him up to be whatever they need. And he is plainly hostile to women. Just pretty strange.
Obama had morals and standards, and generally held onto them. When he changed a stance, there was usually a good reason.

Vance is like a wacky waving inflatable arm tube man, blowing along with whatever policy wind he thinks is gonna get him a squidge more power. Just look at his comments over the years regarding Trump.

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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:30 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:24 pm Obama's personal pastor, wedding celebrant, and supporter was anti-semite and anti-gov't radical Jeremiah Wright.
That was nothing to be worried about. And worked itself out fine. I'm sure that will be the case here too.
Maybe; but Obama wasn't as feckless and easy to influence as this bozo. JD is genuinely strange, and still apparently in search of his own identity enough to allow people to puff him up to be whatever they need. And he is plainly hostile to women. Just pretty strange.
True. Obama was always his own man. He always had a rock solid image and understanding of who he was.

This JD Vance stuff does sounds strange. And probably dangerous.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:13 pm Dead service members as props.
Using Arlington and dead service members for political photo ops and props. While smiling and giving a thumbs up.

Trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery

"A source with knowledge of the incident said the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump staffers from filming and photographing in a section where recent U.S. casualties are buried. The source said Arlington officials had made clear that only cemetery staff members would be authorized to take photographs or film in the area, known as Section 60.

When the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source."


Absolutely disgraceful.

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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:13 pm Dead service members as props.
Using Arlington and dead service members for political photo ops and props. While smiling and giving a thumbs up.

Trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery

"A source with knowledge of the incident said the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump staffers from filming and photographing in a section where recent U.S. casualties are buried. The source said Arlington officials had made clear that only cemetery staff members would be authorized to take photographs or film in the area, known as Section 60.

When the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source."


Absolutely disgraceful.

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Some of his vet sympathizers here will make excuses for this crass and bad behavior, too
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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:13 pm Dead service members as props.
Using Arlington and dead service members for political photo ops and props. While smiling and giving a thumbs up.

Trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery

"A source with knowledge of the incident said the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump staffers from filming and photographing in a section where recent U.S. casualties are buried. The source said Arlington officials had made clear that only cemetery staff members would be authorized to take photographs or film in the area, known as Section 60.

When the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source."


Absolutely disgraceful.

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Now, if we could just harness the rotational energy of true anti-fascist vets spinning in their graves.
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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:13 pm Dead service members as props.
Using Arlington and dead service members for political photo ops and props. While smiling and giving a thumbs up.

Trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery

"A source with knowledge of the incident said the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump staffers from filming and photographing in a section where recent U.S. casualties are buried. The source said Arlington officials had made clear that only cemetery staff members would be authorized to take photographs or film in the area, known as Section 60.

When the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source."


Absolutely disgraceful.

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Kismet wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:23 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:13 pm Dead service members as props.
Using Arlington and dead service members for political photo ops and props. While smiling and giving a thumbs up.

Trump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery

"A source with knowledge of the incident said the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump staffers from filming and photographing in a section where recent U.S. casualties are buried. The source said Arlington officials had made clear that only cemetery staff members would be authorized to take photographs or film in the area, known as Section 60.

When the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source."


Absolutely disgraceful.

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Some of his vet sympathizers here will make excuses for this crass and bad behavior, too
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By some your not including me. What I don't know is if he was invited to the grave by the family. If that is the case then the dynamics have changed. If it was Joe Biden invited by family members would the sentiments be the same??
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