~47~President Kamala D. Harris~47~

[a fan]

That sounds socialist, TLD.

I don’t know why it’s hard to say “yeah, we took advantage of government services to fill a need and helps stimulate economic activity”…..it happens all the time. My cousin worked for Intel and had to do a lot of work to make sure the project outside Columbus got off smoothly. Nobody at Intel is denying that the project would not happen without government investment but Old Salt not only claims he didn’t need government help….he propped up the government.

Intel must be propping up the government too. And they pay taxes. After all, if they didn’t build the plant who would? Oh yeah, a competitor.

It’s as if Salty thinks no one else could have done the work his company did, leveraging US taxpayers resources.

I was going to say the exact same thing…..here is the Intel project. My cousin logged a lot of flights from Portland to Columbus….

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... -ohio.html

Doing her black job.

Biden did what Trump promised to do, but wasn't smart enough to do. How freaking funny is that?

[MDlaxfan76]

Then I helped build a small business into a successful GSA, DoD, State Dept, USDA, DoF, CIA & NASA contractor + MD State Police helo base/facility + booming county airport management & FBO + aircraft rental/flight school + aircraft maint facility + hangar construction & rental + air charter operation

Every last bit of it working for the .gov. How does this do anything but make my point? All of it....every last bit....in service of socialism.

Wrong. You've just demonstrated your ignorance of the multiple revenue streams in aviation & airports.

And who owns the airport? Oh, that's right. The government. Socialism.

The County gets 15% of the gross & we eat it when the airport closes for 6 mos for a runway extension. We collect & pay the fuel taxes & generate $$$ for the gubment, dummy.

Why didn’t you build your own airport? All of those entities you listed are based on the government spending money.

Why don't you build your own roads & bridges ? We paid to use the airport & generated the revenue for it's upkeep.

Govt spending only ? ...weren't you butt hurt by Trump's bad pay ?
We flew several charter junkets to ACY hauling gamblers to Trump's Taj.
Got paid up front & generous comps during layover.

You sucked those titties dry. I got off my mom’s titties at 18.

An airport tax is a tax levied on passengers for passing through an airport. The tax is generally imposed for the use of the airport and is one of a number of taxes that are typically included in the price of an airline ticket. Revenue from airport taxes is used for facility maintenance.

Yes I’ve been I involved with airport bonds and this is it.

But once someone uses the term “but hurt” it’s lost and the joke is on that person for being pathetic.

And when I pay the tax, I am not offsetting it by utilizing government resources to enrich myself over and above the tax. Old Salt thinks he built that.

Dumb & dumber. You clowns know not what you speak.
There was no scheduled airline service at our airport, thus no airline passenger tax.
Our business(es) generated & collected all the revenue for the airport.
We grew enough to make it self-sustaining.

How long did it take you to put together the construction financing for the airport? Did you use a search firm to hire the air traffic controllers?

We succeeded in spite of the gubment, not because of it.

If you set aside that the gubment showed you how to fly a plane, and how all those other pilots how to fly, and trained all the mechanics how to maintain planes, and paid for the field, and took all the risk, and kept the airspace safe, and, and, and....

....and paid you a pension and lifelong health care to help shoulder the risk of doing a startup......

....sure. The government had NOTHING to do with your success.

Keep talking. This is fantastic.

You're showing everyone how Republicans think. It's really helpful.

That's what socialism is to you and your party: what you mean is, "I got mine from the .gov, and if anyone else dares to get help from the .gov, I'm going to scream bloody murder, and call it socialism. Now shut up and take care of my pension and lifetime health care from the .gov, and pay for the airport that lines my pockets".

Some Republicans. Apparently MAGA.

Historically not how most traditional Rs thought but this baloney has always been a bit of a theme for people who pay a lot of taxes. ( interesting that they have persuaded so many who pay relatively little to also hate government and taxes) The semi legitimate question: are they being as well spent as the private sector ( meaning they don’t pay them) would? And most traditional Rs figure that government is necessary in areas for which markets work poorly, where collective action is more efficient…Dems traditionally have added … and more fair.

But most all didn’t deny the importance of government nor that their wellbeing was eminently better because of government.

[old salt]

If you set aside that the gubment showed you how to fly a plane, and how all those other pilots how to fly, and trained all the mechanics how to maintain planes, and paid for the field, and took all the risk, and kept the airspace safe, and, and, and....

....and paid you a pension and lifelong health care to help shoulder the risk of doing a startup......

....sure. The government had NOTHING to do with your success.

Keep talking. This is fantastic.

You're showing everyone how Republicans think. It's really helpful.

That's what socialism is to you and your party: what you mean is, "I got mine from the .gov, and if anyone else dares to get help from the .gov, I'm going to scream bloody murder, and call it socialism. Now shut up and take care of my pension and lifetime health care from the .gov, and pay for the airport that lines my pockets".

The gubment got their payback on that investment from 23 years of my Naval aviation service. I was not obligated to use that experience in a 2nd career. There was no obligation to help develop a struggling podunk airport in a rural MD county. The county just benefited because the Navy stationed me there, my wife liked it, I could follow lax again, & we decided to "retire" there. The FAA is funded by user fees & taxes on aviation fuel & services.

The airport originally came about because a few well connected county citizens & pilots wanted a place to base their private planes, so they formed a volunteer airport commission in the 1960's, secured county land & Fed + state airport development funds to build a rudimentary airport for their use. For 24 years the airport just sat there, undeveloped. Several mom & pop FBO's came & went. They had aircraft tie down/parking spots for rent, limited hours for fuel sales, & Intermittent maint services. Nobody made a go of it or developed it.

Nobody did what we did with it. We built hangars & ramps, which will eventually revert to county ownership. We brought in aircraft, services & businesses. We started what has eventually developed into an aviation tech center on a bustling general aviation airport.

Politicians made a play for FAA Trust Fund $$$ & even screwed that up. They built a terminal building that still sits empty.
The airport manager accepted the FAA recommended construction company's design for a runway extension without consulting us, the primary airport user. The result -- not extending the parallel taxiway to the end of the runway extension & no turnaround area at the extended end of the runway, so that aircraft large enough to take advantage of the increased runway length can't use it's full length because the runway is not wide enough for them to turn around on the extended end. A Gulfstream came in because the runway was now long enough to land, then he had to defuel to be get light enough to depart because he couldn't access the full runway length for takeoff.

We developed the airport for the county, in spite of their ineptitude. It just sat there, going nowhere, undeveloped, until we invested our efforts & resources. We could just as easily have failed as those who tried before us. All the Fed & State pols wanted was a photo op showIng they got their share of the airport trust fund pork for our county, even if they didn't know how to effectively spend it. All the County Manager. County Atty & know nothing Airport Manager (with no aviation experience) cared about was how deep they could get their hands into our pockets.

[Typical Lax Dad]

If you set aside that the gubment showed you how to fly a plane, and how all those other pilots how to fly, and trained all the mechanics how to maintain planes, and paid for the field, and took all the risk, and kept the airspace safe, and, and, and....

....and paid you a pension and lifelong health care to help shoulder the risk of doing a startup......

....sure. The government had NOTHING to do with your success.

Keep talking. This is fantastic.

You're showing everyone how Republicans think. It's really helpful.

That's what socialism is to you and your party: what you mean is, "I got mine from the .gov, and if anyone else dares to get help from the .gov, I'm going to scream bloody murder, and call it socialism. Now shut up and take care of my pension and lifetime health care from the .gov, and pay for the airport that lines my pockets".

The gubment got their payback on that investment from 23 years of my Naval aviation service. I was not obligated to use that experience in a 2nd career. There was no obligation to help develop a struggling podunk airport in a rural MD county. The county just benefited because the Navy stationed me there, my wife liked it, I could follow lax again, & we decided to "retire" there. The FAA is funded by user fees & taxes on aviation fuel & services.

The airport originally came about because a few well connected county citizens & pilots wanted a place to base their private planes, so they formed a volunteer airport commission in the 1960's, secured county land & Fed + state airport development funds to build a rudimentary airport for their use. For 24 years the airport just sat there, undeveloped. Several mom & pop FBO's came & went. They had aircraft tie down/parking spots for rent, limited hours for fuel sales, & Intermittent maint services. Nobody made a go of it or developed it.

Nobody did what we did with it. We built hangars & ramps, which will eventually revert to county ownership. We brought in aircraft, services & businesses. We started what has eventually developed into an aviation tech center on a bustling general aviation airport.

Politicians made a play for FAA Trust Fund $$$ & even screwed that up. They built a terminal building that still sits empty.
The airport manager accepted the FAA recommended construction company's design for a runway extension without consulting us, the primary airport user. The result -- not extending the parallel taxiway to the end of the runway extension & no turnaround area at the extended end of the runway, so that aircraft large enough to take advantage of the increased runway length can't use it's full length because the runway is not wide enough for them to turn around on the extended end. A Gulfstream came in because the runway was now long enough to land, then he had to defuel to be get light enough to depart because he couldn't access the full runway length for takeoff.

We developed the airport for the county, in spite of their ineptitude. It just sat there, going nowhere, undeveloped, until we invested our efforts & resources. We could just as easily have failed as those who tried before us. All the Fed & State pols wanted was a photo op showIng they got their share of the airport trust fund pork for our county, even if they didn't know how to effectively spend it. All the County Manager. County Atty & know nothing Airport Manager (with no aviation experience) cared about was how deep they could get their hands into our pockets.

You have a habit of whining.

[MDlaxfan76]

Again, kudos for entrepreneurial scrappiness.

You exploited an opportunity made possible by your taxpayer paid background and taxpayer paid assets.

Good for you. Good for others. Not so good for competitors, of course.

But it’s the arrogant denial that is so silly and sad.

We live in a blended capitalist/socialist system. And you benefit from it.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Again, kudos for entrepreneurial scrappiness.

You exploited an opportunity made possible by your taxpayer paid background and taxpayer paid assets.

Good for you. Good for others. Not so good for competitors, of course.

But it’s the arrogant denial that is so silly and sad.

We live in a blended capitalist/socialist system. And you benefit from it.

I don’t know why that is hard to recognize.

[a fan]

If you set aside that the gubment showed you how to fly a plane, and how all those other pilots how to fly, and trained all the mechanics how to maintain planes, and paid for the field, and took all the risk, and kept the airspace safe, and, and, and....

....and paid you a pension and lifelong health care to help shoulder the risk of doing a startup......

....sure. The government had NOTHING to do with your success.

Keep talking. This is fantastic.

You're showing everyone how Republicans think. It's really helpful.

That's what socialism is to you and your party: what you mean is, "I got mine from the .gov, and if anyone else dares to get help from the .gov, I'm going to scream bloody murder, and call it socialism. Now shut up and take care of my pension and lifetime health care from the .gov, and pay for the airport that lines my pockets".

The gubment got their payback on that investment from 23 years of my Naval aviation service. I was not obligated to use that experience in a 2nd career. There was no obligation to help develop a struggling podunk airport in a rural MD county. The county just benefited because the Navy stationed me there, my wife liked it, I could follow lax again, & we decided to "retire" there. The FAA is funded by user fees & taxes on aviation fuel & services.

The airport originally came about because a few well connected county citizens & pilots wanted a place to base their private planes, so they formed a volunteer airport commission in the 1960's, secured county land & Fed + state airport development funds to build a rudimentary airport for their use. For 24 years the airport just sat there, undeveloped. Several mom & pop FBO's came & went. They had aircraft tie down/parking spots for rent, limited hours for fuel sales, & Intermittent maint services. Nobody made a go of it or developed it.

Nobody did what we did with it. We built hangars & ramps, which will eventually revert to county ownership. We brought in aircraft, services & businesses. We started what has eventually developed into an aviation tech center on a bustling general aviation airport.

Politicians made a play for FAA Trust Fund $$$ & even screwed that up. They built a terminal building that still sits empty.
The airport manager accepted the FAA recommended construction company's design for a runway extension without consulting us, the primary airport user. The result -- not extending the parallel taxiway to the end of the runway extension & no turnaround area at the extended end of the runway, so that aircraft large enough to take advantage of the increased runway length can't use it's full length because the runway is not wide enough for them to turn around on the extended end. A Gulfstream came in because the runway was now long enough to land, then he had to defuel to be get light enough to depart because he couldn't access the full runway length for takeoff.

We developed the airport for the county, in spite of their ineptitude. It just sat there, going nowhere, undeveloped, until we invested our efforts & resources. We could just as easily have failed as those who tried before us. All the Fed & State pols wanted was a photo op showIng they got their share of the airport trust fund pork for our county, even if they didn't know how to effectively spend it. All the County Manager. County Atty & know nothing Airport Manager (with no aviation experience) cared about was how deep they could get their hands into our pockets.

This is all fantastic. What do you want me to say here? I'm happy you did this, and I'm happy you made a success of it.

And stop with the "government ruins everything". Maybe they had other concerns other than developing an asset, like trying to keep your taxes down, and keep government smaller....ever think of that?

You're forgetting that YOU were the government for 27 years. In fact, you were a leader in our government, making choices and decisions all along the way. Were you perfect? No mistakes? And recall, you were part of the only entity in the world that couldn't count their pieces of equipment....planes, bombs, guns, etc. with ANY degree of accuracy. For DECADES you couldn't do this.

Yet you're on here throwing stones at others for inefficiency. Irony much?

[old salt]

If you set aside that the gubment showed you how to fly a plane, and how all those other pilots how to fly, and trained all the mechanics how to maintain planes, and paid for the field, and took all the risk, and kept the airspace safe, and, and, and....

....and paid you a pension and lifelong health care to help shoulder the risk of doing a startup......

....sure. The government had NOTHING to do with your success.

Keep talking. This is fantastic.

You're showing everyone how Republicans think. It's really helpful.

That's what socialism is to you and your party: what you mean is, "I got mine from the .gov, and if anyone else dares to get help from the .gov, I'm going to scream bloody murder, and call it socialism. Now shut up and take care of my pension and lifetime health care from the .gov, and pay for the airport that lines my pockets".

The gubment got their payback on that investment from 23 years of my Naval aviation service. I was not obligated to use that experience in a 2nd career. There was no obligation to help develop a struggling podunk airport in a rural MD county. The county just benefited because the Navy stationed me there, my wife liked it, I could follow lax again, & we decided to "retire" there. The FAA is funded by user fees & taxes on aviation fuel & services.

The airport originally came about because a few well connected county citizens & pilots wanted a place to base their private planes, so they formed a volunteer airport commission in the 1960's, secured county land & Fed + state airport development funds to build a rudimentary airport for their use. For 24 years the airport just sat there, undeveloped. Several mom & pop FBO's came & went. They had aircraft tie down/parking spots for rent, limited hours for fuel sales, & Intermittent maint services. Nobody made a go of it or developed it.

Nobody did what we did with it. We built hangars & ramps, which will eventually revert to county ownership. We brought in aircraft, services & businesses. We started what has eventually developed into an aviation tech center on a bustling general aviation airport.

Politicians made a play for FAA Trust Fund $$$ & even screwed that up. They built a terminal building that still sits empty.
The airport manager accepted the FAA recommended construction company's design for a runway extension without consulting us, the primary airport user. The result -- not extending the parallel taxiway to the end of the runway extension & no turnaround area at the extended end of the runway, so that aircraft large enough to take advantage of the increased runway length can't use it's full length because the runway is not wide enough for them to turn around on the extended end. A Gulfstream came in because the runway was now long enough to land, then he had to defuel to be get light enough to depart because he couldn't access the full runway length for takeoff.

We developed the airport for the county, in spite of their ineptitude. It just sat there, going nowhere, undeveloped, until we invested our efforts & resources. We could just as easily have failed as those who tried before us. All the Fed & State pols wanted was a photo op showIng they got their share of the airport trust fund pork for our county, even if they didn't know how to effectively spend it. All the County Manager. County Atty & know nothing Airport Manager (with no aviation experience) cared about was how deep they could get their hands into our pockets.

This is all fantastic. What do you want me to say here? I'm happy you did this, and I'm happy you made a success of it.

And stop with the "government ruins everything". Maybe they had other concerns other than developing an asset, like trying to keep your taxes down, and keep government smaller....ever think of that?

You're forgetting that YOU were the government for 27 years. In fact, you were a leader in our government, making choices and decisions all along the way. Were you perfect? No mistakes? And recall, you were part of the only entity in the world that couldn't count their pieces of equipment....planes, bombs, guns, etc. with ANY degree of accuracy. For DECADES you couldn't do this.

Yet you're on here throwing stones at others for inefficiency. Irony much?

I had to account for every piece of equipment & every cent expended. What goes on in DC is not what happens in The Fleet. That's where outsiders like you, who shot from the weeds, are all wet.

[old salt]

Again, kudos for entrepreneurial scrappiness.

You exploited an opportunity made possible by your taxpayer paid background and taxpayer paid assets.

Good for you. Good for others. Not so good for competitors, of course.

But it’s the arrogant denial that is so silly and sad.

We live in a blended capitalist/socialist system. And you benefit from it.

The company owner was an Embry-Riddle grad who paid for his education by turning wrenches on airplanes & pumping gas on the ramp.
That's how he got his aviation & business experience. I was a hired gun, who parked his private plane & flight instructed part time at that airport. To us, the gubment was more of an obstacle & hindrance than a benefit. Had they followed our advice, they'd have a much more capable airport from the govt trust fund $$$ invested. It was not a rational investment strategy. Pork for pols & photo ops. They're still posing in front of their empty terminal wondering why they don't have scheduled air service. We developed an aviation tech industrial park for them or it would be a white elephant.

[Brooklyn]

''government ruins everything"


The reality is that we have a system that provides socialist benefits for the rich such as the military industrial complex while imposing capitalist severities upon the poor such as the lack of health care.


''keep government smaller"

Begin by dissolving the Pentagon and military industrial complex.

[MDlaxfan76]

Again, kudos for entrepreneurial scrappiness.

You exploited an opportunity made possible by your taxpayer paid background and taxpayer paid assets.

Good for you. Good for others. Not so good for competitors, of course.

But it’s the arrogant denial that is so silly and sad.

We live in a blended capitalist/socialist system. And you benefit from it.

The company owner was an Embry-Riddle grad who paid for his education by turning wrenches on airplanes & pumping gas on the ramp.
That's how he got his aviation & business experience. I was a hired gun, who parked his private plane & flight instructed part time at that airport. To us, the gubment was more of an obstacle & hindrance than a benefit. Had they followed our advice, they'd have a much more capable airport from the govt trust fund $$$ invested. It was not a rational investment strategy. Pork for pols & photo ops. They're still posing in front of their empty terminal wondering why they don't have scheduled air service. We developed an aviation tech industrial park for them or it would be a white elephant.

well, I take it back.
Kudos to his scrappy entrepreneurship.

You were paid for your skills, developed through education and employment by American taxpayers.

Socialism at work.

And you benefited from his entrepreneurial choices.

Yeah, government, and its bureaucrats and politicians, like any bureaucracy, can seem pretty darn dumb at times. Private, public, lots of people can get complacent and greedy and self-serving, with short-term objectives. Very easy to critique, especially when not in their shoes.

[old salt]

Again, kudos for entrepreneurial scrappiness.

You exploited an opportunity made possible by your taxpayer paid background and taxpayer paid assets.

Good for you. Good for others. Not so good for competitors, of course.

But it’s the arrogant denial that is so silly and sad.

We live in a blended capitalist/socialist system. And you benefit from it.

The company owner was an Embry-Riddle grad who paid for his education by turning wrenches on airplanes & pumping gas on the ramp.
That's how he got his aviation & business experience. I was a hired gun, who parked his private plane & flight instructed part time at that airport. To us, the gubment was more of an obstacle & hindrance than a benefit. Had they followed our advice, they'd have a much more capable airport from the govt trust fund $$$ invested. It was not a rational investment strategy. Pork for pols & photo ops. They're still posing in front of their empty terminal wondering why they don't have scheduled air service. We developed an aviation tech industrial park for them or it would be a white elephant.

well, I take it back.
Kudos to his scrappy entrepreneurship.

You were paid for your skills, developed through education and employment by American taxpayers.

Socialism at work.

And you benefited from his entrepreneurial choices.

Yeah, government, and its bureaucrats and politicians, like any bureaucracy, can seem pretty darn dumb at times. Private, public, lots of people can get complacent and greedy and self-serving, with short-term objectives. Very easy to critique, especially when not in their shoes.

It was a collaborative effort. We conferred on every major decision. I entered with a horizion of 10-15 years & then out. He was in it for the long haul. I changed his perspective & convinced him to limit his leverage, plow the profits back into equity in the facilities & aircraft & we were able to weather any storms & drive deals to our advantage. Word spread & customers sought us out, looking for innovative solutions. I complimented my military experience with what I learned in general aviation, on my own time & my own dime. A dual Masters from Embry-Riddle on my own time. Military education & experience alone was not enough.

[a fan]

If you set aside that the gubment showed you how to fly a plane, and how all those other pilots how to fly, and trained all the mechanics how to maintain planes, and paid for the field, and took all the risk, and kept the airspace safe, and, and, and....

....and paid you a pension and lifelong health care to help shoulder the risk of doing a startup......

....sure. The government had NOTHING to do with your success.

Keep talking. This is fantastic.

You're showing everyone how Republicans think. It's really helpful.

That's what socialism is to you and your party: what you mean is, "I got mine from the .gov, and if anyone else dares to get help from the .gov, I'm going to scream bloody murder, and call it socialism. Now shut up and take care of my pension and lifetime health care from the .gov, and pay for the airport that lines my pockets".

The gubment got their payback on that investment from 23 years of my Naval aviation service. I was not obligated to use that experience in a 2nd career. There was no obligation to help develop a struggling podunk airport in a rural MD county. The county just benefited because the Navy stationed me there, my wife liked it, I could follow lax again, & we decided to "retire" there. The FAA is funded by user fees & taxes on aviation fuel & services.

The airport originally came about because a few well connected county citizens & pilots wanted a place to base their private planes, so they formed a volunteer airport commission in the 1960's, secured county land & Fed + state airport development funds to build a rudimentary airport for their use. For 24 years the airport just sat there, undeveloped. Several mom & pop FBO's came & went. They had aircraft tie down/parking spots for rent, limited hours for fuel sales, & Intermittent maint services. Nobody made a go of it or developed it.

Nobody did what we did with it. We built hangars & ramps, which will eventually revert to county ownership. We brought in aircraft, services & businesses. We started what has eventually developed into an aviation tech center on a bustling general aviation airport.

Politicians made a play for FAA Trust Fund $$$ & even screwed that up. They built a terminal building that still sits empty.
The airport manager accepted the FAA recommended construction company's design for a runway extension without consulting us, the primary airport user. The result -- not extending the parallel taxiway to the end of the runway extension & no turnaround area at the extended end of the runway, so that aircraft large enough to take advantage of the increased runway length can't use it's full length because the runway is not wide enough for them to turn around on the extended end. A Gulfstream came in because the runway was now long enough to land, then he had to defuel to be get light enough to depart because he couldn't access the full runway length for takeoff.

We developed the airport for the county, in spite of their ineptitude. It just sat there, going nowhere, undeveloped, until we invested our efforts & resources. We could just as easily have failed as those who tried before us. All the Fed & State pols wanted was a photo op showIng they got their share of the airport trust fund pork for our county, even if they didn't know how to effectively spend it. All the County Manager. County Atty & know nothing Airport Manager (with no aviation experience) cared about was how deep they could get their hands into our pockets.

This is all fantastic. What do you want me to say here? I'm happy you did this, and I'm happy you made a success of it.

And stop with the "government ruins everything". Maybe they had other concerns other than developing an asset, like trying to keep your taxes down, and keep government smaller....ever think of that?

You're forgetting that YOU were the government for 27 years. In fact, you were a leader in our government, making choices and decisions all along the way. Were you perfect? No mistakes? And recall, you were part of the only entity in the world that couldn't count their pieces of equipment....planes, bombs, guns, etc. with ANY degree of accuracy. For DECADES you couldn't do this.

Yet you're on here throwing stones at others for inefficiency. Irony much?

I had to account for every piece of equipment & every cent expended. What goes on in DC is not what happens in The Fleet. That's where outsiders like you, who shot from the weeds, are all wet.

It's Washington DC's fault? Sweet. Way to pass the buck.


Oh yeah, I'm speaking out of turn here. What was I thinking? And i'm shooting from the weeds for daring to criticize the military's lack of accountability. Right.

This sh(t is on MY dime. I'd like to know that our military leaders can add and subtract and count. I guess I shouldn't be asking so much of them.

You don't have even one ounce of humility or hubris.

[old salt]

If you set aside that the gubment showed you how to fly a plane, and how all those other pilots how to fly, and trained all the mechanics how to maintain planes, and paid for the field, and took all the risk, and kept the airspace safe, and, and, and....

....and paid you a pension and lifelong health care to help shoulder the risk of doing a startup......

....sure. The government had NOTHING to do with your success.

Keep talking. This is fantastic.

You're showing everyone how Republicans think. It's really helpful.

That's what socialism is to you and your party: what you mean is, "I got mine from the .gov, and if anyone else dares to get help from the .gov, I'm going to scream bloody murder, and call it socialism. Now shut up and take care of my pension and lifetime health care from the .gov, and pay for the airport that lines my pockets".

The gubment got their payback on that investment from 23 years of my Naval aviation service. I was not obligated to use that experience in a 2nd career. There was no obligation to help develop a struggling podunk airport in a rural MD county. The county just benefited because the Navy stationed me there, my wife liked it, I could follow lax again, & we decided to "retire" there. The FAA is funded by user fees & taxes on aviation fuel & services.

The airport originally came about because a few well connected county citizens & pilots wanted a place to base their private planes, so they formed a volunteer airport commission in the 1960's, secured county land & Fed + state airport development funds to build a rudimentary airport for their use. For 24 years the airport just sat there, undeveloped. Several mom & pop FBO's came & went. They had aircraft tie down/parking spots for rent, limited hours for fuel sales, & Intermittent maint services. Nobody made a go of it or developed it.

Nobody did what we did with it. We built hangars & ramps, which will eventually revert to county ownership. We brought in aircraft, services & businesses. We started what has eventually developed into an aviation tech center on a bustling general aviation airport.

Politicians made a play for FAA Trust Fund $$$ & even screwed that up. They built a terminal building that still sits empty.
The airport manager accepted the FAA recommended construction company's design for a runway extension without consulting us, the primary airport user. The result -- not extending the parallel taxiway to the end of the runway extension & no turnaround area at the extended end of the runway, so that aircraft large enough to take advantage of the increased runway length can't use it's full length because the runway is not wide enough for them to turn around on the extended end. A Gulfstream came in because the runway was now long enough to land, then he had to defuel to be get light enough to depart because he couldn't access the full runway length for takeoff.

We developed the airport for the county, in spite of their ineptitude. It just sat there, going nowhere, undeveloped, until we invested our efforts & resources. We could just as easily have failed as those who tried before us. All the Fed & State pols wanted was a photo op showIng they got their share of the airport trust fund pork for our county, even if they didn't know how to effectively spend it. All the County Manager. County Atty & know nothing Airport Manager (with no aviation experience) cared about was how deep they could get their hands into our pockets.

This is all fantastic. What do you want me to say here? I'm happy you did this, and I'm happy you made a success of it.

And stop with the "government ruins everything". Maybe they had other concerns other than developing an asset, like trying to keep your taxes down, and keep government smaller....ever think of that?

You're forgetting that YOU were the government for 27 years. In fact, you were a leader in our government, making choices and decisions all along the way. Were you perfect? No mistakes? And recall, you were part of the only entity in the world that couldn't count their pieces of equipment....planes, bombs, guns, etc. with ANY degree of accuracy. For DECADES you couldn't do this.

Yet you're on here throwing stones at others for inefficiency. Irony much?

I had to account for every piece of equipment & every cent expended. What goes on in DC is not what happens in The Fleet. That's where outsiders like you, who shot from the weeds, are all wet.

It's Washington DC's fault? Sweet. Way to pass the buck.


Oh yeah, I'm speaking out of turn here. What was I thinking? And i'm shooting from the weeds for daring to criticize the military's lack of accountability. Right.

This sh(t is on MY dime. I'd like to know that our military leaders can add and subtract and count. I guess I shouldn't be asking so much of them.

You don't have even one ounce of humility or hubris.

You hear one talking point & then repeat it, like you have any idea what really goes on inside. Waste & inefficiency is at the top. much of it in the politically influenced acquisition process. DoD is so huge, nobody can get their arms around it. Down the line, we're given a strict budget that we have to manage within, ...or we're replaced.

[a fan]

You hear one talking point & then repeat it, like you have any idea what really goes on inside. Waste & inefficiency is at the top. much of it in the politically influenced acquisition process. DoD is so huge, nobody can get their arms around it. Down the line, we're given a strict budget that we have to manage within, ...or we're replaced.

It's not a talking point. It's the truth. The Navy hasn't passed an audit....ever.

The U.S. Marine Corps passed a full financial audit for the first time, with the service announcing Friday its fiscal 2023 financial audit received an “unmodified audit opinion” after a rigorous two-year review.

The milestone — something the Defense Department and the other armed services still have not achieved — comes after almost two decades of trying to prepare the Corps’ records and several failed audits along the way.

Do you have a excuse for why the Marines did it (only once, but it's a start)....and the Navy couldn't?

https://www.defensenews.com/global/the- ... ry-branch/

Edit to add: if it's NOT the Navy's problem...and it's procurement? Your Navy brass are MORONS for not separating the "sailors" audit from the procurement side. Because it makes is sound like you can't count boats and depth charges. And if you're telling me it's clean until DC?

Wise up, and do what the Marines did. Not my fault you guys can't get your story out there when you have Navy brass who's JOB is to get the word out on various subjects.

[youthathletics]

"We have to reimagine it for people that look and love like us at the center" Sounds like a great reason to throw the Bill of Rights in teh trash....fu(k the founders. It's my way!!! Quote was form C-SPAN and Kelley Robinson.

And we are are somehow concerned Trump wants to change America?....yet Team Harris does not?

Guess who also has been opining this Marxist philosophy...Grace Lee Boggs and Angela Davis

Worth a listen....I love this type of vision, but to imply we need to blow the whole thing up is just insanity, Davis is a self-proclaimed Marxist: https://www.pbs.org/video/pov-american- ... -berkeley/

Kelley Robinson, who spoke at the DNC, sounds much like Davis. And ironically, both Davis (black) and Boggs (Chinese) have done extremely well for themselves.

This certainly sets up a vision of where Harris wants to go, as opposed to Trump's vision which has been noted earlier and recently by RFK here --> https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/18 ... 9141518835

[a fan]

"We have to reimagine it for people that look and love like us at the center" Sounds like a great reason to throw the Bill of Rights in teh trash....fu(k the founders. It's my way!!! Quote was form C-SPAN and Kelley Robinson.

And we are are somehow concerned Trump wants to change America?....yet Team Harris does not?

Guess who also has been opining this Marxist philosophy...Grace Lee Boggs and Angela Davis

Worth a listen....I love this type of vision, but to imply we need to blow the whole thing up is just insanity, Davis is a self-proclaimed Marxist: https://www.pbs.org/video/pov-american- ... -berkeley/

Kelley Robinson, who spoke at the DNC, sounds much like Davis. And ironically, both Davis (black) and Boggs (Chinese) have done extremely well for themselves.

You're pulling a conversation from 2012 between radicals at Berkley..... and claiming that's what Kamala will do? How did you make that leap?

This certainly sets up a vision of where Harris wants to go, as opposed to Trump's vision which has been noted earlier and recently by RFK here --> https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/18 ... 9141518835

That's great....the problem is? He's LYING, and Trump's policies (how many more times do I have to explain this) did the OPPOSITE of helping the working class...and ACCELERATED the gap between rich and poor.

Trump SHOVELED money to the very coastal libs MAGA despises so much, YA. He had plenty of time to help the working class. He couldn't even pass a freaking infrastructure bill...BADLY needed in flyover America.

Trump showed his cards, YA. And it was more about lining the .01% pockets...which is EXACTLY what happened. The ONE major bill he passed? Massive tax breaks for the ownership class. That's his worldview, and the worldview of your former R party.

And he's already told us he's going to cut taxes for Corporations and the wealthy.

Sooooooo.....what the F is Kennedy on about here?

[Typical Lax Dad]

You hear one talking point & then repeat it, like you have any idea what really goes on inside. Waste & inefficiency is at the top. much of it in the politically influenced acquisition process. DoD is so huge, nobody can get their arms around it. Down the line, we're given a strict budget that we have to manage within, ...or we're replaced.

It's not a talking point. It's the truth. The Navy hasn't passed an audit....ever.

The U.S. Marine Corps passed a full financial audit for the first time, with the service announcing Friday its fiscal 2023 financial audit received an “unmodified audit opinion” after a rigorous two-year review.

The milestone — something the Defense Department and the other armed services still have not achieved — comes after almost two decades of trying to prepare the Corps’ records and several failed audits along the way.

Do you have a excuse for why the Marines did it (only once, but it's a start)....and the Navy couldn't?

https://www.defensenews.com/global/the- ... ry-branch/

Edit to add: if it's NOT the Navy's problem...and it's procurement? Your Navy brass are MORONS for not separating the "sailors" audit from the procurement side. Because it makes is sound like you can't count boats and depth charges. And if you're telling me it's clean until DC?

Wise up, and do what the Marines did. Not my fault you guys can't get your story out there when you have Navy brass who's JOB is to get the word out on various subjects.

Old Salt believes he’s the first person to encounter waste in a large organization. GM hired a bunch of us as interns to work on a waste study. It was this Cost of Quality initiative which is well known in private industry.

[old salt]

You hear one talking point & then repeat it, like you have any idea what really goes on inside. Waste & inefficiency is at the top. much of it in the politically influenced acquisition process. DoD is so huge, nobody can get their arms around it. Down the line, we're given a strict budget that we have to manage within, ...or we're replaced.

It's not a talking point. It's the truth. The Navy hasn't passed an audit....ever.

The U.S. Marine Corps passed a full financial audit for the first time, with the service announcing Friday its fiscal 2023 financial audit received an “unmodified audit opinion” after a rigorous two-year review.

The milestone — something the Defense Department and the other armed services still have not achieved — comes after almost two decades of trying to prepare the Corps’ records and several failed audits along the way.

Do you have a excuse for why the Marines did it (only once, but it's a start)....and the Navy couldn't?

https://www.defensenews.com/global/the- ... ry-branch/

Edit to add: if it's NOT the Navy's problem...and it's procurement? Your Navy brass are MORONS for not separating the "sailors" audit from the procurement side. Because it makes is sound like you can't count boats and depth charges. And if you're telling me it's clean until DC?

Wise up, and do what the Marines did. Not my fault you guys can't get your story out there when you have Navy brass who's JOB is to get the word out on various subjects.

...you do realize that the USMC is a component of the Dept of the Navy ?
This is like watching a chimp play with a hand grenade.

[Typical Lax Dad]

You hear one talking point & then repeat it, like you have any idea what really goes on inside. Waste & inefficiency is at the top. much of it in the politically influenced acquisition process. DoD is so huge, nobody can get their arms around it. Down the line, we're given a strict budget that we have to manage within, ...or we're replaced.

It's not a talking point. It's the truth. The Navy hasn't passed an audit....ever.

The U.S. Marine Corps passed a full financial audit for the first time, with the service announcing Friday its fiscal 2023 financial audit received an “unmodified audit opinion” after a rigorous two-year review.

The milestone — something the Defense Department and the other armed services still have not achieved — comes after almost two decades of trying to prepare the Corps’ records and several failed audits along the way.

Do you have a excuse for why the Marines did it (only once, but it's a start)....and the Navy couldn't?

https://www.defensenews.com/global/the- ... ry-branch/

Edit to add: if it's NOT the Navy's problem...and it's procurement? Your Navy brass are MORONS for not separating the "sailors" audit from the procurement side. Because it makes is sound like you can't count boats and depth charges. And if you're telling me it's clean until DC?

Wise up, and do what the Marines did. Not my fault you guys can't get your story out there when you have Navy brass who's JOB is to get the word out on various subjects.

...you do realize that the USMC is a component of the Dept of the Navy ?
This is like watching a chimp play with a hand grenade.