2024

[a fan]

Guys -- Please take it to another thread.

If you want to joust endlessly with Salty about Hunter Biden's lap top, Walz's NG service, Tailhook, Benghazi or butter-emails, there's another place for that.

Thanks.

Heard. Already split off Tail for you.

[ggait]

Today's Silver forecast update.

Interesting how some of the Sunbelt swing states are moving around. North Carolina stronger for Harris than Georgia? Arizona stronger than Nevada?

Good that some of those states are becoming more competitive.

Because PA is now the closest of the Blue Wall states (although Harris is still slightly ahead in the PA poll average). And it will take a LOT to overcome a loss in PA.

Last update: 12:30 p.m., Saturday, August 17: More polling than we’re used to on a Saturday. The big news is a set of four New York Times/Siena College polls in Sunbelt states, which show somewhat quirky results: Harris +5 in Arizona, Harris +2 in North Carolina, Trump +1 in Nevada and Trump +4 in Georgia. Separately, there’s a Trump +1 in Pennsylvania that came in after our deadline yesterday.

Overall, these are results that sustain the status quo in our model — the topline is unchanged. Harris no longer has the momentum that she had a week or two ago, but there’s a chance that she could regain after the convention next week if she can learn how to navigate the higher expectations that the media now has for her campaign.

The state-by-state results are interesting, though. It’s good that the NYT is willing to publish results like these rather than herd or self-censor. And following them, the model now has Harris as slightly more likely to win North Carolina than Georgia, and slightly more likely to win Arizona than Nevada. Nate Cohn thinks these are plausible enough results, and I suppose I do too, especially given that the model does some work on the backend to blend polling averages with regression-based forecasts for each state. But we may have more to say about that soon.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.threads.net/@flaregun1/post ... P8DDe1RnWQ

Don’t support the man, support his policies

[old salt]

Here's what Walz's DD-214 said about his final rank. Explained by a journalist who is also a NG officer.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... e-00173893


Walz was a command sergeant major, but he retired at the lower rank of master sergeant because he didn’t complete a lengthy correspondence course required to keep his provisional promotion.

His initial discharge form indicated command sergeant major rank, but officials issued a corrected version in fall of 2005.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Great policies…Ignore everything else.

But the impact was soon lost as Trump once again veered repeatedly away from the script with rambling discourses from immigration to China and trans people, often based on outright falsehoods.

At one point, he even acknowledged that was what he was doing.

“They’ll say he was rambling. I don’t ramble. I’m a really smart guy, you know, really smart. I don’t ramble. But the other day, anytime I hit too hard, they say he was rambling, rambling,” he said.

The audience, some wearing T-shirts proclaiming “I’m voting for a convicted felon” and chanting “Fight, fight, fight” in reference to the former president’s words shortly after he narrowly escaped an assassination attempt last month, urged Trump on.

When he returned to the script, Trump attacked Harris for her previous opposition to fracking, an unpopular stance in Pennsylvania, which is a major fracker, but he will not have helped himself in the Rust belt by saying he would cut spending on infrastructure such as renewing bridges and roads, which has provided jobs in the region.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... ania-rally

[cradleandshoot]

Here's what Walz's DD-214 said about his final rank. Explained by a journalist who is also a NG officer.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... e-00173893


Walz was a command sergeant major, but he retired at the lower rank of master sergeant because he didn’t complete a lengthy correspondence course required to keep his provisional promotion.

His initial discharge form indicated command sergeant major rank, but officials issued a corrected version in fall of 2005.

I said it here earlier, his DD 214 tells the story. This should end the debate. His final rank and pay grade was Sergeant Major/ E8. If it makes the rabid hyenas on this forum feel better he was TEMPORARILY appointed as acting CSM. Whether he was paid as an E9 hasn't been disclosed. So he is in reality a retired Sergeant Major. If the Harris campaign chose to embellish that record just a tad is still open for debate.

[CU88a]

Here's what Walz's DD-214 said about his final rank. Explained by a journalist who is also a NG officer.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... e-00173893


Walz was a command sergeant major, but he retired at the lower rank of master sergeant because he didn’t complete a lengthy correspondence course required to keep his provisional promotion.

His initial discharge form indicated command sergeant major rank, but officials issued a corrected version in fall of 2005.

I said it here earlier, his DD 214 tells the story. This should end the debate. His final rank and pay grade was Sergeant Major/ E8. If it makes the rabid hyenas on this forum feel better he was TEMPORARILY appointed as acting CSM. Whether he was paid as an E9 hasn't been disclosed. So he is in reality a retired Sergeant Major. If the Harris campaign chose to embellish that record just a tad is still open for debate.

Can you two get a room and leave this topic free of the faux news canard?
Or try posting your dribble here: viewtopic.php?t=5226

[cradleandshoot]

Here's what Walz's DD-214 said about his final rank. Explained by a journalist who is also a NG officer.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... e-00173893


Walz was a command sergeant major, but he retired at the lower rank of master sergeant because he didn’t complete a lengthy correspondence course required to keep his provisional promotion.

His initial discharge form indicated command sergeant major rank, but officials issued a corrected version in fall of 2005.

I said it here earlier, his DD 214 tells the story. This should end the debate. His final rank and pay grade was Sergeant Major/ E8. If it makes the rabid hyenas on this forum feel better he was TEMPORARILY appointed as acting CSM. Whether he was paid as an E9 hasn't been disclosed. So he is in reality a retired Sergeant Major. If the Harris campaign chose to embellish that record just a tad is still open for debate.

Can you two get a room and leave this topic free of the faux news canard?
Or try posting your dribble here: viewtopic.php?t=5226

Can you show us your DD 214 form loser? You just can't deal with the fact that your side was on the wrong side of the discussion. FTR this would never have been an issue if Team Harris had done their job when they vetted the retired Sergeant Major.

[DMac]

They should be able to get a pretty good price on that room too, eh CU88a? After all, they'd both qualify for that military types welfare queen pricing...just a little extra juice given by the teat for those types.

[cradleandshoot]

They should be able to get a pretty good price on that room too, eh CU88a? After all, they'd both qualify for that military types welfare queen pricing...just a little extra juice given by the teat for those types.

I could probably get a better room rate from AARP. I bet that comes with a free glass of prune juice.

[dislaxxic]

Bone Spurs?

"He didn't get captured"?

"Too full of bullets, or DEAD!"

Held the rank of Major Dikhead...

ring a bell??

STFU

..

[cradleandshoot]

Bone Spurs?

"He didn't get captured"?

"Too full of bullets, or DEAD!"

Held the rank of Major Dikhead...

ring a bell??

STFU

..

Do you eat your food with that potty mouth?

[old salt]

Here's what Walz's DD-214 said about his final rank. Explained by a journalist who is also a NG officer.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... e-00173893


Walz was a command sergeant major, but he retired at the lower rank of master sergeant because he didn’t complete a lengthy correspondence course required to keep his provisional promotion.

His initial discharge form indicated command sergeant major rank, but officials issued a corrected version in fall of 2005.

I said it here earlier, his DD 214 tells the story. This should end the debate. His final rank and pay grade was Sergeant Major/ E8. If it makes the rabid hyenas on this forum feel better he was TEMPORARILY appointed as acting CSM. Whether he was paid as an E9 hasn't been disclosed. So he is in reality a retired Sergeant Major. If the Harris campaign chose to embellish that record just a tad is still open for debate.

Can you two get a room and leave this topic free of the faux news canard?
Or try posting your dribble here: viewtopic.php?t=5226

It's an issue in the 2024 election. Get over it.

[cradleandshoot]

Here's what Walz's DD-214 said about his final rank. Explained by a journalist who is also a NG officer.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... e-00173893


Walz was a command sergeant major, but he retired at the lower rank of master sergeant because he didn’t complete a lengthy correspondence course required to keep his provisional promotion.

His initial discharge form indicated command sergeant major rank, but officials issued a corrected version in fall of 2005.

I said it here earlier, his DD 214 tells the story. This should end the debate. His final rank and pay grade was Sergeant Major/ E8. If it makes the rabid hyenas on this forum feel better he was TEMPORARILY appointed as acting CSM. Whether he was paid as an E9 hasn't been disclosed. So he is in reality a retired Sergeant Major. If the Harris campaign chose to embellish that record just a tad is still open for debate.

Can you two get a room and leave this topic free of the faux news canard?
Or try posting your dribble here: viewtopic.php?t=5226

It's an issue in the 2024 election. Get over it.

They are coming to the realization that they were incorrect in their conclusions. Questioning what rank the retired Sergeant Major actually held at the time of his retirement wasn't smearing or disrespecting his service to our country. All that needed to be done by the Harris vetting team was quite simple. The pick for VP served his country with honor for 24 years. The last several months he was appointed on a temporary basis and served as acting CSM of his battalion. He then went on to retire from the National Guard honorably at the rank of Sergeant Major. No perceived attempt at embellishment, just stating the truth. I'm not even certain the people who were vetting the retired SM understood the slight nuance. Nor did they understand the significance of that oversight. While the usual suspects on this forum went full speed ahead with their faux outrage they never noticed the Harris camp quietly corrected the matter.

[youthathletics]

Here's what Walz's DD-214 said about his final rank. Explained by a journalist who is also a NG officer.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... e-00173893


Walz was a command sergeant major, but he retired at the lower rank of master sergeant because he didn’t complete a lengthy correspondence course required to keep his provisional promotion.

His initial discharge form indicated command sergeant major rank, but officials issued a corrected version in fall of 2005.

I said it here earlier, his DD 214 tells the story. This should end the debate. His final rank and pay grade was Sergeant Major/ E8. If it makes the rabid hyenas on this forum feel better he was TEMPORARILY appointed as acting CSM. Whether he was paid as an E9 hasn't been disclosed. So he is in reality a retired Sergeant Major. If the Harris campaign chose to embellish that record just a tad is still open for debate.

Can you two get a room and leave this topic free of the faux news canard?
Or try posting your dribble here: viewtopic.php?t=5226

It's an issue in the 2024 election. Get over it.

They are coming to the realization that they were incorrect in their conclusions. Questioning what rank the retired Sergeant Major actually held at the time of his retirement wasn't smearing or disrespecting his service to our country. All that needed to be done by the Harris vetting team was quite simple. The pick for VP served his country with honor for 24 years. The last several months he was appointed on a temporary basis and served as acting CSM of his battalion. He then went on to retire from the National Guard honorably at the rank of Sergeant Major. No perceived attempt at embellishment, just stating the truth. I'm not even certain the people who were vetting the retired SM understood the slight nuance. Nor did they understand the significance of that oversight. While the usual suspects on this forum went full speed ahead with their faux outrage they never noticed the Harris camp quietly corrected the matter.

So much so, that they had to correct his CV on the 2024 campaign website, as noted in a link cited earlier.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Here's what Walz's DD-214 said about his final rank. Explained by a journalist who is also a NG officer.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... e-00173893


Walz was a command sergeant major, but he retired at the lower rank of master sergeant because he didn’t complete a lengthy correspondence course required to keep his provisional promotion.

His initial discharge form indicated command sergeant major rank, but officials issued a corrected version in fall of 2005.

I said it here earlier, his DD 214 tells the story. This should end the debate. His final rank and pay grade was Sergeant Major/ E8. If it makes the rabid hyenas on this forum feel better he was TEMPORARILY appointed as acting CSM. Whether he was paid as an E9 hasn't been disclosed. So he is in reality a retired Sergeant Major. If the Harris campaign chose to embellish that record just a tad is still open for debate.

Can you two get a room and leave this topic free of the faux news canard?
Or try posting your dribble here: viewtopic.php?t=5226

It's an issue in the 2024 election. Get over it.

They are coming to the realization that they were incorrect in their conclusions. Questioning what rank the retired Sergeant Major actually held at the time of his retirement wasn't smearing or disrespecting his service to our country. All that needed to be done by the Harris vetting team was quite simple. The pick for VP served his country with honor for 24 years. The last several months he was appointed on a temporary basis and served as acting CSM of his battalion. He then went on to retire from the National Guard honorably at the rank of Sergeant Major. No perceived attempt at embellishment, just stating the truth. I'm not even certain the people who were vetting the retired SM understood the slight nuance. Nor did they understand the significance of that oversight. While the usual suspects on this forum went full speed ahead with their faux outrage they never noticed the Harris camp quietly corrected the matter.

So much so, that they had to correct his CV on the 2024 campaign website, as noted in a link cited earlier.

Cheapening, diminishing and smearing a man's nearly quarter century of service to his -- and your -- nation, to try to elect a criminal grifter and rapist. That's the sewer you three are bathing in. Backstabbing asshats in the foxhole with decent men. You are all f*cking disgraceful.

[old salt]

Walz played the same game as Kerry, exaggerating & embellishing his military experience.
They were both caught out by fellow vets who threw the BS flag on them.
No amount of spin, smoke, vitriol, counterattacks, diversions or whataboutisms can change the facts.
As a campaign issue, this is not going away.

The childish attacks on Vance just serve to highlight the difference between a man who enlisted during wartime, knowing that he would likely have to deploy to a war zone, & then fullfilled his duty, vs a man who enlisted during peacetime, then chose to avoid deployment to a war zone, after he had assumed a critical position in his unit & had begun wearing a higher rank, that he had yet to fully earn. Then after retirement, he continued to seek & enjoy the prestige of that higher rank & position, which he did not fully earn, exploiting his exaggerated service for political gain. Thank you for your service, Master Sergeant Walz.

[MDlaxfan76]

Here's what Walz's DD-214 said about his final rank. Explained by a journalist who is also a NG officer.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... e-00173893


Walz was a command sergeant major, but he retired at the lower rank of master sergeant because he didn’t complete a lengthy correspondence course required to keep his provisional promotion.

His initial discharge form indicated command sergeant major rank, but officials issued a corrected version in fall of 2005.

I said it here earlier, his DD 214 tells the story. This should end the debate. His final rank and pay grade was Sergeant Major/ E8. If it makes the rabid hyenas on this forum feel better he was TEMPORARILY appointed as acting CSM. Whether he was paid as an E9 hasn't been disclosed. So he is in reality a retired Sergeant Major. If the Harris campaign chose to embellish that record just a tad is still open for debate.

Can you two get a room and leave this topic free of the faux news canard?
Or try posting your dribble here: viewtopic.php?t=5226

It's an issue in the 2024 election. Get over it.

They are coming to the realization that they were incorrect in their conclusions. Questioning what rank the retired Sergeant Major actually held at the time of his retirement wasn't smearing or disrespecting his service to our country. All that needed to be done by the Harris vetting team was quite simple. The pick for VP served his country with honor for 24 years. The last several months he was appointed on a temporary basis and served as acting CSM of his battalion. He then went on to retire from the National Guard honorably at the rank of Sergeant Major. No perceived attempt at embellishment, just stating the truth. I'm not even certain the people who were vetting the retired SM understood the slight nuance. Nor did they understand the significance of that oversight. While the usual suspects on this forum went full speed ahead with their faux outrage they never noticed the Harris camp quietly corrected the matter.

So much so, that they had to correct his CV on the 2024 campaign website, as noted in a link cited earlier.

Cheapening, diminishing and smearing a man's nearly quarter century of service to his -- and your -- nation, to try to elect a criminal grifter and rapist. That's the sewer you three are bathing in. Backstabbing asshats in the foxhole with decent men. You are all f*cking disgraceful.

Yup…and so obviously so, despite all pretenses otherwise. Gross.

[youthathletics]

Here's what Walz's DD-214 said about his final rank. Explained by a journalist who is also a NG officer.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... e-00173893


Walz was a command sergeant major, but he retired at the lower rank of master sergeant because he didn’t complete a lengthy correspondence course required to keep his provisional promotion.

His initial discharge form indicated command sergeant major rank, but officials issued a corrected version in fall of 2005.

I said it here earlier, his DD 214 tells the story. This should end the debate. His final rank and pay grade was Sergeant Major/ E8. If it makes the rabid hyenas on this forum feel better he was TEMPORARILY appointed as acting CSM. Whether he was paid as an E9 hasn't been disclosed. So he is in reality a retired Sergeant Major. If the Harris campaign chose to embellish that record just a tad is still open for debate.

Can you two get a room and leave this topic free of the faux news canard?
Or try posting your dribble here: viewtopic.php?t=5226

It's an issue in the 2024 election. Get over it.

They are coming to the realization that they were incorrect in their conclusions. Questioning what rank the retired Sergeant Major actually held at the time of his retirement wasn't smearing or disrespecting his service to our country. All that needed to be done by the Harris vetting team was quite simple. The pick for VP served his country with honor for 24 years. The last several months he was appointed on a temporary basis and served as acting CSM of his battalion. He then went on to retire from the National Guard honorably at the rank of Sergeant Major. No perceived attempt at embellishment, just stating the truth. I'm not even certain the people who were vetting the retired SM understood the slight nuance. Nor did they understand the significance of that oversight. While the usual suspects on this forum went full speed ahead with their faux outrage they never noticed the Harris camp quietly corrected the matter.

So much so, that they had to correct his CV on the 2024 campaign website, as noted in a link cited earlier.

Cheapening, diminishing and smearing a man's nearly quarter century of service to his -- and your -- nation, to try to elect a criminal grifter and rapist. That's the sewer you three are bathing in. Backstabbing asshats in the foxhole with decent men. You are all f*cking disgraceful.

Sheesh….I thought you thrive in facts, and when they are corrected to become accurate, you lash out like you were scorn.

[ggait]

Wake me up when Salty Swiftboat finally stops posting about this stupid zombie topic that no one cares about.

Booooooooooooooooooooooooring.