Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:43 pm
DMac wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:09 pm
I don't know if that implication definition is completely accurate.
I served in Iraq doesn't imply that you fought, that's a misinterpretation
of what was said, an incorrect assumption on the part of the listener. I'm one
who will ask in what capacity, it's pretty easy (most of the time) to take
it from there and figure how much combat was seen by that person.
You tell the average person you served in Iraq, the average person will assume you saw combat. Some people know that’s what the assumption will be. You tell the average person you spent time at Rikers, the average person will assume you served time. Not everyone, but generally. Nothing is absolute.
Agree, and said pretty much the same thing in the post above yours, but because the average person assumes you saw combat (because the average person doesn't know jack schidt about how the military works) doesn't mean the speaker implied such. The listener envisions something that is not, and that's on him/her (born of ignorance...and yes, you can bet Vance knows this). Will say again, Vance has not been misleading about his military service (to the best of my knowledge at this point anyway) but he certainly has been in spades about Walz's.
I've watched this for many, many years with Vietnam Veteran hat wearers. I know that they (most of them) think that most people are going to think that they're real bad aszez who experienced the likes of Hamburger Hill combat and were lucky to survive because of that hat. A lot of them like to play on people's ignorance...they aint gonna bullschidt me though and they know it a couple of minutes into a conversation (and yes, I will engage with damn near every one of them I see). A couple of years back an old timer pulled up to the grocery store with his MARINES bumper sticker on his car. When he got out I said, uh oh, hide the women and children, the Marines are in town! Turns out he was sniper who did two tours in Vietnam and said he loved it. He was unquestionably the real deal, had a real nice chat with the guy. Sometimes you do run into the guys who actually did do what the ignorant assume all do.