old salt wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:29 pm
Had she been a male student pilot, her performance in training flights would have precluded her from qualifying in the F-14.
She received repeated, additional training that would not have been extended to a male student pilot.
Well, that's not DEI.
DEI is: cast a wider net, because the usual MO gets a bunch of white guys who know someone.
A distiller colleague of mine was in charge of hiring new chemical engineers for a global Irish distillery. Made the first women hires...multiple....in the companies 100 year plus history. Know how she did it? Cast a wider net. That's it. Got well qualified applicants across the board.
That's it. That's DEI.
But to my point, plenty of men crash and burn in air training....literally...all the time. Is that DEI, or just this one crash that happened to involved a woman?
old salt wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:29 pm
The "gauntlet" was a impromptu unsanctioned thing, that was discouraged, not condoned & was not previously as severe as in '91.
It is by definition "sanctioned"...held during a sanctioned Navy event, OS. And "discouraged" is just about the dumbest thing you've posted here.
That ain't how the military works. Even I know that. Here's what you do: as an officer, you give a direct order not to do it. That's it. If one single officer had the.....am at a loss for words here......lukewarm IQ to know that "the gauntlet" is a bad thing to allow for any number of reasons.....that's it. Gauntlet shut down.
old salt wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:29 pm
Female participants were thought to be consensual.
Again, if you're an idiot, sure, you can think that.
Here's an easy way to think of it: picture your daughter running the "gauntlet", with the press there with cameras. And if you're 100% cool with it....go right ahead. But if you're like "oh,heavens no..." then I promise you, the women didn't want to do it.
old salt wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:29 pm
The Navy was investigating Tailhook 91 & taking steps to prevent a repeat.
OS, tell me you're not this tone deaf:
According to Coughlin, she told Snyder, first by telephone, and then in person at breakfast, about the assault the next morning of September 8, saying, "I was almost gang-banged last night by a bunch of heck F-18 pilots."[27] Snyder, she said, seemingly preoccupied by another matter and lost in thought, distractedly replied, "Paula, you need to stop hanging around with those guys. That's what you've got to expect on the third deck with a bunch of drunk aviators" and made no further comment.
old salt wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:29 pm
Help from Congress was not needed & generated a counterproductive backlash.
This taxpayer disagrees. So did the woman who went through your "Gauntlet".
I'm stunned you're defending this. How many times have you lectured us just this month for taking personal responsibility?
Yet you're telling us your Navy had "a gauntlet" for women in a freaking hotel where alcohol is served.....where officers MUST obey orders to stop doing stupid sh9t....and not one Naval officer shut that sh*t down?