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[ggait]

Cra -- so do you deny that Walz ACTUALLY SERVED as a CSM?

Because that is what the Guard says he did.

"culminated his career serving as the command sergeant major for the battalion."

[cradleandshoot]

Cra -- so do you deny that Walz ACTUALLY SERVED as a CSM?

Because that is what the Guard says he did.

"culminated his career serving as the command sergeant major for the battalion."

When did I say that? I never did. He held a temporary grade as an E9. He could have went to the CSM Academy and completed the course and been awarded a permanent promotion. He officially retired as an E8. That is nothing to be ashamed about for a guy who joined the Army as I did as a private E1. Some of the terminology he uses is rather odd for guy who started his career as a lowly trainee. Referring to your M16 as an assault rifle is nit picking to you but odd to me. We did often call them pea shooters though. We would have not said that loud enough for our drill sergeant to hear.

[njbill]

If you ex-service guys don’t stop with your nitpicking, we lawyers are going to engage in an extended dialogue about the intricacies of the rule against perpetuities.

Life in being plus 21 years!

I will raise you an adverse possession CANOE (continuous, adverse, notorious, open, exclusive). Bar exam was 39 years ago last week. I still got it!

And a second raise. Res ipsa loquitor -- meaning the thing speaks for itself. Example: If Salty posted it, you know it is MAGA troll bull shirt.

I’ll see your raise (and your raise of your own raise??) and raise you a statute of frauds which seems pretty applicable to this discussion.

[njbill]

E8, E9?

Are you sure we’re not talking bingo here?

[cradleandshoot]

E8, E9?

Are you sure we’re not talking bingo here?

I would answer you but I don't know how much you charge for billable hours. I suspect I can't afford your legal knowledge.

[cradleandshoot]

If you ex-service guys don’t stop with your nitpicking, we lawyers are going to engage in an extended dialogue about the intricacies of the rule against perpetuities.

Life in being plus 21 years!

I will raise you an adverse possession CANOE (continuous, adverse, notorious, open, exclusive). Bar exam was 39 years ago last week. I still got it!

And a second raise. Res ipsa loquitor -- meaning the thing speaks for itself. Example: If Salty posted it, you know it is MAGA troll bull shirt.

I’ll see your raise (and your raise of your own raise??) and raise you a statute of frauds which seems pretty applicable to this discussion.

Come on now, Walz wasn't deliberately trying to commit fraud, more like a teensie bit of fudging.

[Seacoaster(1)]

"I'd say it matters even more than what HS you attended matters to the Baltimore folk!"

This is not possible.

[kramerica.inc]

"I'd say it matters even more than what HS you attended matters to the Baltimore folk!"

This is not possible.

Indeed.

I went to lunch with a bunch of Baltimore guys last month.
One guy in the large group didn't hold the door for a lady and her family entering the restaurant.
Belted out from the group:

"I'm sorry ma'am. He doesn't know. He went to Calvert Hall."

[Seacoaster(1)]

"I'd say it matters even more than what HS you attended matters to the Baltimore folk!"

This is not possible.

Indeed.

I went to lunch with a bunch of Baltimore guys last month.
One guy in the large group didn't hold the door for a lady and her family entering the restaurant.
Belted out from the group:

"I'm sorry ma'am. He doesn't know. He went to Calvert Hall."

Hah! That's a good one.

My wife is from Baltimore...well, Ruxton. Went to a few family functions in our first years of marriage and never, ever have I heard "where'd you go to high school" or "oh, you went to BL?" or Do I remember you from Loyola?" from so many people. My father in law and his five brothers went, I believe, to BL and wore the sweatshirts into their 80s.

[ggait]

Come on now, Walz wasn't deliberately trying to commit fraud, more like a teensie bit of fudging.

Cra -- it is a simple yes or no question, weasel.

Did Walz serve as, and hold the position of, CSM?

Yes or no. Just answer the forking question.

And to help your addled weasel brain, I will repeat. The National Guard itself says this:

Walz "culminated his career serving as the command sergeant major for the battalion."

[cradleandshoot]

Come on now, Walz wasn't deliberately trying to commit fraud, more like a teensie bit of fudging.

Cra -- it is a simple yes or no question, weasel.

Did Walz serve as, and hold the position of, CSM?

Yes or no. Just answer the forking question.

And to help your addled weasel brain, I will repeat. The National Guard itself says this:

Walz "culminated his career serving as the command sergeant major for the battalion."

Already answered it counselor. That was good for 2 weasels.

[ggait]

No you didn't answer it. Are you still maintaining that Walz "fudged" a teeny bit? The Guard does not say anything about fudging. They say he served in that rank.

Seems to me that you are bull shirting and denigrating the service of another veteran.

So again.

Did Walz serve in that office or not?

Yes or no.

If you really are a vet, I'd think this should be pretty simple for you. UCMJ makes lying an offense, right?

[old salt]

...if you can't read. We both said we do not accuse Master Sergeant Walz of Stolen Valor or question his decision to retire. We are simply interested in how he functioned as a Command Master Sergeant, which is a significant rank & assignment. It is no different than you lawyers discussing the details of a legal case or you financial professionals discussing the details of finance, the economy or business deals. This is an issue very much in the news. Don't be afraid. You might learn something.

I was "frocked" to O-2, O-3, O-4 & O-5 immediately after I was selected for promotion. I could then wear the rank, carry the title & fill jobs coded for the higher rank, but it was several months (not 2 years), before I was permanently promoted to the higher rank & began receiving higher pay & benefits.
I am merely curious about how it worked for Master Sergeant Walz & if the Army NG does it differently than the active duty Navy.

[cradleandshoot]

No you didn't answer it. Are you still maintaining that Walz "fudged" a teeny bit? The Guard does not say anything about fudging. They say he served in that rank.

Seems to me that you are bull shirting and denigrating the service of another veteran.

So again.

Did Walz serve in that office or not?

Yes or no.

If you really are a vet, I'd think this should be pretty simple for you. UCMJ makes lying an offense, right?

I don't know, are you actually a lawyer or are you just pretending? You most certainly don't have the demeanor of a lawyer. What personal injury firm do you work for? I'm guessing your specialty is slip and fall give ggait a call.

[Kismet]

No you didn't answer it. Are you still maintaining that Walz "fudged" a teeny bit? The Guard does not say anything about fudging. They say he served in that rank.

Seems to me that you are bull shirting and denigrating the service of another veteran.

So again.

Did Walz serve in that office or not?

Yes or no.

If you really are a vet, I'd think this should be pretty simple for you. UCMJ makes lying an offense, right?

I don't know, are you actually a lawyer or are you just pretending? You most certainly don't have the demeanor of a lawyer. What personal injury ferm do you work for? I'm guessing your specialty is slip and fall give ggait a call.

Ferm? What is THAT exactly?

[cradleandshoot]

No you didn't answer it. Are you still maintaining that Walz "fudged" a teeny bit? The Guard does not say anything about fudging. They say he served in that rank.

Seems to me that you are bull shirting and denigrating the service of another veteran.

So again.

Did Walz serve in that office or not?

Yes or no.

If you really are a vet, I'd think this should be pretty simple for you. UCMJ makes lying an offense, right?

I don't know, are you actually a lawyer or are you just pretending? You most certainly don't have the demeanor of a lawyer. What personal injury ferm do you work for? I'm guessing your specialty is slip and fall give ggait a call.

Ferm? What is THAT exactly?

Already corrected that was my not so smart phone at work.

[cradleandshoot]

No you didn't answer it. Are you still maintaining that Walz "fudged" a teeny bit? The Guard does not say anything about fudging. They say he served in that rank.

Seems to me that you are bull shirting and denigrating the service of another veteran.

So again.

Did Walz serve in that office or not?

Yes or no.

If you really are a vet, I'd think this should be pretty simple for you. UCMJ makes lying an offense, right?

I don't know, are you actually a lawyer or are you just pretending? You most certainly don't have the demeanor of a lawyer. What personal injury ferm do you work for? I'm guessing your specialty is slip and fall give ggait a call.

Ferm? What is THAT exactly?

That could double as an abbreviation of ggaits brain. Ferm as in fermented.

[old salt]

...if you can't read. We both said we do not accuse Master Sergeant Walz of Stolen Valor or question his decision to retire. We are simply interested in how he functioned as a Command Master Sergeant, which is a significant rank & assignment. It is no different than you lawyers discussing the details of a legal case or you financial professionals discussing the details of finance, the economy or business deals. This is an issue very much in the news. Don't be afraid. You might learn something.

I was "frocked" to O-2, O-3, O-4 & O-5 immediately after I was selected for promotion. I could then wear the rank, carry the title & fill jobs coded for the higher rank, but it was several months (not 2 years), before I was permanently promoted to the higher rank & began receiving higher pay & benefits.
I am merely curious about how it worked for Master Sergeant Walz & if the Army NG does it differently than the active duty Navy.

Found this :
https://whyy.org/articles/vance-walz-st ... ry-record/
Walz served as a command sergeant major, the highest enlisted rank. But his retirement papers put him one step lower – a master sergeant. The Minnesota National Guard told NPR that Walz retired before completing academic requirements to keep the higher rank.

“He held multiple positions within field artillery such as firing battery chief, operations sergeant, first sergeant and culminated his career serving as the command sergeant major for the battalion. He retired as a master sergeant in 2005 for benefit purposes because he did not complete additional coursework at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy,” said Army Lt. Col. Kristen Augé, the Minnesota National Guard’s state public affairs officer.

So while Walz can say he served as a command sergeant major, which also made him the highest enlisted member serving in Congress, and he can even get away with saying he retired as a command sergeant major, he cannot say he is a “retired command sergeant major." On Thursday the Harris campaign changed Walz’s official bio on their website to reflect that.

[DMac]

Such chickenschidt stuff. It's been fixed, end of piszin' contest.
He was a CSM then he wasn't because he retired before he
completed all the requirements. No cowardice, no abandonment.
Subject exhausted, time to move on.

[Kismet]

Such chickenschidt stuff. It's been fixed, end of piszin' contest.
He was a CSM then he wasn't because he retired before he
completed all the requirements. No cowardice, no abandonment.
Subject exhausted, time to move on.

No chance, with Saltine. This topic has Hunter Biden preoccupation potential.