Conservative Ideology: A Big Lie

[Brooklyn]

A drunken CONservative Rudy Giuliani takes a fall:



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[NattyBohChamps04]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

[a fan]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

F the working class, right guys? Can't let the Dems get a "win". So F the immigration bill, F the child credit.

Let them eat cake.

[Brooklyn]

40+ years of increases in wealth gap thanks to the idiocy of Reaganomics. Still waiting for that promised "trickle down" effect. Dead in the water now and forever.

[cradleandshoot]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

Odd how lowering taxes and helping families only goes back in style every 4 years during a presidential election year? I wonder what that middle class tax cut would have looked like? My guess, probably as useful as next years COLA adjustment for social security recipients. Oddly that increase is somehow negated by the corresponding increase in Medicare. It ain't like the American people haven't caught on a long time ago how this little game is played in DC.
Besides a Fan is always opining about the danger of lowering taxes. Suck it up you middle class taxpaying butter cups. Y'all need to learn how to do more with less. Y'all don't really need 3 meals a day. Time to cut out lunch break and those summer time trips with the kiddos for ice cream That is what a real patriotic American would do.

[NattyBohChamps04]

France investigates death threats against Olympics ceremony director

"Paris 2024 organisers apologised afterward saying there had been no intention to show disrespect towards any religious group. Jolly also said that religious subversion had not been his intention and that the scene was supposed to depict a pagan feast linked to the gods of Olympus."

It's amazing just how worked up these people get. You see it with the female boxer too, people going absolutely bonkers. When there are actual issues out there instead of ones they have to make up.

[OCanada]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

Odd how lowering taxes and helping families only goes back in style every 4 years during a presidential election year? I wonder what that middle class tax cut would have looked like? My guess, probably as useful as next years COLA adjustment for social security recipients. Oddly that increase is somehow negated by the corresponding increase in Medicare. It ain't like the American people haven't caught on a long time ago how this little game is played in DC.
Besides a Fan is always opining about the danger of lowering taxes. Suck it up you middle class taxpaying butter cups. Y'all need to learn how to do more with less. Y'all don't really need 3 meals a day. Time to cut out lunch break and those summer time trips with the kiddos for ice cream That is what a real patriotic American would do.

More economic illiteracy. Never really changes just shape shifts. The GOP guts the middle class with its economic policies, shifts massive wealth from the middle and lower classes, uses outdated inductively reasoned theory then wants yo pretend its policies are your friend.

[a fan]

France investigates death threats against Olympics ceremony director

"Paris 2024 organisers apologised afterward saying there had been no intention to show disrespect towards any religious group. Jolly also said that religious subversion had not been his intention and that the scene was supposed to depict a pagan feast linked to the gods of Olympus."

It's amazing just how worked up these people get. You see it with the female boxer too, people going absolutely bonkers. When there are actual issues out there instead of ones they have to make up.

Same exact crew who whines about people getting offended by small things. And who complains about cancel culture.

Every week they set new records for hypocrisy. This is Trump's America: if they complain about something, you can bet that within 24 hours that they're going to do the very thing they complained about just hours ago.

Complain about the Deep State and prosecutors being corrupt....and one day later they're whining about how prosecutors aren't putting people that aren't them in jail.

Complain about cancel culture, then lose their minds over the national anthem.

Complain about campaign rhetoric getting Trump shot, and then ratchet up the death threats not even a day later.

I'm so sick of these idiots.

[old salt]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

F the working class, right guys? Can't let the Dems get a "win". So F the immigration bill, F the child credit.

Let them eat cake.

Tump's 2017 tax cut doubled the child tax credit, but that wasn't enough. The Dem-Socialists always want more handouts.

Wait & see what's in Trump's total tax proposal.

[cradleandshoot]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

F the working class, right guys? Can't let the Dems get a "win". So F the immigration bill, F the child credit.

Let them eat cake.

Tump's 2017 tax cut doubled the child tax credit, but that wasn't enough. The Dem-Socialists always want more handouts.

Wait & see what's in Trump's total tax proposal.

The same holds true for what Kamala Harris has in store for her tax proposal?

[a fan]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

F the working class, right guys? Can't let the Dems get a "win". So F the immigration bill, F the child credit.

Let them eat cake.

Tump's 2017 tax cut doubled the child tax credit, but that wasn't enough. The Dem-Socialists always want more handouts.

You mean fronting free college tuition at one of the best schools in the world without serving day one in the military? Or lifelong Federal health care and pensions for working fewer years than I have so far?

All on taxpayer's dime, naturally. Handouts are fine, so long as they're YOUR handouts.

You have no standing. Now excuse me, I have to get back to work so I can earn the money that pays for your health care and pension.

Put me in charge, and I'll do what you're asking for: no pension. No free college. No lifetime health care. And give you the small government you claim to want.

[a fan]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

F the working class, right guys? Can't let the Dems get a "win". So F the immigration bill, F the child credit.

Let them eat cake.

Tump's 2017 tax cut doubled the child tax credit, but that wasn't enough. The Dem-Socialists always want more handouts.

Wait & see what's in Trump's total tax proposal.

The same holds true for what Kamala Harris has in store for her tax proposal?

Naturally you boys aren't going to comment on Trump's handouts. The Trump policy board is devoid of criticism.

Dems are bad. R's are awesome. How many more years of this are we going to get? We're at year 12 now.

[cradleandshoot]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

F the working class, right guys? Can't let the Dems get a "win". So F the immigration bill, F the child credit.

Let them eat cake.

Tump's 2017 tax cut doubled the child tax credit, but that wasn't enough. The Dem-Socialists always want more handouts.

Wait & see what's in Trump's total tax proposal.

The same holds true for what Kamala Harris has in store for her tax proposal?

Naturally you boys aren't going to comment on Trump's handouts. The Trump policy board is devoid of criticism.

Dems are bad. R's are awesome. How many more years of this are we going to get? We're at year 12 now.

To be honest I haven't read any of trumps tax proposals. If any of his tax proposals make it to his desk if elected they will have been chipped away and modified to the point they will be unrecognizable.

[a fan]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

F the working class, right guys? Can't let the Dems get a "win". So F the immigration bill, F the child credit.

Let them eat cake.

Tump's 2017 tax cut doubled the child tax credit, but that wasn't enough. The Dem-Socialists always want more handouts.

Wait & see what's in Trump's total tax proposal.

The same holds true for what Kamala Harris has in store for her tax proposal?

Naturally you boys aren't going to comment on Trump's handouts. The Trump policy board is devoid of criticism.

Dems are bad. R's are awesome. How many more years of this are we going to get? We're at year 12 now.

To be honest I haven't read any of trumps tax proposals. If any of his tax proposals make it to his desk if elected they will have been chipped away and modified to the point they will be unrecognizable.

Same for the Dems. If your'e going to do this, Cradle, that's fine....but treat them the same. Kamala won't get elected. And even if she is elected, she isn't a King.

[cradleandshoot]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

F the working class, right guys? Can't let the Dems get a "win". So F the immigration bill, F the child credit.

Let them eat cake.

Tump's 2017 tax cut doubled the child tax credit, but that wasn't enough. The Dem-Socialists always want more handouts.

Wait & see what's in Trump's total tax proposal.

The same holds true for what Kamala Harris has in store for her tax proposal?

Naturally you boys aren't going to comment on Trump's handouts. The Trump policy board is devoid of criticism.

Dems are bad. R's are awesome. How many more years of this are we going to get? We're at year 12 now.

To be honest I haven't read any of trumps tax proposals. If any of his tax proposals make it to his desk if elected they will have been chipped away and modified to the point they will be unrecognizable.

Same for the Dems. If your'e going to do this, Cradle, that's fine....but treat them the same. Kamala won't get elected. And even if she is elected, she isn't a King.

That depends on Kamala's ability to twist arms and tweak noses. Of course it depends on which party runs the Congress and the Senate. Do you think a flat tax will be put on the table?

[old salt]

Naturally you boys aren't going to comment on Trump's handouts. The Trump policy board is devoid of criticism.

Dems are bad. R's are awesome. How many more years of this are we going to get? We're at year 12 now.

I just pointed out that Trump's tax plan doubled the child tax credit. His increase in the standard deduction also benefited low income & middle class families who don't make enough to itemize deductions.

Vance has long advocated an even larger child tax credit. He didn't vote for Schumer's rush to change the child tax credit before the election because he wants an even larger child tax credit as part of Trump's tax & tariff plan. If Kamala wins, there's still plenty of time to increase the child tax credit in whatever is passed to replace the sunsetting Trump tax cuts.

[OCanada]

You are not seriously trying to praise Trump’s economics are you? Let me give you a starting point when Trump got His tax cut passed and transferred huge wealth to the wealth it came at who’s expense? At the same time
He raised taxes on those with incomes under 75k and that provision has a couple more years to go. Then there were his tariffs and oil price increases he pushed.

[cradleandshoot]

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit

A bill to lower taxes and support families is shot down by the GOP? Wild with all the rhetoric on the campaign trail.

Let's check the story...

Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) told a reporter earlier in the year that passing the bill could make President Biden “look good,” which could help his reelection campaign and jeopardize the 2017 Trump tax legislation that Republicans want to renew.

Odd how lowering taxes and helping families only goes back in style every 4 years during a presidential election year? I wonder what that middle class tax cut would have looked like? My guess, probably as useful as next years COLA adjustment for social security recipients. Oddly that increase is somehow negated by the corresponding increase in Medicare. It ain't like the American people haven't caught on a long time ago how this little game is played in DC.
Besides a Fan is always opining about the danger of lowering taxes. Suck it up you middle class taxpaying butter cups. Y'all need to learn how to do more with less. Y'all don't really need 3 meals a day. Time to cut out lunch break and those summer time trips with the kiddos for ice cream That is what a real patriotic American would do.

More economic illiteracy. Never really changes just shape shifts. The GOP guts the middle class with its economic policies, shifts massive wealth from the middle and lower classes, uses outdated inductively reasoned theory then wants yo pretend its policies are your friend.

Wrongo, Washington DC guts the middle class. When either party lies to my face and tells me they support the middle class... despite all of that support they are getting from the blowhards of DC nothing has changed substantially for middle class America ever since I can remember. The promise like the broken record it keeps spinning around and around.

[Farfromgeneva]

You are not seriously trying to praise Trump’s economics are you? Let me give you a starting point when Trump got His tax cut passed and transferred huge wealth to the wealth it came at who’s expense? At the same time
He raised taxes on those with incomes under 75k and that provision has a couple more years to go. Then there were his tariffs and oil price increases he pushed.

Not sure your economics background but do you believe you can have a cleanish democracy combined with capitalism and not have things get binary? The entire point is competitions which requires outcomes that oppose each other.

To me it’s foolish the way Dems and left talk about economic change but insist on it being inside this specific paradigm never questioning whether they are compatible. It’s that stupidity and hubris that makes me not support that side of the ledger except when you throw a pos golem like Trump at me. And they don’t really promote policy supporting middle class they’re mostly shifting to the other end of the spectrum not distributing broadly. It’s all fraudulent or lacking understanding by pols to me as their polices have skewed and biased outcomes not smooth distribution. And a FR in Econ could figure that out so why do folks think they are supporting middle class really?

[MDlaxfan76]

You are not seriously trying to praise Trump’s economics are you? Let me give you a starting point when Trump got His tax cut passed and transferred huge wealth to the wealth it came at who’s expense? At the same time
He raised taxes on those with incomes under 75k and that provision has a couple more years to go. Then there were his tariffs and oil price increases he pushed.

Not sure your economics background but do you believe you can have a cleanish democracy combined with capitalism and not have things get binary? The entire point is competitions which requires outcomes that oppose each other.

To me it’s foolish the way Dems and left talk about economic change but insist on it being inside this specific paradigm never questioning whether they are compatible. It’s that stupidity and hubris that makes me not support that side of the ledger except when you throw a pos golem like Trump at me. And they don’t really promote policy supporting middle class they’re mostly shifting to the other end of the spectrum not distributing broadly. It’s all fraudulent or lacking understanding by pols to me as their polices have skewed and biased outcomes not smooth distribution. And a FR in Econ could figure that out so why do folks think they are supporting middle class really?

What policies would you suggest especially help middle class folks?
How about working class? Differences?