2024

[MDlaxfan76]

Lying with crime stats.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/08/ ... l-mystery/

The Truth about the Crime Explosion

by JOHN R. LOTT JR., August 7, 2024

Misunderstanding what the crime statistics measure and hiding the rise in crime

Hang on, this cat has many, many times been proven to be a right wing charlatan. He's a super Trumpy election denier who has made a career of being a far right extremist under the guise of "research and statistics".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

Pretty clear who is "lying" and it ain't Buttigieg nor the FBI.

The National Review fact checks what they publish.
I trust them on this, even if you don't like this author.
NR has a larger readership than you do.

Seriously? "fact checks" ???

It's an opinion piece, not journalism.
It's all this proven liar's opinion, not even necessarily the Editorial Board's opinion (though that's very suspect as well).

I love the "NR has a larger readership than you do."
Sure, but wikipedia has a way larger readership than does NR.

And that's a challenge system, way, way, way more likely to be "fact checked" than NR's opinion pieces.

It's always very revealing that partisans (on either side or extreme) refuse to bother to look at the history of someone pandering to their basest bigotries. When someone has a history of lying, especially with the veneer of "research and statistics", their credibility when citing such should be hugely diminished. But partisans and extremists (and fools) are willing to give credibility only to what reinforces their ignorant bigotries.

And this "author" has a history of flaming lies.

But hey, keep spreading such BS. It works on lots of people.

Right. Keep deluding yourself. Retailers are locking away their inventory because of flaming lies. Keep denying the obvious.
Carjackings & vehicle theft are not really happening. It's the car makers fault.
https://stateline.org/2024/02/09/car-th ... point-why/

Same for this...did you bother to read full article?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Let's try to unpack this granularly, and we can take any needed additional discussions over to Sensible Guns.

1) Walz named as VP choice.
2) I dislike his DWI arrest and circumstances.
3) As more of an aside than anything else, I point out that innocent Americans are murdered at a rate 10x that of - and I use "all rifles" category our government uses which encompasses "assault weapons" - to basically say "wow, with all the enmity for assault weapons, one would wonder why not 10x the enmity for drunk driving?"

Happy to answer, and you're not going to like where this ends.

Let's start here: what you're asking here is for rifles and drunk driving to be treated equally by our State and Federal Government.

Do I have that right?

Putting aside the regulation point, he's ignoring the fact that we've had way more than 10x the enmity against drunk driving for a very long time. How many billions of dollars has been spent fighting drunk driving over the decades? How many non-profit groups have sprung up, and how many government campaigns have been run? How many new laws and regulations and punishments have been put in place? Makes gun safety campaigns look piddly.

And you know what? Alcohol related auto deaths are down. Both total numbers and per-capita. You know what's more important? Total alcohol related crashes are down as well. Meaning it's not just car safety that's causing the drop. For instance Here's some of Minnesota's #s over time (page 31)

Meanwhile gun related deaths are not following the same trajectory the past decade.

I used madd like Kleenex but same point as your making.

Stricter laws on DUI's and minimum alcohol in blood that's allowed, higher taxes on alcohol, rules and regulations at every level of .gov, State run booze shops, tighter and better ID's, and on and on and on....

......Waffle clearly has missed all we've done since the 80's when drunk driving was seen as a serious problem. And Waffle...you do NOT want this happening to your guns. I don't even have to ask you if you want guns treated like drunk driving.

It’s was a joke and clearly propaganda from the break in that.

I love the “let’s get granular here” facade and pretense of intellectualism followed by weak form heuristics a community college dropout could see through. Strippers could run better intellectual game .

Yep

[old salt]

Lying with crime stats.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/08/ ... l-mystery/

The Truth about the Crime Explosion

by JOHN R. LOTT JR., August 7, 2024

Misunderstanding what the crime statistics measure and hiding the rise in crime

Hang on, this cat has many, many times been proven to be a right wing charlatan. He's a super Trumpy election denier who has made a career of being a far right extremist under the guise of "research and statistics".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

Pretty clear who is "lying" and it ain't Buttigieg nor the FBI.

The National Review fact checks what they publish.
I trust them on this, even if you don't like this author.
NR has a larger readership than you do.

Seriously? "fact checks" ???

It's an opinion piece, not journalism.
It's all this proven liar's opinion, not even necessarily the Editorial Board's opinion (though that's very suspect as well).

I love the "NR has a larger readership than you do."
Sure, but wikipedia has a way larger readership than does NR.

And that's a challenge system, way, way, way more likely to be "fact checked" than NR's opinion pieces.

It's always very revealing that partisans (on either side or extreme) refuse to bother to look at the history of someone pandering to their basest bigotries. When someone has a history of lying, especially with the veneer of "research and statistics", their credibility when citing such should be hugely diminished. But partisans and extremists (and fools) are willing to give credibility only to what reinforces their ignorant bigotries.

And this "author" has a history of flaming lies.

But hey, keep spreading such BS. It works on lots of people.

Right. Keep deluding yourself. Retailers are locking away their inventory because of flaming lies. Keep denying the obvious.
Carjackings & vehicle theft are not really happening. It's the car makers fault.
https://stateline.org/2024/02/09/car-th ... point-why/

Same for this...did you bother to read full article?

Yeah. It's car owners' fault too. + not enough mental health support for bored teens influenced by social media. excuses,excuses

[MDlaxfan76]

Lying with crime stats.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/08/ ... l-mystery/

The Truth about the Crime Explosion

by JOHN R. LOTT JR., August 7, 2024

Misunderstanding what the crime statistics measure and hiding the rise in crime

Hang on, this cat has many, many times been proven to be a right wing charlatan. He's a super Trumpy election denier who has made a career of being a far right extremist under the guise of "research and statistics".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

Pretty clear who is "lying" and it ain't Buttigieg nor the FBI.

The National Review fact checks what they publish.
I trust them on this, even if you don't like this author.
NR has a larger readership than you do.

Seriously? "fact checks" ???

It's an opinion piece, not journalism.
It's all this proven liar's opinion, not even necessarily the Editorial Board's opinion (though that's very suspect as well).

I love the "NR has a larger readership than you do."
Sure, but wikipedia has a way larger readership than does NR.

And that's a challenge system, way, way, way more likely to be "fact checked" than NR's opinion pieces.

It's always very revealing that partisans (on either side or extreme) refuse to bother to look at the history of someone pandering to their basest bigotries. When someone has a history of lying, especially with the veneer of "research and statistics", their credibility when citing such should be hugely diminished. But partisans and extremists (and fools) are willing to give credibility only to what reinforces their ignorant bigotries.

And this "author" has a history of flaming lies.

But hey, keep spreading such BS. It works on lots of people.

Right. Keep deluding yourself. Retailers are locking away their inventory because of flaming lies. Keep denying the obvious.
Carjackings & vehicle theft are not really happening. It's the car makers fault.
https://stateline.org/2024/02/09/car-th ... point-why/

Same for this...did you bother to read full article?

Yeah. It's car owners' fault too. + not enough mental health support for bored teens influenced by social media. excuses,excuses

that's your takeaway?

Come on, that's not the point of the article.

[a fan]

Lying with crime stats.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/08/ ... l-mystery/

The Truth about the Crime Explosion

by JOHN R. LOTT JR., August 7, 2024

Misunderstanding what the crime statistics measure and hiding the rise in crime

Hang on, this cat has many, many times been proven to be a right wing charlatan. He's a super Trumpy election denier who has made a career of being a far right extremist under the guise of "research and statistics".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

Pretty clear who is "lying" and it ain't Buttigieg nor the FBI.

The National Review fact checks what they publish.
I trust them on this, even if you don't like this author.
NR has a larger readership than you do.

Seriously? "fact checks" ???

It's an opinion piece, not journalism.
It's all this proven liar's opinion, not even necessarily the Editorial Board's opinion (though that's very suspect as well).

I love the "NR has a larger readership than you do."
Sure, but wikipedia has a way larger readership than does NR.

And that's a challenge system, way, way, way more likely to be "fact checked" than NR's opinion pieces.

It's always very revealing that partisans (on either side or extreme) refuse to bother to look at the history of someone pandering to their basest bigotries. When someone has a history of lying, especially with the veneer of "research and statistics", their credibility when citing such should be hugely diminished. But partisans and extremists (and fools) are willing to give credibility only to what reinforces their ignorant bigotries.

And this "author" has a history of flaming lies.

But hey, keep spreading such BS. It works on lots of people.

Right. Keep deluding yourself. Retailers are locking away their inventory because of flaming lies. Keep denying the obvious.
Carjackings & vehicle theft are not really happening. It's the car makers fault.
https://stateline.org/2024/02/09/car-th ... point-why/

Same for this...did you bother to read full article?

Yeah. It's car owners' fault too. + not enough mental health support for bored teens influenced by social media. excuses,excuses

that's your takeaway?

Come on, that's not the point of the article.

He was rational for ONE post...now he's right back to "Dems are bad" trolling.

Total waste of time. Mostly his, but he doesn't see it. He's not here for a conversation, and wants us to believe that he's so stupid that he believes anything that FoxNation tells him.

He's not stupid. He's bored. Plenty of stuff to talk about in the ME and Ukraine, yet this "Dems are bad, and they're ruining America' stuff takes all of his mindshare.

[old salt]

Lying with crime stats.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/08/ ... l-mystery/

The Truth about the Crime Explosion

by JOHN R. LOTT JR., August 7, 2024

Misunderstanding what the crime statistics measure and hiding the rise in crime

Hang on, this cat has many, many times been proven to be a right wing charlatan. He's a super Trumpy election denier who has made a career of being a far right extremist under the guise of "research and statistics".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

Pretty clear who is "lying" and it ain't Buttigieg nor the FBI.

The National Review fact checks what they publish.
I trust them on this, even if you don't like this author.
NR has a larger readership than you do.

Seriously? "fact checks" ???

It's an opinion piece, not journalism.
It's all this proven liar's opinion, not even necessarily the Editorial Board's opinion (though that's very suspect as well).

I love the "NR has a larger readership than you do."
Sure, but wikipedia has a way larger readership than does NR.

And that's a challenge system, way, way, way more likely to be "fact checked" than NR's opinion pieces.

It's always very revealing that partisans (on either side or extreme) refuse to bother to look at the history of someone pandering to their basest bigotries. When someone has a history of lying, especially with the veneer of "research and statistics", their credibility when citing such should be hugely diminished. But partisans and extremists (and fools) are willing to give credibility only to what reinforces their ignorant bigotries.

And this "author" has a history of flaming lies.

But hey, keep spreading such BS. It works on lots of people.

Right. Keep deluding yourself. Retailers are locking away their inventory because of flaming lies. Keep denying the obvious.
Carjackings & vehicle theft are not really happening. It's the car makers fault.
https://stateline.org/2024/02/09/car-th ... point-why/

Same for this...did you bother to read full article?

Yeah. It's car owners' fault too. + not enough mental health support for bored teens influenced by social media. excuses,excuses

that's your takeaway?

Come on, that's not the point of the article.

He was rational for ONE post...now he's right back to "Dems are bad" trolling.

Total waste of time. Mostly his, but he doesn't see it. He's not here for a conversation, and wants us to believe that he's so stupid that he believes anything that FoxNation tells him.

He's not stupid. He's bored. Plenty of stuff to talk about in the ME and Ukraine, yet this "Dems are bad, and they're ruining America' stuff takes all of his mindshare.

NPR wouldn't make stuff up. Too many of their donor members are getting their tote bags snatched.
They're certainly not so stupopid that they believe FauxNation. They wouldn't be caught dead watching Faux News.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/09/12496269 ... -york-city

[a fan]

Lying with crime stats.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/08/ ... l-mystery/

The Truth about the Crime Explosion

by JOHN R. LOTT JR., August 7, 2024

Misunderstanding what the crime statistics measure and hiding the rise in crime

Hang on, this cat has many, many times been proven to be a right wing charlatan. He's a super Trumpy election denier who has made a career of being a far right extremist under the guise of "research and statistics".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

Pretty clear who is "lying" and it ain't Buttigieg nor the FBI.

The National Review fact checks what they publish.
I trust them on this, even if you don't like this author.
NR has a larger readership than you do.

Seriously? "fact checks" ???

It's an opinion piece, not journalism.
It's all this proven liar's opinion, not even necessarily the Editorial Board's opinion (though that's very suspect as well).

I love the "NR has a larger readership than you do."
Sure, but wikipedia has a way larger readership than does NR.

And that's a challenge system, way, way, way more likely to be "fact checked" than NR's opinion pieces.

It's always very revealing that partisans (on either side or extreme) refuse to bother to look at the history of someone pandering to their basest bigotries. When someone has a history of lying, especially with the veneer of "research and statistics", their credibility when citing such should be hugely diminished. But partisans and extremists (and fools) are willing to give credibility only to what reinforces their ignorant bigotries.

And this "author" has a history of flaming lies.

But hey, keep spreading such BS. It works on lots of people.

Right. Keep deluding yourself. Retailers are locking away their inventory because of flaming lies. Keep denying the obvious.
Carjackings & vehicle theft are not really happening. It's the car makers fault.
https://stateline.org/2024/02/09/car-th ... point-why/

Same for this...did you bother to read full article?

Yeah. It's car owners' fault too. + not enough mental health support for bored teens influenced by social media. excuses,excuses

that's your takeaway?

Come on, that's not the point of the article.

He was rational for ONE post...now he's right back to "Dems are bad" trolling.

Total waste of time. Mostly his, but he doesn't see it. He's not here for a conversation, and wants us to believe that he's so stupid that he believes anything that FoxNation tells him.

He's not stupid. He's bored. Plenty of stuff to talk about in the ME and Ukraine, yet this "Dems are bad, and they're ruining America' stuff takes all of his mindshare.

NPR wouldn't make stuff up. Too many of their donor members are getting their tote bags snatched.
They're certainly not so stupopid that they believe FauxNation. They wouldn't be caught dead watching Faux News.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/09/12496269 ... -york-city

So move the goalposts again from car thefts and carjackings....to immigrant crime in NYC.

It's yet another issue you don't care about. You're here to report on Dem run cities to tell us Dems are bad.

You're wasting your time, and have no interest in discussing anything other than blaming the Dems.

So sure, OS, the Dems are bad, vote Republican. Are we done here?

[old salt]

Lying with crime stats.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/08/ ... l-mystery/

The Truth about the Crime Explosion

by JOHN R. LOTT JR., August 7, 2024

Misunderstanding what the crime statistics measure and hiding the rise in crime

Hang on, this cat has many, many times been proven to be a right wing charlatan. He's a super Trumpy election denier who has made a career of being a far right extremist under the guise of "research and statistics".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

Pretty clear who is "lying" and it ain't Buttigieg nor the FBI.

The National Review fact checks what they publish.
I trust them on this, even if you don't like this author.
NR has a larger readership than you do.

Seriously? "fact checks" ???

It's an opinion piece, not journalism.
It's all this proven liar's opinion, not even necessarily the Editorial Board's opinion (though that's very suspect as well).

I love the "NR has a larger readership than you do."
Sure, but wikipedia has a way larger readership than does NR.

And that's a challenge system, way, way, way more likely to be "fact checked" than NR's opinion pieces.

It's always very revealing that partisans (on either side or extreme) refuse to bother to look at the history of someone pandering to their basest bigotries. When someone has a history of lying, especially with the veneer of "research and statistics", their credibility when citing such should be hugely diminished. But partisans and extremists (and fools) are willing to give credibility only to what reinforces their ignorant bigotries.

And this "author" has a history of flaming lies.

But hey, keep spreading such BS. It works on lots of people.

Right. Keep deluding yourself. Retailers are locking away their inventory because of flaming lies. Keep denying the obvious.
Carjackings & vehicle theft are not really happening. It's the car makers fault.
https://stateline.org/2024/02/09/car-th ... point-why/

Same for this...did you bother to read full article?

Yeah. It's car owners' fault too. + not enough mental health support for bored teens influenced by social media. excuses,excuses

that's your takeaway?

Come on, that's not the point of the article.

He was rational for ONE post...now he's right back to "Dems are bad" trolling.

Total waste of time. Mostly his, but he doesn't see it. He's not here for a conversation, and wants us to believe that he's so stupid that he believes anything that FoxNation tells him.

He's not stupid. He's bored. Plenty of stuff to talk about in the ME and Ukraine, yet this "Dems are bad, and they're ruining America' stuff takes all of his mindshare.

NPR wouldn't make stuff up. Too many of their donor members are getting their tote bags snatched.
They're certainly not so stupopid that they believe FauxNation. They wouldn't be caught dead watching Faux News.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/09/12496269 ... -york-city

So move the goalposts again from car thefts and carjackings....to immigrant crime in NYC.

It's yet another issue you don't care about. You're here to report on Dem run cities to tell us Dems are bad.

You're wasting your time, and have no interest in discussing anything other than blaming the Dems.

So sure, OS, the Dems are bad, vote Republican. Are we done here?

OK Dude. Whatever you say, my man.
If migrants hadn't raped & murdered those women & girls, a native born citizen would have got 'em. ...at least that's what the stats indicate.

[DMac]

Fanlax, where the American microcosm can be seen.

[Farfromgeneva]

Fanlax, where the American microcosm can be seen.

Not enough hot women here

[Farfromgeneva]

Let's try to unpack this granularly, and we can take any needed additional discussions over to Sensible Guns.

1) Walz named as VP choice.
2) I dislike his DWI arrest and circumstances.
3) As more of an aside than anything else, I point out that innocent Americans are murdered at a rate 10x that of - and I use "all rifles" category our government uses which encompasses "assault weapons" - to basically say "wow, with all the enmity for assault weapons, one would wonder why not 10x the enmity for drunk driving?"

Happy to answer, and you're not going to like where this ends.

Let's start here: what you're asking here is for rifles and drunk driving to be treated equally by our State and Federal Government.

Do I have that right?

Putting aside the regulation point, he's ignoring the fact that we've had way more than 10x the enmity against drunk driving for a very long time. How many billions of dollars has been spent fighting drunk driving over the decades? How many non-profit groups have sprung up, and how many government campaigns have been run? How many new laws and regulations and punishments have been put in place? Makes gun safety campaigns look piddly.

And you know what? Alcohol related auto deaths are down. Both total numbers and per-capita. You know what's more important? Total alcohol related crashes are down as well. Meaning it's not just car safety that's causing the drop. For instance Here's some of Minnesota's #s over time (page 31)

Meanwhile gun related deaths are not following the same trajectory the past decade.

Waffle brown when he was in college.

https://youtu.be/Fk9Lspb9f9U?si=TBn6SNWoOZAyggLR

[old salt]

As the soldiers of the Minnesota National Guard stood idle for 3 days, watching their biggest city burn, it must have been inspiring to hear their Governor/Commander in Chief & former Command Master Sergeant dismiss them as untrained 19 year old cooks.

https://www.mnsenaterepublicans.com/sen ... nal-guard/

https://www.mnsenaterepublicans.com/sen ... nal-guard/

https://ngmnpublic.azurewebsites.us/34mp/

https://ngmnpublic.azurewebsites.us/257th/

https://www.dvidshub.net/image/307036/m ... tion-force

[MDlaxfan76]

But at the time, Trump expressed support for Walz’s handling of the protests, according to a recording of a phone call obtained by ABC News — telling a group of governors that Walz “dominated,” and praising his leadership as an example for other states to follow.

“I know Gov. Walz is on the phone, and we spoke, and I fully agree with the way he handled it the last couple of days,” Trump told a group of governors on June 1, 2020, according to a recording of the call, in which he also called Walz an “excellent guy.”


https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/07/politics ... index.html

[MDlaxfan76]

Fanlax, where the American microcosm can be seen.

Not enough hot women here

Are there any???

[a fan]

If migrants hadn't raped & murdered those women & girls, a native born citizen would have got 'em. ...at least that's what the stats indicate.

No. What the stats indicate was the you didn't care when Trump didn't fix the problem, and didn't care when a good first step bill was passed. The problem persisted, and you want to do is come here and pretend that there was no such thing as immigrant crime until Joe freaking Biden showed up three years ago so that you can come on a forum and tell us the Dems are bad.

It's petty, pointless, and beneath the education you obtained.

What's more? You know it. You know perfectly well you're trolling, and that Joe Biden didn't invent immigrant crime any more than any other President did.

Millions of your fellow Republicans ARE that stupid, I'll grant you that. But the idea that YOU are this dumb is just...a waste of your own time.

[a fan]

As the soldiers of the Minnesota National Guard stood idle for 3 days, watching their biggest city burn, it must have been inspiring to hear their Governor/Commander in Chief & former Command Master Sergeant dismiss them as untrained 19 year old cooks.

Oh, that's not what he said, or what he meant.

[old salt]

As the soldiers of the Minnesota National Guard stood idle for 3 days, watching their biggest city burn, it must have been inspiring to hear their Governor/Commander in Chief & former Command Master Sergeant dismiss them as untrained 19 year old cooks.

Oh, that's not what he said, or what he meant.

https://www.facebook.com/mnhousegop/vid ... 785210377/

[Farfromgeneva]

Fanlax, where the American microcosm can be seen.

Not enough hot women here

Are there any???

If there are my best advice would to not reveal that fact to me….

[old salt]

But at the time, Trump expressed support for Walz’s handling of the protests, according to a recording of a phone call obtained by ABC News — telling a group of governors that Walz “dominated,” and praising his leadership as an example for other states to follow.

“I know Gov. Walz is on the phone, and we spoke, and I fully agree with the way he handled it the last couple of days,” Trump told a group of governors on June 1, 2020, according to a recording of the call, in which he also called Walz an “excellent guy.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/07/politics ... index.html

So what ? It's the Governor's responsibility to make the call. He doesn't need WH or DoD approval.
Trump was exasperated at the delay but he praised Walz after he finally made the decision on the 3rd day.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna165302
A spokesperson for St. Paul Mayor Melvin Carter said he was in constant communication with Walz and state law enforcement partners throughout that entire week and that Carter spoke to Walz on the phone “immediately” after “unrest first spread” into St. Paul on May 28, adding that the “city’s formal written request for National Guard assistance was sent in written form that same day.”

[a fan]

As the soldiers of the Minnesota National Guard stood idle for 3 days, watching their biggest city burn, it must have been inspiring to hear their Governor/Commander in Chief & former Command Master Sergeant dismiss them as untrained 19 year old cooks.

Oh, that's not what he said, or what he meant.

https://www.facebook.com/mnhousegop/vid ... 785210377/

Walked right into it.

So here you are, not playing the dopey game you played with Trump yesterday, trying to tell us he was criticizing Maduro and dictators, when he did no such thing.....yet because Walz has that magic D by his name, you're not here making excuses for what comes out of his mouth.


Don't you get tired of playing these games?