Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
Spoken like the guy that went off on a rant last week and said others are beneath him.
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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
You mean where I said I have the high ground?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:44 pm Spoken like the guy that went off on a rant last week and said others are beneath him.
It's not opinion...it's fact. If you can recognize that Maddow can pump the airwaves with exaggerated hyperbole about TrumpNation......yet at the same time, can't recognize the same for FoxNation?
Yes. You are by definition on the low ground, drooling in your shoes.
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My post was not intended for you.a fan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:34 pmYou mean where I said I have the high ground?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:44 pm Spoken like the guy that went off on a rant last week and said others are beneath him.
It's not opinion...it's fact. If you can recognize that Maddow can pump the airwaves with exaggerated hyperbole about TrumpNation......yet at the same time, can't recognize the same for FoxNation?
Yes. You are by definition on the low ground, drooling in your shoes.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
Wait....so you agree I have the high ground, and therefore don't comment? (kidding)youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:39 pmMy post was not intended for you.a fan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:34 pmYou mean where I said I have the high ground?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:44 pm Spoken like the guy that went off on a rant last week and said others are beneath him.
It's not opinion...it's fact. If you can recognize that Maddow can pump the airwaves with exaggerated hyperbole about TrumpNation......yet at the same time, can't recognize the same for FoxNation?
Yes. You are by definition on the low ground, drooling in your shoes.
Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
Dial 2 for petty, irrelevant diversions, without considering ALL the factors which account for the success of Indian-American families.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:18 pmSome Americans don’t deserve to have the same rights as other Americans.a fan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:59 pmGreat. If it's such a bad deal....ban men from attending. Problem solved.
I give you a direct example of sorting by race and gender, and you come on here and act like that didn't count, and change the subject to how hard the school was. As if that has anything to do with anything.
Yeah. So pretend like you don't know that new Indian-Americans didn't have deal with segregation like Black Americans did, or get fired for "being Indian" like the gay community did. They were welcome to take jobs and attend schools that were out of reach for other groups....and most of them arrived AFTER some Civil Rights were acquired in Federal Court.
And I'm not FOR any of this stuff. But It's not all that hard to understand WHY some folks want to ensure that we're not screwing Americans out of opportunities because of (fill in the blank).
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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
Interestingly enough a lot of Canadians are very angry at the influx of Indian immigrants/students there.
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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
Illegal Jordanian migrants who ‘tried to breach’ Quantico base allowed to walk free after posting bail
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“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
And yet, the colloquy was fun.youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:39 pmMy post was not intended for you.a fan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:34 pmYou mean where I said I have the high ground?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:44 pm Spoken like the guy that went off on a rant last week and said others are beneath him.
It's not opinion...it's fact. If you can recognize that Maddow can pump the airwaves with exaggerated hyperbole about TrumpNation......yet at the same time, can't recognize the same for FoxNation?
Yes. You are by definition on the low ground, drooling in your shoes.
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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
What's said in jest is more than half meant.a fan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:05 pmWait....so you agree I have the high ground, and therefore don't comment? (kidding)youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:39 pmMy post was not intended for you.a fan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:34 pmYou mean where I said I have the high ground?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:44 pm Spoken like the guy that went off on a rant last week and said others are beneath him.
It's not opinion...it's fact. If you can recognize that Maddow can pump the airwaves with exaggerated hyperbole about TrumpNation......yet at the same time, can't recognize the same for FoxNation?
Yes. You are by definition on the low ground, drooling in your shoes.
Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
True! I'd peg it at 75%kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:58 amWhat's said in jest is more than half meant.a fan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:05 pmWait....so you agree I have the high ground, and therefore don't comment? (kidding)youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:39 pmMy post was not intended for you.a fan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:34 pmYou mean where I said I have the high ground?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:44 pm Spoken like the guy that went off on a rant last week and said others are beneath him.
It's not opinion...it's fact. If you can recognize that Maddow can pump the airwaves with exaggerated hyperbole about TrumpNation......yet at the same time, can't recognize the same for FoxNation?
Yes. You are by definition on the low ground, drooling in your shoes.
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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
Unlawful border crossings drop for 5th straight month, reaching lowest level since September 2020
Lower than Trump's last few months in office in 2020. And almost as low to a lot lower than most of Trump's 2019.
This is good news, right?
Lower than Trump's last few months in office in 2020. And almost as low to a lot lower than most of Trump's 2019.
This is good news, right?
Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
... not for the republiCON argument.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:46 pm Unlawful border crossings drop for 5th straight month, reaching lowest level since September 2020
Lower than Trump's last few months in office in 2020. And almost as low to a lot lower than most of Trump's 2019.
This is good news, right?
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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
Un-possible, fellas. Only Trumpy-pants can fix this fake issue. And whatever we do, we shouldn't just hand out work visas, and collect payroll taxes from oh, 10 million workers. Cause FoxNation thinks is MUCH smarter to pay their taxes for them.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:42 pm... not for the republiCON argument.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:46 pm Unlawful border crossings drop for 5th straight month, reaching lowest level since September 2020
Lower than Trump's last few months in office in 2020. And almost as low to a lot lower than most of Trump's 2019.
This is good news, right?
Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
Here's Trump....telling both the Forum and the Republican voters that you're a freaking drooling Moron if you believe in "migrant crime". Check the comments. They didn't hear that Trump just told them he made it up.a fan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:50 pmUn-possible, fellas. Only Trumpy-pants can fix this fake issue. And whatever we do, we shouldn't just hand out work visas, and collect payroll taxes from oh, 10 million workers. Cause FoxNation thinks is MUCH smarter to pay their taxes for them.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:42 pm... not for the republiCON argument.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:46 pm Unlawful border crossings drop for 5th straight month, reaching lowest level since September 2020
Lower than Trump's last few months in office in 2020. And almost as low to a lot lower than most of Trump's 2019.
This is good news, right?
I quote: "It's a new category. I came up with it. There's a new category called migrant crime".
If you're dumb enough to fall for this......AFTER he didn't lift a finger to fix the problem the last time he told you he'd fix it....... congratulations, you can count yourself among the dumbest, and most easily manipulated Americans in 2024. Take a bow.
Vote R's, guys. They're like totally gonna fix stuff, and Trump has the ultimate set of tools.
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Fwiw, I found this article to be helpful in my attempt to cut through the smoke and mirrors surrounding the blame riddled partisan sound byte ping pong match on the issue, with the election year obviously whipping up the rhetoric to a fever pitch.
In terms of America's compulsive need to point a finger of blame (in many cases resulting in systemic gridlock while the band plays on), this issue seems like one where there's plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Sorry if this has already been posted.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the- ... perplexed/
In terms of America's compulsive need to point a finger of blame (in many cases resulting in systemic gridlock while the band plays on), this issue seems like one where there's plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Sorry if this has already been posted.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the- ... perplexed/
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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
That's great. You understand the difference between the parties, right?WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:45 am Fwiw, I found this article to be helpful in my attempt to cut through the smoke and mirrors surrounding the blame riddled partisan sound byte ping pong match on the issue, with the election year obviously whipping up the rhetoric to a fever pitch.
In terms of America's compulsive need to point a finger of blame (in many cases resulting in systemic gridlock while the band plays on), this issue seems like one where there's plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Sorry if this has already been posted.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the- ... perplexed/
Which party has made illegal immigration and illegal workers their main campaign plank for 12 years, and which one has it somewhere in the back?
Republicans have LED with "we'll fix the immigration problem". And that's AFTER Trump made it his main focus 12 years ago while campaigning.
Question: when we elected Trump into office....tell me what he did to pass bills that actually addressed the problem?
And when you realize he didn't pass one single bill in four years, yet he's here again, telling you "no really, this time I'll fix it"......will you admit you're being played by the Republican party, who have NO INTENTION of ever giving up this wedge issue that keeps R voter angry?
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Guess we read different articles.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:49 amThat's great. You understand the difference between the parties, right?WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:45 am Fwiw, I found this article to be helpful in my attempt to cut through the smoke and mirrors surrounding the blame riddled partisan sound byte ping pong match on the issue, with the election year obviously whipping up the rhetoric to a fever pitch.
In terms of America's compulsive need to point a finger of blame (in many cases resulting in systemic gridlock while the band plays on), this issue seems like one where there's plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Sorry if this has already been posted.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the- ... perplexed/
Which party has made illegal immigration and illegal workers their main campaign plank for 12 years, and which one has it somewhere in the back?
Republicans have LED with "we'll fix the immigration problem". And that's AFTER Trump made it his main focus 12 years ago while campaigning.
Question: when we elected Trump into office....tell me what he did to pass bills that actually addressed the problem?
And when you realize he didn't pass one single bill in four years, yet he's here again, telling you "no really, this time I'll fix it"......will you admit you're being played by the Republican party, who have NO INTENTION of ever giving up this wedge issue that keeps R voter angry?
Fear not, though, I won't be voting for Trump, although unlike many here I loathe and lament the Democratic candidate being rammed down our throats to run against him. An R turd sandwich, or a D turd sandwich, is still a turd sandwich.
I refuse to grab pom poms (and my ankles) and sing Kamala's praises. The positioning of her as some sort of second coming is a marvel to behold, and I have no interest in the twisted game of surreal make believe theater that is the 2024 Kamala presidential election run. We already know folks here on this site can call out and insult Trump at an olympian level.
What is baffling is an unwillingness to put the same level of scrutiny on Harris. We all did it in 2019 during her laughably ludicrous run. One of the worst polling Democratic candidates in history (was she just ahead or just behind "The rent's are too damn high!" guy?) is poised to become the next Commander in Chief, but it's all going to be okay because - orange. Kamala scares the heck out of me. The question is why isn't she scaring the heck out of any others (with few exceptions) here?
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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
Find me a poster who is singing Kamala's praises as if she's a "second coming".WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:36 pm I refuse to grab pom poms (and my ankles) and sing Kamala's praises. The positioning of her as some sort of second coming is a marvel to behold, and I have no interest in the twisted game of surreal make believe theater that is the 2024 Kamala presidential election run. We already know folks here on this site can call out and insult Trump at an olympian level.
What are you talking about? No one here is happy with where we the Dems are. No one.WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:36 pm What is baffling is an unwillingness to put the same level of scrutiny on Harris.
What's she going to do? Tell me. All I've heard from her are platitudes about women's reproductive rights. That's about it.WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:36 pm We all did it in 2019 during her laughably ludicrous run. One of the worst polling Democratic candidates in history (was she just ahead or just behind "The rent's are too damn high!" guy?) is poised to become the next Commander in Chief, but it's all going to be okay because - orange. Kamala scares the heck out of me. The question is why isn't she scaring the heck out of any others (with few exceptions) here?
The ONLY question from where I sit is: what would she do with our military? That's it. On that question? I have NO CLUE.
She'll run the Federal bureaucracy better than Trump, that much I'm sure of....she'll just let them quietly do their jobs.
The rest? Senate picks our Judges. Congress passes bills. So..what's left?
Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?
Public safety is State and local. Fiscal policy is Congress. Taxes is Congress. Budget is Congress....but yes, she can sign or veto. But not without Congress.
National Security? Yep. You're right. What's she going to do differently?
And you have told me multiple times that Congress is in charge of immigration, which was your excuse as to why Trump didn't lift a finger to fix it.