Trump Rally and Possible Shooting or Explosions?

[youthathletics]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

[cradleandshoot]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

That seemed to be the issue from the jump. Anybody that in anyway was involved in the security detail should have been in communication with the secret service. The shooter was clearly spotted on the roof a long time before he fired the first shots. This security failure still has a long way to go in the investigation phase. It sadly at this stage of the game resembles a tragic comedy of errors.

[NattyBohChamps04]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

We were warning you about the incompetency / willfull criminality of the SS 3.5 years ago, but no one seemed to care.

Secret Service erased texts from two-day period spanning Jan. 6 attack, watchdog says

[a fan]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

That seemed to be the issue from the jump. Anybody that in anyway was involved in the security detail should have been in communication with the secret service. The shooter was clearly spotted on the roof a long time before he fired the first shots. This security failure still has a long way to go in the investigation phase. It sadly at this stage of the game resembles a tragic comedy of errors.

That's not on the SS. This is on the newly formed Department of Homeland security-----remember those guys? Burning through billions every year to do PRECISELY what's being asked here: to coordinate local, State, and Federal security and response teams in a post 9/11 world.

A world where we found that all the emergency and domestic terror prevention and response crews didn't have any way of talking to one another?

From their Mission Page, one of their jobs:

Ensure Mission-Driven Management and Integration
As a unified Department, DHS will leverage the collective capabilities of its operational Components to identify opportunities for jointness and integration. Through a comprehensive and collaborative approach, DHS will ensure its operators and employees have the necessary tools, resources, and authorities to execute its mission

[youthathletics]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

We were warning you about the incompetency / willfull criminality of the SS 3.5 years ago, but no one seemed to care.

Secret Service erased texts from two-day period spanning Jan. 6 attack, watchdog says

Not sure what you are implying or even what J6 has to do with anything.

[cradleandshoot]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

That seemed to be the issue from the jump. Anybody that in anyway was involved in the security detail should have been in communication with the secret service. The shooter was clearly spotted on the roof a long time before he fired the first shots. This security failure still has a long way to go in the investigation phase. It sadly at this stage of the game resembles a tragic comedy of errors.

That's not on the SS. This is on the newly formed Department of Homeland security-----remember those guys? Burning through billions every year to do PRECISELY what's being asked here: to coordinate local, State, and Federal security and response teams in a post 9/11 world.

A world where we found that all the emergency and domestic terror prevention and response crews didn't have any way of talking to one another?

From their Mission Page, one of their jobs:

Ensure Mission-Driven Management and Integration
As a unified Department, DHS will leverage the collective capabilities of its operational Components to identify opportunities for jointness and integration. Through a comprehensive and collaborative approach, DHS will ensure its operators and employees have the necessary tools, resources, and authorities to execute its mission

Betcha a steak dinner that DHS will state unequivocally they delegated security to the secret service. It will be a cold day in hell before DHS would take the blame for any screw up. You already know that.

[youthathletics]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

That seemed to be the issue from the jump. Anybody that in anyway was involved in the security detail should have been in communication with the secret service. The shooter was clearly spotted on the roof a long time before he fired the first shots. This security failure still has a long way to go in the investigation phase. It sadly at this stage of the game resembles a tragic comedy of errors.

That's not on the SS. This is on the newly formed Department of Homeland security-----remember those guys? Burning through billions every year to do PRECISELY what's being asked here: to coordinate local, State, and Federal security and response teams in a post 9/11 world.

A world where we found that all the emergency and domestic terror prevention and response crews didn't have any way of talking to one another?

From their Mission Page, one of their jobs:

Ensure Mission-Driven Management and Integration
As a unified Department, DHS will leverage the collective capabilities of its operational Components to identify opportunities for jointness and integration. Through a comprehensive and collaborative approach, DHS will ensure its operators and employees have the necessary tools, resources, and authorities to execute its mission

Not discounting your statement, and you may be on to something. When I listened to Bongino ( 12 year SS Agent) on the radio last week, he never mentioned DHS in his conversations while discussing all that goes in to these types of site specific details, at least I did not hear anything. Lots of talk about how a USSS leader/team is responsible for all the game planning on site, hold the onsite briefing, delegate parties and responsibilities, etc. I know with certainty that when military is dispatched to support these events, they direct report to a USSS liaison...now maybe USSS has an onsite DHS rep/team also onsite, but they are essentially invisible to the boots on the ground players.

Sounds like typical gov't....just keep adding layers bureaucracy so there is so much ambiguity, no one person/entity can be at fault.

[youthathletics]

Betcha a steak dinner that DHS will state unequivocally they delegated security to the secret service. It will be a cold day in hell before DHS would take the blame for any screw up. You already know that.

You'll likely be eating a steak of your choice if afan took that bet....but I am sure he's much wiser than to take that bet.

[NattyBohChamps04]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

We were warning you about the incompetency / willfull criminality of the SS 3.5 years ago, but no one seemed to care.

Secret Service erased texts from two-day period spanning Jan. 6 attack, watchdog says

Not sure what you are implying or even what J6 has to do with anything.

That the Secret Service has had issues for years. They erased sensitive data surrounding a major event. Pretty topical.

[a fan]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

That seemed to be the issue from the jump. Anybody that in anyway was involved in the security detail should have been in communication with the secret service. The shooter was clearly spotted on the roof a long time before he fired the first shots. This security failure still has a long way to go in the investigation phase. It sadly at this stage of the game resembles a tragic comedy of errors.

That's not on the SS. This is on the newly formed Department of Homeland security-----remember those guys? Burning through billions every year to do PRECISELY what's being asked here: to coordinate local, State, and Federal security and response teams in a post 9/11 world.

A world where we found that all the emergency and domestic terror prevention and response crews didn't have any way of talking to one another?

From their Mission Page, one of their jobs:

Ensure Mission-Driven Management and Integration
As a unified Department, DHS will leverage the collective capabilities of its operational Components to identify opportunities for jointness and integration. Through a comprehensive and collaborative approach, DHS will ensure its operators and employees have the necessary tools, resources, and authorities to execute its mission

Not discounting your statement, and you may be on to something. When I listened to Bongino ( 12 year SS Agent) on the radio last week, he never mentioned DHS in his conversations while discussing all that goes in to these types of site specific details, at least I did not hear anything. Lots of talk about how a USSS leader/team is responsible for all the game planning on site, hold the onsite briefing, delegate parties and responsibilities, etc. I know with certainty that when military is dispatched to support these events, they direct report to a USSS liaison...now maybe USSS has an onsite DHS rep/team also onsite, but they are essentially invisible to the boots on the ground players.

Sounds like typical gov't....just keep adding layers bureaucracy so there is so much ambiguity, no one person/entity can be at fault.

Well remember the entire sales pitch for the need for DoHS: that our responders are all on different channels, making coordination in an event like this impossible.

So we broke out the checkbook to do the one thing these organization didn't have a budget for: cross department communications.

Result? Trump was nearly killed. This is DoHS. Period. If this isn't what they do? What the F are we spending.$60B+ per year on?

[a fan]

Betcha a steak dinner that DHS will state unequivocally they delegated security to the secret service. It will be a cold day in hell before DHS would take the blame for any screw up. You already know that.

You'll likely be eating a steak of your choice if afan took that bet....but I am sure he's much wiser than to take that bet.

Yeah, totally not taking that one.

I'm annoyed that yet again, our press or Congress doesn't even THINK about why we have a the DoHS in the first place.....and then put a microphone under Mayorkas' nose...asking where the F the coordination of security for this stuff is.

We just showed the world that all of our SS assignments are vulnerable to communication gaps.

[cradleandshoot]

Betcha a steak dinner that DHS will state unequivocally they delegated security to the secret service. It will be a cold day in hell before DHS would take the blame for any screw up. You already know that.

You'll likely be eating a steak of your choice if afan took that bet....but I am sure he's much wiser than to take that bet.

Yeah, totally not taking that one.

I'm annoyed that yet again, our press or Congress doesn't even THINK about why we have a the DoHS in the first place.....and then put a microphone under Mayorkas' nose...asking where the F the coordination of security for this stuff is.

We just showed the world that all of our SS assignments are vulnerable to communication gaps.

[youthathletics]

Screen shots of texts and photos sent: https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1817767565621608716

PSA: seacoaster, be careful, this is from Collin Rugg, open with caution.

[ggait]

YA — Do you agree that the NY Times has been doing some phenomenol reporting on this story?

[cradleandshoot]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

We were warning you about the incompetency / willfull criminality of the SS 3.5 years ago, but no one seemed to care.

Secret Service erased texts from two-day period spanning Jan. 6 attack, watchdog says

Perhaps that message fell on deaf ears at DHS?

[Kismet]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

We were warning you about the incompetency / willfull criminality of the SS 3.5 years ago, but no one seemed to care.

Secret Service erased texts from two-day period spanning Jan. 6 attack, watchdog says

Perhaps that message fell on deaf ears at DHS?

Didn't even make it to the Secret Service let alone DHS

[Farfromgeneva]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

We were warning you about the incompetency / willfull criminality of the SS 3.5 years ago, but no one seemed to care.

Secret Service erased texts from two-day period spanning Jan. 6 attack, watchdog says

Perhaps that message fell on deaf ears at DHS?

Didn't even make it to the Secret Service let alone DHS

Dha came w 9/11 and can go away anytime as far as I’m concerned just superfluous and redundant grew govt (under reps sadly) and created less action and more rent seeking is all.

[youthathletics]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

We were warning you about the incompetency / willfull criminality of the SS 3.5 years ago, but no one seemed to care.

Secret Service erased texts from two-day period spanning Jan. 6 attack, watchdog says

Perhaps that message fell on deaf ears at DHS?

Didn't even make it to the Secret Service let alone DHS

Dha came w 9/11 and can go away anytime as far as I’m concerned just superfluous and redundant grew govt (under reps sadly) and created less action and more rent seeking is all.

It was needed, but I am not so sure how much value-add has taken place since. For instance, If I hold a high level DoD clearance and I have to now go to FBI or a military base or even work in a DoD NGO, I can not just provide my name and SSN and the query my status.....I have to fill out paperwork all over again. It seems that all these entities still do not play in the same sandbox or they just want you think that; it is frustrating as hell.

Maybe it was primarily to manage the Patriot Act scope and be a place that could wiggle out of accountability when applying surveillance to our own citizens.

[Farfromgeneva]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

We were warning you about the incompetency / willfull criminality of the SS 3.5 years ago, but no one seemed to care.

Secret Service erased texts from two-day period spanning Jan. 6 attack, watchdog says

Perhaps that message fell on deaf ears at DHS?

Didn't even make it to the Secret Service let alone DHS

Dha came w 9/11 and can go away anytime as far as I’m concerned just superfluous and redundant grew govt (under reps sadly) and created less action and more rent seeking is all.

It was needed, but I am not so sure how much value-add has taken place since. For instance, If I hold a high level DoD clearance and I have to now go to FBI or a military base or even work in a DoD NGO, I can not just provide my name and SSN and the query my status.....I have to fill out paperwork all over again. It seems that all these entities still do not play in the same sandbox or they just want you think that; it is frustrating as hell.

Maybe it was primarily to manage the Patriot Act scope and be a place that could wiggle out of accountability when applying surveillance to our own citizens.

I don’t mind pres bush as much as some but clear many of that package of laws post 9/11 were a complete waste-they all get power hungry and grab at the map. It’s a joke.

[a fan]

No COMMS with USSS

https://x.com/ryanafournier/status/1817 ... a82I2GssRg

We were warning you about the incompetency / willfull criminality of the SS 3.5 years ago, but no one seemed to care.

Secret Service erased texts from two-day period spanning Jan. 6 attack, watchdog says

Perhaps that message fell on deaf ears at DHS?

Didn't even make it to the Secret Service let alone DHS

Dha came w 9/11 and can go away anytime as far as I’m concerned just superfluous and redundant grew govt (under reps sadly) and created less action and more rent seeking is all.

It was needed, but I am not so sure how much value-add has taken place since. For instance, If I hold a high level DoD clearance and I have to now go to FBI or a military base or even work in a DoD NGO, I can not just provide my name and SSN and the query my status.....I have to fill out paperwork all over again. It seems that all these entities still do not play in the same sandbox or they just want you think that; it is frustrating as hell.

Maybe it was primarily to manage the Patriot Act scope and be a place that could wiggle out of accountability when applying surveillance to our own citizens.

No, no, no...the 9/11 commission found that "same sandbox" problem, and the DoHS was SUPPOSED to get rid of that. The very fact that you don't have unified clearance is a BIG problem. Because that means one Department can know someone is dangerous...while the other doesn't.

Which is what happened at the Trump rally, and that nearly got Trump killed. I'm livid.....all these billions and 20+ years later, and the problems are all still there. And Congress didn't so much as notice.