I’m owed $580k for contractual services performed on two deals having received a small partial payment in each and I have chosen not to sue. Suing is an expensive, painful and costly (non monetary) process. So yeah maybe someone could sue but I think we all talking about suing and going to court more than it’s reasonable practical. The kids athletic career is done and he may struggle finding a grad school if he wants that. Just like regular business you sue an employer and that what you’re suggesting.a fan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:29 amOh, I agree. I guess all I'm saying is: how far do they want to push it, and chance that they'll get sued.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:44 amThe ncaa has always just been an sro shield for the behaviors of 50 ora fan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:49 amRoster limit set by the NCAA is collusion. The NCAA can't limit the number of lacrosse players any more than they can limit the number of Physics Professors Hopkins hires.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:09 amOf course there all sorts of ways to execute a soft form of collision and businesses do it all the time. Just need these guys to get together and figure it out if they really want to.a fan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:16 pmWell, A. don't bring up the word fairness next time, and B. read the SCOTUS decision because Kavanaugh indirectly addresses the concept of fairness.coda wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:44 pmSaying there are 80 spots per team is not limiting the free market. There are no jobs that are unlimited. The rest is babbling nonsense that isn’t part of the discussiona fan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:46 pmWhat do all professional sports have that College Sports don't?
Unions, and collective bargaining agreements. Without them, it's ILLEGAL to tell an American how much they can earn, or collude to fix the number of employees that you can have.
If fairness was paramount, and trumps free market principles? The NCAA should have capped how much everyone involved in sports earned. Problem solved. Why do we have NCAA coaches making ten+ times what a tenured professor earns, if the foundational ideas are amateurism, and educating students?
Everyone wanted to get paid, and didn't think on...or care about...the consequences. We are where we are because of greed.
And C. I'm trying to be polite. Is it too much to ask the same of you?
You're used to the old, illegal system. You have to understand the SCOTUS told the NCAA they can't collude to limit the free market....for labor, or anything else. Throw out your old way of thinking. It's dead.
From where I sit, this is where the first lawsuits will come: from kids that had scholarships last season, but don't this year because of roster size cuts.
This assumes there are players smart enough to sue, or parents who are smart enough to sue. How many kids won't be able to attend their schools because of lost scholarships from roster cuts?
I'd assume that class action suits are possible. We'll see. I've never understood why basketball and football players didn't unionize, so maybe students are too passive to sue.....
So college heads. It’s the college presidents and ads. My point is there’s workarounds if they want to. All sorts of collusion happens in soft forms all the time in business. Doesn’t have to be the ncaa can be a group of heads.
If I'm a kid at a school on even a partial scholarship, and get kicked off the team because of roster limits? I'm suing. No question.
Because unless they're stupid, the NCAA lawyers will do anything to keep from standing in front of Kavanaugh again....... where he'll say "what part of my ruling was unclear to you? This is America, and an outside entity can't cap the number of employees a business has. "
I'm just not all that sure that students or their parents either read, or understand the SCOTUS ruling.
So I don’t disagree codified ncaa imposed roster limits are problematic but they can get to the same place without them anyways.