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You are relying on that one poll, as you know. The polls I mentioned have different results.
There are polls that show Joe doing better pre-drop than Harris is doing post drop apples to apples?

Please post those polls.

Looking at just your focused PA.

Emerson went from Trump +6 to Trump +2. NYT/Siena went from Trump +2 to Trump +1. Both of those are with third parties included.
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I saw it in a yahoo article yesterday. Sorry, not interested enough to spend the time to dig it out. I assure you, I have accurately summarized the article. I thought you read all the polls. Or do you only read the ones that support your position?
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I leave it to the computers to synthesize all the polls. I'll be interesting to see what they say.

In the interim, I'm just looking at swing state polls which, apples to apples, have data showing Joe before and Harris after.

All good.

Was just talking to other day to an old friend still in Philly. Reminiscing about our Friday night routine back in the day -- happy hour in Philly, load up for the weekend at Canal Liquors, pit stop at Webers drive thru, out and about in Avalon or Stone Harbor by sunset.

Have a good weekend.
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New Hampshire poll today dhows Harris ahead

Poll of voters 18-34 shows Harris ahead 60-40.

Snother national poll showed Harris ahesd by 2%.

I do not recall the names of the polls. Truth Social shoukd be filled w low rent Trump messages
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New Hampshire poll today shows Harris ahead

Poll of voters 18-34 shows Harris ahead 60-40.

Another national poll showed Harris ahesd by 2%.

I do not recall the names of the polls. Truth Social shoukd be filled w low rent Trump messages tonight
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ggait wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:02 pm I leave it to the computers to synthesize all the polls. I'll be interesting to see what they say.

In the interim, I'm just looking at swing state polls which, apples to apples, have data showing Joe before and Harris after.

All good.

Was just talking to other day to an old friend still in Philly. Reminiscing about our Friday night routine back in the day -- happy hour in Philly, load up for the weekend at Canal Liquors, pit stop at Webers drive thru, out and about in Avalon or Stone Harbor by sunset.

Have a good weekend.
Webers is still going strong. One of my favorite spots. Always worry that they will close since they are only open half the year.
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njbill wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 11:04 amPeople always think the VP nominee matters, but it really doesn't. Maybe Tina Fey in 2008, but that was an outlier. People make their decision on who is on top of the ticket. For frigs sake, HW won with Quayle.
I generally agree...although in the present case, a strong VP pick may very well help allay some voters fears or trepidations about having Harris in the top spot.

I like Kelly a lot but there is the question of his Senate seat. Like my governor, Shapiro, but a woman and a Jewish-American might be a bit too much to swallow. Shapiro-Moore or Kelly-Shapiro 2028!

Did you see the news about the letter signed by former DoJ officials of BOTH PARTIES warning of the perils of a 2nd Trump Term??

Fearing a Trump takeover, Justice Department alumni endorse Kamala Harris

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Interesting. Sounds a lot like it’s about control:

https://twitter.com/KamalaHQ/status/1816648974549369095
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old salt wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:56 am
a fan wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:50 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:47 pm That's why I keep pointing out that you (D)'s need to ask yourself why Trump remains so popular.
It's because so much of the population fears the looney (D) policies & what they are doing to our country.
Last time: why are you and your R buddies supporting Trump, and not any other Republicans for President for 12 years in a row?
Trump was never my preferred (R) candidate & there are/were (D) candidates I'd vote for instead of Trump, some I've mentioned before.

Jeh Johnson or Jim Webb in past elections. Joe Manchin in 2024 or Mark Kelly in 2024 & beyond.

Here's a little reminder from the past about why I fear Dems in control of the DoJ & the IC.
Past abuses of power like this make it easy for Trump to sell his deep state vendetta claims to his supporters.
I tried to tell you in real time, as it was happening -- Flynn was the appetizer. Trump was the main course.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fbis-f ... 1588288438
The FBI’s Flynn Outrage
New documents shock the conscience and demonstrate the need for accountability.
By Kimberley A. Strassel, April 30, 2020

The newest Federal Bureau of Investigation documents in the case of former White House national security adviser Mike Flynn are stunning in themselves. But the totality of Mr. Flynn’s treatment shocks the conscience.

Mr. Flynn in 2017 pleaded guilty to a single count of lying to FBI agents about conversations he had with Sergey Kislyak, Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. Thanks to new documents the feds belatedly turned over to his attorneys, we know the FBI engineered this “crime.” Handwritten notes from former FBI counterintelligence head Bill Priestap, made before the bureau’s interview of Mr. Flynn, ask the following: “What is our goal? Truth/Admission, or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?”

One of the frustrations of the Trump-Russia “collusion” narrative is that the evidence of law enforcement’s abuse of power keeps emerging in dribs and drabs. To grasp the outrageous conduct fully, the Flynn documents need to be added to what we already know. The overall evidence paints a scandalous picture: Having labored and abysmally failed in 2016 to build a case that Mr. Flynn was an agent of the Russians, the FBI and Justice Department changed gears—rifling through his communications, inventing a fake crime, and entrapping him on a “lying” charge.

The latest documents reveal the FBI was officially closing its Flynn case on Jan. 4, 2017. The FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane team spent 2016 checking “databases” for “derogatory” information on him, running down accusations that he had ties to Russians. They struck out, and the closing document admits Mr. Flynn “was no longer a viable candidate” for investigation. Then, suddenly, also on Jan. 4, FBI agent Peter Strzok sends a text saying: “Hey, if you haven’t closed [the Flynn case], don’t do so yet.” Mr. Strzok explained: “seventh floor involved”—a reference to FBI top brass.

What changed? In late December, Mr. Flynn spoke to Mr. Kislyak. Federal law gives investigators the authority to wiretap foreigners but also requires strict privacy protections for U.S. citizens with whom they speak. The Obama administration superseded those protections and “unmasked” Mr. Flynn in the days following his discussions. They later leaked the classified contents of the call to the press.

The snooping gained them nothing substantive. Mr. Flynn’s conversations were lawful and routine. So Justice Department and FBI officials instead manufactured the absurd theory that Mr. Flynn had violated the Logan Act of 1799, which bars citizens from engaging in unauthorized negotiations in disputes between the U.S. and foreign governments. No one has ever been convicted of violating the act. This week’s handwritten notes show that among the FBI’s hopes in interviewing Mr. Flynn was to “get him to admit to breaking the Logan Act.”

The real goal was to trap him. Remember, the FBI didn’t need to ask Mr. Flynn what he’d said to the Russian ambassador; they had a recording. The only reason for an interview was to coax Mr. Flynn into saying something at odds with that transcript. They worked hard at it. Then-Director James Comey has previously bragged that the FBI went around the White House legal counsel to make sure Mr. Flynn had no lawyer present.

This week’s documents include an email from former FBI lawyer Lisa Page debating ways for the bureau to get around its standard formal admonition against lying, suggesting agents just “casually slip that in” when talking to Mr. Flynn. A document from former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe says that he urged Mr. Flynn to conduct the interview without a lawyer, and that the FBI deliberately dispensed with the admonition altogether.

The abuse then continued under former special counsel Robert Mueller. Mr. Flynn initially explained that he misremembered what he’d discussed with the Russian, a highly plausible claim. But Mr. Mueller’s lawyers pursued him to near penury and threatened to prosecute his son. He succumbed and agreed to a plea deal.

Perhaps the most important aspect of this week’s documents is what isn’t in them. The FBI expresses no concern that Mr. Flynn was “colluding” with Russia or otherwise threatening national security—supposedly the rationale for the FBI’s intrusive investigation. By this point, it just wanted a scalp, a means to keep its broader narrative rolling.

The FBI exists to investigate crimes, not to create them. Some might add this shameful behavior to the long list of the FBI’s “collusion” malfeasance: the surveillance-court abuse, the Steele dossier, the leaks. But the Flynn case is something different. This isn’t the FBI playing fast and loose with sources or the courts. This is law enforcement abusing its most tyrannical power—to strip citizens of their reputations, their livelihoods and their liberty.

The FBI’s treatment of Mr. Flynn lives up to Americans’ worst fears. Attorney General William Barr was right to order a review of the case. Now someone must be held to account.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics ... index.html
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dislaxxic wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:14 pm
njbill wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 11:04 amPeople always think the VP nominee matters, but it really doesn't. Maybe Tina Fey in 2008, but that was an outlier. People make their decision on who is on top of the ticket. For frigs sake, HW won with Quayle.
I generally agree...although in the present case, a strong VP pick may very well help allay some voters fears or trepidations about having Harris in the top spot.

I like Kelly a lot but there is the question of his Senate seat. Like my governor, Shapiro, but a woman and a Jewish-American might be a bit too much to swallow. Shapiro-Moore or Kelly-Shapiro 2028!

Did you see the news about the letter signed by former DoJ officials of BOTH PARTIES warning of the perils of a 2nd Trump Term??

Fearing a Trump takeover, Justice Department alumni endorse Kamala Harris

..
It certainly can’t hurt to get a strong VP nominee. Contrast him or her with the dumpster fire of the couch f*cker. Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump is trying to check into the rules to see if he can get rid of him. Maybe JD should make like Thomas Eggleton and say he had electroshock therapy.
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Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:28 am Keep defending idiots who you claim not to support. Your attempts at humor are not even humorous.
Your latest hero now wants to criminalize women traveling out of state for healthcare. Brilliant.

After listening to Vance, now can understand why Neanderthals went extinct! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Have you checked to see if your brown shirt is ready at the cleaners yet? :lol:
I support & defend Vance. I've never posted anything negative about him....& I like/rescue cats too.
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jhu72 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:36 pm .... a democratic voter poll has chosen Mark Kelly by a 2:1 margin over the field, as the most desirable VP candidate.
He could be the President if you nominated him.
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Fox News poll.

Mich and PA tied. Trump +1 in Wiscy.
Boycott stupid. Country over party.
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The GOP nominee:

“Get out and vote just this time. You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years it will be fixed. It'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore...In four years you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good you’re not gonna have to vote.”

Huh. But you like his policies.

Here’s the clip. It is literally anti-American to support this person:

https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/stat ... de=profile
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old salt wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 11:19 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:28 am Keep defending idiots who you claim not to support. Your attempts at humor are not even humorous.
Your latest hero now wants to criminalize women traveling out of state for healthcare. Brilliant.

After listening to Vance, now can understand why Neanderthals went extinct! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Have you checked to see if your brown shirt is ready at the cleaners yet? :lol:
I support & defend Vance. I've never posted anything negative about him....& I like/rescue cats too.
Nice. He supports a guy who would track down your daughter before she left the state to force her to carry even a medically impossible pregnancy to term. And of course he supports capitulation to the Czar, and the end of a sovereign nation, its culture and its separate identity. Just a f@cking disgrace.
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Haley, in an review on CNN:

Tapper: “You were asked, 'Do you think Donald Trump would follow the constitution if he were elected to a second term?' You said, 'I don't know.' Isn't that pretty damning?”

Haley: “I hope that he does.”
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ggait wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:11 am Fox News poll.

Mich and PA tied. Trump +1 in Wiscy.
Saw that last night and thought of you. :lol:
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old salt wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 11:19 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:28 am Keep defending idiots who you claim not to support. Your attempts at humor are not even humorous.
Your latest hero now wants to criminalize women traveling out of state for healthcare. Brilliant.

After listening to Vance, now can understand why Neanderthals went extinct! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Have you checked to see if your brown shirt is ready at the cleaners yet? :lol:
I support & defend Vance. I've never posted anything negative about him....& I like/rescue cats too.
Perhaps makes you just as big a jerkoff as Vance.
Troll on, sailor.. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
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