NESCAC

[callaxdad]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

ND lost to Gtown, Gtown lost to Denver, Denver lost to Yale, Yale lost to Princeton (twice), Princeton lost to Brown, Brown lost to Tufts......Tufts is the D3 and D1 National Champion!!! How dare I use "actual results" to reinforce my point!! Complete sh!t logic, i.e. one time examples, but what else would you expect from a jackass.

[shorelax12]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

ND lost to Gtown, Gtown lost to Denver, Denver lost to Yale, Yale lost to Princeton (twice), Princeton lost to Brown, Brown lost to Tufts......Tufts is the D3 and D1 National Champion!!! How dare I use "actual results" to reinforce my point!! Complete sh!t logic, i.e. one time examples, but what else would you expect from a jackass.

Amazing how a hypothetical question, with no possibility of ever happening, has devolved into such a mindless back and forth..of course, usual suspects leading the charge

[callaxdad]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

ND lost to Gtown, Gtown lost to Denver, Denver lost to Yale, Yale lost to Princeton (twice), Princeton lost to Brown, Brown lost to Tufts......Tufts is the D3 and D1 National Champion!!! How dare I use "actual results" to reinforce my point!! Complete sh!t logic, i.e. one time examples, but what else would you expect from a jackass.

Amazing how a hypothetical question, with no possibility of ever happening, has devolved into such a mindless back and forth..of course, usual suspects leading the charge

Thanks for your input, oh wise one. Sorry if you don’t like the banter… Whatever.

[NotLikeUs]

When it comes to athletic facilities, are all NESCAC schools essentially the same? Are there some that stick out (for better or for worse) more than others?

Based on my experiences over the last 4 years (w/some color from the mid-late 80s) w/regard to the sports I watch/care about, I'll say Colby at 1, Bowdoin at 2 (because of the awesome rink and that the lax field is in a graveyard basically), Amherst, Williams, Trinity all pretty good (all have good rinks), haven't been to Midd in a cpl decades and Hammy was in New York state when I played so could not be in Nescac, Wesleyan meh (altho bird cage is cool), CC also meh (both CC and Wes have the same old rinks I played in), I love Bates middle of campus lax field, but doesn't have hockey. Tufts has a crappy rink, but Bello is cool and the Tisch center is fine as are the new tennis courts and baseball and football stadiums.

Thank you for the reply and information. I will add it to my growing NESCAC file

[choochooCharlie]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

ND lost to Gtown, Gtown lost to Denver, Denver lost to Yale, Yale lost to Princeton (twice), Princeton lost to Brown, Brown lost to Tufts......Tufts is the D3 and D1 National Champion!!! How dare I use "actual results" to reinforce my point!! Complete sh!t logic, i.e. one time examples, but what else would you expect from a jackass.

When did Brown lose to Tufts? Oh, you’re keeping score in scrimmages again… that’s cute.

[callaxdad]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

ND lost to Gtown, Gtown lost to Denver, Denver lost to Yale, Yale lost to Princeton (twice), Princeton lost to Brown, Brown lost to Tufts......Tufts is the D3 and D1 National Champion!!! How dare I use "actual results" to reinforce my point!! Complete sh!t logic, i.e. one time examples, but what else would you expect from a jackass.

When did Brown lose to Tufts? Oh, you’re keeping score in scrimmages again… that’s cute.

Hehehehe! Ok, a slight exaggeration. But, by your one game logic, Brown could be the Natty Champs. And, according to a couple of my good friends who are Brown dads and were at the scrimmage, Tufts was the better team that day. And yes, they were pissed off about it!!

[callaxdad]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

ND lost to Gtown, Gtown lost to Denver, Denver lost to Yale, Yale lost to Princeton (twice), Princeton lost to Brown, Brown lost to Tufts......Tufts is the D3 and D1 National Champion!!! How dare I use "actual results" to reinforce my point!! Complete sh!t logic, i.e. one time examples, but what else would you expect from a jackass.

When did Brown lose to Tufts? Oh, you’re keeping score in scrimmages again… that’s cute.

scrimmages? false.

[ah23]

Their style of play is also open for discussion but, only a lax neophyte would say their style doesn’t translate at any level.

Given that a former Tufts player was the OC at Brown when they had the nation's #1 scoring offense and went to the national semifinals, then was the OC at UVA for two national championships + multiple deep tourney runs with top 5/10 offenses...not much of an argument.

[choochooCharlie]

ND lost to Gtown, Gtown lost to Denver, Denver lost to Yale, Yale lost to Princeton (twice), Princeton lost to Brown, Brown lost to Tufts......Tufts is the D3 and D1 National Champion!!! How dare I use "actual results" to reinforce my point!! Complete sh!t logic, i.e. one time examples, but what else would you expect from a jackass.

When did Brown lose to Tufts? Oh, you’re keeping score in scrimmages again… that’s cute.

again? false.

Yes, again.

Brown jumped out to a 5-0 lead. It was 5-2 at the end of 1. Tufts won the second quarter 4-3. Third period was 3-3. Not sure what the final score was, maybe 15-10 Brown.

This conversation is becoming redundant and semantic driven. Is there any word on Middlebury? Mendoza’s visit was literally right before the assistant coaching spot was listed publicly, however the listing remains to this day. There has to be someone who wants to take on the challenge up there.

[shorelax12]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

ND lost to Gtown, Gtown lost to Denver, Denver lost to Yale, Yale lost to Princeton (twice), Princeton lost to Brown, Brown lost to Tufts......Tufts is the D3 and D1 National Champion!!! How dare I use "actual results" to reinforce my point!! Complete sh!t logic, i.e. one time examples, but what else would you expect from a jackass.

Amazing how a hypothetical question, with no possibility of ever happening, has devolved into such a mindless back and forth..of course, usual suspects leading the charge

Thanks for your input, oh wise one. Sorry if you don’t like the banter… Whatever.

You are quite welcome. Banter is great, the nonstop condescending commentary is obnoxious. Somebody call Laxdad, I'm starting to long for the good old NJIT days

[callaxdad]

ND lost to Gtown, Gtown lost to Denver, Denver lost to Yale, Yale lost to Princeton (twice), Princeton lost to Brown, Brown lost to Tufts......Tufts is the D3 and D1 National Champion!!! How dare I use "actual results" to reinforce my point!! Complete sh!t logic, i.e. one time examples, but what else would you expect from a jackass.

When did Brown lose to Tufts? Oh, you’re keeping score in scrimmages again… that’s cute.

again? false.

Yes, again.

Brown jumped out to a 5-0 lead. It was 5-2 at the end of 1. Tufts won the second quarter 4-3. Third period was 3-3. Not sure what the final score was, maybe 15-10 Brown.

This conversation is becoming redundant and semantic driven. Is there any word on Middlebury? Mendoza’s visit was literally right before the assistant coaching spot was listed publicly, however the listing remains to this day. There has to be someone who wants to take on the challenge up there.

It's the same scrimmage, singular. Not scrimmages. Sorry to nit pick, or for redundancies and semantics as you say but, upon fact check, false.

[callaxdad]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

ND lost to Gtown, Gtown lost to Denver, Denver lost to Yale, Yale lost to Princeton (twice), Princeton lost to Brown, Brown lost to Tufts......Tufts is the D3 and D1 National Champion!!! How dare I use "actual results" to reinforce my point!! Complete sh!t logic, i.e. one time examples, but what else would you expect from a jackass.

Amazing how a hypothetical question, with no possibility of ever happening, has devolved into such a mindless back and forth..of course, usual suspects leading the charge

Thanks for your input, oh wise one. Sorry if you don’t like the banter… Whatever.

You are quite welcome. Banter is great, the nonstop condescending commentary is obnoxious. Somebody call Laxdad, I'm starting to long for the good old NJIT days

Perhaps I should have been less sarcastic and more direct and said, thanks for your input, oh self-righteous, self appointed hall monitor!! Haha.

[justanotherperson]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

You’re right, how dare I use an example of an actual result to reinforce my point. It’s far better to use a hypothetical that didn’t happen, like you did, in order to then project my reaction “if” that were to happen.

The reality is that the gap between top 5 DIII and top 35 DIII is WAAAAY bigger than the same grouping gap at the DI level.

But back to what I said- 30-35 DI are 30 Delaware
31 UAlbany 32 Navy 33 Bryant 34 Sacred Heart 35 Providence. Here’s a hypothetical for ya, have Hamilton play each one of them 5 times. How many games do they win? I’m sticking to 0.

How dare you use "an example" (one example) to reinforce your point? Cmon man; you will figure it out eventually that you are arguing against yourself (hint - one example actually doesnt reinforce your point as in the larger context represents a statistical anomaly but I think I will leave it at that and hopefully you will maybe understand one day). BTW HP beating duke was not hypothetical, South sudan almost beating the USA was not hypothetical (USA may not win the gold this year though), sacred heart, holy cross etc etc

But yes we have to play in hypotheticals because Tufts is not going D1 anytime soon. Not sure why you are talking about Hamilton, but we are not talking about them playing teams 30-50; we are talking about Tufts. As many much more well informed astute observers have pointed out (I like the hoops 8/9 analogy), the margin is much thinner. I have no doubt if Tufts had a few years of D1 recruiting under its belt, if they played Bryant, SH and Providence 10 times, 5-5 would not be a surprise. I think even as of today they would do much better against 36 Manhattan, 40 Quinnipiac, 43 LIU, 44 Marist, 45 Cleve St, 48 Merrimack as examples.

I think what underlies this "discussion" and our biases is the old "D3 athletes - can they compete in D1?" argument and I am firmly in the camp that there are D1 caliber athletes that chose D3 (NESCAC, Swat, W&L being some of them) for academic reasons and that the bottom 12 D1 teams are really just not all that good. Then there is the other camp that thinks the gap between a D1 and D3 athlete is soooooo wide that a D3 team could never compete (which I believe to be true for football, hockey, bball). Please dont resurrect this argument; just pointing out why people think Tufts could never compete in D1. I actually think they would fit in very nicely in the Patriot.

[laxdad1434]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

You’re right, how dare I use an example of an actual result to reinforce my point. It’s far better to use a hypothetical that didn’t happen, like you did, in order to then project my reaction “if” that were to happen.

The reality is that the gap between top 5 DIII and top 35 DIII is WAAAAY bigger than the same grouping gap at the DI level.

But back to what I said- 30-35 DI are 30 Delaware
31 UAlbany 32 Navy 33 Bryant 34 Sacred Heart 35 Providence. Here’s a hypothetical for ya, have Hamilton play each one of them 5 times. How many games do they win? I’m sticking to 0.

How dare you use "an example" (one example) to reinforce your point? Cmon man; you will figure it out eventually that you are arguing against yourself (hint - one example actually doesnt reinforce your point as in the larger context represents a statistical anomaly but I think I will leave it at that and hopefully you will maybe understand one day). BTW HP beating duke was not hypothetical, South sudan almost beating the USA was not hypothetical (USA may not win the gold this year though), sacred heart, holy cross etc etc

But yes we have to play in hypotheticals because Tufts is not going D1 anytime soon. Not sure why you are talking about Hamilton, but we are not talking about them playing teams 30-50; we are talking about Tufts. As many much more well informed astute observers have pointed out (I like the hoops 8/9 analogy), the margin is much thinner. I have no doubt if Tufts had a few years of D1 recruiting under its belt, if they played Bryant, SH and Providence 10 times, 5-5 would not be a surprise. I think even as of today they would do much better against 36 Manhattan, 40 Quinnipiac, 43 LIU, 44 Marist, 45 Cleve St, 48 Merrimack as examples.

I think what underlies this "discussion" and our biases is the old "D3 athletes - can they compete in D1?" argument and I am firmly in the camp that there are D1 caliber athletes that chose D3 (NESCAC, Swat, W&L being some of them) for academic reasons and that the bottom 12 D1 teams are really just not all that good. Then there is the other camp that thinks the gap between a D1 and D3 athlete is soooooo wide that a D3 team could never compete (which I believe to be true for football, hockey, bball). Please dont resurrect this argument; just pointing out why people think Tufts could never compete in D1. I actually think they would fit in very nicely in the Patriot.

They would be dead last in the Patriot. They would fit in at the bottom of the MAAC. Hypothetically

[shorelax12]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

ND lost to Gtown, Gtown lost to Denver, Denver lost to Yale, Yale lost to Princeton (twice), Princeton lost to Brown, Brown lost to Tufts......Tufts is the D3 and D1 National Champion!!! How dare I use "actual results" to reinforce my point!! Complete sh!t logic, i.e. one time examples, but what else would you expect from a jackass.

Amazing how a hypothetical question, with no possibility of ever happening, has devolved into such a mindless back and forth..of course, usual suspects leading the charge

Thanks for your input, oh wise one. Sorry if you don’t like the banter… Whatever.

You are quite welcome. Banter is great, the nonstop condescending commentary is obnoxious. Somebody call Laxdad, I'm starting to long for the good old NJIT days

Perhaps I should have been less sarcastic and more direct and said, thanks for your input, oh self-righteous, self appointed hall monitor!! Haha.

Looks like somebody is headed to a timeout in their own forum again...

[Unknown Participant]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

You’re right, how dare I use an example of an actual result to reinforce my point. It’s far better to use a hypothetical that didn’t happen, like you did, in order to then project my reaction “if” that were to happen.

The reality is that the gap between top 5 DIII and top 35 DIII is WAAAAY bigger than the same grouping gap at the DI level.

But back to what I said- 30-35 DI are 30 Delaware
31 UAlbany 32 Navy 33 Bryant 34 Sacred Heart 35 Providence. Here’s a hypothetical for ya, have Hamilton play each one of them 5 times. How many games do they win? I’m sticking to 0.

How dare you use "an example" (one example) to reinforce your point? Cmon man; you will figure it out eventually that you are arguing against yourself (hint - one example actually doesnt reinforce your point as in the larger context represents a statistical anomaly but I think I will leave it at that and hopefully you will maybe understand one day). BTW HP beating duke was not hypothetical, South sudan almost beating the USA was not hypothetical (USA may not win the gold this year though), sacred heart, holy cross etc etc

But yes we have to play in hypotheticals because Tufts is not going D1 anytime soon. Not sure why you are talking about Hamilton, but we are not talking about them playing teams 30-50; we are talking about Tufts. As many much more well informed astute observers have pointed out (I like the hoops 8/9 analogy), the margin is much thinner. I have no doubt if Tufts had a few years of D1 recruiting under its belt, if they played Bryant, SH and Providence 10 times, 5-5 would not be a surprise. I think even as of today they would do much better against 36 Manhattan, 40 Quinnipiac, 43 LIU, 44 Marist, 45 Cleve St, 48 Merrimack as examples.

I think what underlies this "discussion" and our biases is the old "D3 athletes - can they compete in D1?" argument and I am firmly in the camp that there are D1 caliber athletes that chose D3 (NESCAC, Swat, W&L being some of them) for academic reasons and that the bottom 12 D1 teams are really just not all that good. Then there is the other camp that thinks the gap between a D1 and D3 athlete is soooooo wide that a D3 team could never compete (which I believe to be true for football, hockey, bball). Please dont resurrect this argument; just pointing out why people think Tufts could never compete in D1. I actually think they would fit in very nicely in the Patriot.

They would be dead last in the Patriot. They would fit in at the bottom of the MAAC. Hypothetically

Dead last in the Patriot eh? Do you even watch college lacrosse? Have you heard of Holy Cross?

[laxdad1434]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

You’re right, how dare I use an example of an actual result to reinforce my point. It’s far better to use a hypothetical that didn’t happen, like you did, in order to then project my reaction “if” that were to happen.

The reality is that the gap between top 5 DIII and top 35 DIII is WAAAAY bigger than the same grouping gap at the DI level.

But back to what I said- 30-35 DI are 30 Delaware
31 UAlbany 32 Navy 33 Bryant 34 Sacred Heart 35 Providence. Here’s a hypothetical for ya, have Hamilton play each one of them 5 times. How many games do they win? I’m sticking to 0.

How dare you use "an example" (one example) to reinforce your point? Cmon man; you will figure it out eventually that you are arguing against yourself (hint - one example actually doesnt reinforce your point as in the larger context represents a statistical anomaly but I think I will leave it at that and hopefully you will maybe understand one day). BTW HP beating duke was not hypothetical, South sudan almost beating the USA was not hypothetical (USA may not win the gold this year though), sacred heart, holy cross etc etc

But yes we have to play in hypotheticals because Tufts is not going D1 anytime soon. Not sure why you are talking about Hamilton, but we are not talking about them playing teams 30-50; we are talking about Tufts. As many much more well informed astute observers have pointed out (I like the hoops 8/9 analogy), the margin is much thinner. I have no doubt if Tufts had a few years of D1 recruiting under its belt, if they played Bryant, SH and Providence 10 times, 5-5 would not be a surprise. I think even as of today they would do much better against 36 Manhattan, 40 Quinnipiac, 43 LIU, 44 Marist, 45 Cleve St, 48 Merrimack as examples.

I think what underlies this "discussion" and our biases is the old "D3 athletes - can they compete in D1?" argument and I am firmly in the camp that there are D1 caliber athletes that chose D3 (NESCAC, Swat, W&L being some of them) for academic reasons and that the bottom 12 D1 teams are really just not all that good. Then there is the other camp that thinks the gap between a D1 and D3 athlete is soooooo wide that a D3 team could never compete (which I believe to be true for football, hockey, bball). Please dont resurrect this argument; just pointing out why people think Tufts could never compete in D1. I actually think they would fit in very nicely in the Patriot.

They would be dead last in the Patriot. They would fit in at the bottom of the MAAC. Hypothetically

Dead last in the Patriot eh? Do you even watch college lacrosse? Have you heard of Holy Cross?

Dead Last!

[callaxdad]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

You’re right, how dare I use an example of an actual result to reinforce my point. It’s far better to use a hypothetical that didn’t happen, like you did, in order to then project my reaction “if” that were to happen.

The reality is that the gap between top 5 DIII and top 35 DIII is WAAAAY bigger than the same grouping gap at the DI level.

But back to what I said- 30-35 DI are 30 Delaware
31 UAlbany 32 Navy 33 Bryant 34 Sacred Heart 35 Providence. Here’s a hypothetical for ya, have Hamilton play each one of them 5 times. How many games do they win? I’m sticking to 0.

How dare you use "an example" (one example) to reinforce your point? Cmon man; you will figure it out eventually that you are arguing against yourself (hint - one example actually doesnt reinforce your point as in the larger context represents a statistical anomaly but I think I will leave it at that and hopefully you will maybe understand one day). BTW HP beating duke was not hypothetical, South sudan almost beating the USA was not hypothetical (USA may not win the gold this year though), sacred heart, holy cross etc etc

But yes we have to play in hypotheticals because Tufts is not going D1 anytime soon. Not sure why you are talking about Hamilton, but we are not talking about them playing teams 30-50; we are talking about Tufts. As many much more well informed astute observers have pointed out (I like the hoops 8/9 analogy), the margin is much thinner. I have no doubt if Tufts had a few years of D1 recruiting under its belt, if they played Bryant, SH and Providence 10 times, 5-5 would not be a surprise. I think even as of today they would do much better against 36 Manhattan, 40 Quinnipiac, 43 LIU, 44 Marist, 45 Cleve St, 48 Merrimack as examples.

I think what underlies this "discussion" and our biases is the old "D3 athletes - can they compete in D1?" argument and I am firmly in the camp that there are D1 caliber athletes that chose D3 (NESCAC, Swat, W&L being some of them) for academic reasons and that the bottom 12 D1 teams are really just not all that good. Then there is the other camp that thinks the gap between a D1 and D3 athlete is soooooo wide that a D3 team could never compete (which I believe to be true for football, hockey, bball). Please dont resurrect this argument; just pointing out why people think Tufts could never compete in D1. I actually think they would fit in very nicely in the Patriot.

They would be dead last in the Patriot. They would fit in at the bottom of the MAAC. Hypothetically

Isn't Holy Cross in the Patriot League?

[callaxdad]

What about nationally? 30-35th

Hamilton beats the 30-35th ranked DI team in OT?

Dream big bro.

I dont think 30-35th is dreaming big

But I am glad you spit out our drink because when a team like High Point beats a team like Duke, I am guessing your one game anecdote means either Hp is top 5 or Duke is bottom 20.

I love how you keep going back to the well with your one time examples. I guess USA bball is trash because South Sudan almost beat them and on and on and on...

You’re right, how dare I use an example of an actual result to reinforce my point. It’s far better to use a hypothetical that didn’t happen, like you did, in order to then project my reaction “if” that were to happen.

The reality is that the gap between top 5 DIII and top 35 DIII is WAAAAY bigger than the same grouping gap at the DI level.

But back to what I said- 30-35 DI are 30 Delaware
31 UAlbany 32 Navy 33 Bryant 34 Sacred Heart 35 Providence. Here’s a hypothetical for ya, have Hamilton play each one of them 5 times. How many games do they win? I’m sticking to 0.

How dare you use "an example" (one example) to reinforce your point? Cmon man; you will figure it out eventually that you are arguing against yourself (hint - one example actually doesnt reinforce your point as in the larger context represents a statistical anomaly but I think I will leave it at that and hopefully you will maybe understand one day). BTW HP beating duke was not hypothetical, South sudan almost beating the USA was not hypothetical (USA may not win the gold this year though), sacred heart, holy cross etc etc

But yes we have to play in hypotheticals because Tufts is not going D1 anytime soon. Not sure why you are talking about Hamilton, but we are not talking about them playing teams 30-50; we are talking about Tufts. As many much more well informed astute observers have pointed out (I like the hoops 8/9 analogy), the margin is much thinner. I have no doubt if Tufts had a few years of D1 recruiting under its belt, if they played Bryant, SH and Providence 10 times, 5-5 would not be a surprise. I think even as of today they would do much better against 36 Manhattan, 40 Quinnipiac, 43 LIU, 44 Marist, 45 Cleve St, 48 Merrimack as examples.

I think what underlies this "discussion" and our biases is the old "D3 athletes - can they compete in D1?" argument and I am firmly in the camp that there are D1 caliber athletes that chose D3 (NESCAC, Swat, W&L being some of them) for academic reasons and that the bottom 12 D1 teams are really just not all that good. Then there is the other camp that thinks the gap between a D1 and D3 athlete is soooooo wide that a D3 team could never compete (which I believe to be true for football, hockey, bball). Please dont resurrect this argument; just pointing out why people think Tufts could never compete in D1. I actually think they would fit in very nicely in the Patriot.

They would be dead last in the Patriot. They would fit in at the bottom of the MAAC. Hypothetically

Dead last in the Patriot eh? Do you even watch college lacrosse? Have you heard of Holy Cross?

He's just trying to be provocative and antagonistic.

UP, you'll need to watch your tone lest being scolded by the forum hall monitors!!

[Laxxal22]

Tufts and other NESCACs already bring in equal or better talent than HC and now with the portal the Crusaders are having issues keeping kids at the school.