2024

[old salt]

Jim Webb presaged the emergence of J D Vance.

https://ashbrook.org/viewpoint/oped-owens-04-webb/

Before dissing Vance as a grifter, scam artist or opportunist, take the time to understand him.
You might conclude that he's trying to accomplish some things that you agree with.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?419678-4/ ... illy-elegy

https://www.c-span.org/video/?415207-1/qa-jd-vance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVvuTKWzOcs

....and you're going to rip him apart if he doesn't help the working class, and call him a phony, right?

Or are you going to make excuses?

Let's see what he does. He gave up a lucrative career to move back to southern Ohio to address the problems there. He's put down a marker & has come a long way in a short time. Let's see if he makes a good faith effort to make things better.

[jhu72]

Ohio republiCON afraid of Kamala. They are threatening a civil war if she is elected. What losers!! What happened to the more button downed, sane republiCONs Orange Duce promised??

[PizzaSnake]

Ohio republiCON afraid of Kamala. They are threatening a civil war if she is elected. What losers!! What happened to the more button downed, sane republiCONs Orange Duce promised??

“"I believe wholeheartedly Donald Trump and Butler County's JD Vance are the last chance to save our country,” Lang said. “Politically, I'm afraid if we lose this one, it's going to take a civil war to save the country — and it will be saved.”

Sounds Sumter-esque. Is this clown ready to throw down? Will he be in the streets, or cowering in his bunker?

[cradleandshoot]

Ohio republiCON afraid of Kamala. They are threatening a civil war if she is elected. What losers!! What happened to the more button downed, sane republiCONs Orange Duce promised??

“"I believe wholeheartedly Donald Trump and Butler County's JD Vance are the last chance to save our country,” Lang said. “Politically, I'm afraid if we lose this one, it's going to take a civil war to save the country — and it will be saved.”

Sounds Sumter-esque. Is this clown ready to throw down? Will he be in the streets, or cowering in his bunker?

Wow, that's almost Democrat paranoid like in tone and delivery. Is it possible for 2 skys to fall at the same time?

[ggait]

Really like that new lowered temp on the rhetoric.

[PizzaSnake]

Ohio republiCON afraid of Kamala. They are threatening a civil war if she is elected. What losers!! What happened to the more button downed, sane republiCONs Orange Duce promised??

“"I believe wholeheartedly Donald Trump and Butler County's JD Vance are the last chance to save our country,” Lang said. “Politically, I'm afraid if we lose this one, it's going to take a civil war to save the country — and it will be saved.”

Sounds Sumter-esque. Is this clown ready to throw down? Will he be in the streets, or cowering in his bunker?

Wow, that's almost Democrat paranoid like in tone and delivery. Is it possible for 2 skys to fall at the same time?

Exactly. Evidently Lang is a probability distribution, not a point.

And you? Distribution or point in your quantum of discontent?

[NattyBohChamps04]

Really like that new lowered temp on the rhetoric.

You didn't get the memo, they just want Dems to lower the temp on any rhetoric. Even when the dude didn't seem to do it based off the D's rhetoric.

[cradleandshoot]

Ohio republiCON afraid of Kamala. They are threatening a civil war if she is elected. What losers!! What happened to the more button downed, sane republiCONs Orange Duce promised??

“"I believe wholeheartedly Donald Trump and Butler County's JD Vance are the last chance to save our country,” Lang said. “Politically, I'm afraid if we lose this one, it's going to take a civil war to save the country — and it will be saved.”

Sounds Sumter-esque. Is this clown ready to throw down? Will he be in the streets, or cowering in his bunker?

Wow, that's almost Democrat paranoid like in tone and delivery. Is it possible for 2 skys to fall at the same time?

Exactly. Evidently Lang is a probability distribution, not a point.

And you? Distribution or point in your quantum of discontent?

My only quantum of disconnect is my garden hasn't provided me with my first beefsteak tomato so I can enjoy my first BLT of summer. Outside of that my life is cool and groovy man like really far out.

[jhu72]

Really like that new lowered temp on the rhetoric.

You didn't get the memo, they just want Dems to lower the temp on any rhetoric. Even when the dude didn't seem to do it based off the D's rhetoric.

... exactly.

[ggait]

83% of Dems approve of Joe stepping aside.

79% of Dems approve of Harris being the nominee.

Harris raised $81M in the first 24 hours after Joe stepped aside. Most of it first time, small dollar donors. Most of whom have signed up to be recurring donors.

So the truth is that the elites are listening to and following the grass roots.

Off to a much better than expected start!

[Farfromgeneva]

Ohio republiCON afraid of Kamala. They are threatening a civil war if she is elected. What losers!! What happened to the more button downed, sane republiCONs Orange Duce promised??

So I still can’t use the “R” word?

[Farfromgeneva]

Ohio republiCON afraid of Kamala. They are threatening a civil war if she is elected. What losers!! What happened to the more button downed, sane republiCONs Orange Duce promised??

“"I believe wholeheartedly Donald Trump and Butler County's JD Vance are the last chance to save our country,” Lang said. “Politically, I'm afraid if we lose this one, it's going to take a civil war to save the country — and it will be saved.”

Sounds Sumter-esque. Is this clown ready to throw down? Will he be in the streets, or cowering in his bunker?

He’s a spider hole dude like saddam

[Farfromgeneva]

Ohio republiCON afraid of Kamala. They are threatening a civil war if she is elected. What losers!! What happened to the more button downed, sane republiCONs Orange Duce promised??

“"I believe wholeheartedly Donald Trump and Butler County's JD Vance are the last chance to save our country,” Lang said. “Politically, I'm afraid if we lose this one, it's going to take a civil war to save the country — and it will be saved.”

Sounds Sumter-esque. Is this clown ready to throw down? Will he be in the streets, or cowering in his bunker?

Wow, that's almost Democrat paranoid like in tone and delivery. Is it possible for 2 skys to fall at the same time?

Exactly. Evidently Lang is a probability distribution, not a point.

And you? Distribution or point in your quantum of discontent?

I would say absolute skew where distribution equals point/

[Farfromgeneva]

83% of Dems approve of Joe stepping aside.

79% of Dems approve of Harris being the nominee.

Harris raised $81M in the first 24 hours after Joe stepped aside. Most of it first time, small dollar donors. Most of whom have signed up to be recurring donors.

So the truth is that the elites are listening to and following the grass roots.

Off to a much better than expected start!

Reluctant agreement for many I suspect. In this circumstance it’s like a fire sale “fill or kill” so you don’t have much decent choice.

I don’t think this was planned like the idiot rep politicians are claiming already but it still stinks to high hell. Let’s not forget that. Kamala ran one of
The very worst primaries and was eviscerated in a large piece maybe the hill or Politico about her being a terrible boss and jerk. She was pushed to a corner worse than Juliet Louis Dreyfus’s in veep. Doesn’t matter that it was piss poor execution they should have some open forum of choice.

Would she have won a primary this year? I doubt it.

[jhu72]

83% of Dems approve of Joe stepping aside.

79% of Dems approve of Harris being the nominee.

Harris raised $81M in the first 24 hours after Joe stepped aside. Most of it first time, small dollar donors. Most of whom have signed up to be recurring donors.

So the truth is that the elites are listening to and following the grass roots.

Off to a much better than expected start!

Reluctant agreement for many I suspect. In this circumstance it’s like a fire sale “fill or kill” so you don’t have much decent choice.

I don’t think this was planned like the idiot rep politicians are claiming already but it still stinks to high hell. Let’s not forget that. Kamala ran one of
The very worst primaries and was eviscerated in a large piece maybe the hill or Politico about her being a terrible boss and jerk. She was pushed to a corner worse than Juliet Louis Dreyfus’s in veep. Doesn’t matter that it was piss poor execution they should have some open forum of choice.

Would she have won a primary this year? I doubt it.

... she is the only democrat that currently has federal level executive experience beside Biden. I suspect if Biden had decided not to run, and he endorsed Harris -- she would have won. If he had decided not to run and did not endorse Harris, she probably would not have won earlier and we would be stuck with someone older than (59 yrs old) her. I really didn't care for her initially. She has learned a great deal and I have no trouble with her being the party candidate now. She is a much better campaigner now.

[Farfromgeneva]

83% of Dems approve of Joe stepping aside.

79% of Dems approve of Harris being the nominee.

Harris raised $81M in the first 24 hours after Joe stepped aside. Most of it first time, small dollar donors. Most of whom have signed up to be recurring donors.

So the truth is that the elites are listening to and following the grass roots.

Off to a much better than expected start!

Reluctant agreement for many I suspect. In this circumstance it’s like a fire sale “fill or kill” so you don’t have much decent choice.

I don’t think this was planned like the idiot rep politicians are claiming already but it still stinks to high hell. Let’s not forget that. Kamala ran one of
The very worst primaries and was eviscerated in a large piece maybe the hill or Politico about her being a terrible boss and jerk. She was pushed to a corner worse than Juliet Louis Dreyfus’s in veep. Doesn’t matter that it was piss poor execution they should have some open forum of choice.

Would she have won a primary this year? I doubt it.

... she is the only democrat that currently has federal level executive experience beside Biden. I suspect if Biden had decided not to run, and he endorsed Harris -- she would have won. If he had decided not to run and did not endorse Harris, she probably would not have won earlier and we would be stuck with someone older than (59 yrs old) her. I really didn't care for her initially. She has learned a great deal and I have no trouble with her being the party candidate now. She is a much better campaigner now.

Forced bad choices from weak/poor execution and planning just drives me insane when a grade school kid like my son would figure it out.

[Typical Lax Dad]

How long before YA or OS repeats a cute nickname given to Kamala Harris by Trump or someone on social media? Over or under 3.5 days?

[Farfromgeneva]

How long before YA or OS repeats a cute nickname given to Kamala Harris by Trump or someone on social media? Over or under 3.5 days?

Best chance the Dems have is Trump crosses too many lines with a black woman as his support is bolstered meaningfully by gains in minorities. If he loses them she’s got a small chance. Hope she puts the right team together .

Ironically I’m pissed at that sorry and don’t know if I’m that constructive on her if you gave me a full field and normal conditions and yet it’s likely to get me to move from not voting for pres to voting Dem for the second time in my life (for pres) in a tight state.

Doesn’t make it all sweet though .

[cradleandshoot]

Really like that new lowered temp on the rhetoric.

The odds are excellent that you will leave this forum hating someone. That sound familiar? The political animosity is baked into the cake. Your opining for civility on a forum where it was never designed to exist in the first place.

[MDlaxfan76]

How long before YA or OS repeats a cute nickname given to Kamala Harris by Trump or someone on social media? Over or under 3.5 days?

Best chance the Dems have is Trump crosses too many lines with a black woman as his support is bolstered meaningfully by gains in minorities. If he loses them she’s got a small chance. Hope she puts the right team together .

Ironically I’m pissed at that sorry and don’t know if I’m that constructive on her if you gave me a full field and normal conditions and yet it’s likely to get me to move from not voting for pres to voting Dem for the second time in my life (for pres) in a tight state.

Doesn’t make it all sweet though .

Code already is “DEI candidate.”