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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:26 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:47 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:51 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:46 pm Does that mean we shouldn't deport the bad actors who murder, rob, rape and smuggle drugs into the country?
No. Deporting someone who commits a crime and is not a citizen is fine with almost anyone.

Having said that, note that undocumented people have lower crime rates for all types of crime than either legal immigrants or native-born Americans.
Maybe we could export felonious Americans to the countries of origin in pro rata sections?
There is always comfort for the family when they know the deed was done by a red blooded American. 🇺🇸
Especially the sanguinary type.
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PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:26 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:47 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:51 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:46 pm Does that mean we shouldn't deport the bad actors who murder, rob, rape and smuggle drugs into the country?
No. Deporting someone who commits a crime and is not a citizen is fine with almost anyone.

Having said that, note that undocumented people have lower crime rates for all types of crime than either legal immigrants or native-born Americans.
Maybe we could export felonious Americans to the countries of origin in pro rata sections?
There is always comfort for the family when they know the deed was done by a red blooded American. 🇺🇸
Especially the sanguinary type.
When one of my high school classmates from what we now call Trump Prep was killed by another Trump Prep hillbilly, we were happy that the guy turned out to be a MAGA guy and not some migrant.
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PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:26 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:47 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:51 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:46 pm Does that mean we shouldn't deport the bad actors who murder, rob, rape and smuggle drugs into the country?
No. Deporting someone who commits a crime and is not a citizen is fine with almost anyone.

Having said that, note that undocumented people have lower crime rates for all types of crime than either legal immigrants or native-born Americans.
Maybe we could export felonious Americans to the countries of origin in pro rata sections?
There is always comfort for the family when they know the deed was done by a red blooded American. 🇺🇸
Especially the sanguinary type.
Even more comfort if the crime was never allowed to be committed in the first place. If the bastard isn't in the country illegally the bastard can't commit the crime. Sometimes you sound stupid!
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cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:49 am
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:26 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:47 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:51 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:46 pm Does that mean we shouldn't deport the bad actors who murder, rob, rape and smuggle drugs into the country?
No. Deporting someone who commits a crime and is not a citizen is fine with almost anyone.

Having said that, note that undocumented people have lower crime rates for all types of crime than either legal immigrants or native-born Americans.
Maybe we could export felonious Americans to the countries of origin in pro rata sections?
There is always comfort for the family when they know the deed was done by a red blooded American. 🇺🇸
Especially the sanguinary type.
Even more comfort if the crime was never allowed to be committed in the first place. If the bastard isn't in the country illegally the bastard can't commit the crime. Sometimes you sound stupid!
It is worse when a migrant brings in some drugs across the border….we want our boys up county cooking our meth.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:49 am
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:26 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:47 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:51 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:46 pm Does that mean we shouldn't deport the bad actors who murder, rob, rape and smuggle drugs into the country?
No. Deporting someone who commits a crime and is not a citizen is fine with almost anyone.

Having said that, note that undocumented people have lower crime rates for all types of crime than either legal immigrants or native-born Americans.
Maybe we could export felonious Americans to the countries of origin in pro rata sections?
There is always comfort for the family when they know the deed was done by a red blooded American. 🇺🇸
Especially the sanguinary type.
Even more comfort if the crime was never allowed to be committed in the first place. If the bastard isn't in the country illegally the bastard can't commit the crime. Sometimes you sound stupid!
1. Familiar with sarcasm?
2. I am stupid. Und du?
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PizzaSnake wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:20 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:49 am
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:26 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:47 pm
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:51 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:46 pm Does that mean we shouldn't deport the bad actors who murder, rob, rape and smuggle drugs into the country?
No. Deporting someone who commits a crime and is not a citizen is fine with almost anyone.

Having said that, note that undocumented people have lower crime rates for all types of crime than either legal immigrants or native-born Americans.
Maybe we could export felonious Americans to the countries of origin in pro rata sections?
There is always comfort for the family when they know the deed was done by a red blooded American. 🇺🇸
Especially the sanguinary type.
Even more comfort if the crime was never allowed to be committed in the first place. If the bastard isn't in the country illegally the bastard can't commit the crime. Sometimes you sound stupid!
1. Familiar with sarcasm?
2. I am stupid. Und du?
My time on this forum has proven to me that my FLP friends on this forum struggle mightily just like Sheldon Cooper with the concept of sarcasm. IMO when the topic of conversation involves American citizens being murdered, robbed, raped etc...etc perhaps the use of sarcasm might not be the way to make your point. FTR I love sarcasm I love it even more when it sails over peoples heads. Rule # 1 about sarcasm.. never use it on your wife :D
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/01/us/maine ... index.html

It’s comforting to know that the killer was a red blooded American and not an illegal alien.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/j-d-vance- ... ticle_pos4

J.D. Vance and the Indian-American Dream
This immigrant group has prospered without quotas or grievances.
By Tunku Varadarajan, July 16, 2024

You may be surprised to learn that the wife of “hillbilly” J.D. Vance is the daughter of Indian immigrants. Usha Vance (née Chilukuri, a name with origins in the south Indian state of Andhra Pradesh) grew up in San Diego. The woman who could become second lady exemplifies the rise of an immigrant group that has prospered without quotas or affirmative action.

Indian-Americans have achieved a breathtaking amount in this country in a couple of generations. What’s impressive is both the range of their success and that they have succeeded entirely on their own steam. No ethnic or racial favors have come their way from schools, colleges or government. At least until the recent Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action, it was a disadvantage to be an Indian student applying to an Ivy League school.

I’m an ethnic Indian immigrant to the U.S., in the process of becoming an American, but I don’t write this to be self-congratulatory. Instead, I do so to point out that contrary to claims of “systemic racism” and pervasive “white privilege,” America has been a place where this ethnic minority has blossomed. Indians constitute just under 1.5% of the country’s population, and yet we’ve had two Indian-Americans (Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy) compete for the Republican presidential nomination this year. Vice President Kamala Harris, lest we forget, was born to an Indian mother. Indian-American CEOs run Google and Microsoft as well as Novartis, Starbucks, FedEx, Adobe and IBM.

Some random stats: Indian-Americans have the highest median household income in the U.S. by ethnic group, almost twice that of white households and three times that of black households. Two-thirds have college degrees and 40% have postgraduate degrees. They have the lowest divorce rates of any ethnic group in the country and own 60% of all hotels. One in every 20 doctors here is Indian, as is 1 in every 10 students entering medical school. Indian deans are a staple at top-drawer U.S. business schools, including Chicago, Georgetown, Harvard, Northwestern and New York University.

What Indians don’t specialize in is grievance. There is no Indian lobby pushing for increased “representation” in this or that economic or political sector, no pressure group ululating for ethnic enclaves, or for information to be provided in a language other than English. You won’t be told, when you call your bank, to “press 2 for Telugu.” You won’t have Indian parents at American public schools clamoring for special dispensations for their children. There is, instead, a quiet determination among Indian-Americans to take full advantage of being in a land that gives them a range of opportunities unavailable in their country of ancestral origin.

It is deeply unfashionable to speak these days of the American Dream. To do so marks you out, in certain circles, as anachronistic or sentimental. But if there’s one group that holds fast to its belief in the American Dream, it’s Indian-Americans. Unapologetic about their drive to thrive, they are rightly scornful of those who would say that America is a place that thwarts people on the basis of race.
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old salt wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:39 am
https://www.wsj.com/articles/j-d-vance- ... ticle_pos4

J.D. Vance and the Indian-American Dream
This immigrant group has prospered without quotas or grievances.
By Tunku Varadarajan, July 16, 2024

You may be surprised to learn that the wife of “hillbilly” J.D. Vance is the daughter of Indian immigrants. Usha Vance (née Chilukuri, a name with origins in the south Indian state of Andhra Pradesh) grew up in San Diego. The woman who could become second lady exemplifies the rise of an immigrant group that has prospered without quotas or affirmative action.

Indian-Americans have achieved a breathtaking amount in this country in a couple of generations. What’s impressive is both the range of their success and that they have succeeded entirely on their own steam. No ethnic or racial favors have come their way from schools, colleges or government. At least until the recent Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action, it was a disadvantage to be an Indian student applying to an Ivy League school.

I’m an ethnic Indian immigrant to the U.S., in the process of becoming an American, but I don’t write this to be self-congratulatory. Instead, I do so to point out that contrary to claims of “systemic racism” and pervasive “white privilege,” America has been a place where this ethnic minority has blossomed. Indians constitute just under 1.5% of the country’s population, and yet we’ve had two Indian-Americans (Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy) compete for the Republican presidential nomination this year. Vice President Kamala Harris, lest we forget, was born to an Indian mother. Indian-American CEOs run Google and Microsoft as well as Novartis, Starbucks, FedEx, Adobe and IBM.

Some random stats: Indian-Americans have the highest median household income in the U.S. by ethnic group, almost twice that of white households and three times that of black households. Two-thirds have college degrees and 40% have postgraduate degrees. They have the lowest divorce rates of any ethnic group in the country and own 60% of all hotels. One in every 20 doctors here is Indian, as is 1 in every 10 students entering medical school. Indian deans are a staple at top-drawer U.S. business schools, including Chicago, Georgetown, Harvard, Northwestern and New York University.

What Indians don’t specialize in is grievance. There is no Indian lobby pushing for increased “representation” in this or that economic or political sector, no pressure group ululating for ethnic enclaves, or for information to be provided in a language other than English. You won’t be told, when you call your bank, to “press 2 for Telugu.” You won’t have Indian parents at American public schools clamoring for special dispensations for their children. There is, instead, a quiet determination among Indian-Americans to take full advantage of being in a land that gives them a range of opportunities unavailable in their country of ancestral origin.

It is deeply unfashionable to speak these days of the American Dream. To do so marks you out, in certain circles, as anachronistic or sentimental. But if there’s one group that holds fast to its belief in the American Dream, it’s Indian-Americans. Unapologetic about their drive to thrive, they are rightly scornful of those who would say that America is a place that thwarts people on the basis of race.
So he's gonna play dumb, and act like he doesn't know why the Indian experience was different?

When did large scale immigration from India start? Before, or after Civil Rights were fought for, and secured by black Americans?

Unlike predominately low-skilled migrant workers who arrived from India during the 19th century and the early 20th century, most post-World War II Indian migrants came to work in professional jobs or study in U.S. colleges and universities. Today, most Indians arrive through employment- and family-based pathways. India is the source of the second largest number of international students enrolled in U.S. higher education and its nationals receive the majority of employer-sponsored H-1B temporary visas for high-skilled workers. These pathways are reflected in characteristics that set Indians apart: four-fifths of Indian immigrant adults have at least a bachelor’s degree and their median household incomes are more than double those of all immigrants and the U.S. born.

Start on second base, and pretend like they didn't. And I say this as someone who started on second base.

And they didn't deal with 200 years of discrimination and enslavement. If we're going to tell the story, tell the story.
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a fan wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:27 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:39 am
https://www.wsj.com/articles/j-d-vance- ... ticle_pos4

J.D. Vance and the Indian-American Dream
This immigrant group has prospered without quotas or grievances.
By Tunku Varadarajan, July 16, 2024

You may be surprised to learn that the wife of “hillbilly” J.D. Vance is the daughter of Indian immigrants. Usha Vance (née Chilukuri, a name with origins in the south Indian state of Andhra Pradesh) grew up in San Diego. The woman who could become second lady exemplifies the rise of an immigrant group that has prospered without quotas or affirmative action.

Indian-Americans have achieved a breathtaking amount in this country in a couple of generations. What’s impressive is both the range of their success and that they have succeeded entirely on their own steam. No ethnic or racial favors have come their way from schools, colleges or government. At least until the recent Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action, it was a disadvantage to be an Indian student applying to an Ivy League school.

I’m an ethnic Indian immigrant to the U.S., in the process of becoming an American, but I don’t write this to be self-congratulatory. Instead, I do so to point out that contrary to claims of “systemic racism” and pervasive “white privilege,” America has been a place where this ethnic minority has blossomed. Indians constitute just under 1.5% of the country’s population, and yet we’ve had two Indian-Americans (Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy) compete for the Republican presidential nomination this year. Vice President Kamala Harris, lest we forget, was born to an Indian mother. Indian-American CEOs run Google and Microsoft as well as Novartis, Starbucks, FedEx, Adobe and IBM.

Some random stats: Indian-Americans have the highest median household income in the U.S. by ethnic group, almost twice that of white households and three times that of black households. Two-thirds have college degrees and 40% have postgraduate degrees. They have the lowest divorce rates of any ethnic group in the country and own 60% of all hotels. One in every 20 doctors here is Indian, as is 1 in every 10 students entering medical school. Indian deans are a staple at top-drawer U.S. business schools, including Chicago, Georgetown, Harvard, Northwestern and New York University.

What Indians don’t specialize in is grievance. There is no Indian lobby pushing for increased “representation” in this or that economic or political sector, no pressure group ululating for ethnic enclaves, or for information to be provided in a language other than English. You won’t be told, when you call your bank, to “press 2 for Telugu.” You won’t have Indian parents at American public schools clamoring for special dispensations for their children. There is, instead, a quiet determination among Indian-Americans to take full advantage of being in a land that gives them a range of opportunities unavailable in their country of ancestral origin.

It is deeply unfashionable to speak these days of the American Dream. To do so marks you out, in certain circles, as anachronistic or sentimental. But if there’s one group that holds fast to its belief in the American Dream, it’s Indian-Americans. Unapologetic about their drive to thrive, they are rightly scornful of those who would say that America is a place that thwarts people on the basis of race.
So he's gonna play dumb, and act like he doesn't know why the Indian experience was different?

When did large scale immigration from India start? Before, or after Civil Rights were fought for, and secured by black Americans?

Unlike predominately low-skilled migrant workers who arrived from India during the 19th century and the early 20th century, most post-World War II Indian migrants came to work in professional jobs or study in U.S. colleges and universities. Today, most Indians arrive through employment- and family-based pathways. India is the source of the second largest number of international students enrolled in U.S. higher education and its nationals receive the majority of employer-sponsored H-1B temporary visas for high-skilled workers. These pathways are reflected in characteristics that set Indians apart: four-fifths of Indian immigrant adults have at least a bachelor’s degree and their median household incomes are more than double those of all immigrants and the U.S. born.

Start on second base, and pretend like they didn't. And I say this as someone who started on second base.

And they didn't deal with 200 years of discrimination and enslavement. If we're going to tell the story, tell the story.
And very few poor Indians are able to come to America. It’s the top, like many other countries.
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Why can’t black Americans be like him? He made it? My question is why can’t these poor hillbillies be like him? They have had all kinds of advantages? No competition for 350 years and they are still poor?
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:13 pm

Why can’t black Americans be like him? He made it? My question is why can’t these poor hillbillies be like him? They have had all kinds of advantages? No competition for 350 years and they are still poor?
If it wasn't for them thar revenoors trying to prevent their corn liquor business I'm sure they would all be Beverly Hillbillies by now. Moonshine is liquid gold in them thar hills.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:13 pm

Why can’t black Americans be like him? He made it? My question is why can’t these poor hillbillies be like him? They have had all kinds of advantages? No competition for 350 years and they are still poor?
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The comparison was to other ethnic immigrant groups. e.g. :

There is no Indian lobby pushing for increased “representation” in this or that economic or political sector, no pressure group ululating for ethnic enclaves, or for information to be provided in a language other than English. You won’t be told, when you call your bank, to “press 2 for Telugu.” You won’t have Indian parents at American public schools clamoring for special dispensations for their children. There is, instead, a quiet determination among Indian-Americans to take full advantage of being in a land that gives them a range of opportunities unavailable in their country of ancestral origin.
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The comparison should be to other immigrants. The Indians have outperformed every group that has migrated here. Each and every one of them.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:34 am The comparison should be to other immigrants. The Indians have outperformed every group that has migrated here. Each and every one of them.
no, no, "ethnic immigrant groups" was code for "of color"...don't want comparisons to anglos...
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Why Nigerian Immigrants Are One of The Most Successful Ethnic Group in the U.S.

https://medium.com/@joecarleton/why-nig ... a7ea5a0832
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:52 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:34 am The comparison should be to other immigrants. The Indians have outperformed every group that has migrated here. Each and every one of them.
no, no, "ethnic immigrant groups" was code for "of color"...don't want comparisons to anglos...
:lol: ...dial 2 for a woke mis-restatement.
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https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the ... world.html

A lot of illiterate Indians….they don’t leave the country…

I have a lot of good friends from India. I learned from my American “friends” in grad school that towel head is short for Indian and sandeep is pronounced sand-heep.
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