old salt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:56 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:03 am
old salt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:29 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:05 pm
He's failed in every business or charity he's been involved in but sure he was a good self-promoter...any self promoters lying hypocrites?
What's your basis for that smear ?
Is it?
Show me a success...his former employers don't think much of him and I can't find a single successful investment he led. The charity was a bust, arguably a political grift.
But again, excellent self-promoter.
I see you cut out and ignored the rest...
You skipped over
this in my previous reply.
You would like to think that having a wide range of life experiences makes a person wiser, more understanding, and more empathetic.
Who’s the last president or vice president who grew up poor? I mean poor, so poor that Vance’s grandmother “was negotiating with the Meals on Wheels person to give her more food so that both of us could have something to eat,” as Vance recalled.
Bill Clinton? Barack Obama’s upbringing was unusual, but I don’t think he could accurately be described as impoverished. It may well have been Ronald Reagan.
We haven’t had a commander in chief who had served in the military in a war zone since George H. W. Bush. Vance is quick to emphasize he didn’t see combat, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t assume the risk of wearing the uniform and working in a country where insurgents were trying to kill Americans. From Hillbilly Elegy:
" As a public affairs marine, I would attach to different units to get a sense of their daily routine. Sometimes I’d escort civilian press, but generally I’d take photos or write short stories about individual marines or their work. Early in my deployment, I attached to a civil affairs unit to do community outreach. Civil affairs missions were typically considered more dangerous, as a small number of marines would venture into unprotected Iraqi territory to meet with locals."
...no president has worked in Silicon Valley. Vance was a principal at Mithril Capital, a fund co-founded by Peter Thiel. Principals identify investment opportunities for the fund, conduct due diligence on target companies, and help manage portfolio companies. How many recent presidents or vice presidents have done work like that?
Vance has accomplished a lot, in varied fields & rapidly rose to prominence.
Show us some evidence of his grift or scam. Which former employees don't think much of him ?
Steve Case is one of many bosses, mentors, associates.
David Frum. Ron Klain. Mitt Romney
Show us one investment he led that was successful. Whether for Thiel or Case or his own firm. Show me the success of the charity (failed).
He worked for just one year for Thiel, while publishing and promoting Hillbilly Elegy...show me a success other than the book.
Then Steve Case for 2 years, then his own firm...oh yeah, he invested in Rumble, led by Thiel.
Sorry, he's an excellent self-promoter, plenty smart guy, and did very, very well with Hillbilly Elegy.
But that's not remotely a guarantee of "integrity".
Doesn't even guarantee "empathy", though I agree that having such experiences is potentially helpful, though definitely not a guarantee.
Yes, Obama grew up working class...so did Biden, obviously.
Week to week budgeting. No silver spoons.
Here's an interesting article about him:
https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/ ... ps-vp-pick
You'll agree with him on Ukraine.
