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old salt wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 6:23 pm Here it comes -- the inevitable ends justifies the means whataboutism - Trump's such a dirtbag, it's ok to bend or break the rules to take him out.
That's not what I think. That's what YOU think, remember?

You're the one who's been dropping the "that's not illegal" excuses for Trump's behavior during this whole charade, not me.

I'd like to hold our government to a higher standard. You're the one who thinks anything that's legal (ie., you're not convicted of a crime) is fair game.

Lying under oath is fine. Lying to the nation is fine. Attempting to gain info. from a Russian spy on your opponent is fine. You waved all that through with a big "thumbs up".
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Trump is a dirt bag. Not even a question. At least that’s the adjective I ascribe to a man who has cheated on all three of his wives. Paid hookers for sex and then wanted them to sign NDAs. Defrauded people in Trump U and had to pay out 25 million in damages. Stiffed his contractors, business associates and banks defaulting on loans. Has been mobbed up since his father got into bed with Luciano, gets his money from Russian organized crime. And lies to the American people and the world more than 10,000 times in two years. Dirt bag fits perfectly

Forgot to mention importing going giris from other countries for parties. Buying the Miss America Page t because he liked going into their dressing room while they were preparing, I believe it was his second wife who accused him of marital rape. Ducked the draft and now walks around all macho like. Hates to deal face to face. Places loyalty to him above country. Yep scum bucket
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...and the Deplorables shrug, because they hate government and LOVE "sticking it to libruls". What a wonderful, inspiring way to run a country.

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"The purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure poor reasoning, and inhibit clarity. With a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and impenetrable fog." - Calvin, to Hobbes
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a fan wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 12:27 am
old salt wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 6:23 pm Here it comes -- the inevitable ends justifies the means whataboutism - Trump's such a dirtbag, it's ok to bend or break the rules to take him out.
That's not what I think. That's what YOU think, remember?

You're the one who's been dropping the "that's not illegal" excuses for Trump's behavior during this whole charade, not me.

I'd like to hold our government to a higher standard. You're the one who thinks anything that's legal (ie., you're not convicted of a crime) is fair game.

Lying under oath is fine. Lying to the nation is fine. Attempting to gain info. from a Russian spy on your opponent is fine. You waved all that through with a big "thumbs up".
One more time for the folks in the liberal apologist vacuum.

Hillary Clinton PURCHASED the info for the dossier—from where all of this collusion delusion has sprung—from RUSSIAN SPIES.

Democrats and the media have been LYING to us for 2+ years.

The Obama administration sat and watched Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Obama told us all, while it was happening, it had NO effect on our elections. Thumbs up to you tho eh.
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From your article'

"Why doesn’t the Oversight Committee just hire Mueller to conduct an official Impeachment inquiry?"

Just what the h*ll was the last two years, the Mueller Report, 2800 subpoenas, 500 interviews, 19 Trump hating prosecutors, nearly 50 investigators and Mueller's weasily written volume 2, if not an impeachment inquiry.
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Why do you think Trump and Barr are so furiously covering up the details and actually WHAT THE REPORT SAYS, Brainiac?

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6ftstick wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 7:51 am One more time for the folks in the liberal apologist vacuum.

Hillary Clinton PURCHASED the info for the dossier—from where all of this collusion delusion has sprung—from RUSSIAN SPIES.

Democrats and the media have been LYING to us for 2+ years.

The Obama administration sat and watched Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Obama told us all, while it was happening, it had NO effect on our elections. Thumbs up to you tho eh.
Nope. You are the only two here who want different standards. You're parroting Hannity. Verbatim. Same cadence. Same jargon.

Notice, as usual, you don't mention that Trump sat and watched Russian interference in the 2018 election. Because you don't actually care about the actual problem. You're just mad that a Dem did it...and ignore it when a Republican does it. Over and over and overt again.

You don't care. You have shown to everyone on the board----multiple times-----that you desperately want one set of standards for Republicans, and one for Democrats.


As for the rest of us? I'd LOVE to make it illegal for both Hillary's purchase of foreign gossip on an opponent, and for Kush, Trump Jr., et. al. attempt to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian spy. Nothing would have made me happier to that to see all of them in jail. Trump and his crew and Hillary and her crew in Federal prison? Where do I sign for that?

You don't care about that. All that matters to you is that some guy with a little R in in charge of government. That's it. Everything else is sound and fury to you.

You don't care that Trump is a POS human being.

You don't care that he lies every day.

You don't care that he didn't repeal and replace Obamacare

You don't care that he didn't lift a finger to fix your border "crisis" (odd, it's not an emergency anymore)

You don't care that he's fleecing taxpayers and lining his family's pockets.

You don't care that spending is higher than ever.

You don't care that liberal tariffs are protecting union jobs at the expense of every other business and citizen in America.

You don't care that government is bigger than ever, and more intrusive than ever.

You don't care that the deficit is at an all time high.

You don't care that he's lining the pockets of the 1% (guys like me), at the expense of the rest of Americans who really need that help.

And every time I point out the above list, you come back with whataboutObama? As if that make it ok that Trump is executing the exact opposite policies that a supposed conservative like yourself is for.

If I'm an American liberal? I'm thrilled with Trump's economic policies. More spending. More handouts. More socialism. Protectionist tariffs. Heck, he's about to cut another $18 Billion to handout to rich farmers (you don't think that real family farmers will get one cent of that, do you?).

Yet you're cheering. You're the biggest lib on the board, but you're too freaking stubborn to see it. I don't get it. You should be furious at Trump.
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At what point do you question the American public? Yes the Russians overwhelmed our technology (not) and messed with our elections ok. We here are saints. At some point the voter needs to be held accountable. Did you ever think about pulling that lever?
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"Number one, Robert Mueller doesn't know the law — he's basically full of crap," Hannity said. :lol:
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LandM wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:11 pm A fan
At what point do you question the American public? Yes the Russians overwhelmed our technology (not) and messed with our elections ok. We here are saints. At some point the voter needs to be held accountable. Did you ever think about pulling that lever?
I just did. Reread my post to 6ftstick. It applies to all American partisans who have left ideology at the curb in favor of little R' and D's.

Holding the public accountable for partisan nonsense does not absolve our multi-trillion dollar defense industry from getting off their butts and protecting our elections.
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a fan wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 7:51 am One more time for the folks in the liberal apologist vacuum.

Hillary Clinton PURCHASED the info for the dossier—from where all of this collusion delusion has sprung—from RUSSIAN SPIES.

Democrats and the media have been LYING to us for 2+ years.

The Obama administration sat and watched Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Obama told us all, while it was happening, it had NO effect on our elections. Thumbs up to you tho eh.
Nope. You are the only two here who want different standards. You're parroting Hannity. Verbatim. Same cadence. Same jargon.

I posted videos to support my positions—none were Hannity or FOX ]

Notice, as usual, you don't mention that Trump sat and watched Russian interference in the 2018 election. Because you don't actually care about the actual problem. You're just mad that a Dem did it...and ignore it when a Republican does it. Over and over and overt again.

You don't care. You have shown to everyone on the board----multiple times-----that you desperately want one set of standards for Republicans, and one for Democrats.

From a guy who NEVER EVER complains about democrats

As for the rest of us? I'd LOVE to make it illegal for both Hillary's purchase of foreign gossip on an opponent, and for Kush, Trump Jr., et. al. attempt to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian spy. Nothing would have made me happier to that to see all of them in jail. Trump and his crew and Hillary and her crew in Federal prison? Where do I sign for that? Oh please you mocked us unrelentingly for suggesting it. You still do.

You don't care about that. All that matters to you is that some guy with a little R in in charge of government. That's it. Everything else is sound and fury to you. NONSENSE

You don't care that Trump is a POS human being. Your opinion. Based on the lies and leaks a hostile press or Words uttered in private conversations that were never meant for public consumption. I played three different sports and heard much worse more often.

You don't care that he lies every day. And the press does not lie. Democrats do not lie. This is what I meant above the guy with the little r is corrupt, awful and liar and everyone else is a gentle snowflake. BS

You don't care that he didn't repeal and replace Obamacare. He would have if John McCain didn't scuttle the vote in a vindictive move.And if this two plus year Mueller report hadn't kept any support for his policies to build during his first year in office

You don't care that he didn't lift a finger to fix your border "crisis" (odd, it's not an emergency anymore) What the heck are you talking about. He just punished Mexico, is building the wall and is the only politician doing ANYTHING to mitigate the crisis

You don't care that he's fleecing taxpayers and lining his family's pockets. Prove it. Obama came to office with nothing. Multimillionaire! The Clintons came with nothing. 100's of millions now! Pelosi. Fienstein. Schumer. All grew rich in office. Trump donates his 400K salary every year.

You don't care that spending is higher than ever.

You don't care that liberal tariffs are protecting union jobs at the expense of every other business and citizen in America.

You don't care that government is bigger than ever, and more intrusive than ever. AGAIN What the heck are you talking about.

You don't care that the deficit is at an all time high. OBAMA added 10 Trillion plus 4 trillion to the fed balance sheet. Remember shovel ready projects well OI guess there aren't any shovel ready projects

You don't care that he's lining the pockets of the 1% (guys like me), at the expense of the rest of Americans who really need that help. [color=#FF0000]Check the economy wages and unemployment[/color]

And every time I point out the above list, you come back with whataboutObama? As if that make it ok that Trump is executing the exact opposite policies that a supposed conservative like yourself is for.

If I'm an American liberal? I'm thrilled with Trump's economic policies. More spending. More handouts. More socialism. Protectionist tariffs. Heck, he's about to cut another $18 Billion to handout to rich farmers (you don't think that real family farmers will get one cent of that, do you?). Farmers received a temporary subsidy to carry them through the trade wars—while China is paying 100's of Billions more annually as trade balances out. And we negotiate even more agricultural products sold to those countries who freeze out most of our products

Yet you're cheering. You're the biggest lib on the board, but you're too freaking stubborn to see it. I don't get it. You should be furious at Trump.
Yep I'm cheering. Trumps done more for the average american than any president post war. And you want to grind it to a halt because he said p*ssy once or twice. Toughen up. I bet worse has been uttered over a Leopold Whiskey
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6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm
a fan wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 7:51 am One more time for the folks in the liberal apologist vacuum.

Hillary Clinton PURCHASED the info for the dossier—from where all of this collusion delusion has sprung—from RUSSIAN SPIES.

Democrats and the media have been LYING to us for 2+ years.

The Obama administration sat and watched Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Obama told us all, while it was happening, it had NO effect on our elections. Thumbs up to you tho eh.
Nope. You are the only two here who want different standards. You're parroting Hannity. Verbatim. Same cadence. Same jargon.

I posted videos to support my positions—none were Hannity or FOX ]

Notice, as usual, you don't mention that Trump sat and watched Russian interference in the 2018 election. Because you don't actually care about the actual problem. You're just mad that a Dem did it...and ignore it when a Republican does it. Over and over and overt again.

You don't care. You have shown to everyone on the board----multiple times-----that you desperately want one set of standards for Republicans, and one for Democrats.

From a guy who NEVER EVER complains about democrats

As for the rest of us? I'd LOVE to make it illegal for both Hillary's purchase of foreign gossip on an opponent, and for Kush, Trump Jr., et. al. attempt to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian spy. Nothing would have made me happier to that to see all of them in jail. Trump and his crew and Hillary and her crew in Federal prison? Where do I sign for that? Oh please you mocked us unrelentingly for suggesting it. You still do.

You don't care about that. All that matters to you is that some guy with a little R in in charge of government. That's it. Everything else is sound and fury to you. NONSENSE

You don't care that Trump is a POS human being. Your opinion. Based on the lies and leaks a hostile press or Words uttered in private conversations that were never meant for public consumption. I played three different sports and heard much worse more often.

You don't care that he lies every day. And the press does not lie. Democrats do not lie. This is what I meant above the guy with the little r is corrupt, awful and liar and everyone else is a gentle snowflake. BS

You don't care that he didn't repeal and replace Obamacare. He would have if John McCain didn't scuttle the vote in a vindictive move.And if this two plus year Mueller report hadn't kept any support for his policies to build during his first year in office

You don't care that he didn't lift a finger to fix your border "crisis" (odd, it's not an emergency anymore) What the heck are you talking about. He just punished Mexico, is building the wall and is the only politician doing ANYTHING to mitigate the crisis

You don't care that he's fleecing taxpayers and lining his family's pockets. Prove it. Obama came to office with nothing. Multimillionaire! The Clintons came with nothing. 100's of millions now! Pelosi. Fienstein. Schumer. All grew rich in office. Trump donates his 400K salary every year.

You don't care that spending is higher than ever.

You don't care that liberal tariffs are protecting union jobs at the expense of every other business and citizen in America.

You don't care that government is bigger than ever, and more intrusive than ever. AGAIN What the heck are you talking about.

You don't care that the deficit is at an all time high. OBAMA added 10 Trillion plus 4 trillion to the fed balance sheet. Remember shovel ready projects well OI guess there aren't any shovel ready projects

You don't care that he's lining the pockets of the 1% (guys like me), at the expense of the rest of Americans who really need that help. [color=#FF0000]Check the economy wages and unemployment[/color]

And every time I point out the above list, you come back with whataboutObama? As if that make it ok that Trump is executing the exact opposite policies that a supposed conservative like yourself is for.

If I'm an American liberal? I'm thrilled with Trump's economic policies. More spending. More handouts. More socialism. Protectionist tariffs. Heck, he's about to cut another $18 Billion to handout to rich farmers (you don't think that real family farmers will get one cent of that, do you?). Farmers received a temporary subsidy to carry them through the trade wars—while China is paying 100's of Billions more annually as trade balances out. And we negotiate even more agricultural products sold to those countries who freeze out most of our products

Yet you're cheering. You're the biggest lib on the board, but you're too freaking stubborn to see it. I don't get it. You should be furious at Trump.
Yep I'm cheering. Trumps done more for the average american than any president post war. And you want to grind it to a halt because he said p*ssy once or twice. Toughen up. I bet worse has been uttered over a Leopold Whiskey
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:45 pm
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm
a fan wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 7:51 am One more time for the folks in the liberal apologist vacuum.

Hillary Clinton PURCHASED the info for the dossier—from where all of this collusion delusion has sprung—from RUSSIAN SPIES.

Democrats and the media have been LYING to us for 2+ years.

The Obama administration sat and watched Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Obama told us all, while it was happening, it had NO effect on our elections. Thumbs up to you tho eh.
Nope. You are the only two here who want different standards. You're parroting Hannity. Verbatim. Same cadence. Same jargon.

I posted videos to support my positions—none were Hannity or FOX ]

Notice, as usual, you don't mention that Trump sat and watched Russian interference in the 2018 election. Because you don't actually care about the actual problem. You're just mad that a Dem did it...and ignore it when a Republican does it. Over and over and overt again.

You don't care. You have shown to everyone on the board----multiple times-----that you desperately want one set of standards for Republicans, and one for Democrats.

From a guy who NEVER EVER complains about democrats

As for the rest of us? I'd LOVE to make it illegal for both Hillary's purchase of foreign gossip on an opponent, and for Kush, Trump Jr., et. al. attempt to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian spy. Nothing would have made me happier to that to see all of them in jail. Trump and his crew and Hillary and her crew in Federal prison? Where do I sign for that? Oh please you mocked us unrelentingly for suggesting it. You still do.

You don't care about that. All that matters to you is that some guy with a little R in in charge of government. That's it. Everything else is sound and fury to you. NONSENSE

You don't care that Trump is a POS human being. Your opinion. Based on the lies and leaks a hostile press or Words uttered in private conversations that were never meant for public consumption. I played three different sports and heard much worse more often.

You don't care that he lies every day. And the press does not lie. Democrats do not lie. This is what I meant above the guy with the little r is corrupt, awful and liar and everyone else is a gentle snowflake. BS

You don't care that he didn't repeal and replace Obamacare. He would have if John McCain didn't scuttle the vote in a vindictive move.And if this two plus year Mueller report hadn't kept any support for his policies to build during his first year in office

You don't care that he didn't lift a finger to fix your border "crisis" (odd, it's not an emergency anymore) What the heck are you talking about. He just punished Mexico, is building the wall and is the only politician doing ANYTHING to mitigate the crisis

You don't care that he's fleecing taxpayers and lining his family's pockets. Prove it. Obama came to office with nothing. Multimillionaire! The Clintons came with nothing. 100's of millions now! Pelosi. Fienstein. Schumer. All grew rich in office. Trump donates his 400K salary every year.

You don't care that spending is higher than ever.

You don't care that liberal tariffs are protecting union jobs at the expense of every other business and citizen in America.

You don't care that government is bigger than ever, and more intrusive than ever. AGAIN What the heck are you talking about.

You don't care that the deficit is at an all time high. OBAMA added 10 Trillion plus 4 trillion to the fed balance sheet. Remember shovel ready projects well OI guess there aren't any shovel ready projects

You don't care that he's lining the pockets of the 1% (guys like me), at the expense of the rest of Americans who really need that help. [color=#FF0000]Check the economy wages and unemployment[/color]

And every time I point out the above list, you come back with whataboutObama? As if that make it ok that Trump is executing the exact opposite policies that a supposed conservative like yourself is for.

If I'm an American liberal? I'm thrilled with Trump's economic policies. More spending. More handouts. More socialism. Protectionist tariffs. Heck, he's about to cut another $18 Billion to handout to rich farmers (you don't think that real family farmers will get one cent of that, do you?). Farmers received a temporary subsidy to carry them through the trade wars—while China is paying 100's of Billions more annually as trade balances out. And we negotiate even more agricultural products sold to those countries who freeze out most of our products

Yet you're cheering. You're the biggest lib on the board, but you're too freaking stubborn to see it. I don't get it. You should be furious at Trump.
Yep I'm cheering. Trumps done more for the average american than any president post war. And you want to grind it to a halt because he said p*ssy once or twice. Toughen up. I bet worse has been uttered over a Leopold Whiskey
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Re: All Things Russia

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 8:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:45 pm
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm
a fan wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 7:51 am One more time for the folks in the liberal apologist vacuum.

Hillary Clinton PURCHASED the info for the dossier—from where all of this collusion delusion has sprung—from RUSSIAN SPIES.

Democrats and the media have been LYING to us for 2+ years.

The Obama administration sat and watched Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Obama told us all, while it was happening, it had NO effect on our elections. Thumbs up to you tho eh.
Nope. You are the only two here who want different standards. You're parroting Hannity. Verbatim. Same cadence. Same jargon.

I posted videos to support my positions—none were Hannity or FOX ]

Notice, as usual, you don't mention that Trump sat and watched Russian interference in the 2018 election. Because you don't actually care about the actual problem. You're just mad that a Dem did it...and ignore it when a Republican does it. Over and over and overt again.

You don't care. You have shown to everyone on the board----multiple times-----that you desperately want one set of standards for Republicans, and one for Democrats.

From a guy who NEVER EVER complains about democrats

As for the rest of us? I'd LOVE to make it illegal for both Hillary's purchase of foreign gossip on an opponent, and for Kush, Trump Jr., et. al. attempt to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian spy. Nothing would have made me happier to that to see all of them in jail. Trump and his crew and Hillary and her crew in Federal prison? Where do I sign for that? Oh please you mocked us unrelentingly for suggesting it. You still do.

You don't care about that. All that matters to you is that some guy with a little R in in charge of government. That's it. Everything else is sound and fury to you. NONSENSE

You don't care that Trump is a POS human being. Your opinion. Based on the lies and leaks a hostile press or Words uttered in private conversations that were never meant for public consumption. I played three different sports and heard much worse more often.

You don't care that he lies every day. And the press does not lie. Democrats do not lie. This is what I meant above the guy with the little r is corrupt, awful and liar and everyone else is a gentle snowflake. BS

You don't care that he didn't repeal and replace Obamacare. He would have if John McCain didn't scuttle the vote in a vindictive move.And if this two plus year Mueller report hadn't kept any support for his policies to build during his first year in office

You don't care that he didn't lift a finger to fix your border "crisis" (odd, it's not an emergency anymore) What the heck are you talking about. He just punished Mexico, is building the wall and is the only politician doing ANYTHING to mitigate the crisis

You don't care that he's fleecing taxpayers and lining his family's pockets. Prove it. Obama came to office with nothing. Multimillionaire! The Clintons came with nothing. 100's of millions now! Pelosi. Fienstein. Schumer. All grew rich in office. Trump donates his 400K salary every year.

You don't care that spending is higher than ever.

You don't care that liberal tariffs are protecting union jobs at the expense of every other business and citizen in America.

You don't care that government is bigger than ever, and more intrusive than ever. AGAIN What the heck are you talking about.

You don't care that the deficit is at an all time high. OBAMA added 10 Trillion plus 4 trillion to the fed balance sheet. Remember shovel ready projects well OI guess there aren't any shovel ready projects

You don't care that he's lining the pockets of the 1% (guys like me), at the expense of the rest of Americans who really need that help. [color=#FF0000]Check the economy wages and unemployment[/color]

And every time I point out the above list, you come back with whataboutObama? As if that make it ok that Trump is executing the exact opposite policies that a supposed conservative like yourself is for.

If I'm an American liberal? I'm thrilled with Trump's economic policies. More spending. More handouts. More socialism. Protectionist tariffs. Heck, he's about to cut another $18 Billion to handout to rich farmers (you don't think that real family farmers will get one cent of that, do you?). Farmers received a temporary subsidy to carry them through the trade wars—while China is paying 100's of Billions more annually as trade balances out. And we negotiate even more agricultural products sold to those countries who freeze out most of our products

Yet you're cheering. You're the biggest lib on the board, but you're too freaking stubborn to see it. I don't get it. You should be furious at Trump.
Yep I'm cheering. Trumps done more for the average american than any president post war. And you want to grind it to a halt because he said p*ssy once or twice. Toughen up. I bet worse has been uttered over a Leopold Whiskey
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6ftstick wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:56 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 8:55 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:45 pm
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm
a fan wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:00 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 7:51 am One more time for the folks in the liberal apologist vacuum.

Hillary Clinton PURCHASED the info for the dossier—from where all of this collusion delusion has sprung—from RUSSIAN SPIES.

Democrats and the media have been LYING to us for 2+ years.

The Obama administration sat and watched Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Obama told us all, while it was happening, it had NO effect on our elections. Thumbs up to you tho eh.
Nope. You are the only two here who want different standards. You're parroting Hannity. Verbatim. Same cadence. Same jargon.

I posted videos to support my positions—none were Hannity or FOX ]

Notice, as usual, you don't mention that Trump sat and watched Russian interference in the 2018 election. Because you don't actually care about the actual problem. You're just mad that a Dem did it...and ignore it when a Republican does it. Over and over and overt again.

You don't care. You have shown to everyone on the board----multiple times-----that you desperately want one set of standards for Republicans, and one for Democrats.

From a guy who NEVER EVER complains about democrats

As for the rest of us? I'd LOVE to make it illegal for both Hillary's purchase of foreign gossip on an opponent, and for Kush, Trump Jr., et. al. attempt to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian spy. Nothing would have made me happier to that to see all of them in jail. Trump and his crew and Hillary and her crew in Federal prison? Where do I sign for that? Oh please you mocked us unrelentingly for suggesting it. You still do.

You don't care about that. All that matters to you is that some guy with a little R in in charge of government. That's it. Everything else is sound and fury to you. NONSENSE

You don't care that Trump is a POS human being. Your opinion. Based on the lies and leaks a hostile press or Words uttered in private conversations that were never meant for public consumption. I played three different sports and heard much worse more often.

You don't care that he lies every day. And the press does not lie. Democrats do not lie. This is what I meant above the guy with the little r is corrupt, awful and liar and everyone else is a gentle snowflake. BS

You don't care that he didn't repeal and replace Obamacare. He would have if John McCain didn't scuttle the vote in a vindictive move.And if this two plus year Mueller report hadn't kept any support for his policies to build during his first year in office

You don't care that he didn't lift a finger to fix your border "crisis" (odd, it's not an emergency anymore) What the heck are you talking about. He just punished Mexico, is building the wall and is the only politician doing ANYTHING to mitigate the crisis

You don't care that he's fleecing taxpayers and lining his family's pockets. Prove it. Obama came to office with nothing. Multimillionaire! The Clintons came with nothing. 100's of millions now! Pelosi. Fienstein. Schumer. All grew rich in office. Trump donates his 400K salary every year.

You don't care that spending is higher than ever.

You don't care that liberal tariffs are protecting union jobs at the expense of every other business and citizen in America.

You don't care that government is bigger than ever, and more intrusive than ever. AGAIN What the heck are you talking about.

You don't care that the deficit is at an all time high. OBAMA added 10 Trillion plus 4 trillion to the fed balance sheet. Remember shovel ready projects well OI guess there aren't any shovel ready projects

You don't care that he's lining the pockets of the 1% (guys like me), at the expense of the rest of Americans who really need that help. [color=#FF0000]Check the economy wages and unemployment[/color]

And every time I point out the above list, you come back with whataboutObama? As if that make it ok that Trump is executing the exact opposite policies that a supposed conservative like yourself is for.

If I'm an American liberal? I'm thrilled with Trump's economic policies. More spending. More handouts. More socialism. Protectionist tariffs. Heck, he's about to cut another $18 Billion to handout to rich farmers (you don't think that real family farmers will get one cent of that, do you?). Farmers received a temporary subsidy to carry them through the trade wars—while China is paying 100's of Billions more annually as trade balances out. And we negotiate even more agricultural products sold to those countries who freeze out most of our products

Yet you're cheering. You're the biggest lib on the board, but you're too freaking stubborn to see it. I don't get it. You should be furious at Trump.
Yep I'm cheering. Trumps done more for the average american than any president post war. And you want to grind it to a halt because he said p*ssy once or twice. Toughen up. I bet worse has been uttered over a Leopold Whiskey
He da man!
I'm told he loves America too.
Dumb is dumb.
Don't you feel so superior now

Its like being in 4th grade all over again. Insults is all you got.

I'm rubber you're glue what bounces off me sticks to you.
I was referring to the numbskull who told me that “Trump loves America ‘.
Dumb is dumb.

But you apparently think that fits you too?
I just think you are a Trumpist whiner, repeating the propaganda you’re fed.

You don’t like being challenged? “Toughen up”
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6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm From a guy who NEVER EVER complains about democrats
The Dems haven't had power since Obama's first two years. A full decade. I'd be happy to rehash the criticisms I had of Obama for those two years, including what he did do (Obamacare), and what he didn't do (fix immigration).

Them's the breaks. You voted for these Republican **ss clowns. They're on the hook for actually doing their jobs. That's how it works. So yep, I criticize them far more.
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm Oh please you mocked us unrelentingly for suggesting it. You still do.
I mocked you for "lock her up". The dossier is entirely different. There's no law preventing Hill from buying that dossier, sadly. I wish there was. I wish we could toss a politician in jail for doing something like that...or for meeting with Russian spies looking for dirt on Hillary. Both actions are repugnant to me.
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm Your opinion. Based on the lies and leaks a hostile press or Words uttered in private conversations that were never meant for public consumption. I played three different sports and heard much worse more often.
Based on lies? I"m basing this opinion on fully available public information. Trump had an affair while Melania was preggo. You telling me you'd be happy with that if you were Melania's relative? Oh yeah, classy guy.
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm And the press does not lie. Democrats do not lie. This is what I meant above the guy with the little r is corrupt, awful and liar and everyone else is a gentle snowflake. BS
This is at the heart of my beef with you: in what world is this a morally acceptable view? You raise your son like that "oh dad, other people lie, so it's totally ok if I lie to you"? Of course not. You're being ridiculous. Lying is bad, and you should call Trump out for doing it....not tell us that the Dems you hate so much do it, too..."therefore" it's ok for Trump to lie.
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm He would have if John McCain didn't scuttle the vote in a vindictive move.And if this two plus year Mueller report hadn't kept any support for his policies to build during his first year in office
Well, one, don't be such a d*ck to McCain. That's on Trump. He had it coming. And two, all Trump had to do is go back to work, and try and pass the bill again with changes to get more votes. That's how legislation works.
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm What the heck are you talking about. He just punished Mexico, is building the wall and is the only politician doing ANYTHING to mitigate the crisis[/b]
I'm talking about Trump signing not one, not two, but three massive spending bills totaling $3 Trillion, that "whoops" didn't have Trump's magic wall included. Trump doesn't want a wall. He wants a fight. A fight keeps Trump fans like you engaged and happy. It works every time.

If Trump wanted a wall and immigration reform in the first two years when R's controlled both Houses, all he had to do was sign the billon. He didn't. And out come your nonsense excuses as to why he didn't actually fix the single biggest reason he was elected.

You don't care, and neither do his other fans. The border situation is at best the same it was 2 1/2 years ago. But you're thrilled that Trump pretended to fix the problem. And pretended to build his wall. But go ahead, tell me how Trump signed three spending without insisting on his wall money, and without insisting they handle immigration reform first.
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm Prove it. Obama came to office with nothing. Multimillionaire! The Clintons came with nothing. 100's of millions now! Pelosi. Fienstein. Schumer. All grew rich in office. Trump donates his 400K salary every year.
He's staying at Mar a Lago, and billing taxpayers for the stay of all those staffers. Surely you've read the stories with cites from the CBO.
a fan wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm You don't care that government is bigger than ever, and more intrusive than ever
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm AGAIN What the heck are you talking about.
I'm talking about all the spending Trump is doing to make government bigger, and tariffs that allow the the Federal government to pick winning and losing businesses. So auto makers lose, and steel makers win. That's government getting in the way of the free market---something Republicans were against for 5 decades or so....but now no longer care that Trump is doing that.
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm OBAMA added 10 Trillion plus 4 trillion to the fed balance sheet. Remember shovel ready projects well OI guess there aren't any shovel ready projects
Right. And you hated him for it, remember? So why in heaven's name is it ok with you that Trump does it? Exactly: the little R by his name makes all that borrowing and spending and socialism just fine for you.
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm Check the economy wages and unemployment
I have. Have you? Guys like me are doing great. No question there. But folks who are in the bottom half of earning are losing ground, and losing ground fast.
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm farmers received a temporary subsidy to carry them through the trade wars
Right. Socialism. Take money from guys like me, and give it to rich farmers to do nothing. Socialism. You're supposed to hate handouts, remember? The farmers are supposed to work harder. And whatabout all the other millions affected by the trade war? Where's their check? Auto workers? Brewers? Oh, right. They don't get one.

You know none of this money goes to family farmers, right? It just goes to Big-Ag, and guys like Chuck Grassley who plainly don't need the money.
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm while China is paying 100's of Billions more annually as trade balances out.
:lol: Right. Because Trump told you that's what's happening, right?American Importers pay those tariffs, not the Chinese. Question: is the trade deficit better or worse under Trump?

You know the answer.
6ftstick wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 pm Yep I'm cheering. Trumps done more for the average american than any president post war. And you want to grind it to a halt because he said p*ssy once or twice. Toughen up. I bet worse has been uttered over a Leopold Whiskey
The average American has a household----household---income of less than $60K. That average American hasn't been helped by Trump. You and I have done just swell, no question there.
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On the immigration point, which in and of itself is well made as to Trump wanting a fight not a wall, Trump also wanted a 'crisis', justifying the 'fight'.

So, he cut foreign aid to those countries, badly exacerbating an already tough environment.
Plus,
He changed policies on asylum, making the intake process much slower, making it far more likely that migrants would enter illegally.

Nope, can't process faster, no more judges, have to hold them, children separate from parents, can't release families...creating a humanitarian nightmare. "Crisis".
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The HBO docu-drama Chernobyl was outstanding.

5 x 1 hr episodes. Still avail on demand 'til 6/10 (maybe longer) on my Xfinity cable.

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Here's why a base in Syria is of strategic value to Russia.

Russian Su-35 Fighter Makes ‘Irresponsible’ Intercept of Navy P-8A Over Mediterranean

They had SU-35's in Syria. With time lag from detection to intercept, national airspace boundaries/flight clearances, & the long range involved, with uncertain aerial refueling tanker availability, not sure they can get SU-35's to do intercepts in the Med, if they have to launch from Russian bases.

I wonder if our P-8A was tracking a Russian sub ?

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