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choochooCharlie
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Re: NESCAC

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Laxxal22 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:31 pm NESCAC commitments I've seen so far. Will continue to update.

Amherst
Peter Mok - Goal, Avon Old Farms
Oliver Pritchard - Def, Taft
Nate Cootauco - Mid, Gilman
Dutch Lohnes - Lsm, St. Alban's
Kaden Fenno - FO, TMI Episcopal School of Texas
Dylan Kelleher - FO, Santa Fe Christian
Gus Singh - Def, Loyola (Los Angeles)
Ethan Tanner - Lsm/Def, Maple Valley

Bates
Henry McCann - Att, Montclair Kimberley Academy
Luke Taylor - Def, Detroit Catholic Central

Bowdoin
Owen Majit - Att, Corona Del Mar
Edward McElroy - Goal, The Bishop's School
Jack Frischmann - Mid, Phillips Andover
Seb Gozalez - Def, Mercer Island

Colby
Drew Gannon - Lsm, Belmont Hill
James Counselman - Mid, Middlesex
Joey Hagerty - Mid, Wilton
Matias Williams - Att, St. Paul's (New Hampshire)
Rusty Chandler - Mid, Salisbury
Chase Coleman - Mid, Blessed Trinity
Tyler Katt - Lsm/Def, Pingry
Zach Parks - Goal, Gilman
Marek Elia - Def, Marin Catholic

Conn College
Trevor Potente - Mid, Brewster Academy

Hamilton
Ty Green - Def, Skaneateles
Jake Hornick - Lsm/Def, Riverdale Country
Bryce Babich - Def, Bernards
Fin Vaccaro - Att, Bernards

Middlebury
Gavin Romweber - Att, Delbarton
Zach Bernstein - Def, Sharon
Fisher Winslow - Goal, Trinity-Pawling
Brady Boudreau - Mid, Belmont Hill
Teddy Coyle - FO, Seton Hall Prep
Brandon Chan - Mid, King School
Angus Frew - FO, Groton
Will Leahy - Mid, Woodberry Forest
Giacomo Chapman - Att, St. Ignatius

Trinity
Peter Falk - Att, Delbarton
Nick Emsing - Mid, BC High
Rhys Amorsino - FO, St. Sebastian's
Julian Singh - Lsm/Def, St. Sebastian's
Will Chiasson - Mid, Nobles
Taylor Cotton - Mid, Roxbury Latin
Reed Campbell - Att, Haverford

Tufts
Drew Bossi - Att, St. John's Prep
Sam Juhnke - Goal, Windemere Prep
Jack Donovan - Lsm, Kent Denver

Wesleyan
Brian Reilly - Att/Mid, Chaminade
Michael Garrity - Mid, Hingham
Lucas Rosato - Att, Mercer Island

Williams
Teddy Stonestreet - Lsm/Def, Belmont Hill
Andrew Johnson - Mid, Delbarton
Henry Faulkner - Lsm, Trinity School
Kai Switlick - Att, Jesuit Sacramento
choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:13 am
laxrules wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:52 am Why is Wesleyan list so thin?
Because it’s incomplete. People here are bitter that they have a 6th year, and somehow see that as different from their school’s reclassed kids, who then did a PG, to come in and dominate as a 20 year old “true” freshman.

Here’s a better list.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... n/287/2025

Wes will push Tufts next year for the conference ‘ship. Mark my words, true as I predicted Middlebury’s slip.
They even did my ‘Cats dirty, listing them at 2. They’re at 4, ok?
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... s/297/2025
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Re: NESCAC

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choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:26 am
Laxxal22 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:31 pm NESCAC commitments I've seen so far. Will continue to update.

Amherst
Peter Mok - Goal, Avon Old Farms
Oliver Pritchard - Def, Taft
Nate Cootauco - Mid, Gilman
Dutch Lohnes - Lsm, St. Alban's
Kaden Fenno - FO, TMI Episcopal School of Texas
Dylan Kelleher - FO, Santa Fe Christian
Gus Singh - Def, Loyola (Los Angeles)
Ethan Tanner - Lsm/Def, Maple Valley

Bates
Henry McCann - Att, Montclair Kimberley Academy
Luke Taylor - Def, Detroit Catholic Central

Bowdoin
Owen Majit - Att, Corona Del Mar
Edward McElroy - Goal, The Bishop's School
Jack Frischmann - Mid, Phillips Andover
Seb Gozalez - Def, Mercer Island

Colby
Drew Gannon - Lsm, Belmont Hill
James Counselman - Mid, Middlesex
Joey Hagerty - Mid, Wilton
Matias Williams - Att, St. Paul's (New Hampshire)
Rusty Chandler - Mid, Salisbury
Chase Coleman - Mid, Blessed Trinity
Tyler Katt - Lsm/Def, Pingry
Zach Parks - Goal, Gilman
Marek Elia - Def, Marin Catholic

Conn College
Trevor Potente - Mid, Brewster Academy

Hamilton
Ty Green - Def, Skaneateles
Jake Hornick - Lsm/Def, Riverdale Country
Bryce Babich - Def, Bernards
Fin Vaccaro - Att, Bernards

Middlebury
Gavin Romweber - Att, Delbarton
Zach Bernstein - Def, Sharon
Fisher Winslow - Goal, Trinity-Pawling
Brady Boudreau - Mid, Belmont Hill
Teddy Coyle - FO, Seton Hall Prep
Brandon Chan - Mid, King School
Angus Frew - FO, Groton
Will Leahy - Mid, Woodberry Forest
Giacomo Chapman - Att, St. Ignatius

Trinity
Peter Falk - Att, Delbarton
Nick Emsing - Mid, BC High
Rhys Amorsino - FO, St. Sebastian's
Julian Singh - Lsm/Def, St. Sebastian's
Will Chiasson - Mid, Nobles
Taylor Cotton - Mid, Roxbury Latin
Reed Campbell - Att, Haverford

Tufts
Drew Bossi - Att, St. John's Prep
Sam Juhnke - Goal, Windemere Prep
Jack Donovan - Lsm, Kent Denver

Wesleyan
Brian Reilly - Att/Mid, Chaminade
Michael Garrity - Mid, Hingham
Lucas Rosato - Att, Mercer Island

Williams
Teddy Stonestreet - Lsm/Def, Belmont Hill
Andrew Johnson - Mid, Delbarton
Henry Faulkner - Lsm, Trinity School
Kai Switlick - Att, Jesuit Sacramento
choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:13 am
laxrules wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:52 am Why is Wesleyan list so thin?
Because it’s incomplete. People here are bitter that they have a 6th year, and somehow see that as different from their school’s reclassed kids, who then did a PG, to come in and dominate as a 20 year old “true” freshman.

Here’s a better list.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... n/287/2025

Wes will push Tufts next year for the conference ‘ship. Mark my words, true as I predicted Middlebury’s slip.
They even did my ‘Cats dirty, listing them at 2. They’re at 4, ok?
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... s/297/2025
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Re: NESCAC

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choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:13 am
laxrules wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:52 am Why is Wesleyan list so thin?
Because it’s incomplete. People here are bitter that they have a 6th year, and somehow see that as different from their school’s reclassed kids, who then did a PG, to come in and dominate as a 20 year old “true” freshman.

Here’s a better list.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... n/287/2025

Wes will push Tufts next year for the conference ‘ship. Mark my words, true as I predicted Middlebury’s slip.
There is a big difference between a 6th year and a holdback/reclass. Once kids hit high school and college, the age issue becomes moot, you have to play with older kids, reclasses, holdbacks, period. On the other hand, the 6th year is not only older but also eating up playing time for up and coming players, that is the real problem. Also, as noted in prior posts, Wes is in a unique situation in the conference because they have a grad program, so besides creating a bad situation internally for Wes, it affect the entire conference. Every team in the conference can have a holdback/reclass, but only 2 schools can cater to a grad student.
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2019 + 2020 + 2021 + 2022 + 2023 + 2024 + 2025 =7. Middlebury preseason rank, #8. Final results: national quarterfinals, final rank: #10, pre-season assessment...perfect. Likelihood of anyone pushing Tufts for next years conference title? Zero.
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shorelax12 wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:42 pm
choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:13 am
laxrules wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:52 am Why is Wesleyan list so thin?
Because it’s incomplete. People here are bitter that they have a 6th year, and somehow see that as different from their school’s reclassed kids, who then did a PG, to come in and dominate as a 20 year old “true” freshman.

Here’s a better list.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... n/287/2025

Wes will push Tufts next year for the conference ‘ship. Mark my words, true as I predicted Middlebury’s slip.
There is a big difference between a 6th year and a holdback/reclass. Once kids hit high school and college, the age issue becomes moot, you have to play with older kids, reclasses, holdbacks, period. On the other hand, the 6th year is not only older but also eating up playing time for up and coming players, that is the real problem. Also, as noted in prior posts, Wes is in a unique situation in the conference because they have a grad program, so besides creating a bad situation internally for Wes, it affect the entire conference. Every team in the conference can have a holdback/reclass, but only 2 schools can cater to a grad student.
Are you trying to say grads are a disadvantage to have because of internal dynamics, that they are an advantage for the only 2 schools with them in conference, or both?
If grad years magically didn’t exist, couldn’t upperclassmen players still transfer in via the portal, and take opportunities away from players? If you can be in any class, and be expected to compete with a new senoir of your position who transferred in, when the previous starter just graduated, how is that any different than if that same starter stuck around?

The portal is here. Grads are here. Everyone being recruited should look at how their suitors handled both and choose wisely (if playing time will make or break their college experience). Frankly I would also look at how schools and conferences handled their COVID protocols, some places really screwed their paying customers over, and laughed all the way to the bank. History has a funny way of repeating itself.
pcowlax wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:29 pm 2019 + 2020 + 2021 + 2022 + 2023 + 2024 + 2025 =7. Middlebury preseason rank, #8. Final results: national quarterfinals, final rank: #10, pre-season assessment...perfect. Likelihood of anyone pushing Tufts for next years conference title? Zero.
0% chance is a bold prediction.
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choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:16 pm
shorelax12 wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:42 pm
choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:13 am
laxrules wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:52 am Why is Wesleyan list so thin?
Because it’s incomplete. People here are bitter that they have a 6th year, and somehow see that as different from their school’s reclassed kids, who then did a PG, to come in and dominate as a 20 year old “true” freshman.

Here’s a better list.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... n/287/2025

Wes will push Tufts next year for the conference ‘ship. Mark my words, true as I predicted Middlebury’s slip.
There is a big difference between a 6th year and a holdback/reclass. Once kids hit high school and college, the age issue becomes moot, you have to play with older kids, reclasses, holdbacks, period. On the other hand, the 6th year is not only older but also eating up playing time for up and coming players, that is the real problem. Also, as noted in prior posts, Wes is in a unique situation in the conference because they have a grad program, so besides creating a bad situation internally for Wes, it affect the entire conference. Every team in the conference can have a holdback/reclass, but only 2 schools can cater to a grad student.
Are you trying to say grads are a disadvantage to have because of internal dynamics, that they are an advantage for the only 2 schools with them in conference, or both?
If grad years magically didn’t exist, couldn’t upperclassmen players still transfer in via the portal, and take opportunities away from players? If you can be in any class, and be expected to compete with a new senoir of your position who transferred in, when the previous starter just graduated, how is that any different than if that same starter stuck around?

The portal is here. Grads are here. Everyone being recruited should look at how their suitors handled both and choose wisely (if playing time will make or break their college experience). Frankly I would also look at how schools and conferences handled their COVID protocols, some places really screwed their paying customers over, and laughed all the way to the bank. History has a funny way of repeating itself.
pcowlax wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:29 pm 2019 + 2020 + 2021 + 2022 + 2023 + 2024 + 2025 =7. Middlebury preseason rank, #8. Final results: national quarterfinals, final rank: #10, pre-season assessment...perfect. Likelihood of anyone pushing Tufts for next years conference title? Zero.
0% chance is a bold prediction.

Agree. But Wes is losing a lot of scoring around Raba and Tufts, outside of goal, is returning almost literally everyone who contributed anything. They are losing 1 out of their top 20 scorers!!! #10 with 15 points. It may be hard to stay as hungry coming off a title and they will be reading a lot of press clippings blow smoke up their arse. If they can stay driven, focused and healthy, this may well be the best team tufts has ever fielded next year. Bowdoin loses Byrne. I think biggest threat, based on returning scoring at least, might be Amherst but if Tufts plays to their potential, they will be close enough to unbeatable to say that the odds of them not winning the conference is zero.
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I was just asking about the list. Didn’t mean to stir up business. Wesleyan is a player for sure. But I am predicting a jumbo 2025
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pcowlax wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 4:04 pm Agree. But Wes is losing a lot of scoring around Raba and Tufts, outside of goal, is returning almost literally everyone who contributed anything. They are losing 1 out of their top 20 scorers!!! #10 with 15 points. It may be hard to stay as hungry coming off a title and they will be reading a lot of press clippings blow smoke up their arse. If they can stay driven, focused and healthy, this may well be the best team tufts has ever fielded next year. Bowdoin loses Byrne. I think biggest threat, based on returning scoring at least, might be Amherst but if Tufts plays to their potential, they will be close enough to unbeatable to say that the odds of them not winning the conference is zero.
They’ll be the team to beat for sure, but you lost me at unbeatable. They lost to Hamilton last year, with just about the same roster they’re rolling into 2025. HAMILTON. That’s not “not playing to their potential,” that’s totally mailing it in for a team of their talent. They should’ve beat Hamilton in their sleep. And that is exactly what I’ve been referencing (much to some people’s chagrin). The issue with this squad is the arrogance, and it starts at the top. If they walked in knowing that the team on the other side (usually RIT or Salisbury) IS NOT AFRAID OF THEM, they would have at least 2 more NCs. Every game matters. Why do I know that and they don’t?
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laxrules wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:49 pm I was just asking about the list. Didn’t mean to stir up business. Wesleyan is a player for sure. But I am predicting a jumbo 2025
Not your fault. Some squads have a lot of fans on here giving updates etc and some are pigeon holed by the masses, being viewed as competition. ah23 and I are the only Bates guys I’m aware of, and even when Bates made a run pre-COVID it was like they weren’t playing at all. It is what it is, Wesleyan, like Tufts, keeps talent coming in, but the Jumbos need to solve the issue they have of thinking that they can beat people simply by walking on the field in Tufts uniforms. Winning last year and keeping most players might actually exacerbate the problem IMO, even though their talent has been able to offset it in most cases.
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Ok gotcha, glad I didn’t stir it up.
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choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:53 pm They’ll be the team to beat for sure, but you lost me at unbeatable. They lost to Hamilton last year, with just about the same roster they’re rolling into 2025. HAMILTON. That’s not “not playing to their potential,” that’s totally mailing it in for a team of their talent. They should’ve beat Hamilton in their sleep. And that is exactly what I’ve been referencing (much to some people’s chagrin). The issue with this squad is the arrogance, and it starts at the top. If they walked in knowing that the team on the other side (usually RIT or Salisbury) IS NOT AFRAID OF THEM, they would have at least 2 more NCs. Every game matters. Why do I know that and they don’t?
Lol that's funny.

At the DIII level, unless your name is Salisbury (I am not taking anything away from RIT in 2021), and you play a full schedule, you are not going undefeated on your way to a national championship in lacrosse. Bumps in the road happen, from JUCO all the way up. I forgot that that we are dealing with professionals and not 18-22 year olds
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choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:16 pm
shorelax12 wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:42 pm
choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:13 am
laxrules wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:52 am Why is Wesleyan list so thin?
Because it’s incomplete. People here are bitter that they have a 6th year, and somehow see that as different from their school’s reclassed kids, who then did a PG, to come in and dominate as a 20 year old “true” freshman.

Here’s a better list.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... n/287/2025

Wes will push Tufts next year for the conference ‘ship. Mark my words, true as I predicted Middlebury’s slip.
There is a big difference between a 6th year and a holdback/reclass. Once kids hit high school and college, the age issue becomes moot, you have to play with older kids, reclasses, holdbacks, period. On the other hand, the 6th year is not only older but also eating up playing time for up and coming players, that is the real problem. Also, as noted in prior posts, Wes is in a unique situation in the conference because they have a grad program, so besides creating a bad situation internally for Wes, it affect the entire conference. Every team in the conference can have a holdback/reclass, but only 2 schools can cater to a grad student.
Are you trying to say grads are a disadvantage to have because of internal dynamics, that they are an advantage for the only 2 schools with them in conference, or both?
If grad years magically didn’t exist, couldn’t upperclassmen players still transfer in via the portal, and take opportunities away from players? If you can be in any class, and be expected to compete with a new senoir of your position who transferred in, when the previous starter just graduated, how is that any different than if that same starter stuck around?

The portal is here. Grads are here. Everyone being recruited should look at how their suitors handled both and choose wisely (if playing time will make or break their college experience). Frankly I would also look at how schools and conferences handled their COVID protocols, some places really screwed their paying customers over, and laughed all the way to the bank. History has a funny way of repeating itself.
pcowlax wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:29 pm 2019 + 2020 + 2021 + 2022 + 2023 + 2024 + 2025 =7. Middlebury preseason rank, #8. Final results: national quarterfinals, final rank: #10, pre-season assessment...perfect. Likelihood of anyone pushing Tufts for next years conference title? Zero.
0% chance is a bold prediction.
My suggestion is that having the grad student eating up playing time can negatively impact the morale of the underclassmen (i.e. "internal dynamics") that is seeing less time on the field. I completely appreciate that the best player should get the most time, but a lot, not all, kids make a decision on what school they want to attend by looking at the roster and the potential opportunity to play. As I posted earlier, in the case of Wes, it also happens to be the son of the coach that recruited you. It's like taking daddy ball the next level. As for your other question, yes, you could lose playing time to a transfer, but it probably stings a little less when they are on equal footing as you, as opposed to playing under a the guy who got the extra eligibility, while the underclassmen only has a 4-year window. Also, I think that you would be hard pressed to find a player that transferred into a NESCAC junior or senior year. As for your grad school question, yes, it is an advantage for the two schools as the were able to retain their best players with eligibility, Raba being a perfect example. To be honest we are probably wasting more time on an issue that is going away, but just my two-cents.
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shorelax12 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:23 am
choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:16 pm
shorelax12 wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:42 pm
choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:13 am
laxrules wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:52 am Why is Wesleyan list so thin?
Because it’s incomplete. People here are bitter that they have a 6th year, and somehow see that as different from their school’s reclassed kids, who then did a PG, to come in and dominate as a 20 year old “true” freshman.

Here’s a better list.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... n/287/2025

Wes will push Tufts next year for the conference ‘ship. Mark my words, true as I predicted Middlebury’s slip.
There is a big difference between a 6th year and a holdback/reclass. Once kids hit high school and college, the age issue becomes moot, you have to play with older kids, reclasses, holdbacks, period. On the other hand, the 6th year is not only older but also eating up playing time for up and coming players, that is the real problem. Also, as noted in prior posts, Wes is in a unique situation in the conference because they have a grad program, so besides creating a bad situation internally for Wes, it affect the entire conference. Every team in the conference can have a holdback/reclass, but only 2 schools can cater to a grad student.
Are you trying to say grads are a disadvantage to have because of internal dynamics, that they are an advantage for the only 2 schools with them in conference, or both?
If grad years magically didn’t exist, couldn’t upperclassmen players still transfer in via the portal, and take opportunities away from players? If you can be in any class, and be expected to compete with a new senoir of your position who transferred in, when the previous starter just graduated, how is that any different than if that same starter stuck around?

The portal is here. Grads are here. Everyone being recruited should look at how their suitors handled both and choose wisely (if playing time will make or break their college experience). Frankly I would also look at how schools and conferences handled their COVID protocols, some places really screwed their paying customers over, and laughed all the way to the bank. History has a funny way of repeating itself.
pcowlax wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:29 pm 2019 + 2020 + 2021 + 2022 + 2023 + 2024 + 2025 =7. Middlebury preseason rank, #8. Final results: national quarterfinals, final rank: #10, pre-season assessment...perfect. Likelihood of anyone pushing Tufts for next years conference title? Zero.
0% chance is a bold prediction.
My suggestion is that having the grad student eating up playing time can negatively impact the morale of the underclassmen (i.e. "internal dynamics") that is seeing less time on the field. I completely appreciate that the best player should get the most time, but a lot, not all, kids make a decision on what school they want to attend by looking at the roster and the potential opportunity to play. As I posted earlier, in the case of Wes, it also happens to be the son of the coach that recruited you. It's like taking daddy ball the next level. As for your other question, yes, you could lose playing time to a transfer, but it probably stings a little less when they are on equal footing as you, as opposed to playing under a the guy who got the extra eligibility, while the underclassmen only has a 4-year window. Also, I think that you would be hard pressed to find a player that transferred into a NESCAC junior or senior year. As for your grad school question, yes, it is an advantage for the two schools as the were able to retain their best players with eligibility, Raba being a perfect example. To be honest we are probably wasting more time on an issue that is going away, but just my two-cents.
Good points, and yes, it will be over soon. What ever will we complain about when that time comes?
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What ever will we complain about when that time comes?
Should Tufts go D1?
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sguy9 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:27 am
What ever will we complain about when that time comes?
Should Tufts go D1?
Pull pin, and throw grenade into the NESCAC forum....
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shorelax12 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:28 am
sguy9 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:27 am
What ever will we complain about when that time comes?
Should Tufts go D1?
Pull pin, and throw grenade into the NESCAC forum....
Tufts to the Ivy? Spicy stuff right there. How would they fare? I don’t think they would perform too poorly, but the ultimate results in the W/L column would probably humble them up a bit.
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Tufts would do alright...but they'd have to recruit BFS...The difference in size and speed is typically the difference between the divisions (outside of D2)....I would however say lacrosse is one those sports that is closer athletically between divisions than say Football, Basketball and Hockey etc.
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pcowlax wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:29 pm 2019 + 2020 + 2021 + 2022 + 2023 + 2024 + 2025 =7. Middlebury preseason rank, #8. Final results: national quarterfinals, final rank: #10, pre-season assessment...perfect. Likelihood of anyone pushing Tufts for next years conference title? Zero.
So, as a Tufts dad, I'd love to agree with you. Would love to!! That said, I think every NESCAC team brings their very best against the Bo's next year. Tufts is loaded and will be the preseason #1 team in the country.....doesn't mean Sh!t!! Gotta win when it counts baby!
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pcowlax wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 4:04 pm
choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:16 pm
shorelax12 wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:42 pm
choochooCharlie wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:13 am
laxrules wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:52 am Why is Wesleyan list so thin?
Because it’s incomplete. People here are bitter that they have a 6th year, and somehow see that as different from their school’s reclassed kids, who then did a PG, to come in and dominate as a 20 year old “true” freshman.

Here’s a better list.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... n/287/2025

Wes will push Tufts next year for the conference ‘ship. Mark my words, true as I predicted Middlebury’s slip.
There is a big difference between a 6th year and a holdback/reclass. Once kids hit high school and college, the age issue becomes moot, you have to play with older kids, reclasses, holdbacks, period. On the other hand, the 6th year is not only older but also eating up playing time for up and coming players, that is the real problem. Also, as noted in prior posts, Wes is in a unique situation in the conference because they have a grad program, so besides creating a bad situation internally for Wes, it affect the entire conference. Every team in the conference can have a holdback/reclass, but only 2 schools can cater to a grad student.
Are you trying to say grads are a disadvantage to have because of internal dynamics, that they are an advantage for the only 2 schools with them in conference, or both?
If grad years magically didn’t exist, couldn’t upperclassmen players still transfer in via the portal, and take opportunities away from players? If you can be in any class, and be expected to compete with a new senoir of your position who transferred in, when the previous starter just graduated, how is that any different than if that same starter stuck around?

The portal is here. Grads are here. Everyone being recruited should look at how their suitors handled both and choose wisely (if playing time will make or break their college experience). Frankly I would also look at how schools and conferences handled their COVID protocols, some places really screwed their paying customers over, and laughed all the way to the bank. History has a funny way of repeating itself.
pcowlax wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:29 pm 2019 + 2020 + 2021 + 2022 + 2023 + 2024 + 2025 =7. Middlebury preseason rank, #8. Final results: national quarterfinals, final rank: #10, pre-season assessment...perfect. Likelihood of anyone pushing Tufts for next years conference title? Zero.
0% chance is a bold prediction.

Agree. But Wes is losing a lot of scoring around Raba and Tufts, outside of goal, is returning almost literally everyone who contributed anything. They are losing 1 out of their top 20 scorers!!! #10 with 15 points. It may be hard to stay as hungry coming off a title and they will be reading a lot of press clippings blow smoke up their arse. If they can stay driven, focused and healthy, this may well be the best team tufts has ever fielded next year. Bowdoin loses Byrne. I think biggest threat, based on returning scoring at least, might be Amherst but if Tufts plays to their potential, they will be close enough to unbeatable to say that the odds of them not winning the conference is zero.
pcow, I think your prediction is fair and realistic. One correction, they bring everyone back, Garzone is using his extra year so entire starting lineup is back. If they don't win it quite a few folks here will be quite happy. Tough to win a Natty let alone repeat...we shall see. Totally agree, hard to stay hungry and health is also a big issue with every team. Leadership/chemistry will be a key element. Roll Bos!!
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sguy9 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:27 am
What ever will we complain about when that time comes?
Should Tufts go D1?
Uh, no
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