That would be a very good idea. I'd even argue Trump should recite it with minor edits.ggait wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:24 amI’d encourage folks to look up and read RFK’s speech on the night that MLK was killed.Kismet wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:46 am Things have not changed around here with the latest developments so if anyone is expecting things to improve, wouldn't count on it.
BTW - within minutes of the shooting sitting senators Vance and Scott both Tweeted that Biden was responsible for yesterday's shooting.
Real leadership there fellas![]()
Brave. Eloquent. Genuine.
That was back when we had real leaders.
President Donald J. Trump—Part ll
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A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: President Donald J. Trump—Part ll
Listen yourselvesggait wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:24 amI’d encourage folks to look up and read RFK’s speech on the night that MLK was killed.Kismet wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:46 am Things have not changed around here with the latest developments so if anyone is expecting things to improve, wouldn't count on it.
BTW - within minutes of the shooting sitting senators Vance and Scott both Tweeted that Biden was responsible for yesterday's shooting.
Real leadership there fellas![]()
Brave. Eloquent. Genuine.
That was back when we had real leaders.
The idea that OD could give a speech like this (or even read it) is fantastically ludicrous
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Trump was the only one to notice Biden wasn’t cogent in 2019. For that reason he is more qualified than any of his opponents. They are obviously not too bright.
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Trump's Washington Examiner Interview After Failed Assassination Attempt
Trump: ‘I’m not supposed to be here’
By Byron York
July 14, 2024
TRUMP: ‘I’M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE‘: Former President Donald Trump can’t stop thinking about the way he moved his head in the split second before a gunman, intent on assassinating him, pulled the trigger during his speech in Pennsylvania Saturday evening. Trump was standing at the podium and began to refer to a large screen, hanging to his right, that showed statistics about immigration. To better see the screen, Trump turned his head to the right and a little up, and at the millisecond in which his head was at just the right angle for the bullet to graze his ear but not enter his skull — at that moment, the bullet whizzed by. Trump suffered a bloody wound to his ear, but no other injuries. It seemed like a miracle.
“The most incredible thing was that I happened to not only turn but to turn at the exact right time and in just the right amount,” Trump said Sunday afternoon in a talk aboard his 757 as he flew to Milwaukee for the start of the Republican National Convention. “If I only half-turn, it hits the back of the brain. The other way goes right through [the skull]. And because the sign was high, I’m looking up. The chances of my making a perfect turn are probably one tenth of one percent, so I’m not supposed to be here.”
“I had to be at the exact right angle,” Trump said at another point in the conversation, which included the New York Post’s Michael Goodwin. “Because the thing was an eighth of an inch away. That I would turn exactly at that second, where he [the gunman] wouldn’t stop the shot is pretty amazing. Pretty amazing. I’m really not supposed to be here.”
Dressed in a dark suit with no tie and a gauze bandage taped to his ear, Trump spoke highly of the Secret Service agents who covered him while he was down on the stage. At one point, he rolled up his right sleeve and showed a deep red and black bruise where the agents made sure he stayed down. “That’s just from a guy grabbing me,” Trump said. “You know how strong you have to be to do that?” Trump also said he insisted on getting up and walking off the stage under his own power. “I said, I’ve got to walk out, I have to walk out,” Trump continued. “I did not want to be carried out. I’ve seen people being carried out, and it’s not good. And I had no problem with walking.”
I said that watching the video, it appeared that after being shot, surrounded by agents shielding him from any further threat, Trump actually wanted to return to the microphone to continue speaking. Indeed he did. “I wanted to keep speaking — I wanted to keep speaking, but I just got shot,” Trump said with a little laugh. “It’s a very surreal experience, and you never know what you’re going to do until a thing like that happens.”
It was obvious that Trump was still processing what had happened. Who wouldn’t be? It is something that will stay with him for the rest of his life. At the moment, he is grappling with the feeling that something very big has changed in his life and in the presidential race. When I asked him, “Does this change your campaign?” he immediately answered, “Yes.”
Trump explained that before Saturday night, he had finished the speech he planned to give later this week at the Republican convention. “I basically had a speech that was an unbelievable rip-roarer,” he said. “It was brutal — really good, really tough. [Last night] I threw it out. I think it would be very bad if I got up and started going wild about how horrible everybody is, and how corrupt and crooked, even if it’s true. Had this not happened, we had a speech that was pretty well set that was extremely tough. Now, we have a speech that is more unifying.”
Trump did not mean that a new speech has been fully written, but parts of it have already been drafted, starting in the hours after the assassination attempt. The idea is to reframe the intense conflicts Trump has engaged in during his years in national politics. “I’ve been fighting a group of people that I considered very bad people for a long time, and they’ve been fighting me, and we’ve put up a very good fight,” Trump said. “We had a very tough speech, and I threw it out last night, I said I can’t say these things after what I’ve been through.”
Some of the people Trump talks to around the world of politics and business have suggested to him that he could use the assassination attempt as a starting point to try to be a more unifying candidate. Given the history of the last eight years, it’s an idea that seems wildly improbable. But an assassination attempt is a very big thing. There hasn’t been one of a president in more than 40 years, and there hasn’t been one of a leading presidential candidate in longer. It is hard to predict what effect it will have. But Trump suspects the chances of fundamental political change coming from the Pennsylvania attack are probably not great.
“I’d love to achieve unity if you could achieve unity, if that’s possible,” Trump said. “There are many good people on the other side…But there are also people who are very divided. Some people actually want open borders and some people don’t want open borders. The question is can those two sides get together? Can sides where you have people who want to see men play in women’s sports, and you have a side that doesn’t understand even the concept of allowing that to happen [get together]?”
Trump knows it’s a long shot. “It has an impact,” he said of the assassination attempt. “Now, maybe the impact will wear off if the other side gets nasty.” It seems quite likely that that is exactly what will happen and the fighting will resume, even though both Trump and President Joe Biden are talking about unity.
But even if it does not bring lasting political change, a brush with death has had an obvious effect on Donald Trump. He survived “by luck or by God,” he said. Once the trigger was pulled, the chances of Trump avoiding a fatal injury seemed infinitesimally small. “I mean, I’m supposed to be dead, I’m not supposed to be here,” Trump said yet again. “It did have a lot of impact.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... o-be-here/
By Byron York
July 14, 2024
TRUMP: ‘I’M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE‘: Former President Donald Trump can’t stop thinking about the way he moved his head in the split second before a gunman, intent on assassinating him, pulled the trigger during his speech in Pennsylvania Saturday evening. Trump was standing at the podium and began to refer to a large screen, hanging to his right, that showed statistics about immigration. To better see the screen, Trump turned his head to the right and a little up, and at the millisecond in which his head was at just the right angle for the bullet to graze his ear but not enter his skull — at that moment, the bullet whizzed by. Trump suffered a bloody wound to his ear, but no other injuries. It seemed like a miracle.
“The most incredible thing was that I happened to not only turn but to turn at the exact right time and in just the right amount,” Trump said Sunday afternoon in a talk aboard his 757 as he flew to Milwaukee for the start of the Republican National Convention. “If I only half-turn, it hits the back of the brain. The other way goes right through [the skull]. And because the sign was high, I’m looking up. The chances of my making a perfect turn are probably one tenth of one percent, so I’m not supposed to be here.”
“I had to be at the exact right angle,” Trump said at another point in the conversation, which included the New York Post’s Michael Goodwin. “Because the thing was an eighth of an inch away. That I would turn exactly at that second, where he [the gunman] wouldn’t stop the shot is pretty amazing. Pretty amazing. I’m really not supposed to be here.”
Dressed in a dark suit with no tie and a gauze bandage taped to his ear, Trump spoke highly of the Secret Service agents who covered him while he was down on the stage. At one point, he rolled up his right sleeve and showed a deep red and black bruise where the agents made sure he stayed down. “That’s just from a guy grabbing me,” Trump said. “You know how strong you have to be to do that?” Trump also said he insisted on getting up and walking off the stage under his own power. “I said, I’ve got to walk out, I have to walk out,” Trump continued. “I did not want to be carried out. I’ve seen people being carried out, and it’s not good. And I had no problem with walking.”
I said that watching the video, it appeared that after being shot, surrounded by agents shielding him from any further threat, Trump actually wanted to return to the microphone to continue speaking. Indeed he did. “I wanted to keep speaking — I wanted to keep speaking, but I just got shot,” Trump said with a little laugh. “It’s a very surreal experience, and you never know what you’re going to do until a thing like that happens.”
It was obvious that Trump was still processing what had happened. Who wouldn’t be? It is something that will stay with him for the rest of his life. At the moment, he is grappling with the feeling that something very big has changed in his life and in the presidential race. When I asked him, “Does this change your campaign?” he immediately answered, “Yes.”
Trump explained that before Saturday night, he had finished the speech he planned to give later this week at the Republican convention. “I basically had a speech that was an unbelievable rip-roarer,” he said. “It was brutal — really good, really tough. [Last night] I threw it out. I think it would be very bad if I got up and started going wild about how horrible everybody is, and how corrupt and crooked, even if it’s true. Had this not happened, we had a speech that was pretty well set that was extremely tough. Now, we have a speech that is more unifying.”
Trump did not mean that a new speech has been fully written, but parts of it have already been drafted, starting in the hours after the assassination attempt. The idea is to reframe the intense conflicts Trump has engaged in during his years in national politics. “I’ve been fighting a group of people that I considered very bad people for a long time, and they’ve been fighting me, and we’ve put up a very good fight,” Trump said. “We had a very tough speech, and I threw it out last night, I said I can’t say these things after what I’ve been through.”
Some of the people Trump talks to around the world of politics and business have suggested to him that he could use the assassination attempt as a starting point to try to be a more unifying candidate. Given the history of the last eight years, it’s an idea that seems wildly improbable. But an assassination attempt is a very big thing. There hasn’t been one of a president in more than 40 years, and there hasn’t been one of a leading presidential candidate in longer. It is hard to predict what effect it will have. But Trump suspects the chances of fundamental political change coming from the Pennsylvania attack are probably not great.
“I’d love to achieve unity if you could achieve unity, if that’s possible,” Trump said. “There are many good people on the other side…But there are also people who are very divided. Some people actually want open borders and some people don’t want open borders. The question is can those two sides get together? Can sides where you have people who want to see men play in women’s sports, and you have a side that doesn’t understand even the concept of allowing that to happen [get together]?”
Trump knows it’s a long shot. “It has an impact,” he said of the assassination attempt. “Now, maybe the impact will wear off if the other side gets nasty.” It seems quite likely that that is exactly what will happen and the fighting will resume, even though both Trump and President Joe Biden are talking about unity.
But even if it does not bring lasting political change, a brush with death has had an obvious effect on Donald Trump. He survived “by luck or by God,” he said. Once the trigger was pulled, the chances of Trump avoiding a fatal injury seemed infinitesimally small. “I mean, I’m supposed to be dead, I’m not supposed to be here,” Trump said yet again. “It did have a lot of impact.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... o-be-here/
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Luck? C'mon, he's the chosen one, this was an act of God.He survived “by luck or by God,” he said.
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Looked to me like he actually turned into the bullet. If he hadn’t turned his head, the bullet would have missed him entirely. In either event, he’s one lucky son of a b*tch.
Will he change because of this? Remains to be seen, but I highly doubt it. Did Hitler change after his troops tried to assassinate him? No.
Will he change because of this? Remains to be seen, but I highly doubt it. Did Hitler change after his troops tried to assassinate him? No.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump—Part ll
He was non-committal, but with seemingly everything going his way, it is a reasonable conclusion you allege here, DMac:
"No weapon formed against you will prosper."
Re: President Donald J. Trump—Part ll
Yup. There is no chance the conman changes. He is a grifter and this is just one more grift, and the same fools will fall for it, as they always do. He is SO predictable. He is trying to make people think he has softened his bullying personality. He has people in his own party that are unhappy about his changing abortion stance. A rift between the religious nuts and the old guard. He can't make them both happy.njbill wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:10 am Looked to me like he actually turned into the bullet. If he hadn’t turned his head, the bullet would have missed him entirely. In either event, he’s one lucky son of a b*tch.
Will he change because of this? Remains to be seen, but I highly doubt it. Did Hitler change after his troops tried to assassinate him? No.
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Re: Teflon Don on Time Magazine - That's quite a cover
Trump has defeated the sick and insane left. Watching them convulse like a salted slug is so refreshing !!
77 year old multi billionaire should be on a yacht in the Med. instead he’s in Pennsylvania spitting out bullets to save his country.
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That couldn't possibly be any more perfect.
Bravo Zulu.
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I doubt it as well, which is understating by a lot.
The only change from bloodied faced warrior who
spits bullets (we've already seen that one) will be
another level of unbearable rhetoric including claims
of exhibiting more bravery than Sgt. York and Audie Murphy.
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"Donald Trump encourages and protects frightened US Secret Service members who cling to his massive balls as he leads them to safety after failed assassination attempt."
Re: President Donald J. Trump—Part ll
...so now you've done a remote forensic analysis ? Keep those Nazi inferences coming.njbill wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:10 am Looked to me like he actually turned into the bullet. If he hadn’t turned his head, the bullet would have missed him entirely. In either event, he’s one lucky son of a b*tch.
Will he change because of this? Remains to be seen, but I highly doubt it. Did Hitler change after his troops tried to assassinate him? No.
Re: Teflon Don on Time Magazine - That's quite a cover
Knowing full well it's a fools errand to respond, but I'm not so sure you could give a more inaccurate description of what's going on in that picture, unless you said the agent's hand is down there to give the bloodied warrior a hand job during the ruckus.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 4:23 pm
"Donald Trump encourages and protects frightened US Secret Service members who cling to his massive balls as he leads them to safety after failed assassination attempt."
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... Essex is a comedian ... actually found his post funny!DMac wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 4:40 pmKnowing full well it's a fools errand to respond, but I'm not so sure you could give a more inaccurate description of what's going on in that picture, unless you said the agent's hand is down there to give the bloodied warrior a hand job during the ruckus.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 4:23 pm
"Donald Trump encourages and protects frightened US Secret Service members who cling to his massive balls as he leads them to safety after failed assassination attempt."
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Re: President Donald J. Trump—Part ll
I don't think Trump will change his zebra stripes. Maybe his language for a short time.
But it's happened before.
How a Failed Assassination Attempt Pushed George Wallace to Reconsider His Segregationist Views
But it's happened before.
How a Failed Assassination Attempt Pushed George Wallace to Reconsider His Segregationist Views