Go for it. War is ugly.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:01 pmMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:58 pmYou're ignoring what I wrote. Typical "Petey" behavior.Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:53 pmHe knew innocents were all around the line of fire and did it over and over.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:37 pmIs it your contention that Obama intentionally murdered specific innocent American citizens, not enemy combatants in a state of war, in an arena of warfare, and with collateral damage an unfortunate cost?Essexfenwick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:21 pm
Huh ? Without immunity Obama is on the hook for drone murdering over 1000 innocent people including American citizens. He did it over and over after he knew it was happening .
You think Obama isn’t immune to murder?
Do you imagine that he did so intentionally, over the objections of multiple counsel who review such decisions for legality?
My own hunch is that he wasn't relying on "immunity" for such decisions but rather on the confidence that the actions he was taking were not prosecutable as 'murder' under any federal or state statute. I doubt that counsel was telling him he had 'absolute immunity'.
So, care was taken to not commit 'murder'. And we should want Presidents to take care, right?
What SCOTUS has ostensibly done is grant immunity for intentional murder of domestic political opponents if exercised through the offices as commander in chief. That was the proposition they did not thoroughly reject.
He would have to prove his “care” in multiple murder trials. Over 1000 innocents murdered in multiple events is far more serious than the Trump lawfare cases.
Then the civil trials to compensate the families of the murdered innocents including American citizens
Obama drone murdered more innocents than all the mass shootings of the last 20 years.
Again, I very much doubt that his legal counsel was EVER claiming absolute immunity, indeed quite the opposite.
BTW, Presidents do have civil immunity for acts as President...well established.
This is a really dumb or ignorant argument you're making, very troll-like as it appears intentional.
"Trump lawfare"...such a dumb term.
Criminal actions are being prosecuted, both state and federal.
Some performed pre Presidency, some post Presidency.
Some overlapping, but for personal benefit not Presidential duties.
Due Process. Juries. 12-0.
So far.