President Donald J. Trump—Part ll

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BBC reporting that spectators informed police when they saw the sniper crawling on the roof.
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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:58 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:55 pm I am in the center of Times Square.

Not a single video monitor reporting that President Trump has been shot.

The depth of the censorship and propaganda is astounding.

https://x.com/drsimonegold/status/1812269690137293280
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:02 pm “Would any of us—if I thought I had just been shot, the idea of standing up and instantly wanting to signal to the entire crowd that he was okay, and that he was fighting, pumping his fist in the air—there aren’t too many humans that are made this way.”

Martha MacCallum

Trump

High school baseball captain.
Ivy educated
Rebuilt manhattan
Scratch golfer
Best selling author
Billionaire
Only mates with world class beauties
Healthy Ivy educated children
Decades long tv star
Owns iconic properties worldwide
President on a shoestring budget
Has surpassed Hillary and witnessed the demise of Biden
Kept the world at peace
Low inflation
Launched the covid vaccine
Cut taxes
Border secure
Rearranged politics turning the GOP into the working person, anti-war, skeptics of big business party a huge growth position.

Broke the following stories years ahead of the media and deserving of multiple pulitzers
1) Obama admin wiretapped an opposition campaign
2) Russian Collusion was a hoax
3) Russian Bounties was a hoax
4) Covid from a Chinese lab not a bat
5)Hunter laptop was authentic
6) Biden was not cogent

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Survived an assassination attempt

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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:11 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:12 pm In the heat of the moment, at his core--a fighter. Remarkable.
A fighter? The draft dodger?

Secret Service has a lot of questions to answer.
yup. Shot at from about 1100 feet. Would not have thought anyone could get a rifle that close on high ground. Also the shooter was a 20 year old from western PA - name not released. Also being reported that Trump was not hit with the first shot. To me it looked like the shooter just sprayed the crowd after everyone hit the deck.
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Reagan and Trump--Cut From the Same Cloth

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“Missed me.”

Just two months after he was shot in an attempted assassination, a balloon popped whilst Ronald Reagan was giving a speech in West Berlin.

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No doubt this kind of reckless rhetoric will now have to be toned down. Disgusting. An assassination attempt resulting in a bloodied but defiant former President with his fist raised in the air is the worst possible outcome for those who were grossly irresponsible with their words and message. No doubt, more well-deserved and long overdue scrutiny will now be focused on the Biden administration, talking heads in mainstream media and the entire Left.

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1812299410660880501

https://x.com/FiveTimesAugust/status/18 ... 8885839308
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kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:29 pm BBC reporting that spectators informed police when they saw the sniper crawling on the roof.
Let's hope the investigation into the apparently lax training and preparation of the Secret Service for this event is extensive and thorough. They were obviously not vigilantly alert.
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:06 am No doubt this kind of reckless rhetoric will now have to be toned down. Disgusting. An assassination attempt resulting in a bloodied but defiant former President with his fist raised in the air is the worst possible outcome for those who were grossly irresponsible with their words and message. No doubt, more well-deserved and long overdue scrutiny will now be focused on the Biden administration, talking heads in mainstream media and the entire Left.

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1812299410660880501

https://x.com/FiveTimesAugust/status/18 ... 8885839308
And this...

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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:32 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:06 am No doubt this kind of reckless rhetoric will now have to be toned down. Disgusting. An assassination attempt resulting in a bloodied but defiant former President with his fist raised in the air is the worst possible outcome for those who were grossly irresponsible with their words and message. No doubt, more well-deserved and long overdue scrutiny will now be focused on the Biden administration, talking heads in mainstream media and the entire Left.

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1812299410660880501

https://x.com/FiveTimesAugust/status/18 ... 8885839308
And this...

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And of course:

Trump 'more dangerous' than Hitler, Mussolini: McCaskill

Former President Trump is “more dangerous” than some of the most notorious dictators in the history of the world, says former senator:

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4322 ... test=mlite
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:32 am An assassination attempt resulting in a bloodied but defiant former President with his fist raised in the air is the worst possible outcome for those who were grossly irresponsible with their words and message.
A writer couldn't have scripted it better, KWT (King Wannabe Trump) will ride this right into the Oval Office. If there was any doubt about whether or not he'd be your next President, there (sadly) isn't anymore. He'll ride this bloodied face, fist raised picture right to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Won't be surprised to see this tough guy war hero (between his ears that's what he'll be...and to his cult members too) wearing a Purple Heart earring on the superficially wounded ear (Holyfield's was worse) the next time we see him. I'm truly sorry the shooter missed the mark.
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What and who you support defines who and what you are disclaimers are mostly mesningless. In politics it is a general rule you ignore what people say and pay attention to what they do. That is what counts.
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DMac wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:08 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:32 am An assassination attempt resulting in a bloodied but defiant former President with his fist raised in the air is the worst possible outcome for those who were grossly irresponsible with their words and message.
A writer couldn't have scripted it better, KWT (King Wannabe Trump) will ride this right into the Oval Office. If there was any doubt about whether or not he'd be your next President, there (sadly) isn't anymore. He'll ride this bloodied face, fist raised picture right to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Won't be surprised to see this tough guy war hero (between his ears that's what he'll be...and to his cult members too) wearing a Purple Heart earring on the superficially wounded ear (Holyfield's was worse) the next time we see him. I'm truly sorry the shooter missed the mark.
Teddy Roosevelt was shot in 1912 making a stump speech while running for President. The bullet was stopped by a folded up speech and steel eyeglass case in his breast pocket. The idea at the time was the same as this current situation . T.R. lost the election in a relative landslide to Woodrow Wilson.
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Let us hope history repeats itself in this case (but could you please give us a better alternative to this scumbag, POS of a human being for our Prez).
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How about we all tone it all down?

The MAGA message has been that the country is a "disaster" under Biden, that the country is entirely doomed if he wins again, will be overrun by illegal immigrants, crime explosion, commies in control, etc, etc...despite that clearly not being remotely accurate in the very much present tense. But the rhetoric is very, very hot.

Trump's allies have put forth Project 2025, which is indeed a roadmap to a form of fascism. Trump's lawyers argued that he could order Seal Team 6 to kill his political opponents. SCOTUS appears to have at least in part validated or not refuted this, certainly leaving the question open. Certainly made clear that a President could order his DOJ, IRS, FBI, etc to take actions on his political behalf.

So, we could understand a politically motivated assassination attempt of either candidate.

But that's an awful reality which we haven't seen since the attempt on Reagan, and of course, for those of us old enough to recall, experienced so vividly throughout the 60's. Totally deplorable, yet a reality throughout our nation's history.

However, it's not at all clear that shooters are in any way extensions of any coherent political effort, rather they've often been nuts, little men who sought to be big.

We don't know much yet about this particular shooter and his motivations. His shirt suggests a gun fixation, but time will tell. Reporting this AM is that he's a registered Republican but may have made a small donation to a Dem aligned group in 2021. He was just 150 meters away, so doesn't appear to be an expert sniper given the 'miss' and spray of audience.

The big political violence risk is an escalation to levels we haven't seen since the '60's.

As to the political impact, sure, as we see on here, Trump supporters will exclaim as loudly as they can and as frequently as they can how 'tough' Trump is, how he is a 'martyr' for them, blah, blah, blah. And those who despise him will continue to despise him.

I don't think that, but we'll see if, those few undecided will see him as sympathetic the way the country pulled for Reagan when he was in the hospital having been shot. I don't think I nicked ear is the same as an elected President actually on the brink of death and in the hospital 11 days.

But we'll indeed see the Trump Campaign use this to the max...my own prediction is that will ultimately backfire, but we'll see.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:01 am How about we all tone it all down?

The MAGA message has been that the country is a "disaster" under Biden, that the country is entirely doomed if he wins again, will be overrun by illegal immigrants, crime explosion, commies in control, etc, etc...despite that clearly not being remotely accurate in the very much present tense. But the rhetoric is very, very hot.

Trump's allies have put forth Project 2025, which is indeed a roadmap to a form of fascism. Trump's lawyers argued that he could order Seal Team 6 to kill his political opponents. SCOTUS appears to have at least in part validated or not refuted this, certainly leaving the question open. Certainly made clear that a President could order his DOJ, IRS, FBI, etc to take actions on his political behalf.

So, we could understand a politically motivated assassination attempt of either candidate.

But that's an awful reality which we haven't seen since the attempt on Reagan, and of course, for those of us old enough to recall, experienced so vividly throughout the 60's. Totally deplorable, yet a reality throughout our nation's history.

However, it's not at all clear that shooters are in any way extensions of any coherent political effort, rather they've often been nuts, little men who sought to be big.

We don't know much yet about this particular shooter and his motivations. His shirt suggests a gun fixation, but time will tell. Reporting this AM is that he's a registered Republican but may have made a small donation to a Dem aligned group in 2021. He was just 150 meters away, so doesn't appear to be an expert sniper given the 'miss' and spray of audience.

The big political violence risk is an escalation to levels we haven't seen since the '60's.

As to the political impact, sure, as we see on here, Trump supporters will exclaim as loudly as they can and as frequently as they can how 'tough' Trump is, how he is a 'martyr' for them, blah, blah, blah. And those who despise him will continue to despise him.

I don't think that, but we'll see if, those few undecided will see him as sympathetic the way the country pulled for Reagan when he was in the hospital having been shot. I don't think I nicked ear is the same as an elected President actually on the brink of death and in the hospital 11 days.

But we'll indeed see the Trump Campaign use this to the max...my own prediction is that will ultimately backfire, but we'll see.
The Republicans will use this under that phrase of never let a good crisis go to waste. What has been overlooked so far is a guy sitting in the stands was killed and several others injured. It will all be political from this point on.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:27 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:01 am How about we all tone it all down?

The MAGA message has been that the country is a "disaster" under Biden, that the country is entirely doomed if he wins again, will be overrun by illegal immigrants, crime explosion, commies in control, etc, etc...despite that clearly not being remotely accurate in the very much present tense. But the rhetoric is very, very hot.

Trump's allies have put forth Project 2025, which is indeed a roadmap to a form of fascism. Trump's lawyers argued that he could order Seal Team 6 to kill his political opponents. SCOTUS appears to have at least in part validated or not refuted this, certainly leaving the question open. Certainly made clear that a President could order his DOJ, IRS, FBI, etc to take actions on his political behalf.

So, we could understand a politically motivated assassination attempt of either candidate.

But that's an awful reality which we haven't seen since the attempt on Reagan, and of course, for those of us old enough to recall, experienced so vividly throughout the 60's. Totally deplorable, yet a reality throughout our nation's history.

However, it's not at all clear that shooters are in any way extensions of any coherent political effort, rather they've often been nuts, little men who sought to be big.

We don't know much yet about this particular shooter and his motivations. His shirt suggests a gun fixation, but time will tell. Reporting this AM is that he's a registered Republican but may have made a small donation to a Dem aligned group in 2021. He was just 150 meters away, so doesn't appear to be an expert sniper given the 'miss' and spray of audience.

The big political violence risk is an escalation to levels we haven't seen since the '60's.

As to the political impact, sure, as we see on here, Trump supporters will exclaim as loudly as they can and as frequently as they can how 'tough' Trump is, how he is a 'martyr' for them, blah, blah, blah. And those who despise him will continue to despise him.

I don't think that, but we'll see if, those few undecided will see him as sympathetic the way the country pulled for Reagan when he was in the hospital having been shot. I don't think I nicked ear is the same as an elected President actually on the brink of death and in the hospital 11 days.

But we'll indeed see the Trump Campaign use this to the max...my own prediction is that will ultimately backfire, but we'll see.
The Republicans will use this under that phrase of never let a good crisis go to waste. What has been overlooked so far is a guy sitting in the stands was killed and several others injured. It will all be political from this point on.

That phrase was invented by hyper Democrat partisan James Carville. Democrats have always been more ruthless politically and the GOP used to be their punching bags with softies like the Bushes getting pummeled and being passive. Trump has adopted all and more of the Democrat bare knuckle and effective strategy and it has turned the leftists volcanic. The masks are off and everybody can now see the satanic brand of mental illness and collectivist radicalism running the swamp.
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DMac wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:08 am
I'm truly sorry the shooter missed the mark.
A profoundly ugly comment. Just wow.

You, sir, are a contributing element to that which you condemn with such vitriol and hatred.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 7:44 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:32 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:06 am No doubt this kind of reckless rhetoric will now have to be toned down. Disgusting. An assassination attempt resulting in a bloodied but defiant former President with his fist raised in the air is the worst possible outcome for those who were grossly irresponsible with their words and message. No doubt, more well-deserved and long overdue scrutiny will now be focused on the Biden administration, talking heads in mainstream media and the entire Left.

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1812299410660880501

https://x.com/FiveTimesAugust/status/18 ... 8885839308
And this...

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And of course:

Trump 'more dangerous' than Hitler, Mussolini: McCaskill

Former President Trump is “more dangerous” than some of the most notorious dictators in the history of the world, says former senator:

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4322 ... test=mlite
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President Donald J. Trump—Part ll

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Thanks to Essexfenwick for posting this. So much for the "He was a Republican" nonsense.

FBI Confirms Would-Be Trump Assassin as Thomas Matthew Crooks, Matches Democrat Donor Description Per FEC Data.

UPDATE–SHOOTER NAMED: The shooter was named by the New York Post as Thomas Crooks of Bethel Park, PA in the Pittsburgh Metropolitan area. The National Pulse has found Federal Election Commission (FEC) data matching the name to a location in Bethel Park, which–if the same person–shows the shooter was a donor to the Progressive Turnout Project through ActBlue, a left-wing political fundraising platform. The Progressive Turnout Project helps to elect far-left Democrats to Congress and other offices.



On another note--and this is merely theoretical--but if a person truly believes that Trump will repeat, even in part, what Hitler did, don't they have a kind of moral obligation to try to take him out? A person doesn't need to be a "madman" or even mentally imbalanced--just deeply convinced that they will be doing humanity a service by murdering a future dictator who could probably be responsible for the death of who-knows-how-many innocent lives. That's why the ratcheted up rhetoric by some irresponsible politicians and media members needs to stop. It is exactly what is being espoused by folks like these which inspires people like Thomas Crooks. Shameful. When is enough, enough?
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:03 am On another note--and this is merely theoretical--but if a person truly believes that Trump will repeat, even in part, what Hitler did, don't they have a kind of moral obligation to try to take him out? A person doesn't need to be a "madman" or even mentally imbalanced--just deeply convinced that they will be doing humanity a service by murdering a future dictator who could probably be responsible for the death of who-knows-how-many innocent lives. That's why the ratcheted up rhetoric by some irresponsible politicians and media members needs to stop. It is exactly what is being espoused by folks like these which inspires people like Thomas Crooks. Shameful. When is enough, enough?
+1. 100%.

Takes two parties to tango on toxic rhetoric and it's effect on the minds of those capable of critical thought, reason, perspective, and those with the potential to be swayed and stirred into behaviors of hate and violence which in their minds "make sense" for the "common good". One reason the manifestos of mass public shooters either get printed the day after, or memory holed, depending on desired narrative confirmation or conflict with a desired narrative.
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