2024

[Typical Lax Dad]

It is Jihad Jane's fault that the stock has tanked.

Your chart shows exactly that : ILMN was not a threat to anyone. Moderate growth, until a downturn after Madame Khan overruled her own FTC Judge & commissioners. ILMN lagged the other indices because of the protracted uncertainty (caused by Khan) about the GRAL merger.

Political market interference.

Looks like an underperforming stock throughout the 5 year period reviewed. Lagging since 2018….Willing to pay 7.1 billion for the opportunity to shut down competition for that life raft. That’s what it looks like to me. Go take it up with the EC and stop whining. Nobody told you to hold on as the bottom fell out. Take some personal responsibility and stop blaming other people for your failure not to take advantage of the opportunity to realize some gains. Go read the Illumina annual report. Risk Factors are detailed each and every year like every other publicly traded company. You sound foolish claiming that the “equity” had no risk factors. We all miss opportunities. I missed the opportunity to invest in Nvidia in the late 1990s. Eventually got in but should have done it years earlier. Nvidia has 92% of the Data Center chip market BTW….let’s see if Mohammed Khan wages jihad on the company.

[old salt]

https://www.newsweek.com/dei-racial-slu ... ns-1884034

What a surprise

Everything is racist. Didn't you get the talking point memo ?

Yes. Most hard working black Americans want liberal white women to stay in their lane.

That DEI Jihadist cost you some money too?

...did you notice -- in the video you posted, one of Ichan's knock's on DeSouza was his commitment to DEI & ESG ?

[a fan]

.....the very Monopolies that Old Salt is telling us are soooper-fantastic-what's-the-problem?

You mean the 2 evil non-govt BIG PHARMA companies that developed & brought to market the 2 MRNA vaccines that saved millions of lives, before any socialist or communist country could produce a vaccine that worked ? How'd China's or Russia's vaccine work out ?

Sure do. Where'd they get the money for R&D and production, Old Salt? Never said they were evil. What I said was that that if the American people are going to invest in the R&D for a PharmaCompany, we should get a share of the profits.

You, naturally, completely agree with this idea, because you're not an idiot. It's the basic idea of investment....an idea you claim to understand.

But you have to pretend you don't so you can keep up with the trolling.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.newsweek.com/dei-racial-slu ... ns-1884034

What a surprise

Everything is racist. Didn't you get the talking point memo ?

Yes. Most hard working black Americans want liberal white women to stay in their lane.

That DEI Jihadist cost you some money too?

...did you notice -- in the video you posted, one of Ichan's knock's on DeSouza was his commitment to DEI & ESG ?

Who cares.

[a fan]

https://www.newsweek.com/dei-racial-slu ... ns-1884034

What a surprise

Everything is racist. Didn't you get the talking point memo ?

Yes. Most hard working black Americans want liberal white women to stay in their lane.

That DEI Jihadist cost you some money too?

...did you notice -- in the video you posted, one of Ichan's knock's on DeSouza was his commitment to DEI & ESG ?

More trolling. When you imply he's a racist, Old Salt is going to dig in his heels, and say as many racist things as he can without going too far. He's fumbling around for someone to blame, and as we all know, that means the closest person with a D by their name.

Ignore it. He stopped shooting straight in this thread from the word go. He knows 80% is a monopoly. He just wants it to go back to the good ol' days when they let them happen, because it gets him more money.

And that's fine. But he's wasting everyone's time with the smokescreen that he doesn't know what 80% means. Of course he does.

[old salt]

https://www.newsweek.com/dei-racial-slu ... ns-1884034

What a surprise

Everything is racist. Didn't you get the talking point memo ?

Yes. Most hard working black Americans want liberal white women to stay in their lane.

That DEI Jihadist cost you some money too?

...did you notice -- in the video you posted, one of Ichan's knock's on DeSouza was his commitment to DEI & ESG ?

Who cares.

Apparently you do. You keep bringing DEI up.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.newsweek.com/dei-racial-slu ... ns-1884034

What a surprise

Everything is racist. Didn't you get the talking point memo ?

Yes. Most hard working black Americans want liberal white women to stay in their lane.

That DEI Jihadist cost you some money too?

...did you notice -- in the video you posted, one of Ichan's knock's on DeSouza was his commitment to DEI & ESG ?

Who cares.

Apparently you do. You keep bringing DEI up.

Dude, I respond to you bringing it up.

[old salt]

https://www.newsweek.com/dei-racial-slu ... ns-1884034

What a surprise

Everything is racist. Didn't you get the talking point memo ?

Yes. Most hard working black Americans want liberal white women to stay in their lane.

That DEI Jihadist cost you some money too?

...did you notice -- in the video you posted, one of Ichan's knock's on DeSouza was his commitment to DEI & ESG ?

Who cares.

Apparently you do. You keep bringing DEI up.

Dude, I respond to you bringing it up.

over & over & over...

[old salt]

.....the very Monopolies that Old Salt is telling us are soooper-fantastic-what's-the-problem?

You mean the 2 evil non-govt BIG PHARMA companies that developed & brought to market the 2 MRNA vaccines that saved millions of lives, before any socialist or communist country could produce a vaccine that worked ? How'd China's or Russia's vaccine work out ?

Sure do. Where'd they get the money for R&D and production, Old Salt? Never said they were evil. What I said was that that if the American people are going to invest in the R&D for a PharmaCompany, we should get a share of the profits.

You, naturally, completely agree with this idea, because you're not an idiot. It's the basic idea of investment....an idea you claim to understand.

But you have to pretend you don't so you can keep up with the trolling.

Production is not development or approval. You make it sound like it was all govt funded & developed.

Moderna had already partnered with NIH on anti-aids MRNA vacs. BOINTECH-Pziser partnered with the EC.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.newsweek.com/dei-racial-slu ... ns-1884034

What a surprise

Everything is racist. Didn't you get the talking point memo ?

Yes. Most hard working black Americans want liberal white women to stay in their lane.

That DEI Jihadist cost you some money too?

...did you notice -- in the video you posted, one of Ichan's knock's on DeSouza was his commitment to DEI & ESG ?

Who cares.

Apparently you do. You keep bringing DEI up.

Dude, I respond to you bringing it up.

over & over & over...

Because you bring it up time and time again. Jihadist Khan didn’t cost you any money. YOU didn’t take the opportunity to realize some gains. What do you think other people were doing as the stock was tanking? Buying more or holding on?

[old salt]

https://www.newsweek.com/dei-racial-slu ... ns-1884034

What a surprise

Everything is racist. Didn't you get the talking point memo ?

Yes. Most hard working black Americans want liberal white women to stay in their lane.

That DEI Jihadist cost you some money too?

...did you notice -- in the video you posted, one of Ichan's knock's on DeSouza was his commitment to DEI & ESG ?

Who cares.

Apparently you do. You keep bringing DEI up.

Dude, I respond to you bringing it up.

over & over & over...

Because you bring it up time and time again. Jihadist Khan didn’t cost you any money. YOU didn’t take the opportunity to realize some gains. What do you think other people were doing as the stock was tanking? Buying more or holding on?

I referenced DEI once. You kept bringing it up after that, to which I responded.

ILMN is still a big gain for me & not worth paying the cap gains now because it still holds 80% market share & it holds 14.5% of GRAL.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.newsweek.com/dei-racial-slu ... ns-1884034

What a surprise

Everything is racist. Didn't you get the talking point memo ?

Yes. Most hard working black Americans want liberal white women to stay in their lane.

That DEI Jihadist cost you some money too?

...did you notice -- in the video you posted, one of Ichan's knock's on DeSouza was his commitment to DEI & ESG ?

Who cares.

Apparently you do. You keep bringing DEI up.

Dude, I respond to you bringing it up.

over & over & over...

Because you bring it up time and time again. Jihadist Khan didn’t cost you any money. YOU didn’t take the opportunity to realize some gains. What do you think other people were doing as the stock was tanking? Buying more or holding on?

I referenced DEI once. You kept bringing it up after that, to which I responded.

ILMN is still a big gain for me & not worth paying the cap gains now because it still holds 80% market share & it holds 14.5% of GRAL.

https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/C ... 872990.pdf

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.axios.com/2023/11/27/dei-af ... reme-court

DEI backlash hits corporate America

by Emily Peck

U.S. companies' diversity, equity and inclusion efforts are losing momentum this year after the Supreme Court's June affirmative action ruling, per a consulting firm's new report.

Why it matters: The slowdown is a reversal from the explosion in corporate DEI after George Floyd's killing pushed companies to act to address racial inequality.

"2023 has undeniably shifted the DEI landscape for years to come," write the authors of a report out Monday from DEI consulting firm Paradigm.
"External forces are no longer pushing companies to invest in DEI; instead, in some cases, external forces are pushing back on companies' investment in DEI."

Catch up fast: In June the Supreme Court struck down affirmative action in colleges — ruling that schools can't explicitly consider race in the admissions process.

Since then, the group that brought that case — American Alliance for Equal Rights — sued two law firms, challenging minority fellowships that were open only to students of color, those who identify as LGBTQ+, or those who have disabilities.
The Alliance argued the fellowships discriminated against other groups — like white people, straight people, or those who do not have disabilities.
The group also sued a venture capital fund, the Fearless Fund, for investing solely in Black women. (The case is working its way through the courts.)
In response, this fall, the law firms revised the programs, broadening their criteria to all law students at a certain stage of school. The suits were dropped.

Another major law firm — which had not been sued — proactively changed its fellowship.
The fellowships were meant to bring more minority law students into firms’ hiring pipelines, as Big Law is among the least diverse professions.
Meanwhile: In a letter this summer, 13 Republican state attorneys general urged Fortune 100 companies to take another look at their DEI programs in the wake of the court's decision.

The letter takes aim at "explicit racial quotas in hiring, recruiting retention, promotion and advancement."
Between the lines: The lawsuits and letters "will have significant downstream consequences for DEI for years to come," per the Paradigm report.

Paradigm also says that companies have de-prioritized DEI as the hiring frenzy of the past few years has slowed.
Zoom out: The DEI backlash comes on the heels of another related acronym freakout, over corporate ESG.

Both terms have become increasingly politicized and weaponized.
But corporate DEI is essentially the practice of making sure employers are treating workers fairly, said Joelle Emerson, Paradigm CEO. It's about "fair outcomes" in hiring and promotion, she said. Its meaning gets twisted in the discourse, she added.

Zoom in: For its report, Paradigm looked at anonymized data from 148 clients — about a third were in tech, and about a quarter were large firms with 1,000-10,000 employees. The firm also relied on insights and conversations with other clients.

Those in the study were motivated companies already working with a DEI consultant, but the report was a mixed bag. Companies cut spending on DEI budgets from the previous year, and fewer firms had a DEI strategy.
On the flip side, more firms had hired a senior DEI leader — and about 40% of firms track race/ethnicity representation.

Reality check: A backlash is rising, possibly because the DEI efforts made in 2020 had a real impact.

94% of the headcount increase at large firms in 2021, from the previous year, stemmed from hiring people of color, according to a Bloomberg analysis of 88 S&P 100 firms.
Many companies, for their part, still say they're committed to diversity, equity and inclusion.

[a fan]

.....the very Monopolies that Old Salt is telling us are soooper-fantastic-what's-the-problem?

You mean the 2 evil non-govt BIG PHARMA companies that developed & brought to market the 2 MRNA vaccines that saved millions of lives, before any socialist or communist country could produce a vaccine that worked ? How'd China's or Russia's vaccine work out ?

Sure do. Where'd they get the money for R&D and production, Old Salt? Never said they were evil. What I said was that that if the American people are going to invest in the R&D for a PharmaCompany, we should get a share of the profits.

You, naturally, completely agree with this idea, because you're not an idiot. It's the basic idea of investment....an idea you claim to understand.

But you have to pretend you don't so you can keep up with the trolling.

Production is not development or approval. You make it sound like it was all govt funded & developed.

It was. 100%. And we bought the vials, too. Even bought some to ship overseas.

Moderna had already partnered with NIH on anti-aids MRNA vacs. BOINTECH-Pziser partnered with the EC.

That's right. NIH....taxpayer funded. Did we profit share? Nope, and you know why: the 1%ers have Congress in their pocket.

We should be getting a fair return for our R&D investment. I know you agree. And that's all I'm claiming, nothing more.

[Typical Lax Dad]

So the USS Boxer, 10 days into a deployment after an extensive overhaul has to return to port because the ship is still having issues. What the hell is wrong with the US Navy? They can't fix their ships and are decommissioning ships that are 10 years old. If the folks in DC that love to investigate incompetence at this level have some spare time why don't they bring in the Secretary of the Navy answer a few questions.

,,,but their DEI & climate commitment are first rate.

[Typical Lax Dad]

.....the very Monopolies that Old Salt is telling us are soooper-fantastic-what's-the-problem?

You mean the 2 evil non-govt BIG PHARMA companies that developed & brought to market the 2 MRNA vaccines that saved millions of lives, before any socialist or communist country could produce a vaccine that worked ? How'd China's or Russia's vaccine work out ?

Sure do. Where'd they get the money for R&D and production, Old Salt? Never said they were evil. What I said was that that if the American people are going to invest in the R&D for a PharmaCompany, we should get a share of the profits.

You, naturally, completely agree with this idea, because you're not an idiot. It's the basic idea of investment....an idea you claim to understand.

But you have to pretend you don't so you can keep up with the trolling.

Production is not development or approval. You make it sound like it was all govt funded & developed.

It was. 100%. And we bought the vials, too. Even bought some to ship overseas.

Moderna had already partnered with NIH on anti-aids MRNA vacs. BOINTECH-Pziser partnered with the EC.

That's right. NIH....taxpayer funded. Did we profit share? Nope, and you know why: the 1%ers have Congress in their pocket.

We should be getting a fair return for our R&D investment. I know you agree. And that's all I'm claiming, nothing more.

Private Equity gets a 20% carried interest and long term capital gains tax at 15%. The US Government invest cash equity and gets no return outside of taxes on jobs created and corporate taxes if not shielded by depreciation/amortization.

[old salt]

So the USS Boxer, 10 days into a deployment after an extensive overhaul has to return to port because the ship is still having issues. What the hell is wrong with the US Navy? They can't fix their ships and are decommissioning ships that are 10 years old. If the folks in DC that love to investigate incompetence at this level have some spare time why don't they bring in the Secretary of the Navy answer a few questions.

,,,but their DEI & climate commitment are first rate.

That's DoD & DoN. They're doing great too, with their new priorities. They gave a real boost to recruiting & readiness.

[Typical Lax Dad]

So the USS Boxer, 10 days into a deployment after an extensive overhaul has to return to port because the ship is still having issues. What the hell is wrong with the US Navy? They can't fix their ships and are decommissioning ships that are 10 years old. If the folks in DC that love to investigate incompetence at this level have some spare time why don't they bring in the Secretary of the Navy answer a few questions.

,,,but their DEI & climate commitment are first rate.

That's DoD & DoN. They're doing great too, with their new priorities. They gave a real boost to recruiting & readiness.

Un huh.

[old salt]

ILMN is still a big gain for me & not worth paying the cap gains now because it still holds 80% market share & it holds 14.5% of GRAL.

https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/C ... 872990.pdf

ILMN is still solid. Now that the GRAL issue is resolved, it will recover.
Even Ichan held on, didn't sell, & is not mounting another proxy fight. He said he's looking forward to their recovery under the new CEO...& he bought in much later, at a much higher price than I did.
Most rating services still rate ILMN as a "hold".

https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 024-03-12/
Illumina has said that it will jettison Grail by divesting it or spinning it off as a separate publicly listed company. The deal has taken a heavy toll on Illumina, whose business is otherwise lucrative thanks to its ubiquitous DNA sequencing machines.

[Typical Lax Dad]

ILMN is still a big gain for me & not worth paying the cap gains now because it still holds 80% market share & it holds 14.5% of GRAL.

https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/C ... 872990.pdf

ILMN is still solid. Now that the GRAL issue is resolved, it will recover.
Even Ichan held on, didn't sell, & is not mounting another proxy fight. He said he's looking forward to their recovery under the new CEO...& he bought in much later, at a much higher price than I did.
Most rating services still rate ILMN as a "hold".

https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 024-03-12/
Illumina has said that it will jettison Grail by divesting it or spinning it off as a separate publicly listed company. The deal has taken a heavy toll on Illumina, whose business is otherwise lucrative thanks to its ubiquitous DNA sequencing machines.

So stop whining