American Educational System

[youthathletics]

Wasn't sure where to put this....Don't hate the playa', hate the game': https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1807803713316130820

[Typical Lax Dad]

I highly recommend to anyone here that is interested to go for it and to spread the word to all friends and family. This should go hand in hand with discouraging any and everyone that you know not to consider any “elite” college or “elite” university when it’s time to apply to colleges….particularly any Ivy League or NESCAC School or places like Stanford, Wash. U or Swarthmore. Please spread the word.

[JoeMauer89]

I highly recommend to anyone here that is interested to go for it and to spread the word to all friends and family. This should go hand in hand with discouraging any and everyone that you know not to consider any “elite” college or “elite” university when it’s time to apply to colleges….particularly any Ivy League or NESCAC School or places like Stanford, Wash. U or Swarthmore. Please spread the word.

Why do you constantly push for this? At first, I thought you were joking and still have to think you are. Unless you are just pulling a George Costanza and telling people not to apply so that they actually encourage their kids to do so. Just not sure why you keep telling posters to discourage friends and family to apply to academically elite universities. Never know with your sarcasm.

Joe

[Typical Lax Dad]

I highly recommend to anyone here that is interested to go for it and to spread the word to all friends and family. This should go hand in hand with discouraging any and everyone that you know not to consider any “elite” college or “elite” university when it’s time to apply to colleges….particularly any Ivy League or NESCAC School or places like Stanford, Wash. U or Swarthmore. Please spread the word.

Why do you constantly push for this? At first, I thought you were joking and still have to think you are. Unless you are just pulling a George Costanza and telling people not to apply so that they actually encourage their kids to do so. Just not sure why you keep telling posters to discourage friends and family to apply to academically elite universities. Never know with your sarcasm.

Joe

Just supporting the folks that are down on these liberal elite colleges and the need to go to college. There is more support for it.

[NattyBohChamps04]

RURAL REPUBLICANS ARE FIGHTING TO SAVE THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOLS

Many state legislators see voucher programs as a threat to the anchors of their communities.

It's amazing what people actually value vs. what social media/talking heads say they're supposed to value. The average American voice has gotten drowned out by $$$.

[jhu72]

RURAL REPUBLICANS ARE FIGHTING TO SAVE THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOLS

Many state legislators see voucher programs as a threat to the anchors of their communities.

It's amazing what people actually value vs. what social media/talking heads say they're supposed to value. The average American voice has gotten drowned out by $$$.

... and the liberals / democrats in government are supporting them.

[RedFromMI]

RURAL REPUBLICANS ARE FIGHTING TO SAVE THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOLS

Many state legislators see voucher programs as a threat to the anchors of their communities.

It's amazing what people actually value vs. what social media/talking heads say they're supposed to value. The average American voice has gotten drowned out by $$$.

... and the liberals / democrats in government are supporting them.

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.

[Typical Lax Dad]

RURAL REPUBLICANS ARE FIGHTING TO SAVE THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOLS

Many state legislators see voucher programs as a threat to the anchors of their communities.

It's amazing what people actually value vs. what social media/talking heads say they're supposed to value. The average American voice has gotten drowned out by $$$.

... and the liberals / democrats in government are supporting them.

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.

Trickle up economics

[youthathletics]

Nice job by Columbia educators : https://apnews.com/article/columbia-uni ... fe202f305b

[a fan]

Nice job by Columbia educators : https://apnews.com/article/columbia-uni ... fe202f305b

Seems that America is on it, as I keep saying. If these allegations are true? Good riddance. Folks aren't putting up with this stuff.

[KI Dock Bar]

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.
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Vouchers are the opportunity for children from low income areas to attend charter schools that provide a more structured education than their public school which is typically in an urban area, no?

[PizzaSnake]

RURAL REPUBLICANS ARE FIGHTING TO SAVE THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOLS

Many state legislators see voucher programs as a threat to the anchors of their communities.

It's amazing what people actually value vs. what social media/talking heads say they're supposed to value. The average American voice has gotten drowned out by $$$.

... and the liberals / democrats in government are supporting them.

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.

Trickle up economics

You mean to say, “psis down my leg and tell me it’s raining”?

[Typical Lax Dad]

RURAL REPUBLICANS ARE FIGHTING TO SAVE THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOLS

Many state legislators see voucher programs as a threat to the anchors of their communities.

It's amazing what people actually value vs. what social media/talking heads say they're supposed to value. The average American voice has gotten drowned out by $$$.

... and the liberals / democrats in government are supporting them.

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.

Trickle up economics

You mean to say, “psis down my leg and tell me it’s raining”?

Yep.

[KI Dock Bar]

Unfortunately I am not following this.

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.

Please provide some basis for this, RedFromMI.

[a fan]

Unfortunately I am not following this.

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.

Please provide some basis for this, RedFromMI.

It's just math....if taxpayer dollars go to a Church for students, that means those same dollars aren't going to public schools.

So the Church schools get pumped full of money, and the public schools have less. No citation needed. Just math.

This is what Church's want, obviously: kill any competition, and get rich by doing it.

[MDlaxfan76]

Unfortunately I am not following this.

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.

Please provide some basis for this, RedFromMI.

Logic?

[KI Dock Bar]

Unfortunately I am not following this.

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.

Please provide some basis for this, RedFromMI.

It's just math....if taxpayer dollars go to a Church for students, that means those same dollars aren't going to public schools.

So the Church schools get pumped full of money, and the public schools have less. No citation needed. Just math.

This is what Church's want, obviously: kill any competition, and get rich by doing it.

We must be talking about two different educational settings. I am a big fan of charter schools that are based in low socio-economic areas, like New York City that provide an opportunity for students to get a valued education. Vouchers for religious schools are a different story.

[MDlaxfan76]

Unfortunately I am not following this.

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.

Please provide some basis for this, RedFromMI.

It's just math....if taxpayer dollars go to a Church for students, that means those same dollars aren't going to public schools.

So the Church schools get pumped full of money, and the public schools have less. No citation needed. Just math.

This is what Church's want, obviously: kill any competition, and get rich by doing it.

Yes
Of course, Red's right about the ideology too.

Ki Dock...what you are saying is what most of us wished the voucher effort means. Unfortunately, it's been perverted.

Now, if we were willing to heavily fund public schools, especially those serving tough neighborhoods, AND provide vouchers then we'd at least be having a reasonable discussion. But this is robbing Peter to pay Paul and the movement people know exactly what they're doing and why.

[MDlaxfan76]

Unfortunately I am not following this.

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.

Please provide some basis for this, RedFromMI.

It's just math....if taxpayer dollars go to a Church for students, that means those same dollars aren't going to public schools.

So the Church schools get pumped full of money, and the public schools have less. No citation needed. Just math.

This is what Church's want, obviously: kill any competition, and get rich by doing it.

We must be talking about two different educational settings. I am a big fan of charter schools that are based in low socio-economic areas, like New York City that provide an opportunity for students to get a valued education. Vouchers for religious schools are a different story.

Charter isn't voucher, if they are public charter.

And yes, vouchers is a whole different thing, especially the religious "private" schools...with tax breaks because they are religious on top.

Unfortunately, there's been very little improvement in outcomes shown by private charters as well, when holding constant for other factors. They can provide a safer, better environment for a few, but the impact is quite negative for others too.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Unfortunately I am not following this.

Vouchers are nothing more than a redirection of tax money into churches who run schools, and have the intended effect of killing the public school system as those behind it want education privatized (better to make money from it) and into religious hands as much as possible to allow the bending of education from truth and science to junk education that tells their students lies about the nature of the world.

Please provide some basis for this, RedFromMI.

It's just math....if taxpayer dollars go to a Church for students, that means those same dollars aren't going to public schools.

So the Church schools get pumped full of money, and the public schools have less. No citation needed. Just math.

This is what Church's want, obviously: kill any competition, and get rich by doing it.

Less money to support the same infrastructure until a decision is made to close a school because kids can return to the district. Public Schools can’t “right size” over a moderate time horizon because by law they have to have the capacity to educate a district. Can’t take a goodwill impairment charge either. Public schools are like that fish in a fish tank in which predators continent to take small bites put of the fish and it continues to swim around until 50% of the body is gone and the fish collapses. It’s part of the plan. Continue to skim until the very bottom of society in these communities is all that is left. Move the jobs, move the “good” schools….take away resources….watch the habitat collapse.