Johns Hopkins 2025

[OCanada]

Tierney was praised consistently (I think by you) on the old forum

Not me - he was a good OC - the '03 team was as good an offense as Hopkins has had - too bad they ran into T. Johnson. As a head coach ask the Hofstra people after 17 years. He was Hopkins' OC from '01 through '06. Here's the secret - you want names - I'll give you names:
Bobby Benson
Kyle Barrie
Peter LeSueur
Connor Ford
Kevin Boland
Adam Donegar
Joe McDermott
Kyle Harrison
Paul Rabil - 2 Years
Kevin Huntley - 2 Years
Greg Peyser
Stephen Peyser - 2 Years
Matt Rewkowski - 2 Years
Jake Byrne

They didn't have that ranking system explicitly back then but almost every single name on that list was a 5 star caliber.
It's the Jimmies and Joes not the X's and O's

Oh and back then they won about 60% of face-offs so they had the ball all the time.

They also ran into a biblical rain. The field was an ankle deep quagmire played on aan NFl field. It was raining so hard the field could not drain fast enough.

Peyser brothers mom wanted them at Princeton. Bill did not want yo have to deal with their dad. Third brother did end up at Princeton.

With little time on the clock in the 2005 title game. I mean seconds they ar talking about how to approach the FO. Peyser demands to take the FO promising to win it. He does and Hopkins ties the game w 1? second left. I think my memory is correct here.

[DocBarrister]

Tierney was praised consistently (I think by you) on the old forum

Not me - he was a good OC - the '03 team was as good an offense as Hopkins has had - too bad they ran into T. Johnson. As a head coach ask the Hofstra people after 17 years. He was Hopkins' OC from '01 through '06. Here's the secret - you want names - I'll give you names:
Bobby Benson
Kyle Barrie
Peter LeSueur
Connor Ford
Kevin Boland
Adam Donegar
Joe McDermott
Kyle Harrison
Paul Rabil - 2 Years
Kevin Huntley - 2 Years
Greg Peyser
Stephen Peyser - 2 Years
Matt Rewkowski - 2 Years
Jake Byrne

They didn't have that ranking system explicitly back then but almost every single name on that list was a 5 star caliber.
It's the Jimmies and Joes not the X's and O's

Oh and back then they won about 60% of face-offs so they had the ball all the time.

They also ran into a biblical rain. The field was an ankle deep quagmire played on aan NFl field. It was raining so hard the field could not drain fast enough.

Peyser brothers mom wanted them at Princeton. Bill did not want yo have to deal with their dad. Third brother did end up at Princeton.

With little time on the clock in the 2005 title game. I mean seconds they ar talking about how to approach the FO. Peyser demands to take the FO promising to win it. He does and Hopkins ties the game w 1? second left. I think my memory is correct here.

That was the 2005 semifinals against Virginia. About 12 seconds left in the game. Cavaliers up by a goal. Greg Peyser took the FO, picked up the groundball on the third try. Ran down the field with a Cavalier in hot pursuit. Crossfield pass to Jake Byrne, who scores with about a second left.

Arguably the single greatest play in Johns Hopkins lacrosse history.

DocBarrister

[51percentcorn]

Yes - it was very unfortunate that the 2003 title game had to be played in those conditions. To my recollection it was the DII and DIII title games on Sunday that resulted in the absolutely horrid field state on Monday where - for those who weren't there (it's on you tube) they trucked a ton of manure/kitty litter/dryting compound/whatever and it was a mess. It was not the reason Hopkins lost the game however. They had played earlier in the year at Homewood - under perfect conditions at night - and Hopkins won 8-7 and ironically Scherr outplayed Johnson that evening. But both teams had to play under those conditions - Hopkins scored 15 goals in 120 minutes against UVA and Hopkins was averaging well over 14 goals a game that year.

As far as the 2005 title game - since this all started with a not well thought out analysis of coordinators - the ironic thing about that game it that by almost any measure (and of course Duke's defense had something to do with it) the offense by JHU was meh at best. 9 goals - 29% shot percentage - 7 of the 9 goals unassisted and they were as unassisted as goals can get - 2 alley dodges by Harry (the left handed one is shown in the We Want More Vodcast intros) - 2 alley dodges by Rabil - 2 takes by Greg Peyser (one a 12-15 yard laser after Harry broke his stick) and Byrne's eventual game winner early in the 4th was a rather unique spin and left handed shot that surprised the goalie. Only Huntley's 2 goals were assisted - those on fast breaks. Defense and a goalie en fuego can get alot done. While 20-25 yard alley dodges are set plays - and they worked - Hopkins did not score a single set
goal off a designed offensive play where a slide was drawn - a pick was set - anything.

[PotomacRiver]

They also ran into a biblical rain. The field was an ankle deep quagmire played on aan NFl field. It was raining so hard the field could not drain fast enough.

Peyser brothers mom wanted them at Princeton. Bill did not want yo have to deal with their dad. Third brother did end up at Princeton.

With little time on the clock in the 2005 title game. I mean seconds they ar talking about how to approach the FO. Peyser demands to take the FO promising to win it. He does and Hopkins ties the game w 1? second left. I think my memory is correct here.

All three Peyser brothers played at Hopkins, great players/family. 2003 title game Tillman Johnson stood on his head and the other big part was Jack deVilliers being of the few to out-duel Harrison at FOs.

[51percentcorn]

Good call Potomac - Chris Peyser - who played at Princeton was not a sibling of Michael/Gregory/Stephen. Chris Peyser played at Manhasset High School while the bros played at Cold Spring Harbor

[78Jay]

OCanada may be thinking about the Donegers. One went to Princeton and Adam and Mike came to the Hop.

[OCanada]

OCanada may be thinking about the Donegers. One went to Princeton and Adam and Mike came to the Hop.

Must be that. Thx

[norcalhop]

https://hopkinssports.com/news/2024/7/2 ... onors.aspx

Patrick Deans is very impressive majoring in Mech E with that GPA (even with grade inflation). Would not shock me if he ends up at Stanford or MIT for Mech E grad school.

[PotomacRiver]

https://hopkinssports.com/news/2024/7/2 ... onors.aspx

Patrick Deans is very impressive majoring in Mech E with that GPA (even with grade inflation). Would not shock me if he ends up at Stanford or MIT for Mech E grad school.

Extremely impressive. Even aside from Deans, the number of players on the team with >3.7GPAs is something to be proud of. I'm sure there is grade inflation compared to the past, but it's not easy balancing the difficult practice schedule with classwork. When I was in school in mid/late 2000s I believe the highest GPA on the team was around 3.7, which was only one or two guys, and before that obviously Chris Watson was an outstanding student.

[norcalhop]

https://hopkinssports.com/news/2024/7/2 ... onors.aspx

Patrick Deans is very impressive majoring in Mech E with that GPA (even with grade inflation). Would not shock me if he ends up at Stanford or MIT for Mech E grad school.

Extremely impressive. Even aside from Deans, the number of players on the team with >3.7GPAs is something to be proud of. I'm sure there is grade inflation compared to the past, but it's not easy balancing the difficult practice schedule with classwork. When I was in school in mid/late 2000s I believe the highest GPA on the team was around 3.7, which was only one or two guys, and before that obviously Chris Watson was an outstanding student.

Yes, when I was around, the average GPA was like a 3.2. It's closer to a 3.8 now. Back in the day, if you got a 3.7 and decent GREs, you were an auto admit to Stanford and MIT grad school with fellowship due to the professor connections.

[PotomacRiver]

Yes, when I was around, the average GPA was like a 3.2. It's closer to a 3.8 now. Back in the day, if you got a 3.7 and decent GREs, you were an auto admit to Stanford and MIT grad school with fellowship due to the professor connections.

Average GPA is 3.8??? Yikes, where is that number coming from?

[jhu06]

IL reports Koleton Marquis is headed to Albany. I'm excited to see what he can do there and I'm glad he didn't end up at a traditionally hop schedule program. The zinn/schellenberger/murphy thing was not pleasant for me the last few years.

Zinn btw was another stellar student from what I remember.

This is another Hop lax guy already on his way to going big big time places.
https://www.ndia.org/events/2021/4/14/n ... ndrew-cote

https://hub.jhu.edu/2022/11/11/hopkins- ... sh-center/

[pcowlax]

Yes, when I was around, the average GPA was like a 3.2. It's closer to a 3.8 now. Back in the day, if you got a 3.7 and decent GREs, you were an auto admit to Stanford and MIT grad school with fellowship due to the professor connections.

Average GPA is 3.8??? Yikes, where is that number coming from?

Not sure about Hopkins but at several of the Ivy’s where I have seen the data it is around that, 3.7 or so. Not trying to throw any shade at anyone, and I absolutely hate that it is this way now, but a 3.8 is basically average grades at many schools now. Ironically, it is often hard to get top grades at less prestigious schools than at top ones.

[10stone5]

IL reports Koleton Marquis is headed to Albany. I'm excited to see what he can do there and I'm glad he didn't end up at a traditionally hop schedule program. The zinn/schellenberger/murphy thing was not pleasant for me the last few years.

Zinn btw was another stellar student from what I remember.

This is another Hop lax guy already on his way to going big big time places.
https://www.ndia.org/events/2021/4/14/n ... ndrew-cote

https://hub.jhu.edu/2022/11/11/hopkins- ... sh-center/

https://www.olympedia.org/athletes/20437

[44WeWantMore]

Yes, when I was around, the average GPA was like a 3.2. It's closer to a 3.8 now. Back in the day, if you got a 3.7 and decent GREs, you were an auto admit to Stanford and MIT grad school with fellowship due to the professor connections.

Average GPA is 3.8??? Yikes, where is that number coming from?

Not sure about Hopkins but at several of the Ivy’s where I have seen the data it is around that, 3.7 or so. Not trying to throw any shade at anyone, and I absolutely hate that it is this way now, but a 3.8 is basically average grades at many schools now. Ironically, it is often hard to get top grades at less prestigious schools than at top ones.

Nor sure about JHU, but at some universities with separate engineering schools, there are two different curves.

[MDlaxfan76]

Yes, when I was around, the average GPA was like a 3.2. It's closer to a 3.8 now. Back in the day, if you got a 3.7 and decent GREs, you were an auto admit to Stanford and MIT grad school with fellowship due to the professor connections.

Average GPA is 3.8??? Yikes, where is that number coming from?

Not sure about Hopkins but at several of the Ivy’s where I have seen the data it is around that, 3.7 or so. Not trying to throw any shade at anyone, and I absolutely hate that it is this way now, but a 3.8 is basically average grades at many schools now. Ironically, it is often hard to get top grades at less prestigious schools than at top ones.

Myths are hard to dispel, but the average Ivy GPA is 3.5- 3.6

That's indeed up from yesteryear, but nothing like 3.7 except at Brown where they have a lot of pass fail classes and design your own major.

https://ripplematch.com/insights/the-av ... y-64f7f55d

You may be thinking of what it takes out of HS to get into an Ivy? Unweighted GPA to get in most is a 3.7. Weighted is much higher.

[44WeWantMore]

By the time Harvard moved to abolish the Dean’s List, 92 percent of students qualified.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022 ... inflation/

But, I would take their curve with a grain of salt, as

these numbers are estimated from Crimson surveys that represent only a part of the student body, combined with third-party analyses of Harvard records, so try to focus on the long-term trend rather than specific GPA averages at any point in time.

[molo]

Grade inflation is no doubt real, but when you look at the grades and SAT scores needed to get into schools like Hopkins and the Ivies, most of the students admitted should be able to get As in their college classes. Unless you favor a cap on As, undergraduate grades at these school should average around 3.5 or higher. There are always, of course, going to be exceptions. I was a prime example, but even a f***up figured it out in time for grad school, largely thanks to standardized tests.
Anyway, if these guys—at least a few of whom may not have projected as the strongest academic stars at their colleges—are earning mostly As with the occasional B, they deserve congratulations.

[norcalhop]

Yes, when I was around, the average GPA was like a 3.2. It's closer to a 3.8 now. Back in the day, if you got a 3.7 and decent GREs, you were an auto admit to Stanford and MIT grad school with fellowship due to the professor connections.

Average GPA is 3.8??? Yikes, where is that number coming from?

Not sure about Hopkins but at several of the Ivy’s where I have seen the data it is around that, 3.7 or so. Not trying to throw any shade at anyone, and I absolutely hate that it is this way now, but a 3.8 is basically average grades at many schools now. Ironically, it is often hard to get top grades at less prestigious schools than at top ones.

Myths are hard to dispel, but the average Ivy GPA is 3.5- 3.6

That's indeed up from yesteryear, but nothing like 3.7 except at Brown where they have a lot of pass fail classes and design your own major.

https://ripplematch.com/insights/the-av ... y-64f7f55d

You may be thinking of what it takes out of HS to get into an Ivy? Unweighted GPA to get in most is a 3.7. Weighted is much higher.

There's no misconception and that data is from 2019. GPAs have gone up a bit since covid. Ivies are notorious for grade inflation.

Yale, Harvard, Dartmouth, Brown are all 3.7+ now.

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2023/11/ ... y-subject/

https://students.dartmouth.edu/greek-li ... ty-council
https://students.dartmouth.edu/greek-li ... ty-council

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022 ... inflation/

https://www.browndailyherald.com/articl ... data-shows

Princeton is still semi-reasonable at 3.56: https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/artic ... 0of%203.46.

[51percentcorn]

Well - I didn't have GPA's and grade inflation on my JHU '25 summer bingo card. I ntoiced on youtube more players are starting to post senior year highlights - ran across McCleary's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXGVDqkVj5E&t=134s