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youthathletics wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 5:04 pm Maybe they can persuade RFK to run as a dem.
Don't need to. Vote Trump, and you'll get lib policies, and double the size of government again.

..and watch MORE money get shoveled to the libs in big cities.

You want that again, YA? Works for me, my man! I''m clearing the desk for my tax breaks!

How'd the working class handled the inflation from Trump's last spending spree, YA? You seem to think they're ready for another one.

Okay. Who wants to take my wagers on how much bigger Trump will make the Federal Government, while the nation's Republicans pretend that they don't notice he's doing that?
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:22 pm "If the build up to the upcoming November elections and last night’s debate has shown us anything, it’s that it now makes sense why so many Democrats are such Jew hating Hamas-supporting fascists… They literally use the same kinds of gaslighting and propaganda as Hamas do, and use the same media to spread it across the globe to make any criticism of their policies, practices and rhetoric either Islamophobia, right wing, white supremacy or just blame it on the Jews.

It really makes you wonder who is actually in charge. One thing for sure… it ain’t the President."

https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1806726611598786799
Just saw a response from Cheryl to someone who went after her. She knows her stuff and is not to be messed with. Modern day Israeli hero.

So--the snotty response to the original tweet by one Howard R. Gold:

"Thanks for your incoherent commentary on the US election. I'm sure you want TRUMP to win. But maybe someone who probably voted for the Netanyahu-Smotrich-Ben Gvir govt, which has been catastrophic for Israel, should show a little more humility."

And Cheryl's blow doors response:

"Thanks for your ignorant and ill-educated commentary about me. I’m an Israeli and an American citizen, and I didn’t vote in the last Israeli elections but I did vote in the last US elections because I was living there at the time. Based on everything I’ve seen and know with my own eyes and my own mind, I do want Trump to win. I won’t apologize for it nor do I owe you or anyone else an explanation. I’m also not a fan of Ben Gvir and Smotrich personally. I am a fan of Israel. Period. And I understand the history in its entirety more than you ever could or would. I understand the complexity of what’s going on here and in the US. I understand just how bad Biden has been and is. I make my own mind up. I’m not a socialist or woke freak. And again, I will not apologize for it."

https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1806991610103599439
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youthathletics wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 5:04 pm Maybe they can persuade RFK to run as a dem.
Not likely, there are cases of the clap that are more popular among Democrats than RFK. Too bad his uncle Teddy has assumed room temperature. Teddy might have been able to give him some sage advice on the rare occasion when he was not chitfaced. If Teddy was the lion of the Senate then RFK is the kitty cat of Kennedy clan. What is really sad is the fact that in some peoples minds RFK Jr is potentially a viable 3rd party option. What a world..what a world... :roll: :roll:
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From the WSJ for the benefit of non-subscribers. It's getting a lot of attention.
Biden's already lost the NYT & WP.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/ ... s-6d753921

The World Saw Biden Deteriorating. Democrats Ignored the Warnings.

European officials expressed worries about Biden’s focus and stamina before Thursday’s debate

by Annie Linskey, Laurence Norman, June 28, 2024

The loudest public alarm about Joe Biden’s mental acuity came in February with the release of special counsel Robert Hur’s report, a document he produced after spending five hours interviewing the president that revealed Biden displayed significant memory problems.

Democrats worried. Then most of them followed the president’s lead and dismissed it as partisan hackery. Biden’s closest advisers defiantly beat back suggestions that the 81-year-old president showed signs of decline.

Minutes into Thursday night’s presidential debate, the concerns began gushing into the open.

Yet they had already become increasingly apparent in Washington’s corridors of power and across the world for months. In interviews, top officials abroad and Democrats said they have witnessed other moments when Biden’s behavior concerned them. Some were quickly relieved when Biden appeared to regain his footing. Others were left shaken by the experiences.

European officials had already been expressing worries in private about Biden’s focus and stamina before Thursday’s debate, with some senior diplomats saying they had tracked a noticeable deterioration in the president’s faculties in meetings since last summer. There were real doubts about how Biden could successfully manage a second term, but one senior European diplomat said U.S. administration officials in private discussions denied there was any problem.

The White House disputed the characterization that Biden has stumbled on the world stage. “Foreign leaders see Joe Biden up close and personal,” said National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson. “They know who they are dealing with, how effective he has been, and how important his leadership is on the world stage.”

Diplomats described Biden’s performance at the Group of Seven summit in Italy in mid-June as mixed, with Biden appearing physically frailer than in the past but alert in many of the most important discussions.

Biden missed the summit’s dinner party in a medieval castle, an off-camera and less- scripted part of the summit in which leaders often exchange views more candidly. He was the only G-7 leader not to attend the meal; the White House told reporters in advance he wouldn’t be there because it would be a “jam-packed two days” of meetings. Biden instead held an event with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and had a news conference.

The next day, Biden followed through on his plans to forgo a Swiss peace summit on Ukraine to attend a California fundraiser instead, frustrating Ukrainian officials who had organized the conference in Switzerland directly after the G-7 in the hope that Biden would come from Italy.

Top White House officials disputed any portrait of a president slipping during his European trip, which included 12-hour days chock-full of meetings. “He didn’t miss a beat,” said Daleep Singh, the deputy national security adviser for international economics who participated in meetings with Biden. Singh said that there has been no change to the “forceful and substantive rigor” that Biden brings to meetings with foreign leaders.

Officials said that Biden’s performance and focus can vary significantly between meetings and even within a meeting. Two senior European officials cited a European Union-U.S. summit in October in Washington at which Biden struggled to follow the discussions. Both said he stumbled over his talking points at several moments, requiring Secretary of State Antony Blinken to intervene and point out the lines he should use.

“I saw none of that,” said Mark Gitenstein, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, who attended the meeting. He said Blinken intervened just to help Biden find a tab for a document in a large notebook. He also said that during the meeting Biden was discussing the release of hostages held by Hamas, which drew his attention for part of the meeting.

“He was whispering to them,” Gitenstein said, referring to aides. “And he got an answer and was pleased with the results. He then turned around and announced that hostages were released. That was the main thing that happened.”

Gitenstein added that the meeting was large and included people who haven’t spent time with Biden and therefore don’t know him well.

Worries in Europe
“The reading in Europe is that this has been an unmitigated disaster,” said Nathalie Tocci, director of the Institute of International Affairs in Rome and a former adviser to the EU’s foreign-affairs chiefs, referring to Biden’s attempts to reassure voters worried about his age. European officials and prominent commentators, she added, “have been talking about it. It’s something that has been known, always, that his age is his main Achilles’ heel.”

In the hours after Thursday’s debate, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk told reporters that the Democrats have a problem.
“I was afraid of this. It was to be expected that in a direct confrontation, in a debate, it would not be easy for the president,” said Tusk, who has known Biden for years. Asked what he thought of proposals to replace Biden with another candidate, he said: “They definitely have a problem. The reactions have been unambiguous.”

Norbert Röttgen, a senior lawmaker in Germany’s center-right main opposition party and the former chair of its parliament’s foreign-affairs committee, said on X: “The Democrats must switch horses now.” Slovenian former Prime Minister Janez Janša said he bet months ago that Biden would no longer be on the ballot in November.

When Biden was in France to commemorate the 80th anniversary of D-Day in June, he struggled. During a bilateral meeting in Paris with Zelensky, Biden spoke so softly that reporters brought in to document the meeting between the two men couldn’t initially hear the American president. Zelensky, a non-native English speaker, could be heard clearly.

During the brief exchange, Biden flubbed when explaining what the Ukrainians would do with a new tranche of $225 million in funds that the U.S. was sending. Biden told Zelensky that money was “to help you reconstruct the electric grid.” Officials traveling with the president explained that the money was actually a series of munitions including air defenses that could protect the electric grid, among other targets, and not for rebuilding the electric grid.

Back in Washington for a brief time between his trips to France and Italy, Biden appeared at a Juneteenth concert at the South Lawn. Video footage of the event showed him clapping noticeably out of time to the music. He needed assistance from the person seated next to him when it was time for him to get up.

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, when asked about his awkward behavior at the event, dismissed the question. “That is just not a health issue,” she said.

Throughout the ups and downs, first lady Jill Biden has been a strong supporter of her husband’s decision to run and stay in the race, according to two people familiar with the situation. Biden’s top aides insist publicly and around various Washington dining room tables that the president is mentally sharp. As recently as May, one aide in frequent contact with the president insisted that there has been absolutely no change in his performance.

And, when confronted with evidence that Biden is deteriorating, the White House pushes back hard, including when The Wall Street Journal reported this month that Biden showed signs of slipping in negotiations with congressional leaders. In February, before the Hur report was released on the probe into Biden’s handling of classified documents, White House lawyers sought to strip references about Biden’s memory from the report. The White House team of communications officials labeled Hur’s comments on Biden’s memory as “gratuitous” as they expressed relief that he wasn’t recommending criminal charges against Biden.

Donor frustration
Contributors have for months privately raised concerns about Biden’s lack of spontaneity in settings with his biggest supporters.

At a September 2023 fundraiser in New York, Biden retold the same anecdote twice—leaving at least one attendee shaken and worried about his age. In February, Biden used a teleprompter at a fundraiser in Los Angeles, and questions were screened in advance, according to a person familiar with the matter—frustrating some donors who had expected a more free-flowing exchange.

During a May fundraiser in Washington state, Biden appeared to lose his train of thought as he talked about Israel and at one point paused for five seconds before continuing, according to a pool report from a journalist who attended. Biden said: “The cease-fire would begin tomorrow. It all has to do…you know, we’ve not…anyway, I guess I shouldn’t get into all this about Israel but…”

Some major Democratic donors have sat this race out, believing that the ticket might change or that Biden is too old, according to two people familiar with Biden’s fundraising operation. So far the money has come in at such a fast clip that those naysayers have been ignored.

Bojan Pancevski, Siobhan Hughes and Marcus Walker contributed to this article.
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old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:23 am From the WSJ for the benefit of non-subscribers. It's getting a lot of attention.
Biden's already lost the NYT & WP.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/ ... s-6d753921
Meh. America wants someone unfit for office to lead them. Remember that we're not supposed to tell Americans that they're acting stupidly....because if we do that, we're called condescending libs, instead of what we actually are.....reasonable people who can think.
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a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:27 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:23 am From the WSJ for the benefit of non-subscribers. It's getting a lot of attention.
Biden's already lost the NYT & WP.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/ ... s-6d753921
Meh. America wants someone unfit for office to lead them. Remember that we're not supposed to tell Americans that they're acting stupidly....because if we do that, we're called condescending libs, instead of what we actually are.....reasonable people who can think.
Don't use up all your tedious sour grapes this early, you have not officially lost yet.
No matter what happens, you'll find a way to say -- "I told you so".
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old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:31 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:27 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:23 am From the WSJ for the benefit of non-subscribers. It's getting a lot of attention.
Biden's already lost the NYT & WP.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/ ... s-6d753921
Meh. America wants someone unfit for office to lead them. Remember that we're not supposed to tell Americans that they're acting stupidly....because if we do that, we're called condescending libs, instead of what we actually are.....reasonable people who can think.
Don't use up all your tedious sour grapes this early, you have not officially lost yet.
No matter what happens, you'll find a way to say -- "I told you so".
:lol: You have it backwards, as always. You and your partisan pals that ONLY care about the letter D and R are the ones who spin what your guy does....where no matter what they do either a. it's no big deal b. you LOVE that they did that, or c. you ignore it.

At no point will you actively criticize your letter R, and demand better.

What I do is the opposite: what I have been telling you for YEARS is: ignore the d's and r's, and look at what the ACTUAL policies are.

And what I've been telling you is: the American working class is circling the drain. And neither you nor your fellow Republicans care.

So yep, if Trump wins, the libs win, and get more money, more tax breaks, more of a leg up because they're attending the best schools. Same thing that happened to you, my friend.

And yep, if Biden wins, he's center right, and kept Trump's massive tax cuts in place, and didn't come up with enough major plans to bridge the gap between the Ivy Liberal Elites, and the working class.

And you can dance all you want, but the numbers don't lie. Ask the working class how they're doing. How's their cost of housing? Or education? Or Health Care?

We have stopped solving these problems because partisans like you are obsessed with little letters, instead of actually moving the country into the 21st century. Immigration? How many tens of millions are not paying payroll tax because voters like you have been waiting for DECADES for some imaginary, perfect bill that will NEVER arrive? Do ya think we could use those billions in taxes right about now?

So yes, unless policy changes? You're doggone right I'm going to tell you "I told you so". Who wins is immaterial, unless they make MAJOR changes to our economic policies.

Wake up, is what I've been trying to tell you. You CLAIM to care about rural America and the working class, yet the policies you cheer on says that you don't. And that's fine....just stop claiming you care about them, and you're all set. You're allowed your views and opinions, no problems there.
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Your daily reminder of how pathetic and horrible the Democrat Party is:

The Democrat party is unrecognizable today. Democrats today support:

High inflation
Endless wars
Believe men can be women (What the heck) (why don’t Democrats trust the science of biology and bodily anatomy?)
Democrats think masking works and so do 12 booster shots for a COVID virus that is the flu. ( why don’t they trust the science here?!?)
Democrats support pornographic books being promoted and read to children in school.
Democrats support grooming of children.
Support open borders
Support illegal aliens over law abiding citizens
Support illegals replacing the American electorate to maintain power
High taxes on the middle class
Support enslaving black people to their causes. Democrats are the party of racism, slavery and the KKK. What good have Democrats ever done for black people besides keep them as slaves? Democrat policies have destroyed the black nuclear family and created a culture that glorifies violence. The vast majority of violent crime per capita is committed by black men. That’s all due to the Democrat Party replacing the breadwinner of the black family with government welfare.
Democrats Support pedophilia, incest and rape ( all things Biden has committed- he raped his own daughter and molested countless others with video and photographic evidence to prove it)
They support voter fraud and fraudulent elections to maintain power (fascism)
They support imprisoning their political opponents (fascist)
They support censoring free speech (fascism)
They support killing babies via abortion up to and after birth
Democrats support putting America and its citizens last.

The whole country knows that now after the debate Trump utterly destroyed Pedophile Joe Biden.

MAGA is about putting America First. Trump showed power, command and strength. He was under control and provided a sense of security for the country and its people. Voting for Trump means a return to normalcy and success for all Americans.
RIP a fan (8/30/24)

Cause of death: Violent Illegal Venezuelan gangs let into this country and his home by the Democrats and Kamala Harris.

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LaxFan2311 wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:03 am Your daily reminder of how pathetic and horrible the Democrat Party is:

The Democrat party is unrecognizable today. Democrats today support:

High inflation
Endless wars
Believe men can be women (What the heck) (why don’t Democrats trust the science of biology and bodily anatomy?)
Democrats think masking works and so do 12 booster shots for a COVID virus that is the flu. ( why don’t they trust the science here?!?)
Democrats support pornographic books being promoted and read to children in school.
Democrats support grooming of children.
Support open borders
Support illegal aliens over law abiding citizens
Support illegals replacing the American electorate to maintain power
High taxes on the middle class
Support enslaving black people to their causes. Democrats are the party of racism, slavery and the KKK. What good have Democrats ever done for black people besides keep them as slaves? Democrat policies have destroyed the black nuclear family and created a culture that glorifies violence. The vast majority of violent crime per capita is committed by black men. That’s all due to the Democrat Party replacing the breadwinner of the black family with government welfare.
Democrats Support pedophilia, incest and rape ( all things Biden has committed- he raped his own daughter and molested countless others with video and photographic evidence to prove it)
They support voter fraud and fraudulent elections to maintain power (fascism)
They support imprisoning their political opponents (fascist)
They support censoring free speech (fascism)
They support killing babies via abortion up to and after birth
Democrats support putting America and its citizens last.

The whole country knows that now after the debate Trump utterly destroyed Pedophile Joe Biden.

MAGA is about putting America First. Trump showed power, command and strength. He was under control and provided a sense of security for the country and its people. Voting for Trump means a return to normalcy and success for all Americans.
Oh no, Pete!!!

Tell us what to do to stop them, and install Republicans who would NEVER break laws or do things like molest kids. Well, except the Catholics, but that’s cool, they get a pass for that.

Help us , Pete! What do we do?!?!
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a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:37 am
LaxFan2311 wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:03 am Your daily reminder of how pathetic and horrible the Democrat Party is:

The Democrat party is unrecognizable today. Democrats today support:

High inflation
Endless wars
Believe men can be women (What the heck) (why don’t Democrats trust the science of biology and bodily anatomy?)
Democrats think masking works and so do 12 booster shots for a COVID virus that is the flu. ( why don’t they trust the science here?!?)
Democrats support pornographic books being promoted and read to children in school.
Democrats support grooming of children.
Support open borders
Support illegal aliens over law abiding citizens
Support illegals replacing the American electorate to maintain power
High taxes on the middle class
Support enslaving black people to their causes. Democrats are the party of racism, slavery and the KKK. What good have Democrats ever done for black people besides keep them as slaves? Democrat policies have destroyed the black nuclear family and created a culture that glorifies violence. The vast majority of violent crime per capita is committed by black men. That’s all due to the Democrat Party replacing the breadwinner of the black family with government welfare.
Democrats Support pedophilia, incest and rape ( all things Biden has committed- he raped his own daughter and molested countless others with video and photographic evidence to prove it)
They support voter fraud and fraudulent elections to maintain power (fascism)
They support imprisoning their political opponents (fascist)
They support censoring free speech (fascism)
They support killing babies via abortion up to and after birth
Democrats support putting America and its citizens last.

The whole country knows that now after the debate Trump utterly destroyed Pedophile Joe Biden.

MAGA is about putting America First. Trump showed power, command and strength. He was under control and provided a sense of security for the country and its people. Voting for Trump means a return to normalcy and success for all Americans.
Oh no, Pete!!!

Tell us what to do to stop them, and install Republicans who would NEVER break laws or do things like molest kids. Well, except the Catholics, but that’s cool, they get a pass for that.

Help us , Pete! What do we do?!?!
Teddy Kennedy was a devout Catholic who would molest any waitress he could get his slimy hands on. He earned the label from HIS party as the LION of the Senate. You not only get a pass my man... You get Lionized. 8-)

Anybody up for a waitress sammich??😋
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:59 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:37 am
LaxFan2311 wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:03 am Your daily reminder of how pathetic and horrible the Democrat Party is:

The Democrat party is unrecognizable today. Democrats today support:

High inflation
Endless wars
Believe men can be women (What the heck) (why don’t Democrats trust the science of biology and bodily anatomy?)
Democrats think masking works and so do 12 booster shots for a COVID virus that is the flu. ( why don’t they trust the science here?!?)
Democrats support pornographic books being promoted and read to children in school.
Democrats support grooming of children.
Support open borders
Support illegal aliens over law abiding citizens
Support illegals replacing the American electorate to maintain power
High taxes on the middle class
Support enslaving black people to their causes. Democrats are the party of racism, slavery and the KKK. What good have Democrats ever done for black people besides keep them as slaves? Democrat policies have destroyed the black nuclear family and created a culture that glorifies violence. The vast majority of violent crime per capita is committed by black men. That’s all due to the Democrat Party replacing the breadwinner of the black family with government welfare.
Democrats Support pedophilia, incest and rape ( all things Biden has committed- he raped his own daughter and molested countless others with video and photographic evidence to prove it)
They support voter fraud and fraudulent elections to maintain power (fascism)
They support imprisoning their political opponents (fascist)
They support censoring free speech (fascism)
They support killing babies via abortion up to and after birth
Democrats support putting America and its citizens last.

The whole country knows that now after the debate Trump utterly destroyed Pedophile Joe Biden.

MAGA is about putting America First. Trump showed power, command and strength. He was under control and provided a sense of security for the country and its people. Voting for Trump means a return to normalcy and success for all Americans.
Oh no, Pete!!!

Tell us what to do to stop them, and install Republicans who would NEVER break laws or do things like molest kids. Well, except the Catholics, but that’s cool, they get a pass for that.

Help us , Pete! What do we do?!?!
Teddy Kennedy was a devout Catholic who would molest any waitress he could get his slimy hands on. He earned the label from HIS party as the LION of the Senate. You not only get a pass my man... You get Lionized. 8-)

Anybody up for a waitress sammich??😋
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a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:56 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:31 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:27 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:23 am From the WSJ for the benefit of non-subscribers. It's getting a lot of attention.
Biden's already lost the NYT & WP.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/ ... s-6d753921
Meh. America wants someone unfit for office to lead them. Remember that we're not supposed to tell Americans that they're acting stupidly....because if we do that, we're called condescending libs, instead of what we actually are.....reasonable people who can think.
Don't use up all your tedious sour grapes this early, you have not officially lost yet.
No matter what happens, you'll find a way to say -- "I told you so".
:lol: You have it backwards, as always. You and your partisan pals that ONLY care about the letter D and R are the ones who spin what your guy does....where no matter what they do either a. it's no big deal b. you LOVE that they did that, or c. you ignore it.

At no point will you actively criticize your letter R, and demand better.

What I do is the opposite: what I have been telling you for YEARS is: ignore the d's and r's, and look at what the ACTUAL policies are.

And what I've been telling you is: the American working class is circling the drain. And neither you nor your fellow Republicans care.

So yep, if Trump wins, the libs win, and get more money, more tax breaks, more of a leg up because they're attending the best schools. Same thing that happened to you, my friend.

And yep, if Biden wins, he's center right, and kept Trump's massive tax cuts in place, and didn't come up with enough major plans to bridge the gap between the Ivy Liberal Elites, and the working class.

And you can dance all you want, but the numbers don't lie. Ask the working class how they're doing. How's their cost of housing? Or education? Or Health Care?

We have stopped solving these problems because partisans like you are obsessed with little letters, instead of actually moving the country into the 21st century. Immigration? How many tens of millions are not paying payroll tax because voters like you have been waiting for DECADES for some imaginary, perfect bill that will NEVER arrive? Do ya think we could use those billions in taxes right about now?

So yes, unless policy changes? You're doggone right I'm going to tell you "I told you so". Who wins is immaterial, unless they make MAJOR changes to our economic policies.

Wake up, is what I've been trying to tell you. You CLAIM to care about rural America and the working class, yet the policies you cheer on says that you don't. And that's fine....just stop claiming you care about them, and you're all set. You're allowed your views and opinions, no problems there.
Hang in there & keep telling yourself what you hope for.
It's going to get worse as your whacked out Progressive agenda further implodes.
Biden, Bowman, & the MSM are just the beginning.
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old salt wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:54 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:56 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:31 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:27 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:23 am From the WSJ for the benefit of non-subscribers. It's getting a lot of attention.
Biden's already lost the NYT & WP.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/ ... s-6d753921
Meh. America wants someone unfit for office to lead them. Remember that we're not supposed to tell Americans that they're acting stupidly....because if we do that, we're called condescending libs, instead of what we actually are.....reasonable people who can think.
Don't use up all your tedious sour grapes this early, you have not officially lost yet.
No matter what happens, you'll find a way to say -- "I told you so".
:lol: You have it backwards, as always. You and your partisan pals that ONLY care about the letter D and R are the ones who spin what your guy does....where no matter what they do either a. it's no big deal b. you LOVE that they did that, or c. you ignore it.

At no point will you actively criticize your letter R, and demand better.

What I do is the opposite: what I have been telling you for YEARS is: ignore the d's and r's, and look at what the ACTUAL policies are.

And what I've been telling you is: the American working class is circling the drain. And neither you nor your fellow Republicans care.

So yep, if Trump wins, the libs win, and get more money, more tax breaks, more of a leg up because they're attending the best schools. Same thing that happened to you, my friend.

And yep, if Biden wins, he's center right, and kept Trump's massive tax cuts in place, and didn't come up with enough major plans to bridge the gap between the Ivy Liberal Elites, and the working class.

And you can dance all you want, but the numbers don't lie. Ask the working class how they're doing. How's their cost of housing? Or education? Or Health Care?

We have stopped solving these problems because partisans like you are obsessed with little letters, instead of actually moving the country into the 21st century. Immigration? How many tens of millions are not paying payroll tax because voters like you have been waiting for DECADES for some imaginary, perfect bill that will NEVER arrive? Do ya think we could use those billions in taxes right about now?

So yes, unless policy changes? You're doggone right I'm going to tell you "I told you so". Who wins is immaterial, unless they make MAJOR changes to our economic policies.

Wake up, is what I've been trying to tell you. You CLAIM to care about rural America and the working class, yet the policies you cheer on says that you don't. And that's fine....just stop claiming you care about them, and you're all set. You're allowed your views and opinions, no problems there.
Hang in there & keep telling yourself what you hope for.
It's going to get worse as your whacked out Progressive agenda further implodes.
Biden, Bowman, & the MSM are just the beginning.
Blaming the libs won't help working class Americans, or put food on their table.

Nor will trolling me, OS.

But the one thing you're right about, and is my entire point, which you understand perfectly well: if the Republicans don't come up with a way to bring their base into the economics of the 21st century? Your younger Republican voters will vote for someone who will.

20 years, and your crew hasn't passed a single bill that helps the working class. What's been keeping the lights on are the trillions in borrowed money, haphazardly shot through rural America like a carpet bombing raid on Berlin.

You're acting like your surprised to find that if the Republicans don't help young workers, they'll vote for someone who will.

It ain't that hard to help them, OS. Your party simply doesn't want to do it.
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Re: The Biden - Harris Era.

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a fan wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:55 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:54 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:56 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:31 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:27 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:23 am From the WSJ for the benefit of non-subscribers. It's getting a lot of attention.
Biden's already lost the NYT & WP.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/ ... s-6d753921
Meh. America wants someone unfit for office to lead them. Remember that we're not supposed to tell Americans that they're acting stupidly....because if we do that, we're called condescending libs, instead of what we actually are.....reasonable people who can think.
Don't use up all your tedious sour grapes this early, you have not officially lost yet.
No matter what happens, you'll find a way to say -- "I told you so".
:lol: You have it backwards, as always. You and your partisan pals that ONLY care about the letter D and R are the ones who spin what your guy does....where no matter what they do either a. it's no big deal b. you LOVE that they did that, or c. you ignore it.

At no point will you actively criticize your letter R, and demand better.

What I do is the opposite: what I have been telling you for YEARS is: ignore the d's and r's, and look at what the ACTUAL policies are.

And what I've been telling you is: the American working class is circling the drain. And neither you nor your fellow Republicans care.

So yep, if Trump wins, the libs win, and get more money, more tax breaks, more of a leg up because they're attending the best schools. Same thing that happened to you, my friend.

And yep, if Biden wins, he's center right, and kept Trump's massive tax cuts in place, and didn't come up with enough major plans to bridge the gap between the Ivy Liberal Elites, and the working class.

And you can dance all you want, but the numbers don't lie. Ask the working class how they're doing. How's their cost of housing? Or education? Or Health Care?

We have stopped solving these problems because partisans like you are obsessed with little letters, instead of actually moving the country into the 21st century. Immigration? How many tens of millions are not paying payroll tax because voters like you have been waiting for DECADES for some imaginary, perfect bill that will NEVER arrive? Do ya think we could use those billions in taxes right about now?

So yes, unless policy changes? You're doggone right I'm going to tell you "I told you so". Who wins is immaterial, unless they make MAJOR changes to our economic policies.

Wake up, is what I've been trying to tell you. You CLAIM to care about rural America and the working class, yet the policies you cheer on says that you don't. And that's fine....just stop claiming you care about them, and you're all set. You're allowed your views and opinions, no problems there.
Hang in there & keep telling yourself what you hope for.
It's going to get worse as your whacked out Progressive agenda further implodes.
Biden, Bowman, & the MSM are just the beginning.
Blaming the libs won't help working class Americans, or put food on their table.

Nor will trolling me, OS.

But the one thing you're right about, and is my entire point, which you understand perfectly well: if the Republicans don't come up with a way to bring their base into the economics of the 21st century? Your younger Republican voters will vote for someone who will.

20 years, and your crew hasn't passed a single bill that helps the working class. What's been keeping the lights on are the trillions in borrowed money, haphazardly shot through rural America like a carpet bombing raid on Berlin.

You're acting like your surprised to find that if the Republicans don't help young workers, they'll vote for someone who will.

It ain't that hard to help them, OS. Your party simply doesn't want to do it.
Not blaming any political party my man. I do the shopping every week. I have split my grocery list between Aldi's and Wegmans. My wife and I use to average around 80 dollars a week for the 2 of us just 5 years ago. Thank goodness for Aldi's because we were averaging around 120 dollars a week. I have that down to around 110 dollars a week. My wife and I are fortunate, we can easily afford our grocery bill. If your on a fixed income with a gaggle of young kids I don't know how they do it. That is what inflation does my man. You already know that.
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Stop it cradle, you are making far more money under biden, prices are not up as you suggest, you are not spending far more money for less.....its all in your head. Just stop lying. ;)
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:23 am Stop it cradle, you are making far more money under biden, prices are not up as you suggest, you are not spending far more money for less.....its all in your head. Just stop lying. ;)
Shhhh that's suppose to be a secret. ;)
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:04 am
a fan wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:55 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:54 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:56 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:31 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:27 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:23 am From the WSJ for the benefit of non-subscribers. It's getting a lot of attention.
Biden's already lost the NYT & WP.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/ ... s-6d753921
Meh. America wants someone unfit for office to lead them. Remember that we're not supposed to tell Americans that they're acting stupidly....because if we do that, we're called condescending libs, instead of what we actually are.....reasonable people who can think.
Don't use up all your tedious sour grapes this early, you have not officially lost yet.
No matter what happens, you'll find a way to say -- "I told you so".
:lol: You have it backwards, as always. You and your partisan pals that ONLY care about the letter D and R are the ones who spin what your guy does....where no matter what they do either a. it's no big deal b. you LOVE that they did that, or c. you ignore it.

At no point will you actively criticize your letter R, and demand better.

What I do is the opposite: what I have been telling you for YEARS is: ignore the d's and r's, and look at what the ACTUAL policies are.

And what I've been telling you is: the American working class is circling the drain. And neither you nor your fellow Republicans care.

So yep, if Trump wins, the libs win, and get more money, more tax breaks, more of a leg up because they're attending the best schools. Same thing that happened to you, my friend.

And yep, if Biden wins, he's center right, and kept Trump's massive tax cuts in place, and didn't come up with enough major plans to bridge the gap between the Ivy Liberal Elites, and the working class.

And you can dance all you want, but the numbers don't lie. Ask the working class how they're doing. How's their cost of housing? Or education? Or Health Care?

We have stopped solving these problems because partisans like you are obsessed with little letters, instead of actually moving the country into the 21st century. Immigration? How many tens of millions are not paying payroll tax because voters like you have been waiting for DECADES for some imaginary, perfect bill that will NEVER arrive? Do ya think we could use those billions in taxes right about now?

So yes, unless policy changes? You're doggone right I'm going to tell you "I told you so". Who wins is immaterial, unless they make MAJOR changes to our economic policies.

Wake up, is what I've been trying to tell you. You CLAIM to care about rural America and the working class, yet the policies you cheer on says that you don't. And that's fine....just stop claiming you care about them, and you're all set. You're allowed your views and opinions, no problems there.
Hang in there & keep telling yourself what you hope for.
It's going to get worse as your whacked out Progressive agenda further implodes.
Biden, Bowman, & the MSM are just the beginning.
Blaming the libs won't help working class Americans, or put food on their table.

Nor will trolling me, OS.

But the one thing you're right about, and is my entire point, which you understand perfectly well: if the Republicans don't come up with a way to bring their base into the economics of the 21st century? Your younger Republican voters will vote for someone who will.

20 years, and your crew hasn't passed a single bill that helps the working class. What's been keeping the lights on are the trillions in borrowed money, haphazardly shot through rural America like a carpet bombing raid on Berlin.

You're acting like your surprised to find that if the Republicans don't help young workers, they'll vote for someone who will.

It ain't that hard to help them, OS. Your party simply doesn't want to do it.
Not blaming any political party my man. I do the shopping every week. I have split my grocery list between Aldi's and Wegmans. My wife and I use to average around 80 dollars a week for the 2 of us just 5 years ago. Thank goodness for Aldi's because we were averaging around 120 dollars a week. I have that down to around 110 dollars a week. My wife and I are fortunate, we can easily afford our grocery bill. If your on a fixed income with a gaggle of young kids I don't know how they do it. That is what inflation does my man. You already know that.
It amazing how Democrats think inflation is going down. It’s just the opposite. Going to the grocery store or out to a restaurant is the easiest way to figure that out. Democrats are evil and the biggest threat to our Constitutional Republic.
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Re: The Biden - Harris Era.

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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:04 am
a fan wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:55 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:54 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:56 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:31 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:27 am
old salt wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:23 am From the WSJ for the benefit of non-subscribers. It's getting a lot of attention.
Biden's already lost the NYT & WP.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/ ... s-6d753921
Meh. America wants someone unfit for office to lead them. Remember that we're not supposed to tell Americans that they're acting stupidly....because if we do that, we're called condescending libs, instead of what we actually are.....reasonable people who can think.
Don't use up all your tedious sour grapes this early, you have not officially lost yet.
No matter what happens, you'll find a way to say -- "I told you so".
:lol: You have it backwards, as always. You and your partisan pals that ONLY care about the letter D and R are the ones who spin what your guy does....where no matter what they do either a. it's no big deal b. you LOVE that they did that, or c. you ignore it.

At no point will you actively criticize your letter R, and demand better.

What I do is the opposite: what I have been telling you for YEARS is: ignore the d's and r's, and look at what the ACTUAL policies are.

And what I've been telling you is: the American working class is circling the drain. And neither you nor your fellow Republicans care.

So yep, if Trump wins, the libs win, and get more money, more tax breaks, more of a leg up because they're attending the best schools. Same thing that happened to you, my friend.

And yep, if Biden wins, he's center right, and kept Trump's massive tax cuts in place, and didn't come up with enough major plans to bridge the gap between the Ivy Liberal Elites, and the working class.

And you can dance all you want, but the numbers don't lie. Ask the working class how they're doing. How's their cost of housing? Or education? Or Health Care?

We have stopped solving these problems because partisans like you are obsessed with little letters, instead of actually moving the country into the 21st century. Immigration? How many tens of millions are not paying payroll tax because voters like you have been waiting for DECADES for some imaginary, perfect bill that will NEVER arrive? Do ya think we could use those billions in taxes right about now?

So yes, unless policy changes? You're doggone right I'm going to tell you "I told you so". Who wins is immaterial, unless they make MAJOR changes to our economic policies.

Wake up, is what I've been trying to tell you. You CLAIM to care about rural America and the working class, yet the policies you cheer on says that you don't. And that's fine....just stop claiming you care about them, and you're all set. You're allowed your views and opinions, no problems there.
Hang in there & keep telling yourself what you hope for.
It's going to get worse as your whacked out Progressive agenda further implodes.
Biden, Bowman, & the MSM are just the beginning.
Blaming the libs won't help working class Americans, or put food on their table.

Nor will trolling me, OS.

But the one thing you're right about, and is my entire point, which you understand perfectly well: if the Republicans don't come up with a way to bring their base into the economics of the 21st century? Your younger Republican voters will vote for someone who will.

20 years, and your crew hasn't passed a single bill that helps the working class. What's been keeping the lights on are the trillions in borrowed money, haphazardly shot through rural America like a carpet bombing raid on Berlin.

You're acting like your surprised to find that if the Republicans don't help young workers, they'll vote for someone who will.

It ain't that hard to help them, OS. Your party simply doesn't want to do it.
Not blaming any political party my man. I do the shopping every week. I have split my grocery list between Aldi's and Wegmans. My wife and I use to average around 80 dollars a week for the 2 of us just 5 years ago. Thank goodness for Aldi's because we were averaging around 120 dollars a week. I have that down to around 110 dollars a week. My wife and I are fortunate, we can easily afford our grocery bill. If your on a fixed income with a gaggle of young kids I don't know how they do it. That is what inflation does my man. You already know that.
Yep. It's why I'm livid we have to choose between two old men who represent the worst of two parties who don't care one lick about the working class.
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Re: The Biden - Harris Era.

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youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:23 am Stop it cradle, you are making far more money under biden, prices are not up as you suggest, you are not spending far more money for less.....its all in your head. Just stop lying. ;)
He's not making more money. YOU are. So am I, and so is OS, despite his trolling.

You guys all know I'm right, which is why y'all get quiet when it comes to the economy: both parties stopped helping the working class...and are pumping money as fast as they can to me and Americans with great jobs, multiple degrees, who largely live in big cities.

A poster showed the feigned division in Congress in a chart that 100% mirrors the explosion in the gap between rich and poor in America.

They don't REALLY disagree on how to run the country. It's shiny objects to keep Americans from figure out that the .gov keeps getting bigger on borrowed money, and that money is allllll heading to the top 10% earners. And that includes Congress and their families, obviously.


Again: the top 10% owns 93% of the US stock market. So record Dow numbers this year? Guess who wins? And the inflation? Guess who loses?

And Trump is ready to borrow more money, and cut taxes.....both being cheered by Republican voters. The working class will NEVER catch on to this game. And I hate watching their lives fall apart.

And Biden ain't a whole lot better, of course.
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