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ggait wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:34 pm Obama and Michelle have been making BANK on book deals after leaving the White House. Lots of people like them and therefore like buying their best selling books. All commerical terms. All fully transparent.

Clarence, on the other hand, has surreptitously taken hand outs while in office and has done back flips to avoid disclosing his gifts/bribes/gratuities he has received while in office.

Some rich friend gave a sitting Justice a $275k luxury RV with zero disclosure. YCBS!!!

Apples and watermelons dude.

So just shove your uniformed gaslight garbage. And please STFU.

Thanks.
What's the the point of the last part of the post? To dole out abuse because you don't share the same political views as another poster? As predictable as Taxes. :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll:

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JoeMauer89 wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:12 pm
ggait wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:34 pm Obama and Michelle have been making BANK on book deals after leaving the White House. Lots of people like them and therefore like buying their best selling books. All commerical terms. All fully transparent.

Clarence, on the other hand, has surreptitously taken hand outs while in office and has done back flips to avoid disclosing his gifts/bribes/gratuities he has received while in office.

Some rich friend gave a sitting Justice a $275k luxury RV with zero disclosure. YCBS!!!

Apples and watermelons dude.

So just shove your uniformed gaslight garbage. And please STFU.

Thanks.
What's the the point of the last part of the post? To dole out abuse because you don't share the same political views as another poster? As predictable as Taxes. :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll:

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Let's keep talking about posters instead of the argument, which was about 98% of ggaits post.

JM always avoiding the actual discussion, lol. Especially when the side he supports is 100% wrong. Not even a "political view" argument, just basic facts.
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We ain’t talkin about political opinions.

We are talkin about facts.

And I reserve the right to call out bad faith troll lies and bull shirt. Obama is making money legally and transparently in the free market. And paying taxes on his income.

Thomas is hiding payoffs taken while still in office. Not paying taxes on those gifts. His handouts are massively unethical. Quite likely illegal. A forking free rv worth $273k!!!!

And if you can’t tell the difference, Joe, how about you stfu too.

With all due respect, of course.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:31 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:02 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:00 pm Name your price. Did I miss comments in Fanlax on this decision?

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... uption-law
WTAF?!?!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sweet. Keep sticking it the working class, and hand the keys to our government to the 1%ers. Smart. Way to go, SCOTUS!!
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Two boxes today. One opinion so far. The homeless case.
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Chevron overruled. This court has essentially eviscerated the stare decisis doctrine. Perhaps sometime down the road the court will give the same treatment to Dobbs and Heller. Let’s hope.
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J6 case reversed and remanded, although on quick reading, it seems to me there is still a basis to find the insurrectionists illegally interfered with an official proceeding. Remains to be seen.

Roberts announced that Monday will be the last day of the term. Sounds like they are done for the day. So we got three decisions today and three will come on Monday, including the Trump case.
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njbill wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:31 am Chevron overruled. This court has essentially eviscerated the stare decisis doctrine. Perhaps sometime down the road the court will give the same treatment to Dobbs and Heller. Let’s hope.
One way to look at it. Fair enough. Others feel exactly the opposite: ie that curbing the power of the Executive Branch to bypass legislative procedures is something voters seeking accountability by the government that represents them – is actually a good thing.

Of the three branches of the federal government, I personally feel the executive branch, and its agencies, have strayed the furthest from the role granted to it by the constitution. I've had Executive Order fatigue since, well, Beavis. Wait, Butthead. ;)
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The notion is that the agencies have expertise unlike the courts. Non-partisan government bureaucrats make decisions on issues about which they are experts. On the other hand, courts don’t have any special expertise in these technical areas. Thus, the courts should give deference to the agencies. Pretty simple and reasonable really. Today, this decision is biting the Democrats. Tomorrow it will bite the Republicans.

Do you really want courts deciding what drugs are safe or unsafe, overruling the scientific and medical judgments of the experts?

Perhaps even more troubling is that the decision goes a long way towards eviscerating the rule of law (stare decisis) that has been applied and enforced in this country for hundreds of years.
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WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Friday ruled in favor of a former police officer who is seeking to throw out an obstruction charge for joining the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021.

The justices in a 6-3 vote on nonideological lines handed a win to defendant Joseph Fischer, who is among hundreds of Jan. 6 defendants — including former President Donald Trump — who have been charged with obstructing an official proceeding over the effort to prevent Congress' certification of President Joe Biden’s election victory.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... rcna155902
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a fan wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:40 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:31 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:02 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:00 pm Name your price. Did I miss comments in Fanlax on this decision?

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... uption-law
WTAF?!?!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sweet. Keep sticking it the working class, and hand the keys to our government to the 1%ers. Smart. Way to go, SCOTUS!!
how is this "sticking it to" anyone ?
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njbill wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:25 am The notion is that the agencies have expertise unlike the courts. Non-partisan government bureaucrats make decisions on issues about which they are experts. On the other hand, courts don’t have any special expertise in these technical areas. Thus, the courts should give deference to the agencies. Pretty simple and reasonable really. Today, this decision is biting the Democrats. Tomorrow it will bite the Republicans.

Do you really want courts deciding what drugs are safe or unsafe, overruling the scientific and medical judgments of the experts?

Perhaps even more troubling is that the decision goes a long way towards eviscerating the rule of law (stare decisis) that has been applied and enforced in this country for hundreds of years.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-we ... e-landfill

Those pesky checks and balances. Agree, however, that who will be bit will vary moving forward, and with that let's hope that the legislative process will function as designed with those deserving of being bit getting bit. Makes sense to me. Ymmv.

I stand by my skepticism regarding the Executive Branch/agencies doing the right thing with the tilted playing field they've enjoyed. Both D and R. The current golden era of Executive Branch weaponization can be traced, imho, to Obama's IRS weaponization scandal, and it's been a bit of a free for all since then, no?
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No. It has been going on probably since the 1930s.
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It’s probably too early to say this with any certainty, but based on the decisions in this term so far, it appears that Barrett and Jackson may be emerging as swing votes.
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njbill wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:25 am The notion is that the agencies have expertise unlike the courts. Non-partisan government bureaucrats make decisions on issues about which they are experts. On the other hand, courts don’t have any special expertise in these technical areas. Thus, the courts should give deference to the agencies. Pretty simple and reasonable really. Today, this decision is biting the Democrats. Tomorrow it will bite the Republicans.

Do you really want courts deciding what drugs are safe or unsafe, overruling the scientific and medical judgments of the experts?

Perhaps even more troubling is that the decision goes a long way towards eviscerating the rule of law (stare decisis) that has been applied and enforced in this country for hundreds of years.
... absolutely will bite Trump if reelected. :lol:

Agree it was a bad decision but no surprise.
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WaffleTwineFaceoff wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:39 am
njbill wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:25 am The notion is that the agencies have expertise unlike the courts. Non-partisan government bureaucrats make decisions on issues about which they are experts. On the other hand, courts don’t have any special expertise in these technical areas. Thus, the courts should give deference to the agencies. Pretty simple and reasonable really. Today, this decision is biting the Democrats. Tomorrow it will bite the Republicans.

Do you really want courts deciding what drugs are safe or unsafe, overruling the scientific and medical judgments of the experts?

Perhaps even more troubling is that the decision goes a long way towards eviscerating the rule of law (stare decisis) that has been applied and enforced in this country for hundreds of years.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-we ... e-landfill

Those pesky checks and balances. Agree, however, that who will be bit will vary moving forward, and with that let's hope that the legislative process will function as designed with those deserving of being bit getting bit. Makes sense to me. Ymmv.

I stand by my skepticism regarding the Executive Branch/agencies doing the right thing with the tilted playing field they've enjoyed. Both D and R. The current golden era of Executive Branch weaponization can be traced, imho, to Obama's IRS weaponization scandal, and it's been a bit of a free for all since then, no?
... Obama was a real piker when it came to EO's, very far from the most EO's by a president.
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njbill wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:05 pm It’s probably too early to say this with any certainty, but based on the decisions in this term so far, it appears that Barrett and Jackson may be emerging as swing votes.
... certainly confusing. MAGA is hating Barrett. She is probably benefiting from her friendship with Sotomayer. She is turning into a closet liberal. Jackson is an enigma.
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njbill wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:31 am Chevron overruled. This court has essentially eviscerated the stare decisis doctrine. Perhaps sometime down the road the court will give the same treatment to Dobbs and Heller. Let’s hope.
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Is Petey back???
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