Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

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a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:29 pm Click bait ? No need to be angry about the rape & murder of this MD mom of 5.

The stats say it's not a problem. The killer & rapist just needed a job.
Yes. Clickbait. It's a "story" that hits your feed because it's there to make you angry, blame the Dems, vote Republican.

It's working, is it not?
Particularly the “angry” part.
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a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:29 pm Click bait ? No need to be angry about the rape & murder of this MD mom of 5.

The stats say it's not a problem. The killer & rapist just needed a job.
Yes. Clickbait. It's a "story" that hits your feed because it's there to make you angry, blame the Dems, vote Republican.

It's working, is it not?
It was majorly preventable, everywhere….this was also the second one in the small area of Hartford County, MD in less than two years. The Gov also agrees.

https://www.wmar2news.com/local/rachel- ... n-maryland
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:20 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:29 pm Click bait ? No need to be angry about the rape & murder of this MD mom of 5.

The stats say it's not a problem. The killer & rapist just needed a job.
Yes. Clickbait. It's a "story" that hits your feed because it's there to make you angry, blame the Dems, vote Republican.

It's working, is it not?
It was majorly preventable, everywhere….this was also the second one in the small area of Hartford County, MD in less than two years. The Gov also agrees.

https://www.wmar2news.com/local/rachel- ... n-maryland
You and the governor think that we can keep the 10million+ living here illegally from breaking any laws?

Sounds great. So....what's the plan?
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a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:00 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:20 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:29 pm Click bait ? No need to be angry about the rape & murder of this MD mom of 5.

The stats say it's not a problem. The killer & rapist just needed a job.
Yes. Clickbait. It's a "story" that hits your feed because it's there to make you angry, blame the Dems, vote Republican.

It's working, is it not?
It was majorly preventable, everywhere….this was also the second one in the small area of Hartford County, MD in less than two years. The Gov also agrees.

https://www.wmar2news.com/local/rachel- ... n-maryland
You and the governor think that we can keep the 10million+ living here illegally from breaking any laws?

Sounds great. So....what's the plan?
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a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:29 pm Click bait ? No need to be angry about the rape & murder of this MD mom of 5.

The stats say it's not a problem. The killer & rapist just needed a job.
Yes. Clickbait. It's a "story" that hits your feed because it's there to make you angry, blame the Dems, vote Republican.

It's working, is it not?
It's a local story that has had extensive coverage in local media since it happened, with no slant on immigration.

Unlike you, I get my news from sources other than social media.
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old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:05 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:29 pm Click bait ? No need to be angry about the rape & murder of this MD mom of 5.

The stats say it's not a problem. The killer & rapist just needed a job.
Yes. Clickbait. It's a "story" that hits your feed because it's there to make you angry, blame the Dems, vote Republican.

It's working, is it not?
It's a local story that has had extensive coverage in local media since it happened, with no slant on immigration.
From Kram's headline: Rachel Morin's murder case highlights immigration debate in Maryland

This is your idea of no immigration slant?

Okay. I stand corrected.
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a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:17 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:05 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:29 pm Click bait ? No need to be angry about the rape & murder of this MD mom of 5.

The stats say it's not a problem. The killer & rapist just needed a job.
Yes. Clickbait. It's a "story" that hits your feed because it's there to make you angry, blame the Dems, vote Republican.

It's working, is it not?
It's a local story that has had extensive coverage in local media since it happened, with no slant on immigration.
From Kram's headline: Rachel Morin's murder case highlights immigration debate in Maryland

This is your idea of no immigration slant?

Okay. I stand corrected.
Her disappearance received wall to wall local coverage since it happened in Aug '23.
There was no immigration tie-in until the suspect was apprehended.
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a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:00 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:20 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:00 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:29 pm Click bait ? No need to be angry about the rape & murder of this MD mom of 5.

The stats say it's not a problem. The killer & rapist just needed a job.
Yes. Clickbait. It's a "story" that hits your feed because it's there to make you angry, blame the Dems, vote Republican.

It's working, is it not?
It was majorly preventable, everywhere….this was also the second one in the small area of Hartford County, MD in less than two years. The Gov also agrees.

https://www.wmar2news.com/local/rachel- ... n-maryland
You and the governor think that we can keep the 10million+ living here illegally from breaking any laws?

Sounds great. So....what's the plan?
In this case, detain him the first (of four) times he crossed & was detained.
Before releasing him into the US, check his record with El Salvador (where he was wanted),
then hold & extradite him to El Salvadorian authorities.
We have a good working relationship with El Salvador.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/17/us-news/r ... ror-spree/

Rachel Morin’s illegal-migrant killer spent the months before her murder on a violent crime rampage, authorities say.

Suspected Salvadorean gang member Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez allegedly killed a young woman in the Central American country — then illegally crossed into the US four times within two months, with only his last try being successful.

He escaped border detection and roamed around free in the US for about 16 months, committing heinous crimes including Morin’s murder, officials say.

Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez
Illegal migrant and suspected gang member Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez is accused of killing Maryland mom Rachel Morin.
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Here is his timeline of the terror:

January 2023
Martinez-Hernandez allegedly kills a woman in El Salvador and then illegally crosses into the US twice that month — once near El Paso, Texas and then in New Mexico — before being nabbed and booted from the country.

February 2023
Martinez-Hernandez illegally crosses into the US a third time — again in New Mexico — and gets the boot.

Between February and March 26, 2023
Martinez-Hernandez illegally crosses into the US a fourth time, which is apparently the charm, and remains undetected.

March 26, 2023
Martinez-Hernandez allegedly attacks a 9-year-old girl and her mom during a brutal home invasion in Los Angeles.

Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez
The suspect allegedly committed several heinous crimes before Morin’s murder, including a home invasion in Los Angeles that caught him on this doorbell surveillance footage.

Morin, 37, left behind five children ages 8 to 18.

Aug. 5, 2023
Morin, a 37-year-old mom of five, vanishes after going for a walk on the Ma and Pa Heritage Trail in Bel Air, around 6 p.m. Her boyfriend reports her missing around 11:20 p.m.

Aug. 6, 2023
Morin’s body is found about 1 p.m. in a nearby culvert.

Aug. 17, 2023
Cops are able to match the suspected killer’s DNA from the scene to a sample recovered a water bottle and hat left behind at the LA home invasion, linking the crimes. Doorbell surveillance footage of the suspect from the home invasion is released to the public.

Feb. 12, 2024
Cops release a sketch of the suspect and boost the reward for information leading to his arrest to $35,000.

May 20, 2024
Authorities ID Martinez-Hernandez as the suspect.

June 14, 2024
Cops bust Martinez-Hernandez “casually sitting’’ at a bar in Tulsa, Okla.

June 17, 2024
He waives his right to an extradition hearing in Tulsa, paving the way for him to be hauled back to Maryland to face charges in Morin’s death, according to local Baltimore media.
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old salt wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:42 am In this case, detain him the first (of four) times he crossed & was detained.
Before releasing him into the US, check his record with El Salvador (where he was wanted),
then hold & extradite him to El Salvadorian authorities.
We have a good working relationship with El Salvador.
You mean like when the Senate tried to pass a bill giving the border more money, more assets, and the ability to do just what you're suggesting here?

Sorry mate, you can't actually address or even TRY to fix the problem, because Trump and the Republicans need to keep you mad and voting for them.

So yep, Trump called in his political chits, and the Republicans killed the bill that TRIES to get more funding to the border, which includes the ability to sort more effectively.

So now they get to run this murder case, hope that you forget who killed that bill and increased border funding....and vote for Trump.
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a fan wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:27 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:42 am In this case, detain him the first (of four) times he crossed & was detained.
Before releasing him into the US, check his record with El Salvador (where he was wanted),
then hold & extradite him to El Salvadorian authorities.
We have a good working relationship with El Salvador.
You mean like when the Senate tried to pass a bill giving the border more money, more assets, and the ability to do just what you're suggesting here?

Sorry mate, you can't actually address or even TRY to fix the problem, because Trump and the Republicans need to keep you mad and voting for them.

So yep, Trump called in his political chits, and the Republicans killed the bill that TRIES to get more funding to the border, which includes the ability to sort more effectively.

So now they get to run this murder case, hope that you forget who killed that bill and increased border funding....and vote for Trump.
Martinez-Hernandez was in custody 4 times. Caught & released 4 times. The release part was Biden's policy. Sure, blame Trump.

Martinez-Hernandez was already running loose inside the US before the Trojan Horse Bill collapsed because it was really no change,
just more $$$ for NGO's & CBP to attract, welcome & resettle illegal entrants throughout the US.
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old salt wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:41 amMartinez-Hernandez was in custody 4 times. Caught & released 4 times. The release part was Biden's policy. Sure, blame Trump.
Happy to leave Trump out of it. So they had a bill that sent badly needed money and assets to the border....and it was killed. Don't care why. But it was killed. Blame the tides if that makes you happy. I know for doggone sure you'd sooner die that blame anyone with a R by their name, and I get that. You do you.
old salt wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:59 am Martinez-Hernandez was already running loose inside the US before the Trojan Horse Bill collapsed because it was really no change,
just more $$$ for NGO's & CBP to attract, welcome & resettle illegal entrants throughout the US.
Great. So once again, you think the status quo is better. You think having 10 million+ humans not paying a whole mess of taxes is genius, don't change a thing,.

Which is why you keep getting exactly and precisely that. I've been telling you this same. exact. thing. for YEARS now.

You and your fellow Dem and R voters will NEVER catch on, and will keep telling yourself that a magic, special, perfect bill is on its way, "therefore" we should do absolutely nothing until that happens.

This thread will be alive until you catch on to this game, OS. Not a day sooner.
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a fan wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:00 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:41 amMartinez-Hernandez was in custody 4 times. Caught & released 4 times. The release part was Biden's policy. Sure, blame Trump.
Happy to leave Trump out of it. So they had a bill that sent badly needed money and assets to the border....and it was killed. Don't care why. But it was killed. Blame the tides if that makes you happy. I know for doggone sure you'd sooner die that blame anyone with a R by their name, and I get that. You do you.
old salt wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:59 am Martinez-Hernandez was already running loose inside the US before the Trojan Horse Bill collapsed because it was really no change,
just more $$$ for NGO's & CBP to attract, welcome & resettle illegal entrants throughout the US.
Great. So once again, you think the status quo is better. You think having 10 million+ humans not paying a whole mess of taxes is genius, don't change a thing,.

Which is why you keep getting exactly and precisely that. I've been telling you this same. exact. thing. for YEARS now.

You and your fellow Dem and R voters will NEVER catch on, and will keep telling yourself that a magic, special, perfect bill is on its way, "therefore" we should do absolutely nothing until that happens.

This thread will be alive until you catch on to this game, OS. Not a day sooner.
It won't stop until catch & release is stopped, illegal entrants detained, parole entries stopped, the CBP app shut down, no govt funds to NGO's that facilitate the asylum scam & serve as travel agents & legal aid, & mass deportations commenced & expedited. Then it won't be worth paying $10k to a cartel to smuggle you in or show you how to work the asylum scam.
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/17/us/louis ... index.html

This is how we like our killers and rapist.
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old salt wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:24 pm The comparison of crime stats with native born is bogus. We grow our own criminals.
We are supposed to screen & be selective about who we let in.
We don't have to admit proven criminals or likely criminals (e.g. MS-13 tats).
These migrants are not coming via Ellis Island.
+1

These are alien landings.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/17/us/louis ... index.html

This is how we like our killers and rapist.
Terrible story, let's get back on topic.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:20 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/17/us/louis ... index.html

This is how we like our killers and rapist.
Terrible story, let's get back on topic.
They are all terrible things done by terrible people. A cogent strategy about immigration reform has little to do with the rare case of a bad hombre doing bad things. That’s not a real reason for immigration reform because the goal of immigration reform isn’t to “keep out bad hombres”. We need a rational system to allow people into the country lawfully and a system to facilitate productive participation in our system. Get them on the payroll instead of under the table. So, people that come in the country legally don’t murder people? It’s silly and stupid and the only point it serves is to motivate you to vote for someone that claims they are going to fix it. The Trump administration controlled the executive branch, congress and the senate during his first two years. Got tax reform done without a single democrat voting for it and why didn’t immigration reform get passed? He ran on it? It didn’t get passed because it would be one less thing to motivate people like you to vote.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:33 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:20 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/17/us/louis ... index.html

This is how we like our killers and rapist.
Terrible story, let's get back on topic.
They are all terrible things done by terrible people. A cogent strategy about immigration reform has little to do with the rare case of a bad hombre doing bad things. That’s not a real reason for immigration reform because the goal of immigration reform isn’t to “keep out bad hombres”. We need a rational system to allow people into the country lawfully and a system to facilitate productive participation in our system. Get them on the payroll instead of under the table. So, people that come in the country legally don’t murder people? It’s silly and stupid and the only point it serves is to motivate you to vote for someone that claims they are going to fix it. The Trump administration controlled the executive branch, congress and the senate during his first two years. Got tax reform done without a single democrat voting for it and why didn’t immigration reform get passed? He ran on it? It didn’t get passed because it would be one less thing to motivate people like you to vote.
Not quite. Cheap, disenfranchised labor is and has always been the grease that makes the wheels of industry spin freely…

Trump, hell, all politicians know who they serve, and it sure as hlel isn’t the hoi polloi.
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PizzaSnake wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:41 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:33 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:20 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:33 am https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/17/us/louis ... index.html

This is how we like our killers and rapist.
Terrible story, let's get back on topic.
They are all terrible things done by terrible people. A cogent strategy about immigration reform has little to do with the rare case of a bad hombre doing bad things. That’s not a real reason for immigration reform because the goal of immigration reform isn’t to “keep out bad hombres”. We need a rational system to allow people into the country lawfully and a system to facilitate productive participation in our system. Get them on the payroll instead of under the table. So, people that come in the country legally don’t murder people? It’s silly and stupid and the only point it serves is to motivate you to vote for someone that claims they are going to fix it. The Trump administration controlled the executive branch, congress and the senate during his first two years. Got tax reform done without a single democrat voting for it and why didn’t immigration reform get passed? He ran on it? It didn’t get passed because it would be one less thing to motivate people like you to vote.
Not quite. Cheap, disenfranchised labor is and has always been the grease that makes the wheels of industry spin freely…

Trump, hell, all politicians know who they serve, and it sure as hlel isn’t the hoi polloi.
This is why nothing has been done.
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