Teams that will suffer important loss of seniors for next season

[laxlaxlax]

Yes Yale only loses one starter for next year and won't be going to the portal. Penn could be a different story.

I think Penn has 13 seniors this year many of whom were starters so yes they could definitely be a team that is impacted.

Yale’s problem will be at the end of next year when they have 16 or 17 in that graduating class but should be good for next season.

[WashedUpLaxDad]

The top programs will be looking hard at the transfer portal. Just so many high level players leaving the sport. It's basically the 2020 and 2019 high school graduates leaving in 1 year. A large % of the high level 2019's used that extra year as well as a few top 2018's. It all added up to a big number of women that played a ton of minutes this year. IF UNC could use a couple defenders, every top 30 team is looking to fill some holes.

The portal isn't going to be what it's been the last few years though. With the Covid years over for the most part, other than players looking for a change of scenery, most the proven transfers this offseason will be from the Ivies. One of Penn's top players is going to NU next year. Now how that happened over a month ago prior to the portal opening is another question, but we all know there's tampering.

A lot of the transfers that will be available are players that committed to top 10-20 programs that aren't seeing the field. Those are lottery tickets in a lot of cases because you just don't know what you're getting. There will always be a few Rachel Clark and Emma LoPinto kind of players that have a specific reason for transferring but I don't think we'll see as many impact transfers as we've seen the last few years.

It's not tampering if it is done through a club coach, which is what is happening for many of these transfers.

Ha. Yeah, that's not allowed. I'm fully aware that's what's done. The rule specifically states that there cannot be any contact with another coach, either directly or indirectly, prior to the athlete entering the transfer portal.

Regardless of allowed or not its very commonplace now. However, I think club coaches are starting to get a bit more selective in how they help. I know one big time club owner who has gotten blacklisted from a big school due to helping some former players transfer out.

[hmmm]

The top programs will be looking hard at the transfer portal. Just so many high level players leaving the sport. It's basically the 2020 and 2019 high school graduates leaving in 1 year. A large % of the high level 2019's used that extra year as well as a few top 2018's. It all added up to a big number of women that played a ton of minutes this year. IF UNC could use a couple defenders, every top 30 team is looking to fill some holes.

The portal isn't going to be what it's been the last few years though. With the Covid years over for the most part, other than players looking for a change of scenery, most the proven transfers this offseason will be from the Ivies. One of Penn's top players is going to NU next year. Now how that happened over a month ago prior to the portal opening is another question, but we all know there's tampering.

A lot of the transfers that will be available are players that committed to top 10-20 programs that aren't seeing the field. Those are lottery tickets in a lot of cases because you just don't know what you're getting. There will always be a few Rachel Clark and Emma LoPinto kind of players that have a specific reason for transferring but I don't think we'll see as many impact transfers as we've seen the last few years.

It's not tampering if it is done through a club coach, which is what is happening for many of these transfers.

Ha. Yeah, that's not allowed. I'm fully aware that's what's done. The rule specifically states that there cannot be any contact with another coach, either directly or indirectly, prior to the athlete entering the transfer portal.

Regardless of allowed or not its very commonplace now. However, I think club coaches are starting to get a bit more selective in how they help. I know one big time club owner who has gotten blacklisted from a big school due to helping some former players transfer out.

Like I said, I'm fully aware that's what is being done. My response was to you saying it's not tampering if it's done through a club coach. It 100% is tampering. Some are even open about it. Nick Saban when doing draft coverage that they tried like hell to get a kid that got drafted this year to go into the portal and come to Alabama and he refused. I'm sure Saban obviously wouldn't have admitted that if he was still the coach at Alabama.

[WLAXFAN778899]

Grad student transfers can go in the portal at any time, speaking about the Ivy transfers that have been known for months. Totally legal

[LaxDadMax]

The top programs will be looking hard at the transfer portal. Just so many high level players leaving the sport. It's basically the 2020 and 2019 high school graduates leaving in 1 year. A large % of the high level 2019's used that extra year as well as a few top 2018's. It all added up to a big number of women that played a ton of minutes this year. IF UNC could use a couple defenders, every top 30 team is looking to fill some holes.

The portal isn't going to be what it's been the last few years though. With the Covid years over for the most part, other than players looking for a change of scenery, most the proven transfers this offseason will be from the Ivies. One of Penn's top players is going to NU next year. Now how that happened over a month ago prior to the portal opening is another question, but we all know there's tampering.

A lot of the transfers that will be available are players that committed to top 10-20 programs that aren't seeing the field. Those are lottery tickets in a lot of cases because you just don't know what you're getting. There will always be a few Rachel Clark and Emma LoPinto kind of players that have a specific reason for transferring but I don't think we'll see as many impact transfers as we've seen the last few years.

It's not tampering if it is done through a club coach, which is what is happening for many of these transfers.

Ha. Yeah, that's not allowed. I'm fully aware that's what's done. The rule specifically states that there cannot be any contact with another coach, either directly or indirectly, prior to the athlete entering the transfer portal.

I'm very familiar on this topic. A player cannot direct a club coach to reach out to a specific school of their behalf. They can ask a club coach to put out feelers and let them know that a player is considering joining the portal and seeing where there could be mutual interest. Similar to high school recruiting, a school can't make an offer just say whether there may be interest.

Also, if a school has already communicated that athletic aid may be changed, then all bets are off and you can enter portal at any time.

[livelovelax]

JMU loses quite a bit in the way of senior starters.
Offensively: Bella Peterson, Kaitlyn Morgan, Kacey Knobloch.
Midfield Taylor Marchetti.
Defense: Alex and Lizzy Pirisino, Nikki Marshall.

JMU will be down for sure but they always find a way as they have some solid players back and are recruiting well. Epke, Mattis, Derey, Thistewaite, Pell, Savage and Bleckley return, all of which got quality minutes. And all three goalies return.

[livelovelax]

Middy: Maggie Clarke too!

[gbswingames]

The top programs will be looking hard at the transfer portal. Just so many high level players leaving the sport. It's basically the 2020 and 2019 high school graduates leaving in 1 year. A large % of the high level 2019's used that extra year as well as a few top 2018's. It all added up to a big number of women that played a ton of minutes this year. IF UNC could use a couple defenders, every top 30 team is looking to fill some holes.

The portal isn't going to be what it's been the last few years though. With the Covid years over for the most part, other than players looking for a change of scenery, most the proven transfers this offseason will be from the Ivies. One of Penn's top players is going to NU next year. Now how that happened over a month ago prior to the portal opening is another question, but we all know there's tampering.

A lot of the transfers that will be available are players that committed to top 10-20 programs that aren't seeing the field. Those are lottery tickets in a lot of cases because you just don't know what you're getting. There will always be a few Rachel Clark and Emma LoPinto kind of players that have a specific reason for transferring but I don't think we'll see as many impact transfers as we've seen the last few years.

Agree with all, but not so sure about many impact transfers? A lot of schools losing a lot, BC included. Take Epke from JMU. Is she closer to winning a natty next year than this past year? Would she have a better chance at winning that trophy with BC? With Martello being one of BC’s big losses. To me she would fill in Martello’s spot very nicely. Plus she can do the draw. I think like Clarke and Lopinto of this past year, this is going to be the new normal in attempt to get a national championship.

[Lax101]

You need to look beyond BC attack. BC losses 8 starters, 4 of which are AA. Martello could/should have been 5th AA. Lots of shoes to fill.

[2004wrongisland]

You need to look beyond BC attack. BC losses 8 starters, 4 of which are AA. Martello could/should have been 5th AA. Lots of shoes to fill.

Like many teams, they have lost a lot of talent . But, at least offensively, no other team has the returning offensive firepower that they do. Returner Mckenna Davis led the country in assists, returner Rachel Clark finished 4th in the country with 78 goals despite missing a game and Emma Lopinto had the 14th highest goal total among all returning players.

[gbswingames]

You need to look beyond BC attack. BC losses 8 starters, 4 of which are AA. Martello could/should have been 5th AA. Lots of shoes to fill.

Like many teams, they have lost a lot of talent . But, at least offensively, no other team has the returning offensive firepower that they do. Returner Mckenna Davis led the country in assists, returner Rachel Clark finished 4th in the country with 78 goals despite missing a game and Emma Lopinto had the 14th highest goal total among all returning players.

And like lax101 said, lots of shoes to fill, ageed. But with one of the best attack groups returning, if you were a
midfielder or defender on a team ranked 10-20, why wouldn’t you want to transfer to BC?

[Womenslaxxfan]

You need to look beyond BC attack. BC losses 8 starters, 4 of which are AA. Martello could/should have been 5th AA. Lots of shoes to fill.

Like many teams, they have lost a lot of talent . But, at least offensively, no other team has the returning offensive firepower that they do. Returner Mckenna Davis led the country in assists, returner Rachel Clark finished 4th in the country with 78 goals despite missing a game and Emma Lopinto had the 14th highest goal total among all returning players.

And like lax101 said, lots of shoes to fill, ageed. But with one of the best attack groups returning, if you were a
midfielder or defender on a team ranked 10-20, why wouldn’t you want to transfer to BC?

Maybe because you love your teammates and your school?
My eldest daughter, who was a multi year starter at a top 10-15 program wouldn’t have transferred to bc or unc in a million years because she was happy where she was.
For every rachel Clark or Emma lopinto (undergraduate transfers), there are 100 excellent players who choose to stay where they are.

If Maddie epke went to jmu with the express goal of winning a national championship, neither she or her parents are all that lacrosse savvy….because JMU has one exactly one national championship in the history of the program….

[Womenslaxxfan]

You need to look beyond BC attack. BC losses 8 starters, 4 of which are AA. Martello could/should have been 5th AA. Lots of shoes to fill.

Like many teams, they have lost a lot of talent . But, at least offensively, no other team has the returning offensive firepower that they do. Returner Mckenna Davis led the country in assists, returner Rachel Clark finished 4th in the country with 78 goals despite missing a game and Emma Lopinto had the 14th highest goal total among all returning players.

And like lax101 said, lots of shoes to fill, ageed. But with one of the best attack groups returning, if you were a
midfielder or defender on a team ranked 10-20, why wouldn’t you want to transfer to BC?

Maybe because you love your teammates and your school?
My eldest daughter, who was a multi year starter at a top 10-15 program wouldn’t have transferred to bc or unc in a million years because she was happy where she was.
For every rachel Clark or Emma lopinto (undergraduate transfers), there are 100 excellent players who choose to stay where they are.

If Maddie epke went to jmu with the express goal of winning a national championship, neither she or her parents are all that lacrosse savvy….because JMU has one exactly one national championship in the history of the program….

Sorry. Didn’t mean to call out any particularly player and that was in response to another post.
My apologies. She’s a great player and probably can’t wait to lead her teammates at jmu next year.

[user1020]

You need to look beyond BC attack. BC losses 8 starters, 4 of which are AA. Martello could/should have been 5th AA. Lots of shoes to fill.

Like many teams, they have lost a lot of talent . But, at least offensively, no other team has the returning offensive firepower that they do. Returner Mckenna Davis led the country in assists, returner Rachel Clark finished 4th in the country with 78 goals despite missing a game and Emma Lopinto had the 14th highest goal total among all returning players.

I agree. BC loses a lot of talent and a lot of experience on this team with most players having large contributions since their freshman year. However, BC has a few players that are poised to step into a starting position. Colasante got a lot of good minutes on defense. Driscoll played in every game on attack. Baker played in each game and started in games towards the end. I’m interested to see if they will use her defensively or in the midfield since they are losing their entire midfield. Herod on the draw most likely.

[Lax101]

Fair points about BC and they have Dolce back but it is grit, defense and on field leadership that ultimately determines a teams success, not offense. Will be interesting to see if BC can stay at the top of the mountain. IMO they will need some more excellent transfers to do so.

[2004wrongisland]

Fair points about BC and they have Dolce back but it is grit, defense and on field leadership that ultimately determines a teams success, not offense. Will be interesting to see if BC can stay at the top of the mountain. IMO they will need some more excellent transfers to do so.

This year's team stats indicate otherwise.

The top 6 teams in scoring defense were , in order, Michigan. Stony Brook, Yale, BC, Fairfield and Loyola. One of the top 6 defensive teams made the Final Four.

The top 6 teams in scoring offense were Florida, Northwestern , Notre Dame ,Mercer, Brown and BC. Three of the top 6 offensive teams made the Final Four.

The takeaway is that offense is probably more important but having a top offense and defense wins National Championships. BC is the only team in the top 6 of both offense and defense.

[watcherinthewoods]

You need to look beyond BC attack. BC losses 8 starters, 4 of which are AA. Martello could/should have been 5th AA. Lots of shoes to fill.

Like many teams, they have lost a lot of talent . But, at least offensively, no other team has the returning offensive firepower that they do. Returner Mckenna Davis led the country in assists, returner Rachel Clark finished 4th in the country with 78 goals despite missing a game and Emma Lopinto had the 14th highest goal total among all returning players.

And like lax101 said, lots of shoes to fill, ageed. But with one of the best attack groups returning, if you were a
midfielder or defender on a team ranked 10-20, why wouldn’t you want to transfer to BC?

Maybe because you love your teammates and your school?
My eldest daughter, who was a multi year starter at a top 10-15 program wouldn’t have transferred to bc or unc in a million years because she was happy where she was.
For every rachel Clark or Emma lopinto (undergraduate transfers), there are 100 excellent players who choose to stay where they are.

Count my daughter in that mix ^^^ but she was lucky to have a great match school-wise. Different kids have different situations and different priorities, clearly.

[tothedraw]

Correct me if I'm wrong, NU is losing 10-11 "starters"
Laliberty, Gillespie, Mahoney, Halpern, Holmes, Frank, Hansen, Schumar, Amonte, Coykendall, Scane.
That seems pretty significant.

[WashedUpLaxDad]

Correct me if I'm wrong, NU is losing 10-11 "starters"
Laliberty, Gillespie, Mahoney, Halpern, Holmes, Frank, Hansen, Schumar, Amonte, Coykendall, Scane.
That seems pretty significant.

Sounds right though holmes didn't feature as much in the business end of season. Given all the covid extra years, many other clubs are in same situation.

Remember NW also returns

Taylor
White
S. Smith
M. Smith
Bohlig

Name a team than than Cuse or BC who returns a better top 5.

Didn't even mention the U20 national team goalie.

I agree they may have some growing pain, but I would bet a decent amount of $$ that NW makes the final four next year.

[2004wrongisland]

Correct me if I'm wrong, NU is losing 10-11 "starters"
Laliberty, Gillespie, Mahoney, Halpern, Holmes, Frank, Hansen, Schumar, Amonte, Coykendall, Scane.
That seems pretty significant.

Sounds right though holmes didn't feature as much in the business end of season. Given all the covid extra years, many other clubs are in same situation.

Remember NW also returns
White ( D- likely to be an AA )
Taylor ( 83 g, 33a, 116 points )
S. Smith (13 g, 6 a)
M. Smith (1 assist)
Bohlig (12 g 2 a)

Name a team than than Cuse or BC who returns a better top 5.

Didn't even mention the U20 national team goalie.

I agree they may have some growing pain, but I would bet a decent amount of $$ that NW makes the final four next year.

Maybe UNC

Brooklyn Walker-Welch ( D-who will likely be a First Team AA)
Ashley Humphrey ( who led the country with 88 assists in 2022 )
Chloe Humphrey ( if you've watched her play, you know)
Marissa White ( scored 46 goals to lead team as freshman)
Caroline Godine ( who's averaged about 30 goals a year)

I think the defenders are close but I'd rather have BWW. Taylor is the best player on either team but I'd rather have UNC's 3,4 and 5. Plus way more offensive depth and talent and likely way better recruits.