Does Duke offer a business major? Do they have a large student body? Sure they have DI sports, but similar enough as Durham isn't a top tier city either.coda wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:03 pmI said most of these kids are business majors and Hopkins isn’t a top business school. If they are into Medical or Engineering, then Hopkins is an amazing school.norcalhop wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:50 pmHopkins has already won multiple recruits over UVa and other ACC schools on its roster. If you don't think Hopkins offers a better education with higher desirability than UVa which has a lower yield and entering freshman stats despite cheaper instate tuition, I don't know what to tell you. Lacrosse players here major in Econ which more than enough for Wall Street and its ilk.coda wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:43 pmMost these kids are business majors and Hopkins isn’t a better education. The campus is far from a positive. Small school aspect will turn some kids away. Same goes for the neighborhood. Hopkins is still in the show me phase. Recruits today haven’t seen Hopkins with top lacrosse program. Hopkins has been mediocre the majority of their livesnorcalhop wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:35 pmA better education? Small class sizes? Lax as the top sport on campus? Stanwicks came here for a reason.coda wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:22 pmPrinceton has done very well.. they are the kings in the IVy in recruiting. Selling that Ivy education and a nice campus. Yale hasn’t done much and been more successful. Cornell is the same. Maryland has seemed to trail off and they have been arguably the best program in lacrosse the last decade. That’s 2 schools. Look at UNC. Whose coach has been rumored to be on the verge of losing his job the last 2 years.. They still kill it. That doesn’t happen in any other conference. Honestly, what’s the pitch for Hopkins over a school like UVA?norcalhop wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:15 pmTake a look at Maryland and Ivies. Hopkins was landing 5 stars with regularity without winning just a few years ago - no reason why it can't reverse the trend.coda wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:12 pmIt’s not that easy. Denver won a NC and it never translated. OSU went to the final 4 (back to back year if I remember correctly) and the 5 stars still went to the ACC. PSU didn’t get much follow through. Right now the majority of top recruits have the ACC tattood on their minds. Nobody in lacrosse has seemed to come up with a sales pitch to counter the ACC.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... and/4/2024
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... on/32/2024
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... on/32/2023
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... list/62256
Take a look at that - it shows very strong school and conference distribution. Does 5 star translate to auto success? Ofcourse not - Duke missed the tournament 2 years ago. UNC is a story on repeat.
However with the right coaching staff, 5 stars mean probabilistically better talent. Take a look at the All American list, I'd dare say the majority are 5 stars with O'Neill, Shellenberger, Kirst, etc.
Hopkins has had losing seasons, and mediocrity recently. Then again, it landed Scott Smith, Casey McDermott, and Brendan Grimes (all with ACC offers) in the same year: https://www.insidelacrosse.com/team/commits/jhu/2020 during a dark period.
I don't get your point.
My point is it takes more than a single year to garner recruiting success. Hopkins isn’t the program you grew up watching. Milkman didn’t inherit NC caliber teams to pad his resume. He isn’t a lacrosse legend like Petro was. They will get some kids based on location and history, but overall they are getting their lunch taken by better programs (namely UVA).
Again, Hopkins has shown it can out recruit UVa and beat them on the field with lesser talent. With some modicum of recent success, there's no reason why Milliman can't start winning his fair share of recruits.
I was offered the Jefferson scholarship at UVa. I declined politely. As for growing up watching Hopkins, there's a strong probability, I'm younger than most in this forum. I certainly didn't grow up watching this team in the early 2000s, let alone the 80s and 70s where it may have had more prowess.