2024 HS season

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ertrader wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:53 pm I was bouncing between games so I dont know exact scores but:

Sacred Heart LI beat Ridgewood in 3OT
ESM beat Nyack by a couple goals (big upset I believe?)
Suffern beat Massapequa by a bunch
Darien beat Manhasset by quite a bit - Manhasset dealing with injuries
New Canaan beat Ward Melville not particularly close
Wilton over West Islip by 3
Manhasset lost two top contributors to knee injuries. Definitely a bit wounded right now.

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Wilton 9 Darien 8 FINAL.

WOW.

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Wow indeed.

Edit to add video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EMUcZ26L5k
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New Canaan vs. Wilton @6pm today. I still think NC is the best team in CT, but Wilton has the hot hand beating Darien and Ridgefield in the last week. This is a pick'em, maybe a slight edge to the Warriors playing at home.
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13-4 Rams. New Canaan blew it open in the second half. CeCe Patterson is a phenomenal goalie and the NC D was relentless and physical. Best team in CT right now hands down.
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St Anthony's 11 Manhasset 7 Final.

Indians played them very close. Was 10-3 at one point, then Indians dominated the rest of the way but simply ran out of time. Friars are that good. They only need one run to put most if not all teams away .

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St. Paul’s School for Girls upsets McDonogh to win the IAAM A title.

Although the season isn’t over yet, it sure looks like St. Anthony’s will end up national number one this year, the first such title for the Friars.
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Big upset in Northern New Jersey, Bergen County!!! Immaculate Heart Academy, Township of Washington beat Ridgewood High School in the County final. First Bergen County Team to beat them since 1995 and first team ever to beat them in the county tournament since its inception 17 years ago! IHA took them to the wire yesterday in regular season play losing by 1 in the last few seconds!
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Big upset indeed. To add to the intrigue, Ridgewood is coached by the husband and IHA is coached by his wife!

Saw the Maroons in the preseason, but not since. Will see them tomorrow against Oak Knoll.
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I attended the county final - it was a battle! The maroons are young, def a different team than seasons before..Dynasty no more!
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CT states starts today. Somehow Darien is the one seed in LL, yet they are two in the computer, lost in the FCIAC finals to the two seed, have a worse overall record than the two seed, and lost in the regular season to the three seed. NC should be the one seed by all accounts. Does it matter, probably not, but NC's road is notably more difficult having to play Wilton and not Ridgefield in the semis.
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Mike75 wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 2:41 pm CT states starts today. Somehow Darien is the one seed in LL, yet they are two in the computer, lost in the FCIAC finals to the two seed, have a worse overall record than the two seed, and lost in the regular season to the three seed. NC should be the one seed by all accounts. Does it matter, probably not, but NC's road is notably more difficult having to play Wilton and not Ridgefield in the semis.
I cannot figure out HOW the CIAC made Darien the #1 seed and New Canaan #2. There's no rationale that makes logical or numerical sense.
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NutmegCrunch wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 9:29 am
Mike75 wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 2:41 pm CT states starts today. Somehow Darien is the one seed in LL, yet they are two in the computer, lost in the FCIAC finals to the two seed, have a worse overall record than the two seed, and lost in the regular season to the three seed. NC should be the one seed by all accounts. Does it matter, probably not, but NC's road is notably more difficult having to play Wilton and not Ridgefield in the semis.
I cannot figure out HOW the CIAC made Darien the #1 seed and New Canaan #2. There's no rationale that makes logical or numerical sense.
Lax Numbers had them as #1 at the time of the seeding meeting last week. At that time - Darien had three regular game scores removed (against non-NFHS opponents - 2 wins and one loss) and the FCIAC tournament results were not included in that calculation at that time.
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I appreciate that Laxnumbers has tried to replicate the Laxpower ranking (they called it "rating") system, but they don't do nearly as good a job. Laxpower tweaked its process over the years and even included human adjustments at times. Using humans seemed counterintuitive to the idea of having a dispassionate unbiased computer do the work, but it was necessary because the computer would get things out of whack. (Take that AI!)

NJ also uses Laxnumbers to seed our playoffs. But we have a "leap frog" rule that allows a lower ranked team to jump over the team immediately above them if they beat them in the regular season. Just looked at the NJ rankings. Having seen all of the top teams multiple times, I think the rankings are wrong. But better than nothing.

On a national level, St. Anthony's at no. 7 is just wrong. Should be no. 1.
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Some state title game scores:

In CT:

New Canaan 10 Darien 5

In NJ:

Group 4 Morristown 10 Kingsway 6
Group 3 Chatham 9 Moorestown 8 3OT
Group 2 Summit 13 Haddonfield 8
Group 1 Glen Ridge 9 Mt. Lakes 8
Non-Public A Oak Knoll 14 Pingry 11
Non-Public B Montclair Kimberley 13 Holy Spirit 11
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njbill wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 4:55 pm Some state title game scores:

In CT:

New Canaan 10 Darien 5

In NJ:

Group 4 Morristown 10 Kingsway 6
Group 3 Chatham 9 Moorestown 8 3OT
Group 2 Summit 13 Haddonfield 8
Group 1 Glen Ridge 9 Mt. Lakes 8
Non-Public A Oak Knoll 14 Pingry 11
Non-Public B Montclair Kimberley 13 Holy Spirit 11
Jeez, that Chatham/Moorestown game must have been epic. Were you there?

Apparently we can watch the replay:

https://highschoolsports.nj.com/watch/43515
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Yes. Epic is perhaps a word Chatham would use, but not Moorestown. More like crushing from the Quaker perspective. Chatham never had a lead in the game until they scored the game winner with 20 seconds to go in the third overtime. We had four very good shots, one at the very end of regulation and three during overtime, that would have won the game for us had they gone in.

We had a two goal lead and the ball with 3:30 to go and were successfully killing the clock. We took an ill-advised shot, Chatham got the ball, and then scored twice within 30 seconds to tie the game with 2 mins to go. Still, we had the ball at the end of regulation (17 secs) with an excellent chance to win. 8m FP, good hash. But the shot, while on cage, was not to a good location and the goalie made a pressure save.

I have rewatched the game three times (nj.com video and our sideline and end zone films). Unfortunately, the result is the same each time.

The teams have played in the State Group 3 final three of the last four years. Moorestown won a one goal game in 2021. Chatham won overtime games in 2022 and 2024.
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njbill wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:16 am Yes. Epic is perhaps a word Chatham would use, but not Moorestown. More like crushing from the Quaker perspective. Chatham never had a lead in the game until they scored the game winner with 20 seconds to go in the third overtime. We had four very good shots, one at the very end of regulation and three during overtime, that would have won the game for us had they gone in.

We had a two goal lead and the ball with 3:30 to go and were successfully killing the clock. We took an ill-advised shot, Chatham got the ball, and then scored twice within 30 seconds to tie the game with 2 mins to go. Still, we had the ball at the end of regulation (17 secs) with an excellent chance to win. 8m FP, good hash. But the shot, while on cage, was not to a good location and the goalie made a pressure save.

I have rewatched the game three times (nj.com video and our sideline and end zone films). Unfortunately, the result is the same each time.

The teams have played in the State Group 3 final three of the last four years. Moorestown won a one goal game in 2021. Chatham won overtime games in 2022 and 2024.
I watched the video from the beginning of the 4th quarter on til the end. I was watching, and at 8-6, Moorestown takes the draw and has the ball and I am asking myself, "how does Moorestown lose this?" Brutal. So many good chances for your Quakers. Sorry; I know how hard you root for your hometown team.
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Thanks. I’ve watched the end of the game too many times to admit in public. :oops:

Credit to the Chatham goalie who played very well at the end of regulation and in overtime. Not happy with the Quaker shot selection. The goalie is 5’3’’. Would have liked to have seen some high shots mixed in.

Ironically, on this very same field during the regular season against Hunterdon Central we had a one goal lead with the ball in our end with 50 seconds to go. Our player slipped and lost the ball. HC then scored two goals in 30 seconds to win the game.

Saturday was not a good day for South Jersey. Kingsway and Haddonfield also lost. The only “South Jersey” team to win was Glen Ridge. Glen Ridge in South Jersey? Yes, according to the NJSIAA geographers. Actually, there is a logical reason for that, but I just like to give the NJSIAA grief whenever I have a chance.
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njbill wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:26 pm Thanks. I’ve watched the end of the game too many times to admit in public. :oops:

Credit to the Chatham goalie who played very well at the end of regulation and in overtime. Not happy with the Quaker shot selection. The goalie is 5’3’’. Would have liked to have seen some high shots mixed in.

Ironically, on this very same field during the regular season against Hunterdon Central we had a one goal lead with the ball in our end with 50 seconds to go. Our player slipped and lost the ball. HC then scored two goals in 30 seconds to win the game.

Saturday was not a good day for South Jersey. Kingsway and Haddonfield also lost. The only “South Jersey” team to win was Glen Ridge. Glen Ridge in South Jersey? Yes, according to the NJSIAA geographers. Actually, there is a logical reason for that, but I just like to give the NJSIAA grief whenever I have a chance.
what is the logical reason - Glen Ridge in in Essex County well north of Newark??????
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