I’m pretty sure Southwestern is moving to the SAA in all sports. Colorado college as a D3 institution is on such an island I don’t really know who would take them. The expenses for anyone to play a game there in any sport are so extreme I can’t imagine a conference signing on for that.balderdash wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:27 pm
tough to see the tigers and pirates floating out as independents.
Feel like both schools will have a hard time finding a path to NCAA's now. Wonder if either school is considering a divisional reclassification? Both programs are on quite the island, especially moving forward without Whittier.
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Yes as I have stated earlier, WWC will be joining FT next season. It’s a beautiful campus, just watch out for bears.
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This was shot down a while back, did they bring it up again this year? USA South will eventually be going to a split conference, east and west I believe so the idea may not be dead. You would have to think most of the current conference members would be against this as in the past simply due to travel costs. The current members just don’t have the budget to travel like that for conference games. Is it does go through I would imagine those teams will be operating on a “skin and bones” budget. IMO ultimately hurting recruiting and setting the current members back years.balderdash wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:27 pm Reviving this thread as the alignments were posted:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/champi ... gnment.pdf
Guess the USA South absorption didn't pan out.
tough to see the tigers and pirates floating out as independents.
Feel like both schools will have a hard time finding a path to NCAA's now. Wonder if either school is considering a divisional reclassification? Both programs are on quite the island, especially moving forward without Whittier.
Also shocked to see the c2c took WWC. No disrespect, but not sure how the other C2C programs/coaches would/could even approach that game on the schedule
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Hopefully the game will be NJ.River Donkey wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:49 pmYes as I have stated earlier, WWC will be joining FT next season. It’s a beautiful campus, just watch out for bears.
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Unfortunately, Northwestern (MN) is terminating their lacrosse program after this season. MLC down to 4 schools and at risk to lose their AQ unless they pick up another member. Beloit is an affiliate in the NACC so maybe they can be convinced to move conferences. Otherwise there could be a lot of independents and a big shakeup in the Midwest.
https://x.com/UNW_Lacrosse/status/17571 ... 54227?s=20
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The MLC, at least for men, may not exist much longer. Cornell College, Lake Forest College, Univ. of Dubuque will be moving to the NACC in men's lacrosse in 2024-25:
https://naccsports.org/news/2024/4/17/m ... iates.aspx
This will be in addition to Lawrence University's new men and women's lacrosse programs.
https://naccsports.org/news/2024/4/17/m ... iates.aspx
This will be in addition to Lawrence University's new men and women's lacrosse programs.
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d3maxlax wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:38 am The MLC, at least for men, may not exist much longer. Cornell College, Lake Forest College, Univ. of Dubuque will be moving to the NACC in men's lacrosse in 2024-25:
https://naccsports.org/news/2024/4/17/m ... iates.aspx
This will be in addition to Lawrence University's new men and women's lacrosse programs.
Wow! 13 teams! Not sure that is sustainable.
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NACC 2025laxfan13 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:41 pmd3maxlax wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:38 am The MLC, at least for men, may not exist much longer. Cornell College, Lake Forest College, Univ. of Dubuque will be moving to the NACC in men's lacrosse in 2024-25:
https://naccsports.org/news/2024/4/17/m ... iates.aspx
This will be in addition to Lawrence University's new men and women's lacrosse programs.
Wow! 13 teams! Not sure that is sustainable.
1. Aurora University
2. Beloit College
3. Benedictine University
4. Concordia University Chicago
5. Concordia University Wisconsin
6. Cornell College
7. Edgewood College
8. Illinois Institute of Technology
9. Lake Forest College
10. Lawrence University
11. Marian University
12. Milwaukee School of Engineering
13. University of Dubuque
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Lake Forest will win the NACC in 2025. Returning all players
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I haven’t seen this reported in this thread yet, but SUNY Canton & SUNY Morrisville will be replacing Genny/Brockport as the members of the SUNYACs goin forward. Unless recruiting steps up at those institutions and Platty/New Paltz start delivering on LI recruiting again it’s going to be a pretty lopsided league for Cortland to take. Hoping Potsdam, Oneonta, and Oswego can continue their push in closing the gap on C-state.
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With all this talk about Kean job and the C2C being owned by sU and CNU , why would Kean, Stockton, Montclair agree to be in this conference?
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I've always wondered the same. The United East has been the worst example, but there are definitely others. At least from the outside, it's hard for me to see the motivation.
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With the Skyline and the CSAC in their rearview mirror, there weren't a ton of options for the Jersey schools to join, especially with the NJAC not having/sponsoring a Mens Lacrosse Conference
First of all, ya better check your tone. I dont think you know who you're talking to. I'm Leonard Washington...I don't get butt naked for nobody!!
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When the rest of your athletic department is in a conference that does not sponsor your sport, your options become very limited.Leonard Washington wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:04 amWith the Skyline and the CSAC in their rearview mirror, there weren't a ton of options for the Jersey schools to join, especially with the NJAC not having/sponsoring a Mens Lacrosse Conference
It's not just about finding a good fit for your team, you need to find a conference that sees value in adding you as an associate member. Your AD will need to convince the schools in that conference, why they should add you for a single sport. They'll need to show the Presidents and AD's data that shows how the added costs of traveling to play you will somehow benefit their schools.
In some rare cases that benefit comes by simply helping a conference go from from an odd number of teams to an even number for ease of scheduling. Sometimes there's a quid pro quo that creates an affiliate relationships between conferences: we'll take your 3 lacrosse schools if you take our 3 field hockey schools.
In most cases, the only thing the schools seeking affiliate membership can actually offer an established conference is numbers to help AQ status. I believe this was the case with the C2C adding the New Jersey lacrosse schools.
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I understand that’s what they did, I just don’t know why the didn’t stay independent and not give the AQ to SU or CNU. I also think those 3 schools should split up and go into different conferences. Like (MAC, Skyline, United…etc). The Kean job if FT and in different conference would attract a much better pool. But if they go PT that would be bad for the Kean program.In most cases, the only thing the schools seeking affiliate membership can actually offer an established conference is numbers to help AQ status. I believe this was the case with the C2C adding the New Jersey lacrosse schools.
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There were/are no conferences to go to. It’s not as easy as you think.laxrules wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:16 pmI understand that’s what they did, I just don’t know why the didn’t stay independent and not give the AQ to SU or CNU. I also think those 3 schools should split up and go into different conferences. Like (MAC, Skyline, United…etc). The Kean job if FT and in different conference would attract a much better pool. But if they go PT that would be bad for the Kean program.In most cases, the only thing the schools seeking affiliate membership can actually offer an established conference is numbers to help AQ status. I believe this was the case with the C2C adding the New Jersey lacrosse schools.
Kean is and always has been P/T.
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Hawley was FT many years ago.
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The girls coach is full-time.
They really should make the job FT or they are sending a bad message. Why get rid of the coach if they will keep it PT!?