Recruiting

[intheknow247]

Poaching season starts Saturday.

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First major summer club tourney-- Live Love Lax . He is implying some coaches will be approaching committed 25s.

Ahhh..well my kid falls in that camp. Never crossed my mind. I'll check back in Monday lol.

From my experiences, its rare for a coach to directly go to a player unless there was a strong pre-existing relationship. Usually funneled through a coach or other intermediary.

Also, next weekend, 100% of D1 coaches will be watching 26s, not 25s.

Yeah...that's not true, at all. Plenty of staffs will still be filling their 2025 class in the D1 level.

[tothedraw]

PSU out of state is 50k. MSU and OSU are 37-42k respectively. BC/NU 65ish.

I wouldn't call PSU tuition low. Lol.

I didn't know out of state was that high, I went there in-state. Now, the In state $ is about 20k/year which is really good for a well known school with a big alumni network.

I'm paying it as a now out of state parent but grew up in PA, painful.

It's an awesome place to go to school, highly regarded business program, alum network. They should do better with recruiting the in state talent, there is plenty. Within very close proximity to NJ, MD and Western/Central NY hot beds. Really no excuse why they aren't dominant, if you ask me.

[Relax77]

PSU out of state is 50k. MSU and OSU are 37-42k respectively. BC/NU 65ish.

I wouldn't call PSU tuition low. Lol.

I didn't know out of state was that high, I went there in-state. Now, the In state $ is about 20k/year which is really good for a well known school with a big alumni network.

I'm paying it as a now out of state parent but grew up in PA, painful.

It's an awesome place to go to school, highly regarded business program, alum network. They should do better with recruiting the in state talent, there is plenty. Within very close proximity to NJ, MD and Western/Central NY hot beds. Really no excuse why they aren't dominant, if you ask me.

I have my reasons why but I must remain quiet. There may be a fan of the team or coach who threatens to out my daughter.

[Relax77]

[Deacon022]

Poaching season starts Saturday.

???

First major summer club tourney-- Live Love Lax . He is implying some coaches will be approaching committed 25s.

Sorry Spidey. Yes colleges start watching some of the 2025s that may have been interested in September but they lost out on them because the player committed before the coach’s lists shook out.
No I don’t think they approach the kids. From what I’ve heard, they send the parents and get the club coaches involved. It’s probably an urban legend.

[LiveLaxLove]

Here’s a question that I am not sure anyone has had experience with. My daughter has been getting hits on her still active sports recruit page the last week. Two top 30 teams multiple times. She’s been committed since September. Is this normal? She hits Live Love Lax next weekend for the start of the final tournaments (thank god). I have heard comments in the past that it happens depending on the sliminess of the coach. Has this happened to anyone?

Not a big deal for profile views. Some coaches just go through all of their saved players. Now if they are looking at videos, then that it something else.

It was video views, multiple times

It happens and pretty open secret among the coaches. My daughter's college coach told her class after a committed event where they turned some heads: "When they call you, you call me."

That was going to be one of my questions. I guess if they contact her she should let the coach know. Although one of them was her top choice.

On the men’s side of things - this is a pretty open practice. Certain coaches have made it clear that they will still recruit top players until they sign their NLI.

This is a regular occurrence in other sports as well.

If a coach can change their mind on players or applying for another job, then kids should have the same opportunity.

WLax seems like the only sport where recruiting stops once a commitment has been made versus when the NLI is signed, and I don't think there's a coach out there that wants to be the first to break that trend -- I'm sure the entire community will go after their players at that point.

I'll bet this trend does break in the near future, especially knowing that some schools will be left behind in the unlimited scholarship/paying players phase of collegiate athletics due to financial abilities. Example: why would a Syracuse, BC, or Denver commit that's going to pay $40-60k a year not listen to a Florida, Clemson, or Penn State coach, where they could go to school for free AND make money?

I hear what you are saying. Denver, BC and Syracuse have very competitive aide packages. Florida is a strong academic school and out of state tuition (along with lax or edu aid) make is a nice option. Clemson may have nice facilities, but their academics are meh at best. BC, Syracuse, PSU, and Florida also have prominent alumni networks that are also extremely helpful for internships, jobs, etc.

Lol. Watch

[hmmm]

PSU out of state is 50k. MSU and OSU are 37-42k respectively. BC/NU 65ish.

I wouldn't call PSU tuition low. Lol.

I didn't know out of state was that high, I went there in-state. Now, the In state $ is about 20k/year which is really good for a well known school with a big alumni network.

I'm paying it as a now out of state parent but grew up in PA, painful.

It's an awesome place to go to school, highly regarded business program, alum network. They should do better with recruiting the in state talent, there is plenty. Within very close proximity to NJ, MD and Western/Central NY hot beds. Really no excuse why they aren't dominant, if you ask me.

I have my reasons why but I must remain quiet. There may be a fan of the team or coach who threatens to out my daughter.

Hmm. I mean anyone that pays attention knows who your daughters are….

[Relax77]

PSU out of state is 50k. MSU and OSU are 37-42k respectively. BC/NU 65ish.

I wouldn't call PSU tuition low. Lol.

I didn't know out of state was that high, I went there in-state. Now, the In state $ is about 20k/year which is really good for a well known school with a big alumni network.

I'm paying it as a now out of state parent but grew up in PA, painful.

It's an awesome place to go to school, highly regarded business program, alum network. They should do better with recruiting the in state talent, there is plenty. Within very close proximity to NJ, MD and Western/Central NY hot beds. Really no excuse why they aren't dominant, if you ask me.

I have my reasons why but I must remain quiet. There may be a fan of the team or coach who threatens to out my daughter.

Hmm. I mean anyone that pays attention knows who your daughters are….

Lmao. You think so? I don’t think you do. But then again I have no problem if you did. I mean what’s my crime. Saying I think player x tends to flop. Only two nutjobs (which is really one) had a ridiculous problem with that and wanted to have the coach call my daughter’s coach. . Have at it. They score enough to have that overlooked. Guess I shouldn’t have had that fifth tequila.

[LiveLaxLove]

PSU out of state is 50k. MSU and OSU are 37-42k respectively. BC/NU 65ish.

I wouldn't call PSU tuition low. Lol.

I didn't know out of state was that high, I went there in-state. Now, the In state $ is about 20k/year which is really good for a well known school with a big alumni network.

I'm paying it as a now out of state parent but grew up in PA, painful.

It's an awesome place to go to school, highly regarded business program, alum network. They should do better with recruiting the in state talent, there is plenty. Within very close proximity to NJ, MD and Western/Central NY hot beds. Really no excuse why they aren't dominant, if you ask me.

I have my reasons why but I must remain quiet. There may be a fan of the team or coach who threatens to out my daughter.

Hmm. I mean anyone that pays attention knows who your daughters are….

Lmao. You think so? I don’t think you do. But then again I have no problem if you did. I mean what’s my crime. Saying I think player x tends to flop. Only two nutjobs (which is really one) had a ridiculous problem with that and wanted to have the coach call my daughter’s coach. . Have at it. They score enough to have that overlooked. Guess I shouldn’t have had that fifth tequila.

There are some absolute nutjobs out there. Parents are the worst part about this sport. The sabotage actions that I've seen are horrible and plentiful. Some collegiate programs have massive, drama-filled divisions within the parent group. There's one program I know of where the coach treats all "non-starters" like the red-headed stepchildren of the team (i.e. at practice, in the locker room, during timeouts, not allowed to get treatment, etc) and the parents divide themselves into cliques the same way. It's comical!

If you're a parent of a recruit, I HIGHLY recommend you speak to the parents of both kids who start and kids who don't start in the program. You'll find out really quick how much that coach truly cares about your child as a player, and if it's all based on a self-serving aspect.

[spidey44]

Anyone at LLL this weekend, come find me. I'll be setting up a Spidey's SportsBook on the sidelines. Live Lines on all the big games...

[hmmm]

PSU out of state is 50k. MSU and OSU are 37-42k respectively. BC/NU 65ish.

I wouldn't call PSU tuition low. Lol.

I didn't know out of state was that high, I went there in-state. Now, the In state $ is about 20k/year which is really good for a well known school with a big alumni network.

I'm paying it as a now out of state parent but grew up in PA, painful.

It's an awesome place to go to school, highly regarded business program, alum network. They should do better with recruiting the in state talent, there is plenty. Within very close proximity to NJ, MD and Western/Central NY hot beds. Really no excuse why they aren't dominant, if you ask me.

I have my reasons why but I must remain quiet. There may be a fan of the team or coach who threatens to out my daughter.

Hmm. I mean anyone that pays attention knows who your daughters are….

Lmao. You think so? I don’t think you do. But then again I have no problem if you did. I mean what’s my crime. Saying I think player x tends to flop. Only two nutjobs (which is really one) had a ridiculous problem with that and wanted to have the coach call my daughter’s coach. . Have at it. They score enough to have that overlooked. Guess I shouldn’t have had that fifth tequila.

No crime at all. That whole exchange was ridiculous.

[Relax77]

PSU out of state is 50k. MSU and OSU are 37-42k respectively. BC/NU 65ish.

I wouldn't call PSU tuition low. Lol.

I didn't know out of state was that high, I went there in-state. Now, the In state $ is about 20k/year which is really good for a well known school with a big alumni network.

I'm paying it as a now out of state parent but grew up in PA, painful.

It's an awesome place to go to school, highly regarded business program, alum network. They should do better with recruiting the in state talent, there is plenty. Within very close proximity to NJ, MD and Western/Central NY hot beds. Really no excuse why they aren't dominant, if you ask me.

I have my reasons why but I must remain quiet. There may be a fan of the team or coach who threatens to out my daughter.

Hmm. I mean anyone that pays attention knows who your daughters are….

Lmao. You think so? I don’t think you do. But then again I have no problem if you did. I mean what’s my crime. Saying I think player x tends to flop. Only two nutjobs (which is really one) had a ridiculous problem with that and wanted to have the coach call my daughter’s coach. . Have at it. They score enough to have that overlooked. Guess I shouldn’t have had that fifth tequila.

No crime at all. That whole exchange was ridiculous.

[Relax77]

PSU out of state is 50k. MSU and OSU are 37-42k respectively. BC/NU 65ish.

I wouldn't call PSU tuition low. Lol.

I didn't know out of state was that high, I went there in-state. Now, the In state $ is about 20k/year which is really good for a well known school with a big alumni network.

I'm paying it as a now out of state parent but grew up in PA, painful.

It's an awesome place to go to school, highly regarded business program, alum network. They should do better with recruiting the in state talent, there is plenty. Within very close proximity to NJ, MD and Western/Central NY hot beds. Really no excuse why they aren't dominant, if you ask me.

I have my reasons why but I must remain quiet. There may be a fan of the team or coach who threatens to out my daughter.

Hmm. I mean anyone that pays attention knows who your daughters are….

Lmao. You think so? I don’t think you do. But then again I have no problem if you did. I mean what’s my crime. Saying I think player x tends to flop. Only two nutjobs (which is really one) had a ridiculous problem with that and wanted to have the coach call my daughter’s coach. . Have at it. They score enough to have that overlooked. Guess I shouldn’t have had that fifth tequila.

There are some absolute nutjobs out there. Parents are the worst part about this sport. The sabotage actions that I've seen are horrible and plentiful. Some collegiate programs have massive, drama-filled divisions within the parent group. There's one program I know of where the coach treats all "non-starters" like the red-headed stepchildren of the team (i.e. at practice, in the locker room, during timeouts, not allowed to get treatment, etc) and the parents divide themselves into cliques the same way. It's comical!

If you're a parent of a recruit, I HIGHLY recommend you speak to the parents of both kids who start and kids who don't start in the program. You'll find out really quick how much that coach truly cares about your child as a player, and if it's all based on a self-serving aspect.

During the recruiting process we were able to get some sense of what coaches are legit and which ones gives lip service. But there are definitely some better hiding that than others. Glad I don’t have to don’t go through that again with my . It was very stressful for them. But that is some fantastic advice we unfortunately didn’t do.

[spidey44]

During the recruiting process we were able to get some sense of what coaches are legit and which ones gives lip service. But there are definitely some better hiding that than others. Glad I don’t have to don’t go through that again with my . It was very stressful for them.

I'm more confused post-commitment than I was beforehand!

[LaxDadMax]

Anyone at LLL this weekend, come find me. I'll be setting up a Spidey's SportsBook on the sidelines. Live Lines on all the big games...

Let me help and put a few lines up first. 25s will be hardest to pick (kinda like college bowl games) since many top players won't play and for teams with girls targeting D3, some uncommitted girls will play alot more than their stars

2025: YJ Spallina (-1.5) vs. Steps Blue
2025: AIM (+1) vs. Eagle Stix
2026: Cap Blue (-2.5) vs. Skywalkers Blue
2026: YJ Manning (pk) vs. Prime time
2027: YJ Stadler (-10.5) vs. MD United
2027: Hero's Green (-2) vs. Eagle Stix

[watcherinthewoods]

PSU out of state is 50k. MSU and OSU are 37-42k respectively. BC/NU 65ish.

I wouldn't call PSU tuition low. Lol.

I didn't know out of state was that high, I went there in-state. Now, the In state $ is about 20k/year which is really good for a well known school with a big alumni network.

I'm paying it as a now out of state parent but grew up in PA, painful.

It's an awesome place to go to school, highly regarded business program, alum network. They should do better with recruiting the in state talent, there is plenty. Within very close proximity to NJ, MD and Western/Central NY hot beds. Really no excuse why they aren't dominant, if you ask me.

I have my reasons why but I must remain quiet. There may be a fan of the team or coach who threatens to out my daughter.

Hmm. I mean anyone that pays attention knows who your daughters are….

Lmao. You think so? I don’t think you do. But then again I have no problem if you did. I mean what’s my crime. Saying I think player x tends to flop. Only two nutjobs (which is really one) had a ridiculous problem with that and wanted to have the coach call my daughter’s coach. . Have at it. They score enough to have that overlooked. Guess I shouldn’t have had that fifth tequila.

There are some absolute nutjobs out there. Parents are the worst part about this sport. The sabotage actions that I've seen are horrible and plentiful. Some collegiate programs have massive, drama-filled divisions within the parent group. There's one program I know of where the coach treats all "non-starters" like the red-headed stepchildren of the team (i.e. at practice, in the locker room, during timeouts, not allowed to get treatment, etc) and the parents divide themselves into cliques the same way. It's comical!

If you're a parent of a recruit, I HIGHLY recommend you speak to the parents of both kids who start and kids who don't start in the program. You'll find out really quick how much that coach truly cares about your child as a player, and if it's all based on a self-serving aspect.

+ 1 Great advice and this is all true from first-hand experience and observation. Nutjob parents and I will add, nutjob coaches.

[LaxDadMax]

+ 1 Great advice and this is all true from first-hand experience and observation. Nutjob parents and I will add, nutjob coaches.

With 2 kids playing in college, my experience is that worst parents are those of kids from the most well-known club programs (YJ, Cap, M&D, TG). They are the ones who can't believe that little Jenny isn't the star that they thought she was.

And even worse, there are kids from California, Texas, Illinois, and Minnesota who didn't play on top 20 clubs or top 20 private school high school programs, who are actually MUCH better after a year of training at the highest level.

[Relax77]

+ 1 Great advice and this is all true from first-hand experience and observation. Nutjob parents and I will add, nutjob coaches.

With 2 kids playing in college, my experience is that worst parents are those of kids from the most well-known club programs (YJ, Cap, M&D, TG). They are the ones who can't believe that little Jenny isn't the star that they thought she was.

And even worse, there are kids from California, Texas, Illinois, and Minnesota who didn't play on top 20 clubs or top 20 private school high school programs, who are actually MUCH better after a year of training at the highest level.

I think it’s a mix Max. I sit away from the parents just like I did in HS and Club. Don’t want to hear these parents. And it is 100% worse in college than club. The claws come out.

[LiveLaxLove]

During the recruiting process we were able to get some sense of what coaches are legit and which ones gives lip service. But there are definitely some better hiding that than others. Glad I don’t have to don’t go through that again with my . It was very stressful for them.

I'm more confused post-commitment than I was beforehand!

I'd say, now that colleges won't be limited in scholarship numbers, if a coach is throwing you off, post-commitment, and you feel like there's been a mistake, don't be afraid to switch. It's a very normal thing in many other sports.
However, I will also say that many coaches don't feel comfortable with initiating, so, you or your club coach may want to begin that discussion.

[LaxDadMax]

+ 1 Great advice and this is all true from first-hand experience and observation. Nutjob parents and I will add, nutjob coaches.

With 2 kids playing in college, my experience is that worst parents are those of kids from the most well-known club programs (YJ, Cap, M&D, TG). They are the ones who can't believe that little Jenny isn't the star that they thought she was.

And even worse, there are kids from California, Texas, Illinois, and Minnesota who didn't play on top 20 clubs or top 20 private school high school programs, who are actually MUCH better after a year of training at the highest level.

I think it’s a mix Max. I sit away from the parents just like I did in HS and Club. Don’t want to hear these parents. And it is 100% worse in college than club. The claws come out.

Across my 2 daughters, one environment was much better than club and another slightly worse. Biggest difference in my experience is that a top club will remove a problem parent, but a college team less likely to do so.